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Title: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 10, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
About 15 years ago, 'Lynford Junction' was on the Exhibition circuit, and seemed generally well received, and appeared in 'Railway Modeller' and the N-Gauge Society 'Journal'. This layout was sold by its builder, Steve Wright, and he is now starting to exhibit its replacement, 'James St'. This was at Southend three weeks ago, and here is a link to some photos taken there, or at a practice session the week before;

http://suffolkandnorthessexareagroup.onesuffolk.net/imagegallery/james-street/?stage=Live (http://suffolkandnorthessexareagroup.onesuffolk.net/imagegallery/james-street/?stage=Live)

Note that there are three Galleries of photos. The layout can be viewed from all four sides, and is intended to be exhibited 'free standing' (ie an island on its own). At present, one side is not fully finished scenically, but Steve hopes to have this finished in about six months. The layout was not fully stocked up at the time of the photos.

The layout is in three levels; a lower terminus, goods yards, dock/harbour, and engine shed; a middle two track main line; and an upper level with four tracks and station area. There is also a small branch and second engine shed; the idea is to run from the terminus via the middle level to the top and then back again. Most locos are fitted with B+B couplings, and  it is hoped, with practise and some adjustments, we will be able to do shunting and loco changes 'hands off'. Reversing loops enable trains to be turned and run in both directions on all levels, and hence terminus to terminus with the same loco (or with another if we wish to).

Steve is now open to Exhibition enquiries to display the layout; I don't think Steve is a member of this forum (he's too busy on the layout!), so please pass any enquiries to me, for the time being. Due to the size of the layout, and the time taken to set up/dismantle, it is likely that he will prefer two (or more) day exhibitions.
Update 30/11/16-note that the website quoted no longer exists, and the new on is;
http://sanengauge.wixsite.com/classic-layout (http://sanengauge.wixsite.com/classic-layout)

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on December 10, 2014, 04:24:28 PM
Looks quite spectacular, Martyn :thumbsup:
I guess it would help any potential show organisers to know the footprint of the layout, where Steve is based and how far he'd be prepared to travel.
If the layout is viewable on all 4 sides, where is it operated from please?
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: wookie on December 10, 2014, 04:35:31 PM
Blimey it's humungous  :D
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 10, 2014, 04:43:11 PM
I will get the dimensions from Steve, but it is about 14' x 10'-but I could be wrong. He lives in South Essex (near Chelmsford), and we exhibited 'Lynford' at a number of shows including, amongst others, Warley, Bristol, Wakefield, Derby and York, so we would travel at least that far. I think Steve would consider any offer on its merits.
The whole layout fits on trolleys which all then fit into one trailer.
We can operate with all the operators (except the harbour) in the central well, but it does get a bit 'friendly'; at Southend, the top 4-track mainline operators, and the one for the harbour, sat outside the layout. This also enabled the operators to chat with visitors. At Southend, we also were viewed three sided, with the incomplete fourth side at the back, but when it is finished, then it is intended that it will be viewable from all four sides.
Steve's stock is generally LMS/London Midland region but the layout is about operating and running, not rivet counting. There is likely to be some BR ER stock when I assist in operating. There will also be a tram circuit around the roads.
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: port perran on December 10, 2014, 04:49:16 PM
Looks huge and very impressive.
That will take some setting up at an exhibition !
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Dr Al on December 13, 2014, 01:38:12 PM
Looks quite spectacular, Martyn :thumbsup:


Second that - I love these kind of layouts.

Any chance of a trackplan?

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 14, 2014, 10:06:35 AM
I got the basic dimensions slightly wrong-Steve has told me that the baseboard size is actually 20' x 11', and the 'footprint' for exhibition purposes needs to be about 23' x 13' to allow for two sets of operators to sit outside the layout. We can operate most of the layout from inside the central well, but it does make it a bit friendly! By having some operators outside, it also enables them to talk to the visitors and answer at least some of the questions raised! Remember, this is designed to be viewed from all four sides.

Dr Al;
 I will try and get a track plan from Steve, but there is probably still some evolution to come before the 'final' version; Steve has already altered the entrance to part of the lower goods yard to make for more prototypical running and ease the entrance, and also added more magnets to enable even more remote uncoupling. You can just about make out the lower level trackplan by 'stitching' the photos already posted, but we haven't yet posted photos of the unfinished (scenically) upper level and fiddle yard. The upper level track is 95% complete, just some to do in the upper small terminus and loco yard. 'Lynford Junction' was written up for 'Modeller' and 'Journal' by Dave Cooper; I expect that he, me, or both, will be doing the same for 'James St', even though Dave now lives in France!
For now, any additional pictures and information will probably be added via the SANE group website (weblink as before).

Operator numbers have yet to be settled, but possibly six are need to exploit the full potential of the layout.

I believe that the Layout is already booked for Warley in the future (2017?).

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on December 14, 2014, 11:31:53 AM
Shame it's Warley, Martyn, as that is a total scrum. Far better to do The International N Gauge Show (which is also a scrum but at least it's all N gauge) :D
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 14, 2014, 01:53:08 PM
Hi Nobby;
I'm sure that Steve would listen to an invite to TINGS, though I appreciate that it may not be a good idea to do both. I assume the invite to Warley has come because of the fact that Steve/we 'did' Warley with Lynford, and I think it won best layout, or something; it is too long ago to remember! Lynford was sold long before TINGS existed, and so Warley was the only time it was exhibited in the West Midlands area.
In that respect, it's a pity that the two shows are geographically so close, but perhaps different years may be the answer.
The fact that it will be four sided means that four times as many people can see it at the same time  :) !
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: cudders on January 06, 2015, 07:06:24 PM
WOW  :heart2: :o :heart2:

What a beauty. Nice to see four track's again..so bored of tiny terminus's.

I remember Lynford Junction well. A great layout and still have the modeller edition somewhere.

Can't wait to see it in the flesh.

Cudders.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 18, 2015, 12:09:11 PM
Had a phone chat with Steve about progress on the scenery, and he has now almost completed covering the carcasses of all the walls and bridges with brick paper. The top branch line has had attention, and will now feature a passing loop. Work has also been done on completing the canal; and a new station has been added where there is a triangular junction on the middle level.

One of the operation team, Dave, is writing an article about the description of the layout, and how it operates. It is hoped that this will eventually appear in the 'Journal', and possibly 'Modeller' or another magazine. Unfortunately, his track plan was lost when his hard drive crashed; but he will be drawing a new one.

The layout has been booked for ROMFORD show on 12/11/16 (note the year!).

Our next running session will not be until the New Year, as Steve needs access to the centre section boards to do the scenery, and this is only possible when the layout is partially dismantled. Hopefully, when we do run again, we will get some more photos to show what has been done. Bear in mind that because of the sheer size of the layout, 'detailing' could go on as long as Steve wishes to do it....
He is also hoping to get more exhibition invites-any offers?
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Ditape on October 18, 2015, 12:17:18 PM
That is a impressive layout I hope to get to one of the shows it will be at so I can see it in the flesh. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on October 02, 2016, 10:52:36 AM
Here is the rough draft of the track plan, drawn by hand and awaiting copying onto PC. Having started life as a draughtsman old habits die hard.....

I've also attached the flyer wording in case anyone is interested in inviting James Street to their exhibition. It is a large layout so would be best suited to a 2 day show rather than a one day. Given the size of the layout it can be erected in about an hour and a half, although stocking it takes a little longer ,but still fairly rapid using cassettes developed for the purpose. It is booked for Warley 2017 and has been offered for the N Gauge Society 50th, although little has been heard about the latter so far.

Dave Cooper
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on October 02, 2016, 12:40:00 PM
@Southerngooner (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3680)

I can open the 'flyer' pdf but there's no sign of a drawing :confused2:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 02, 2016, 12:49:37 PM
Hi Dave;
You beat me to it! I was going to post about Warley later today!
The layout will next be exhibited at Romford on 12 November this year.
Unfortunately, the website that we used to display photos of James St and Saneham Tey no longer exists-we hope to build a new one in the future.
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on October 02, 2016, 01:36:13 PM
Oops, posted one part of the flyer and not the other. This post should contain the track plan.....
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 03, 2016, 09:15:29 AM
That is a seriously impressive and expensive layout.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 05, 2016, 10:26:00 AM
It has taken Steve about eighteen years to construct, virtually single handed, after he sold 'Lynford Junction'. Dave and I will be part of the operating team when it is exhibited, and will be supplying some of the stock.
The terminus is, almost, Norwich Thorpe (in general terms, not a copy); the goods yard includes a transit shed based on Shoreditch; it is a layout for effect and 'watch the trains go by' rather than rivet counting, but the actual modelling of features is to a very high standard. The overall operating plan is to go from the lower terminus/goods yard/ harbour to the middle level circuit, then the upper circuit, them return via one of two triangles back to the lower level. A fiddle yard/carriage sidings/goods reception roads holds spare trains; and locos can be changed on the upper level before returning to the lower levels. Watching four trains simultaneously on the middle levels is quite something!
Dave is in the process of writing an article for the model press, and it will no doubt feature in the 'Journal' in time.
BTW, it is analogue; Steve is an electronics engineer by trade, and has wired it up purely dc. There is LED feedback to show point orientation.
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on October 12, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
 A few photos of James St from the Southend show

Reception/ departure freight yard

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/349-121016204649.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44420)

Steam and diesel depot


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/349-121016205446.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44421)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 12, 2016, 08:59:49 PM
Thanks for these two excellent photos. Is that a SR design main line diesel in black livery at the very back? If so, a close-up and some info. would be very much appreciated.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on October 12, 2016, 09:02:05 PM

  Freight yard and warehouses

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/349-121016205901.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44423)


Goods depot


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/349-121016210136.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44424)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on October 12, 2016, 09:11:35 PM
Main terminus and goods depot

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/349-121016210917.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44425)

 Mainline station on four track circuit

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/349-121016211106.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44426)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on October 12, 2016, 09:20:13 PM
Dock and quay side

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/349-121016211729.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44427)

Sorry about the picture quality on this one.
I hope to have time at the forth coming Romford show to update the photos on the recently sceniced sections.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 12, 2016, 09:38:39 PM
Thanks for the pictures, Stuart. We will have to get a new website..........
In the dock scene, Steve is currently building some travelling dockside cranes (to run on the crane rails) cranes, and I have completed a 'Shell Welder' tanker, and am in the process of converting a second one to a general cargo ship. The ship in the background is actually 1;350 scale, but it doesn't look out of place; the 'new' ships are 1:130, and we will see if they overpower the harbour at the next exhibition. Steve and I have been discussing this as the under scale things seem to give depth to the area, whereas the near scale ones may be overpowering (even small ships are big things!).
Chris in Prague- I don't think it is a Southern diesel-but don't tempt Dave, he may come up with one yet.....
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on October 12, 2016, 09:45:33 PM
If memory serves me correctly the black diesel behind the deltic is 10001, but i maybe wrong, Dave or Steve needs to answer that one, i can certainly say its a kit but who or what i have no idea. Sorry i have no further photos of the loco, as per Martyn and Dave i am just an operator at exhibitions.

  Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on October 12, 2016, 11:26:00 PM
Thanks for the pictures, Stuart. We will have to get a new website..........
In the dock scene, Steve is currently building some travelling dockside cranes (to run on the crane rails) cranes, and I have completed a 'Shell Welder' tanker, and am in the process of converting a second one to a general cargo ship. The ship in the background is actually 1;350 scale, but it doesn't look out of place; the 'new' ships are 1:130, and we will see if they overpower the harbour at the next exhibition. Steve and I have been discussing this as the under scale things seem to give depth to the area, whereas the near scale ones may be overpowering (even small ships are big things!).
Chris in Prague- I don't think it is a Southern diesel-but don't tempt Dave, he may come up with one yet.....
Martyn

Hi Martyn, Stuart and Dave (sorry not sure who's who),

Wonderful stuff. One of those layouts where I either think 'what an inspiration' or 'sod it, I'm giving up'.

Looking forward to your ships. I've got 2 train ferries but am concentrating on a larger passenger ferry and finding not only the work but the scale very difficult to get right anyway let alone visually.

Good luck with the new ships. What and where did you get them from if you don't mind me asking? We're in a terrible scale range to find stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: PLD on October 13, 2016, 12:20:43 AM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/44/349-121016205446.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=44421)
Thanks for these two excellent photos. Is that a SR design main line diesel in black livery at the very back? If so, a close-up and some info. would be very much appreciated.

If memory serves me correctly the black diesel behind the deltic is 10001


Definitely one of the LMS Twins 10000/10001 behind Deltic...
I would guess the Knightwing kit...
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 13, 2016, 03:30:40 PM
Weave;
I got the 'Shell Welder' kits from a dealer in British Columbia via Ebay. Not cheap, but they arrived about two weeks later. They are available from a number of dealers on Ebay: many seem to be Eastern European. Be aware that the moulds are now worn, I think, and the basic kit has numerous flash, injection and ejector defects to some mouldings. I finished off details like ventilators and anchors with metal castings from specialist boat modelling  companies. I also used etched details (mainly the railings) and transfers from Atlantic models. You are also quite correct that finding marine kits at or near 1;150 are rare unless you model sailing ships or submarines! Also, as I said, even though the 'Shell Welder' was a relatively small ship, it is big when a model is placed on a layout.
Steve also owns a converted Humbrol/Heller Basque trawler which was converted to a cargo ship, but it needs a drydock soon! I did get an article about it published in 'Modeller' a few years ago.
I also found a passenger vessel at 1;150, but it is big;
https://www.emodels.co.uk/meng-model-1-150-the-crossing-001-plastic-model-boat.html (https://www.emodels.co.uk/meng-model-1-150-the-crossing-001-plastic-model-boat.html)
and this is only, once again, a smallish river passenger ship. I declined that one.....the 'Shell Welder' hull scales out at about 190', very approx.
The 1;350 cargo ship is a Revell 'Hawaiian Pilot' which gets released every few years. I built it for nostalgia....I first went to sea on similar ships.
Steve owns the layout; Dave, Stuart and myself are operators; Dave and I supply some stock; Stuart is our photographer, and hopefully webmaster to be; and Dave is writing an article or two about it for future publication.
PLD;
You are quite correct, the black loco is one of the LMS twins.
If you go to this link before the end of October, you can get a few more photos; note that these are 20 months old, and Steve has done a lot more work to it since;
http://suffolkandnorthessexareagroup.onesuffolk.net/imagegallery/james-street/?stage=Live (http://suffolkandnorthessexareagroup.onesuffolk.net/imagegallery/james-street/?stage=Live)

HTH
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on October 14, 2016, 01:36:30 AM
Hi Martyn,

Thank you for the passenger vessel link. Looks interesting and after potentially too much wine have gone for it.

Am getting frustrated with my attempts on my passenger ferry, which is twice as long, and am building an extension to my Port Regleun II layout to accommodate it but will wait to see what this one's like and if I need/how I make it look like it's in the sea (think the hull in one bit but not sure).

You mentioned nostalgia and I noticed that they had a 1/200 model of HMS Rodney who my great uncle served on in, amongst others, the Bismarck chase. Bit too pricey but maybe another time in his memory. Lovely man.

Thanks again for the link,

Cheers weave  :beers:

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Bealman on October 14, 2016, 02:34:17 AM
One seriously cool layout. Must take a small army to put up and pull down at exhibitions!
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on October 14, 2016, 07:57:19 AM
Surprisingly no, it only takes two people around an hour and a half to set up and get running. Steve has designed it really well, with transporting tables for all components, and you set the whole frame up before sliding the boards on, which keeps it light and rapid. Stock is held in cassettes which can then be loaded on in whole rakes, so that is another 30 minutes or so. All boards are plywood and frames are a mix of ply and 2 x 1. I'll find out exactly what it takes in a few weeks when we exhibit at Romford......
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 15, 2016, 09:39:56 AM
Thanks for the info. about the LMS diesel 'twin'. Now, if only someone made a kit for the SR design diesel triplets.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Ian Morton on October 15, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
Surprisingly no, it only takes two people around an hour and a half to set up and get running. Steve has designed it really well, with transporting tables for all components, and you set the whole frame up before sliding the boards on, which keeps it light and rapid. Stock is held in cassettes which can then be loaded on in whole rakes, so that is another 30 minutes or so. All boards are plywood and frames are a mix of ply and 2 x 1. I'll find out exactly what it takes in a few weeks when we exhibit at Romford......

It would make an interesting photo sequence if someone could capture it without getting lynched by the rest of the team.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on October 15, 2016, 12:41:54 PM
Chris in Prague - I would be in the queue for any of the Southern diesels too!

Ian - I will try and get a few photos at Romford next month.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: ScottyStitch on November 13, 2016, 08:17:09 PM
https://youtu.be/Wpc8JF4RSLg

Go directly to 12:00mins, do not pass go, do not collect £200.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on November 13, 2016, 09:11:44 PM
Wow! :goggleeyes:
 :thankyousign:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: bluedepot on November 13, 2016, 09:18:03 PM
wow from me too!

what a layout!

did i see some tram lines in the video???


:greatpicturessign:

:ngauge:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on November 13, 2016, 09:24:22 PM
Wow! :goggleeyes:
 :thankyousign:

I've just realised the 'Thank You' smiley has impaled the 'goggleeyes' one in my reply above :oopssign:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 13, 2016, 09:33:10 PM
https://youtu.be/Wpc8JF4RSLg

Go directly to 12:00mins, do not pass go, do not collect £200.

Thank you, very much. A very fine collection of Ferry Vans in one train including several BR Ferry Vans, a model I'd love to make one of.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: ScottyStitch on November 13, 2016, 09:59:18 PM
All very welcome.

Glad I stumbled across it. Incredible layout.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on November 14, 2016, 10:59:07 AM
OK, as promised here are some shots of the layout being erected. The first two included with this post show half an hour in, and an hour in. I'll put another post on with the 1.5 and 2 hour shots!
It is fair to say things did not go as planned on Friday evening....... The first problem was the short time for setting up on Friday, only 2.5 hours, which put Steve and I under pressure straight away. We got everything into the hall OK, the frames went up well, but when we started to put up the brand new pelmet, it soon became clear it needed a bit more work, so that went back into the trailer after 30 minutes of wasted work! We got all the boards onto the frames and some bolted together by the time we had to leave.
Some early morning work on Saturday saw the layout up and running in time for the start of the exhibition, but electrical gremlins meant the terminus could not be used to it's full potential as there were major problems with a number of key points. We had to resort to a shuttle service with a Blue Pullman and DMU......

Other than that the layout generally ran well and we got some good comments. It was all packed away just over two hours after the show.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Only Me on November 14, 2016, 11:25:47 AM
That looks really good, thanks for Sharing
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 14, 2016, 01:16:57 PM
Scottystitch;
Thanks for the filming link. Why didn't you introduce yourself, as three of us (at least) are on this forum; Southerngooner (Dave-ought to be Frenchgooner now), Stuart (Grid078), and me (Martyn).
Stuart also took a series of still photos when we were almost set up, and with most of the stock on the rails. No doubt he will be posting them here in due course.
Chris in Prague; the Harwich-Temple Mills ferry van train is a mixture of one Mill sidings kit, a Shapeways 3D print of a German van (to 1;148); the reefers are Lima/Fleischmann; the stake wagon Fleischmann; and the rest are scratchbuilt by myself, and represent more VIXs, a Czech van, Transfesa, and the grey one is an older Belgian van. I really need transfers for the Belgian and Tranfesa vans-the German one has transfers available from Germany.
Blue depot-there are indeed tram lines, but as yet are still on the 'to do' list. Steve is converting some RTR trams and buses to work semi-independently, probably on DCC. The main layout is analogue (it took Steve 45' just to plug the wiring bundles in!).
The two ships have been referred to when discussing Port Perran on these pages; one is a 'Shell Welder' with etched replacement parts, another is a 'Shell Welder' hull converted to a general cargo ship, which still has some detailing and finishing off to do; and the third is a Heller Breton Trawler converted over 20 years ago, initially by Steve and then finished by myself.
As Dave said, we had a few gremlins, and it is still a big learning curve for all us operators. I think the next scheduled outing is Billericay on 6th May 2017, then next confirmed is Warley 2017. Others may-or may not-be in the pipeline...
Hope you all enjoyed the show or the video.
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: crepello on November 14, 2016, 08:41:13 PM
Saw this layout at Romford on Saturday and voted it 'best in show'. It really is terrific and some parts are at a height where you can appreciate the trains. The running was good so it was a great advert for N-gauge. It really does deserve to be at the major exhibitions.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 14, 2016, 08:57:02 PM
Many thanks, Martyn, for the details about the the Harwich-Temple Mills ferry van train. Alas the Mill Sidings BR VIX Ferry Van kits seem to no longer be available. I am aware of the (pricey) Shapeways BR VIX Ferry Van body but it needs a chassis. However, I'd love to have at least one. I was not aware of the Shapeways 3D print of a German van (to 1;148); nor the Lima/Fleischmann reefers (do they come up on eBay ever?); is the Fleischmann stake wagon a true ferry wagon or a look-alike DB domestic one? (I use some domestic DB goods stock as ferry stock). An article about how you scratch-built the ferry wagons would be very interesting, especially the VIXs, the Czech van (living in Prague I'd also love to make one of these) and the "Transfesa" one which I remember seeing near Liverpool Street back in the 1970s.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 15, 2016, 06:11:21 PM
Chris in Prague;
The German vans come as almost ready to run, just add wheels, couplings, and paint; but there is a list of parts for detailing them more fully.
http://www.shapeways.com/product/Y67PMMXR8/2151-1-148-german-train-ferry-wagon-40t-glw-low?optionId=43104567 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/Y67PMMXR8/2151-1-148-german-train-ferry-wagon-40t-glw-low?optionId=43104567)
http://www.shapeways.com/product/77PB6CL8T/2351-1-148-german-train-ferry-van-e277?optionId=18481469 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/77PB6CL8T/2351-1-148-german-train-ferry-van-e277?optionId=18481469)
http://www.shapeways.com/product/H5HU7FN4F/2251-1-148-german-train-ferry-van-e006?optionId=18481355 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/H5HU7FN4F/2251-1-148-german-train-ferry-van-e006?optionId=18481355)
http://www.shapeways.com/product/SYAWXHATV/2152-1-148-german-train-ferry-wagon-40t-glw-low?optionId=43104545 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/SYAWXHATV/2152-1-148-german-train-ferry-wagon-40t-glw-low?optionId=43104545)
These are the German ferry wagons in 1;148. the stake wagon is available with stakes up or down; I think you already know about the VIX. The designer of these wagons gives a list of parts needed to complete, and a link to suitable transfers. My reefer vans were all obtained-over a fairly long period-from Ebay; likewise, the stake wagon. Note that these are all 1;160, but are not far out against the scratch built wagons. The stake wagon is a standard DB one, but it was a lot cheaper than the Shapeways one! I will have to check if they are still available, as etched Pixels used to do an etch of rams horn hooks (used for securing the wagons to the train ferry decks on passage) for the Mill Lane VIX, and also, I think, etched ventilators. I also have some tank wagons from the N Gauge Society kit which are a bit out of timescale for steam/early diesel on James St (but run on Saneham Tey). I used diagrams from Barrowmore Model Railway group to get basic dimensions, and 'International train-ferry wagons in colour' by D Ratcliffe for details and colours. Once I started building them, it was quite addictive-but they are big(gish) vehicle and soon take up a lot of storage space, and there are so many variations of the basic theme!
I will try and write a detailed methodology of the construction as a separate topic, one day........
HTH
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 15, 2016, 09:15:57 PM
Many thanks, Martyn, for this very quick and useful reply. If I could buy a suitable chassis for a VIX, I'd buy the 3D printed body and have a go at adding one to my 1960s collection. I think the Etched Pixels detailing is still available and the securing hooks would be worth me buying to make my ersatz ferry stock a little more realistic!
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on November 15, 2016, 10:37:56 PM
 A few photos from Romford show.
Sorry time was against me due to reasons explained by David/Martyn, i had hoped to take more.

Chris in Prague the black diesel in the depot photo in the previous batch of photos is indeed one of the LMS twins 10000 & 10001, Steve has both models, i will in the future see if i am able to photograph them for you.

Goods yard and carriage shed/sidings in background.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/349-151116221129.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45489)

Round house engine shed upper level.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/349-151116221706.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45490)

Round house.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/349-151116221952.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45491)

Main steam/diesel depot.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/349-151116222402.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45492)

Dock yard and steam/diesel yard/depot.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/349-151116222901.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=45493)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chetcombe on November 15, 2016, 11:23:28 PM
Wow, some of the best photos I have seen of a layout in a while. That roundhouse is magnificent!
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 16, 2016, 07:41:50 AM
Many thanks for these excellent photos. of a superb layout. Photos. of Steve's LMS twins, 10000 & 10001, would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 16, 2016, 08:56:43 AM
The roundhouse is scratchbuilt-as is the lower yard model of Goodmayes Continental warehouse on the lower level (not seen in this series of photos, but is on the older ones posted). The turntable works and is self-aligning (that would be an article in its own right!). the buildings are a mixture of British, Continental and US kits, as well as scratchbuilt, modified as necessary to fit the overall scene.
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: port perran on November 16, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
Excellent photos of a superb layout.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 20, 2016, 04:11:14 PM
For anyone who is interested, I have added a topic in  'N Gauge kit built rolling stock' entitled 'Scratch building ferry vans' which describes how I built most of the ferry vans on James St.
For those who may have noticed in the photos some Private owner or pre-nationalisation wagons on James St; Steve was left a large number of these by his late father, and uses them as 'Rule 1' at home,  but for exhibitions we will be replacing them with BR liveried vehicles in the future.
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 20, 2016, 04:34:04 PM
Many thanks, Martyn.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 30, 2016, 04:42:37 PM
We have now lost the old webpage which was run by Suffolk and North Essex group to link to photos and details of both 'James St' and 'Saneham Tey'.
However, I'm glad to say that Stuart has started building a new website which, for the time being, will still be for both layouts;

http://sanengauge.wixsite.com/classic-layout (http://sanengauge.wixsite.com/classic-layout)

At time of writing, this is still 'work in progress', but it will be updated as time and new photos permit.
It is expected that Steve will eventually have his own website for James St; the link between the two layouts is that the operators for both layouts are basically the same people....
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Al. on November 30, 2016, 09:49:19 PM
That's one impressive layout. I look forward to seeing it sometime soon.

When is its net outing?


Al.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 01, 2016, 08:31:39 AM
Hi Al;
the next confirmed exhibition is Billericay (South Essex) on 6/5/17. It has possible bookings for Basildon in July, and Southwold in August (these may or may not be deferred until 2018).
It is CONFIRMED for Warley 2017.
Other tentative bookings are in the pipeline.
Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on April 07, 2017, 08:53:48 AM
Just to confirm that James Street is confirmed for the Basildon exhibition 2017, 1st and 2nd July as well as Bristol 2018 4-6 May. We look forward to meeting any Forum members at these shows, please feel free to make yourself known to the operators!
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Carmont on April 07, 2017, 10:37:49 AM
Just to confirm that James Street is confirmed for the Basildon exhibition 2017, 1st and 2nd July as well as Bristol 2018 4-6 May. We look forward to meeting any Forum members at these shows, please feel free to make yourself known to the operators!

Thanks for keeping us up to date with appearances. Any chance you guys would fancy bringing it North to Glasgow (Model Rail Scotland) or Perth (Perth MRC)?
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on April 07, 2017, 12:30:03 PM
Hi

We would consider going anywhere in the country, but bear in mind that we would need overnight accommodation on the Thursday and Sunday nights as it a king way north from Essex! Getting there in time to set up on Friday would be difficult, but three could come up in the van with the layout and others the next day (Friday). If you know the organisers and are interested then pm me and we can talk further. It probably wouldn't be until 2019 though given current commitments.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: wookie on April 08, 2017, 09:44:47 AM
Wow! Magnificent!
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on November 04, 2017, 09:36:01 PM
Evening all

  Had a running session today on James St, actually it was more of a refresher course, having not been near the layout for the best part of six months. Steve has kindly modified part of the track work again so it was back to basics for me and a tutorial in operation. Think we should be okay now and just in time for Warley in three weeks.

  Below are a few more photos, sorry for the quality of some of them they are taken on a camera phone and not the usual DlLSR.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/349-041117212829.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57733)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/349-041117212939.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57734)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/349-041117213047.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57735)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/349-041117213118.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57736)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/349-041117213220.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57737)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/349-041117213327.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57738)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/349-041117213429.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57739)

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on November 04, 2017, 09:45:26 PM
Excellent, and good luck for the show :thumbsup:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 04, 2017, 09:49:38 PM
Excellent, and good luck for the show :thumbsup:

Seconded! Many thanks, Stuart for another very good set of highly realistic looking photos.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 05, 2017, 08:08:02 PM
Stuart has added about an extra ten photos to those added here today taken on 4/11/17 on our joint Saneham Tey/James St website;

https://sanengauge.wixsite.com/classic-layout/james-street

He hopes to put some more taken at Billericay up later.

Note that the control panel is that for the middle level two track main line; there are also two similar panels for the lower terminus and dockyard, and another one for the upper four track main line.

One problem when taking photos is that the layout only (just) fits one way around in Steve's hobby room, so when it is in there , only pictures of the front-James St terminus and good yard-are easily obtained. Photos of all the other sides have to be taken when setting up or between days at exhibitions-hence some of the photos having little stock on display. We hope to get more photos, and possibly video, of the rest of the layout at Warley and subsequent exhibitions confirmed so far in 2018; Erith in January, Bristol in May, Southwold in August, and Farnham in October. Others may be in the pipeline.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on November 05, 2017, 08:25:17 PM
James Street will also feature in Railway Modeller some time next year, once they have taken photos at Bristol, and there will be a two page preview, using the photos taken at Basildon, in the December 2017 issue.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on November 05, 2017, 10:42:16 PM
Excellent, and good luck for the show :thumbsup:

Seconded! Many thanks, Stuart for another very good set of highly realistic looking photos.
Chris in Prague I'm not the one to thank, Steve is, its all his hard work I merely photograph what's presented and try to do the layout justice, but due to the enormous size of James St a lot of it is unreachable to photograph without destroying scenery, some of those views can't even be seen by the public as they are only visible from the centre operating well.
Time is a precious thing at exhibitions, trying to photograph whilst the rest of the team is erecting and stocking the layout is a nightmare, for all those pictures published i can guarantee there is four or five times more that are unsuitable.
 Upcoming shows/exhibitions will be advertised through the website as well so please keep an eye out there too, but I'm sure Dave will continue to post exhibition dates on here.
 Enough waffle hope to see some of you in the future.

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2017, 08:27:48 AM
Thank you, Stuart. All kudos indeed to Steve for all his hard work on this magnificent layout but, without your photos. those of us unable to see the layout in real life would not be able to admire it. So, to all concerned, please, do keep up the good work.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on November 09, 2017, 02:08:51 PM
James Street will also feature in Railway Modeller some time next year, once they have taken photos at Bristol, and there will be a two page preview, using the photos taken at Basildon, in the December 2017 issue.

Nice 2 page 'teaser' in this months Railway Modeller with more to come mid 2018 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Dugard on November 26, 2017, 08:23:59 PM
Have returned from the Warley Show and would like to express my admiration for this wonderful layout. It kept my nephew and I enthralled for some time on all four sides with plenty of scenic detail to admire as well as the number and variety of trains running.  Thank you.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: NOE 544R on November 26, 2017, 09:52:07 PM
Wow! I was head over heals on Saturday, and can safely say you have set the benchmark for n gauge layouts. The layout appeared to operate smoothly throughout the day. It was amazing to watch - Looks like a logistical nightmare to operate! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on November 27, 2017, 11:42:04 AM
Thanks to all who enjoyed James Street at Warley. It was our first show with a full operating team of seven people and it was the best show ever for running and reliability. Steve deserves every bit of success for his long term approach and dedication to building such a great layout. I’m just happy to be his friend! The two awards the layout won (Calvert Cup and RM trophy) were well deserved in my view. It was a very tiring weekend, leaving home at 8am on Friday and getting home at 1.40am on Monday morning, but well worth it. There were few derailments or loco failures, just a few minor coupling tweaks but given the size and complexity of the layout I think that is remarkable.
I’m looking forward to next years shows (Erith in January, Bristol in May, Southwold in August and Farnham in October) so hope to meet some forum members there. Back home to France on Wednesday for a bit of relaxation!&
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 27, 2017, 08:12:45 PM
I echo Dave's praise for Steve's dedication and vision in creating this layout.

It was good to hear so many comments from visitors who enjoyed the layout; Stuart will be sorting out some photos to go on the Forum, and more on our joint website later this week.

Can I ask any of you who took video and then put it on Youtube or whatever to post us the link, please? It would nice to see what we look like from the other side of the fence!

It was also nice to meet some forum members who introduced themselves, and, once again, thanks for the comments. We hope to see you at our exhibitions already booked (see Dave's post) and some which we had enquiries about when at Warley.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 27, 2017, 08:29:23 PM
For anyone interested, I've found a nine minute film on YouTube filmed at Basildon in July this year, when we were VERY short staffed......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ9Zl59xRCI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ9Zl59xRCI)

It is amazing to see the extra work that Steve has done in that short time!

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 27, 2017, 08:40:29 PM
Oddly enough I was just watching the layout on Youtube.

From 6:45 in https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tuHR3JrD8U4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tuHR3JrD8U4)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 28, 2017, 08:40:49 AM
May I also belatedly thank all at Warley club for looking after the exhibitors so well during the exhibition, and the NEC carpark staff for sorting out access details!

martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on November 29, 2017, 07:13:39 PM
As promised earlier in the week photos from our recent visit to Warley.
Saturday morning during final setting up.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117190205.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58705)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117190328.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58706)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117190548.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58707)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117190758.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58708)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117191213.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58709)


Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on November 29, 2017, 07:53:55 PM
Sunday morning before opening time.
These photos were taken on a kindle due to some of the locations being too small to get the usual DSLR into.


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117193304.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58710)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117193426.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58711)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117193613.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58712)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117193903.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58713)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117194151.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58714)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117194443.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58715)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117194713.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58716)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117194907.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58717)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117195103.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58718)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/349-291117195304.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=58719)


Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on November 29, 2017, 08:44:57 PM
Please let me know if James St. ever ventures into the frozen wastes of the north i.e. Lancashire.
I gotta see this in the flesh.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: 70000 on November 30, 2017, 07:03:30 AM
The "Shell Welder" tanker looks rather good.
I've got one of the Novo (Russian) productions after the old Frog masters ended up there as part of a trade deal. After some years as being built as the tanker model, I ended up converting it to a 4mm scale coaster on my OO layout!
A lot of the old Frog kits can still be found on sale, under various names, in Eastern Europe (Poland in particular).
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on November 30, 2017, 09:42:23 AM
Oddly enough I was just watching the layout on Youtube.

From 6:45 in https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tuHR3JrD8U4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tuHR3JrD8U4)

I also watched James St on youtube and was about to enquire when it would be shown again, only to read it will be at Erith in Jan, hopefully will get to this show as I will be back in the UK for a couple of weeks, get to the show and hopefully return from the UK with a couple of Pendolinos if they are delivered in time.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on November 30, 2017, 09:52:36 AM
Hi Graham, come up and introduce ourself if you get to Erith!

Meanwhile, here is another video to enjoy, also shot at Warley, solely of James Street.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXF-llDmOMo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXF-llDmOMo)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 30, 2017, 07:24:01 PM
70000 (just one of the Britannias on James St!);

The 'Shell Welder' is indeed the ex Frog one, now manufactured I think in Russia. Mine came from a model shop in Burnaby, British Columbia, via Ebay. I bought two; I had some correspondence with, I think, Weave, on his 'Port Perran' thread; basically, one was built as the 'Welder' with etched handrails, tank valve wheels, some other fittings and transfers from Atlantic Models; and replacement cast brass vents from a model shop in Cornwall. The green cargo ship was built by kitbashing the second kit, using the hull, some of the accommodation and fittings, and a lot of bits and pieces, and is intended to portray a motor coaster (Dutch 'schuyt', English pronunciation 'skoot') of the late 50s/early 60s. The coaster is not quite finished; I still need to source correct winches for the cargo runners and topping lifts.

As an ex Merchant Navy Officer, I'm well aware that we haven't yet got around to fitting bollards, mooring lines, and pipe runs on the quayside and ships; watch this space!

Martyn



Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 30, 2017, 07:35:47 PM
NPN;

We're just waiting for the invites to consider them :D!

We did get as far north as Wakefield and York with Steve's previous layout 'Linford Junction', so although it would be up to Steve, AFAIK, we've never been invited that far.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on November 30, 2017, 08:28:36 PM
NPN;

We're just waiting for the invites to consider them :D!

We did get as far north as Wakefield and York with Steve's previous layout 'Linford Junction', so although it would be up to Steve, AFAIK, we've never been invited that far.

Martyn

I'll try to educate a few people ;)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on November 30, 2017, 10:23:23 PM
Hi Graham, come up and introduce ourself if you get to Erith!

Meanwhile, here is another video to enjoy, also shot at Warley, solely of James Street.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXF-llDmOMo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXF-llDmOMo)

Thanks all being well I will be there on the Sunday.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on December 02, 2017, 05:21:38 PM
I've just been sent this latest video from Warley which contains some good video of James Street....watch from the start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fh2rUSz2Kc&t=707s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fh2rUSz2Kc&t=707s)

Dave
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 06, 2018, 09:21:27 AM
Hello all;

Just a reminder that we will be at Erith on 27-28 Jan, and hope to meet new and old friends there. Steve has done yet more work on the scenery...........

Please make yourselves known, and we are more than willing to chat with you!

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on January 06, 2018, 09:22:52 PM
looking forward to seeing it in the flesh so to speak. Will definitely say hello. Who knows I may be the visitor who travels the furthest.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 08, 2018, 12:10:08 PM
Graham-more than likely!

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Ollie3440 on January 11, 2018, 05:19:52 PM
Afternoon.

All I can say is 'Wow this is one seriously impressive layout. One that has most definitely been added to my bucket list of layouts to see.

Cheers

Ollie

 :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 11, 2018, 06:40:44 PM
Hello Ollie;

so far this year we are booked at Erith (Jan), Bristol (May), Southwold (Aug), and Farnham (Oct).

I know that Steve has got serious enquiries and tentative bookings for next year and beyond already, but I'm not sure where or when...he just phones and says  'by the way'....

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 29, 2018, 08:39:29 AM
Whew!

a pause after a very rewarding exhibition at Longfield (Erith). There are a number of comments at

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37319.msg488200#msg488200 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=37319.msg488200#msg488200)

It was pleasing to hear so many commentrs from the public, and Graham did make it from Oz! I am very pleased on Steve's behalf that the layout won 'best in show'; we also had considerable interest from MRE magazine, who had the stand opposite us, to follow up with some news and views.

We did pick up a firm invite; Broadstairs in November this year (2018).

Many thanks agin to all of you for yopur comments, and once again, if you have video or photos, please feel free to add them to our topic; its nice (usually) to see the layout from the other side.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on February 07, 2018, 05:01:12 AM
Thanks to all of you on James St for making me welcome, and I will definitely try and make it to Broadstairs if I come over in November. This has to be the best layout I have had the pleasure of seeing.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on February 07, 2018, 10:26:26 AM
Thanks again for the comment, Graham.

Look forward to possibly seeing you again in November.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on February 24, 2018, 03:42:57 PM
For anyone who fololows this thread and has missed the announcement, Dave has created a new website dedicated to James St, which he has mentioned on a separate thread;

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=40534.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=40534.0)

The website is;

https://dwanddrc.wixsite.com/james-street (https://dwanddrc.wixsite.com/james-street)

We will keep lnks to James St on the Saneham Tey website as well. Stuart has generally updated the links on posts previously made on this thread.

Next exhibition-Bristol on 4-6 May.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on April 22, 2018, 11:37:58 AM
Hello all;

We are back on the road for Bristol (Thornbury) exhibition on 3-6 May.

http://www.bristolmodrailex.co.uk/page8.html (http://www.bristolmodrailex.co.uk/page8.html)

Look forward to meeting new and old friends.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Steamyjon on April 25, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
Wow what a layout! I’ve just read all 7 pages and was in two minds whether to go to the Farnham exhibition later this year but this layout has sealed it for me. I’m very local to it :thankyousign:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Al. on May 04, 2018, 11:38:39 PM
I managed to grab a few minutes away from Beijiao to have a good look James Street this afternoon. It's a superb layout. Lots of nice detail, and plenty of running action.
Well done guys. One of my favourites of the show.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on July 24, 2018, 12:58:32 AM
Hello all;

our next outing is at Southwold 4-5/8/18;

http://www.wvmrc.org.uk/page3.html (http://www.wvmrc.org.uk/page3.html)

and then Farnham, 13-14/10/18;

http://farnhammrc.org.uk/?page_id=102 (http://farnhammrc.org.uk/?page_id=102)

Hope to see some of you there!

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on July 24, 2018, 04:25:00 AM
Hi Martyn,

Very much hope to see James St. at Farnham.

It's a big layout and you probably have a routine for doing it but I'm a 49 year old 6'2" landscape gardener and only live 9 miles away so if you need an extra pair of hands to help shift stuff in and/or out of the exhibition room I'd be very willing to help.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on July 24, 2018, 04:38:57 AM
Hi Weave;

We might just take you up on that as we will probably be short handed setting up on Friday due to work commitments..........

One of us will keep in touch if required.

Many thanks.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on July 24, 2018, 04:49:36 AM
What you doing up at this ridiculous hour?

I'm too hot to sleep.

Anyway, no problem. I'm a self employed one man band and do what I like on a Friday so just let me know.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on July 24, 2018, 04:55:00 AM
weave-PM sent!

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 24, 2018, 12:07:21 PM
I can’t wait to see this fantastic layout again at Southwold  , I saw it at Thornbury and was just amazed ,Rob the Southwold  exhibition manager said  B H E are right opposite at Southwold and so we will be able to watch it both days ,he did say that unfortunately it will only be viewable from three sides due to the width of the Hall ,we are on one wall the layout in the middle and Squires on the other wall.and another layout is on the other end shame but it can’t be helped .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on July 27, 2018, 08:48:42 PM
For those of you in the North, we have a provisional invite to Wigan in October 2020-to be confirmed .

martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2018, 09:38:21 PM
Excellent. Wigan is the biggest show on the calender in the NW of England.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: port perran on July 27, 2018, 09:42:39 PM
Excellent. Wigan is the biggest layout on the calender in the NW of England.
Wigan.....haven’t seen that layout.
What era is it set in?   :D
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2018, 09:47:28 PM
Excellent. Wigan is the biggest layout on the calender in the NW of England.
Wigan.....haven’t seen that layout.
What era is it set in?   :D

 :doh:
I plead lack of sleep due to the heat as I'd already modified that small post twice due to errors, so make that 3 times. :thankyousign:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: 70000 on August 02, 2018, 04:00:58 PM
Hello all;

our next outing is at Southwold 4-5/8/18;

[url]http://www.wvmrc.org.uk/page3.html[/url] ([url]http://www.wvmrc.org.uk/page3.html[/url])

Martyn


I see from that link that you appear to have rebuilt it to S Scale !  :hmmm:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on August 02, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
Yes, it’s changed scale and region, plus we have potential problems in where the layout is to be located at the show. Come along and find out what happens!
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: darve on August 03, 2018, 07:05:46 AM
Yes, it’s changed scale and region, plus we have potential problems in where the layout is to be located at the show. Come along and find out what happens!

Morning Dave (Stuart, Martyn)

Have a good show this weekend. Intrigued to hear about the location issue!

Full write up/pictures needed after.

Have a good one and see you in Farnham

Wigan.. Nice!.

(Other) Dave.   



Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on August 03, 2018, 12:07:18 PM
Hi Dave

I’m just worried about who is going to shunt all those vans......you do that so well!

Wigan will indeed be interesting - never been to a show oop North! Perhaps we can have a team outing to a Northern Soul night!

See you at Farnham

Dav
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on August 03, 2018, 01:01:51 PM
Don't know about change of region-depends on how much of my stock is used........ :D

For those that are not aware, James St is in Modeller for September as 'Railway of the month' with photos taken at the Bristol show earlier this year.

See you tomorrow.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 03, 2018, 01:32:01 PM
I’m looking forward to seeing James St again we will be opposite the layout with the B H Enterprises stand so will be able to see it for both days I think the issue with the location is that the layout will only be viewable on three sides due to the width of the Hall and another layout on one side ,but we will see when we get there . Rob the exhibition manager has been organising the show for more years than he cares to remember, he is a very nice guy and is organising some club  members to help Ray unload and set up the stand on Saturday as I am not allowed to do any lifting at all for at least two weeks after my Operation on Monday so if you see me just sitting down it’s NOT ME BEING LAZY just for health reasons I don’t want to bust the stitches .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on August 03, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
I'm sure we can manage to post some photos too, we still have the Bristol ones to publish, we were waiting to see what the modeler was using first tbough, so there may well be a bumper crop of photos to publish, BUT if we are only three sided there may well be constraints on what can be photographed. Photo update later on in the week.
 Some one will have to have a crash course in shunting those vans!!!!

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on August 09, 2018, 09:14:23 PM
Evening all
   As promised photos.
These photos are from Bristol, sorry for the delay but it was felt that the modeller should have some exclusivity. I will apologise in advance if any of the pictures bear a resemblance to those in the modeller, I haven't seen the mag as I neither subscribe or purchase. Further photos will appear on the website in due course.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/349-090818202523.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67993)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/349-090818202746.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67994)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/349-090818203147.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67995)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/349-090818203915.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67997)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/349-090818204429.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67998)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/349-090818204747.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=67999)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/349-090818205125.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68000)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818205432.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68001)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818205930.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68002)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818210126.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68003)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818210333.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68004)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818210518.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68005)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818210727.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68006)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818210914.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68007)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818211045.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68008)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-090818211203.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68009)


 Southwolds are next to do but not tonight.

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 10, 2018, 07:35:03 AM
Many thanks for another set of excellent photos. of this superb layout. Good to see part of the train of international ferry vans in the first photo. (I do hope that an article on building them will appear.)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on August 10, 2018, 07:23:35 PM
The ferry train is owned by Martyn, i am sure he can provide more details and i think there may even be a thread dedicated to at least part of the ferry train on this forum somewhere. I should also have put a comment on the photo of the dock yard, the boat itself is of interest but the tram is far more interesting, all credit goes to Martyn, its a white metal kit, B&H Enterprises for those interested, motorised quite an achievement itself but Martyn has also converted it too DCC!!!!

  Back too todays post.
Photo update from Southwold last weekend, more photos will appear on the website in due course.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-100818190514.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68022)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-100818190729.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68023)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-100818190920.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68024)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-100818191159.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68025)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-100818191351.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68026)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-100818191512.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68027)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/349-100818191724.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68028)

 There maybe other photos of the ferry train on the "Saneham Tey" thread, as Martyn runs stock on both layouts, possibly a future project would be to photo the train in more detail.

Clicking on an image will increase the size of the photo.

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 10, 2018, 08:52:42 PM
Many thanks, Stuart, for the answer and a photo. of Martyn's superb ferry van train. I recall that Maryn did give some basic details of how he scatchbuilt the vans but I'd love a detailed 'Idiot' Guide" so I can have go. (I did buy the Ferry Wagon book he recommended.)

The "Toby the Tram Engine" model looks excellent, too. A close-up photo., please.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on August 10, 2018, 09:06:37 PM
Hello again Chris;

the tram is missing its bell; we were opposite BH Enterprises at Southwold, and I jokingly asked Bob Tidsbury if he had just a bell-to which he replied 'of course', and promptly sold me one; he and Ray were quite pleased with the result of the tram model. When I get around to fitting the bell, Stuart can take a closer photo.....incidently, as a GER enthusiast, I think the tram kit is a cross breed of the 6 wheel J70 and the 4 wheeled Y6. In keeping with that, mine runs on a Farish 4 wheeled DMU motor bogie, but is numbered into the J70 series, as they were longer lived than the Y6s! The livery in BR days was black all over on the J70s, as per my model, but I think the Y6s body was brown/wood, as per 'Toby'.

I did do a thread on building the ferry vans;

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=35312.msg413062#msg413062 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=35312.msg413062#msg413062)

If you PM me, I'll try and answer any ponts you would like me to clarify.

Paul Cheffus has also built some exquisite Belgian vans, with photos on the Forum.

HTH

martyn





Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 11, 2018, 04:40:36 PM
Many thanks, Martyn. That is very helpful.

Maybe the NGS can be persuaded to commission an RTR BR Ferry Van (VIX) and offer its chassis, separately, too?

I did not know about Paul Cheffus's Belgian vans.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 03, 2018, 07:11:32 PM
Hello;

just a reminder that James St will be at the Farnham show on October 13+14 October 2018.

The next show will be Broadstairs (Kent) on 17/18 November.

We look forward to meeting new and old friends, and bearing in mind some of the comments on another thread, you are welcome to talk to us (Please do!) and take photos.

We so far have five booking for 2019, and are now taking bookings and enquiries into 2020 and 2021!

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on October 03, 2018, 11:55:33 PM
hopefully going to make Broadstairs.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 04, 2018, 07:34:37 AM
Nice to see you again, Graham! Are you the most dedicated viewer :O) ?

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on October 04, 2018, 07:54:39 AM
Just so happens I will be back in the UK in Nov, and always look for exhibitions to attend. This time I have 2 weekends free, 17/18 and 24/25 so will come down to Broadstairs on the first weekend and then my first visit to Warley on the 2nd weekend.
Graham
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Si.T on October 13, 2018, 08:44:53 PM
I say this layout at Farnham today. What a fantastic  layout, only had two hours at the show and kept going back to watch the trains go bye.
I could have spent hours trying to take it all in. what an impressive display platform to showcase N gauge.
Highly recommend a viewing if you get the chance.
Thanks guys
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Ali Smith on October 13, 2018, 10:24:24 PM
Quite agree. Well worth the journey from Bedford, especially as Melton Mowbray was there as well.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 16, 2018, 12:38:30 PM
Hello again;

That was Farnham exhibition been and gone...……..May I say a very big 'Thank you' to the Farnham club and its members for looking after the exhibitors so well, throughout the weekend  :thankyousign:

Hopefully, Stuart will have some photos to upload soon.

It was very nice to meet and talk with so many visitors, even though Dave, Stuart and I (the three of us who post on here) are in the middle operating well and talking over the layout is not always easy! It was also good to see Chris/Weave who helped with setting up on Friday.


Thanks for the compliments above; we had many positive comments from visitors, and it was nice to know we appear to be getting it 'right' for them. I can guarantee that every time you see the layout, it will not be the same as last time; Steve is still working on additional scenery and electrics, and we NEVER have the same stock and locos out at each exhibition, or at least the same combinations of stock and locos-about 1/2 to 1/3 of our total remains unused, but a different total each time.

Next exhibition is Broadstairs in November, then, I think Cheltenham in March 2019. we did have enquiries for further bookings-we'll let you know as and when they are confirmed.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on October 21, 2018, 08:32:17 PM
Evening all

 As promised a few photos from last weekends show at Farnham.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/349-211018194150.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=70328)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/349-211018194418.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=70331)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/349-211018194612.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=70332)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/349-211018195113.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=70334)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/349-211018195438.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=70335)



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/349-211018195635.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=70336)
Sorry about the spot lights!!!!

 These two are my personal favourites and also appear on the website.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/349-211018200326.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=70337)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/70/349-211018200539.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=70338)

Next photo update after Broadstairs in three weeks.

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on October 21, 2018, 09:15:06 PM
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the pics. As I said to Martyn in a PM it was great to meet you all the other Friday and sorry I couldn't come on the Sunday to see it running and help load up.

Saying that I was ing useless trying to help set it up but it was a great insight into how it's done.

Thank you again and hope to see you all and the layout running another day.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on October 21, 2018, 10:14:08 PM
Thank you weave for making the effort to come help us on the Friday evening, it was a pleasure to meet you, setting up is still very much a learning curve, Steve is the expert as he built it, everyone else only really sees James St at the exhibitions for assembly and disassembly. As you know we are at broadstairs next month if you are in the area, come by and have a look at it running. As I've said many times the photos do not do the layout justice,  it is just too big to photograph.

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on November 12, 2018, 01:12:04 PM
James Street will be at the Broadstairs show this weekend, so any Forum members coming song please feel free to introduce yourselves!

There have been some more changes to the layout (they never stop!) so come along and see us if you can!

Dave
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 19, 2018, 07:01:32 PM
Hi;

we had a very good weekend at Broadstairs, and once again, 'thank you' to the home club for looking after us.

Late Saturday and first thing Sunday, we tried to see how much Nigel's Dapol 28XX could pull. We got to 116 wagons, and it was still game for more, but we didn't want to 'play trains'. It later ran as a 50 wagon train, which is the limit for siding length on the layout. I think Stuart shot some video, which he may be posting here later.

We also had a visitor take some video, and the result is here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciHFWaQf67U&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciHFWaQf67U&feature=youtu.be)

It is 14 minutes long, all James St, so for those who would like to see the layout in action, and have not done so before, its a good introduction. It doesn't include shots of the harbour, nor much of the terminus.

Our next outing is Leamington in March 2019; we also had a couple of enquiries for next year or 2020.

Martyn





Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on November 19, 2018, 08:24:19 PM
was really hoping to make it, however family commitments meant i could not get down there. glad you had a good show.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: red_death on November 20, 2018, 01:42:23 AM
I was impressed with James St on Saturday (I was helping a fried with his Whatley layout at the Broadstairs show) - could do with some Class B tanks ;-)

Cheers Mike
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on November 20, 2018, 09:42:52 AM
Hello Mike;

Should have come over and said hello!

I thought seriously about class B tanks after seeing the magnificent models at Warley last year; BUT our oil depot is Shell/BP, and would have been mostly 'low flash' fuels such as petrol, diesel (DERV, if anyone remembers...), and possibly Avgas/Avtur, lubricating oils and paraffin. Sadly, I personally couldn't justify them.

But having seen them again in the flesh, I should have applied Rule One  ;)

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on November 26, 2018, 08:28:31 PM
Evening all

Couple of updates from the last two exhibitions, not the usual format this time, but a bit of fun was had with a peak at Farnham show which managed quite a load coal hoppers then at Broadstairs we tried again with a little steamer (sorry i am a modern diesel nerd, these steamy things i know not what that they are, all a mystery)!!! this surpassed all expectations in its haulage capacity. So sit back and enjoy.

First up the peak at Farnham



Secondly the steamer at Broadstairs



Regards Stuart

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on November 26, 2018, 09:15:33 PM
Photos from our recent outing to Broadstairs.

Just visible in this photo are the new mooring points on  the quayside and the rebuilt dock side crane.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/349-261118204216.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71925)

One of the new cameo scenes that Steve has created, its there on the layout if you can find them

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/349-261118204552.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71927)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/349-261118204802.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71929)

Junction station with local DMU and up and down freights trundling through

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/349-261118205111.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71930)

Lower goods yard and goods shed

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/349-261118205901.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71931)

Delivery truck struggling uphill on the High St

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/349-261118210451.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71932)

Lower goods yard as viewed from the inside operating well out towards the viewing public

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/349-261118210909.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71933)

Class 20 D8011 awaiting its next freight shunting duty whilst in the background steam locos litter the engine yard and coal loading facilities.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/71/349-261118211134.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=71934)

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on November 27, 2018, 07:55:42 AM
We will have to give Stuart some recognition training for "steamers"! It's a Dapol 38xx and it ran like an absolute dream with 112 minerals plus guards van. The only occasional problem was Rapido coupling failure......the loco never missed a beat, up or downhill,  and wasn't even warm after two hours of running. Who says N gauge steam locos are rubbish?!
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on February 25, 2019, 08:54:38 PM
Hello all;

We should be at the Leamington and Warwick show this coming weekend, 2+3 March.

https://www.lwmrs.co.uk/index.php/exhibition-contents (https://www.lwmrs.co.uk/index.php/exhibition-contents)

Steve has done some rewiring (a lot!) and further scenery work; I've built a new ship and some cranes for the harbour. Unfortunately, Dave/Southerngooner is unable to attend, but if you do come, please make yourselves known.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Ensign Elliott on March 02, 2019, 10:13:28 PM
Saw this today at Leamington - what an amazing layout!

Are the cranes scratch built? How were they made?
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on March 04, 2019, 01:27:34 PM
Hello;

Good that you enjoyed the layout!

The cranes are hybrids; they have Faller (Kibri seem identical) base/legs, and Scalelink cabs and jibs. This was because it was decided by Steve (the owner) that the Faller/Kibri cranes looked wrong with fixed jibs, implying that the jibs could not be topped (lowered or raised) to allow cargo work. The Scalelink cranes were then looked at but they were not able to span the height or width of a rail track to allow a track to run between the legs for wagons to run on. They also have a funny arrangement where the jibs pivot to allow topping up or down. The Scalelink cab/machinery room units and longer jibs also allow some vertical development of the scenery in this area; the Kibri/Faller originals were lost behind the quayside warehouses.

The bases are slightly modified; as designed, the legs are designed to 'splay' a little making a slightly pyramidal shape. It was decided to alter this and make the legs vertical; so the two rail sets of legs were glued at 90 degrees to the base, and then the 'end' legs had a little of the top mount filed away to fit between the now vertical wheel legs. U-section beams were also added to the wheel sets of legs for improved strength, and also seem more common prototypically than none fitted to these legs. See post #144 for more explanation.

The Scalelink etches for the cabs and jibs had a bigger modification. The sides and ends of the cab/machinery room were assembled as designed, but the cab was cut off and replaced by a solid roof. The model is designed to have the jib pivot on an etched arm in front of the cab; but this looks wrong, so the jib was moved to be top mounted on the roof area. This enabled the machinery room to be turned 180 degrees and the jib support unit was now at the back of the crane. I think that this would look even better cut off and then roof mounted to allow the rigging of the jib and hook to be a little more typical design; but it is a lot of work to do. The jib was folded up from etched brass, three sides, with the bottom being a seperate etch and soldered on after folding the rest. This is the worst part of the job! This was then solderd to the cab sides. Plasticard counter weights were added to the etched ones to make the unit look a little more '3D' and not flush with the jib lattice, like the real ones (not flush, that is).

Rigging for the jib and hook was made from brass wire; it hangs straight, and is not furry or forms a funny twist like cotton does if used this way. The hook is part of the kit, with small spherical weights made from tiny beads. A bonus was found that the Faller cab glazing, if cut down about 1.5mm all around, would fit the revised cab/machinery arrangement and make the new driver's position cab. Doors were added from Plasticard.

Painting, after a thorough cleaning and degrease, was with Halford's rattle can grey Plastic Primer; weathering with Humbrol blue/grey wash and some 'rust' dry brushing.

If all goes well, Stuart/Grid078 should be posting some photos later this week.

You can see the 'protoype' first build in Grid078 photo in post number 138, before mass production was approved.

Four cranes down, four to go-until Steve decides he wants more for the proposed harbour extension..........

This is an expensive exercise, though, as obviously full kits of both the Faller and Scalelink cranes need to be bought for each crane, then about 50% discarded....but the Faller crane cabs, with a new roof, make reasonably good huts or mess rooms for the dockers.

HTH

martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Ensign Elliott on March 05, 2019, 01:52:48 PM
Excellent, many thanks for the detailed reply. I'll have ago and doing the same for my Fowey harbour layout.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on March 05, 2019, 01:58:35 PM
Best of luck!

For me, folding the jib squarely is the worst part...……

Martyn

Later addition; having put the wheel legs of the base on at 90 degrees, if you choose to go down this route you will need to razor saw the end legs from the cross girder to allow the cross girder and legs to be filed individually to shape to fit the now vertical wheeled legs.

Obviously, if you chose to build the crane base as supplied, this won't be needed.

martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Milton Rail on March 08, 2019, 09:12:17 AM
We will have to give Stuart some recognition training for "steamers"! It's a Dapol 38xx and it ran like an absolute dream with 112 minerals plus guards van. The only occasional problem was Rapido coupling failure......the loco never missed a beat, up or downhill,  and wasn't even warm after two hours of running. Who says N gauge steam locos are rubbish?!

Brilliant videos, the fact all the couplings behaved was what impressed me... my last attempt of a long train (only 43 tar tankers) was repeatedly thwarted by couplers separating.....
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 08, 2019, 09:41:12 AM
Others have recommended 'tacky wax' for fixing recalcitrant couplings, Andrew. 8-)
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: honk843 on March 08, 2019, 09:58:49 AM
This is a really good ad for this particular Dapol model. People only normally only put on posts about problems. I must say that I have one of these too and was amazed at its pulling power although 50 wagons is all I tried. More would not be appropriate for the layout.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on March 08, 2019, 10:57:17 AM
That was the main reason for posting the video. N gauge locos get a lot of bad press but we work them quite hard on James Street and the number of problems is very low. I’m not saying we haven’t bought roguenlovos but they are a tiny minority, the bulk (bought both new and secondhand) have proved to be very good. And we are talking of around 80 locos here of al types.....
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on March 08, 2019, 02:06:13 PM
Or even "rogue locos", not "roguenlovos"





Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on March 08, 2019, 07:03:32 PM
Regarding the recent dock crane enquiry, we have not got a decent close up photo of one but i have managed to crop another photo down to suit, unfortunately there is rather a lot of background clutter.


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-080319190244.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74809)

Hope this helps to clarify some of the points raised.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on March 10, 2019, 07:47:07 PM
Evening all

  After a major fight with the forum and uploading photos here is the latest round of photos from our recent trip to Leamington & Warwick railway exhibition.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319192342.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74858)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319192656.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74859)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319192957.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74860)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319193213.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74861)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319193340.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74862)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319193454.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74863)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319193607.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74864)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319193658.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74865)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319194007.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74866)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319194130.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74867)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319194336.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74868)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/349-100319195310.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=74869)

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 13, 2019, 06:45:35 PM
congratulations on the railway modeller cup 2018 2nd   place
as announced in the  magazine
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 13, 2019, 06:54:21 PM
congratulations on the railway modeller cup 2018 2nd   place
as announced in the  magazine

Very well deserved. Whatever won 1st place must have been amazingly good, then.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 13, 2019, 07:02:30 PM
the winner surprisingly modelled the  settle and  carlisle, dent
sadly not in our scale
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 13, 2019, 07:09:01 PM
the winner surprisingly modelled the  settle and  carlisle, dent
sadly not in our scale

Thanks for telling me this. Dent is a very attractive location.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: crewearpley40 on March 13, 2019, 07:10:18 PM
sure is. many happy hours
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on March 14, 2019, 07:49:29 AM
Many thanks for your thoughts and congratulations, gentlemen.

This is the second time that Steve, the builder and owner, has won Warley with one of his layouts, and then come second overall in the 'Modeller'. He did this with 'Lynford junction' about 1998.

There have been a number of flippant and light-hearted jokey emails between the operators of 'James St' to see how Steve could improve the layout in order to have won the 'Modeller' award. Some might even happen.....

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on March 20, 2019, 09:44:39 PM
For those interested, our next (2019) bookings are;

Ilford 27+28 April

Great Central (Quorn) 14/15/16 June

TINGS 14/15 September

Spalding 2/3 November

Southend/Shoeburyness 16/17 November.

We so far have five bookings for 2020, including, @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264), Wigan

Martyn


Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2019, 09:55:19 PM
Great news, @martyn (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=447) , and you have plenty of time to save up for your thermals :laugh:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: cudders on April 18, 2019, 08:31:30 PM
Ahhh..

My favourite layout by far.

Nothing comes close IMO.  :heart2:

Cudders
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on April 18, 2019, 08:47:27 PM
Thanks for the appreciation, Cudders!

A bit far for you, but we are at Ilford 27/28 April, but closer to you at the Great Central/Quorn in June, and TINGS, with three more exhibitions in the Autumn, and I think we are already up to six or so next year, and already three (I think) for 2021 so far.

Steve has been adding and updating buildings, Dave/Southerngooner and myself have been building yet more stock, and I've been doing more for a future extension to the harbour, and Dave has also made a start on the loads of signals required.

We are also likely to feature in some magazine articles in the next couple of months as well, starting with  'Modeller'.

Martyn

 
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on May 22, 2019, 08:07:40 AM
For those of you who follow the layout, there are some photos in the June Railway Modeller, taken by Steve Flint at Bristol last year.

Our next exhibition is the Great Central event on June 14/15/16.

martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Bealman on May 22, 2019, 08:15:40 AM
Will keep an eye for them here in Oz.

A truly wonderful layout.  :thumbsup:

All accolades fully deserved.  :beers:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 22, 2019, 08:18:26 AM
Martyn. That was one beautiful write up and photos in railway modeller. Congratulations and me too. Hope to view it one day
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on June 16, 2019, 08:13:33 AM
just caught the video of James St at the GCR event last weekend. Will have to ensure my next trip to the UK coincides with a showing of this wonderful layout, have to see it in the flesh again so to speak. well done all.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on June 17, 2019, 10:40:24 AM
That was impressive Graham, we got the message on the Forum as we were leaving the show! There are several videos of the weekend, and the running on most is good, although a few trains seem to have been a bit enthusiastically drive at times.

The GCR event was one of the best we have been to, both in terms of layout operation (no major problems and most things ran well) and also for comments on the layout. We are also getting popular with the magazines too. After the RM article last year there will be a series of follow ups including one in September to tie in with TINGS.  Model Rail have taken photos (in Steve’s garage so not of the whole layout unfortunately) which will also be out for September, and Steve did a video interview for a future BRM DVD which should come out next year. They are scheduled to take photos at TINGS too. Finally, Hornby magazine came looking for photos too but we will have to see how that will work.

Steve is finally getting the plaudits he richly deserves for such a great layout in my view. It’s great being part of the operating team and to hear the praises from visitors. Long may it continue!

Dave
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on August 10, 2019, 12:02:15 PM
There are some more photos of the layout accompanying an article which Dave/Southerngooner and I wrote in the September 'Railway Modeller'.

The next exhibitions we are invited to are TINGS in September, and Spalding in November. We had been invited to Shoebury/Southend in November, but this show has been cancelled by the organisers for this year.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on August 15, 2019, 10:39:39 AM
I've updated the James Street website today with our new exhibition bookings. We are going to be busy next year, with eight shows to attend, and five already in the pipeline for 2021. Next year sees us travel north to Wigan, west to Swansea, south to Portsmouth and east to Canterbury, so we will get to see a fair bit of the country!

Steve is beavering away with more detailing on the layout, plus getting ready to renew three control panels to simplify wiring next summer. Martyn  and I continue to build more stock, and I really must get on with the signals.....

We've had a few articles published in the Railway Modeller, and are due articles in Model Rail and BRM in coming months, so the name is finally getting out there. Steve deserves the recognition after making such a fine layout!

We hope to see you at one of our future shows, please come up and make yourself known. The next show is TINGS.........

Dave 
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: crewearpley40 on August 15, 2019, 10:48:07 AM
thank you for that

look forward to meeting at tings and having a close up study and a conversation. safe travelling and hope that you receive a positive response
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on August 15, 2019, 07:54:27 PM
Hi Dave,

Thanks for that. Just checked your site and it says the Portsmouth booking is April 4th and 5th 2020. Just checked the Portsmouth FC fixture list and we (Pompey) are playing Bristol Rovers so think I'll make a long day out of it.

You probably wont remember me, I think you were there, but tried to help set up on a Friday in Farnborough (I think) this year but was about as useful as (can't think of a clean one) but something that's not very useful and probably just got in the way.

I was supposed to come back on the Sunday to see the the layout in action (and then help  :no: disassemble but couldn't) so looking forward to seeing the layout in all it's glory.

Also looking forward to the port extensions and Martyn's ships.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on August 15, 2019, 09:20:34 PM
Hi Chris

I certainly do remember you from Farnham last year. You did well to help us in setting up, and we had looked forward to seeing you on the Sunday, but it wasn’t to be. We look forward to seeing you in April!

Save
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on August 16, 2019, 08:57:12 AM
Thanks Dave,

Slight problem for me in that I just realised that April 4th is the day of N Gauge Southeast 2020 in Reigate so as long as I can get it past my good lady, I think I'll sack the football (there are other games) and go to Reigate on the Saturday and down to you on the Sunday.

It's a long way away so have plenty of time to think of excuses. One day's railways is fair enough but two maybe stretching it. I might have to bring her with me and treat her to lunch at Port Solent. I'll be saving on the football ticket so not so bad.

Sorry for clogging up your thread but hope to see you next year.

Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on August 16, 2019, 12:42:01 PM
Hello again Chris;

Dave's an Arsenal supporter-its a bit difficult for him to get to matches from France! You can always see another game...……

I'm still building four more ships (one about half done), but Steve is updating and simplifying some of the control panels before he does much to the dock extension. But its all drawn out on paper, and he has much of the trackwork needed for building it. He is also working on getting buses running on the roads via a Faller, or more probably, a Tomix method.

Hope that your own ships are coming on!

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: port perran on August 16, 2019, 01:04:43 PM
Hi Dave,

Thanks for that. Just checked your site and it says the Portsmouth booking is April 4th and 5th 2020. Just checked the Portsmouth FC fixture list and we (Pompey) are playing Bristol Rovers so think I'll make a long day out of it.


Cheers Chris (weave)  :beers:

Bristol Who?
Best avoided Chris, at all costs!

Martin
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on August 16, 2019, 01:52:00 PM
Chris;

Not sure what your football fixtures will be, but looking ahead, we are booked at Epsom in April 2021, and Woking in September 2021.

I think these will be closer to home!

martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on August 16, 2019, 04:22:09 PM
Blimey, I'll probably be in the big pub in the sky by then (or the Devil's Cellar?). I believe you can smoke in both  ;) but thank you.

Seriously, the Woking one sounds good as I mainly work in Ottershaw just down the road.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on August 19, 2019, 12:17:50 AM
So Southend is definitely cancelled then?
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on August 19, 2019, 06:16:41 AM
Yes, Southend/Shoebury in November is cancelled by the organisers.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on October 04, 2019, 02:59:06 PM
Hi

I have updated the "James Street" website today with our latest exhibition bookings, plus a page giving links to videos of the layout taken at various shows this year. The website can be found at https://dwanddrc.wixsite.com/james-street if you haven't seen it already.

Enjoy!

Dave
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on October 13, 2019, 01:27:43 PM
Thanks for that! Great looking website. I might be tempted by RAILEX2020 in Aylesbury!

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 28, 2019, 06:45:03 PM
Hi;

I'm not sure what Steve has done to the scenery since TINGS, but he has replaced two(?) control panels, to make set up and take down quicker, and also improve electrical reliability. Dave has been working on some signals; I've built more stock (!), and I'm working on more ships in advance of Steve's planned harbour extension.

The layout is at Spalding on 2-3 November, then Canterbury in January 2020. Unfortunately, I can't make Spalding (and missed TINGS as well), but hope to be at Canterbury. My stock and ships will be there, though.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on October 31, 2019, 07:39:33 PM
Evening all.

  As mentioned by Martyn earlier in the week James St is attending Spalding M.R.C this weekend.
Martyn is unable to attend, the boats, cranes and stock that he supplies are currently with me, i took the opportunity to photograph his boats and cranes which tend to get swallowed up within the dock yard.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/349-311019192903.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=83414)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/349-311019193336.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=83416)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/349-311019193550.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=83417)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/349-311019193748.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=83418)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/349-311019193908.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=83419)

Regards Stuart
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 31, 2019, 08:45:48 PM
Lovely to see them in closer detail, Stuart. Many thanks.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on October 31, 2019, 09:59:21 PM
Thanks for posting these, Stuart.

For anyone interested, the crane is one of eight I have built. As mentioned on another post is a hybrid of a Faller/Kibri base with Scale link jib etched brass jib and a modified Scale link cab. The Scale link crane is designed with an unusual arrangement where the jib pivots up and down; I changed the cab orientation 90 degrees, but I decided against an even greater modification as it would have involved cutting off the frame which is now at the back of the crane cab and mounting it on the roof. I thought discretion was the greater part of valour...…..

'Shell Welder' is from the former Frog kit, and is more or less out of the box, except for replacement etched hand/guard rails and tank valve wheels. The transfers for the name and funnel banding are also extras, as the kit did not come with these.

The green hulled ship is converted from the Shell Welder hull, and uses some other parts of the kit. It is meant to represent a bulk carrier or general cargo vessel similar to the 1960s Dutch Schuyts ('Skoots'), but its layout, on reflection, may be a bit more modern....

The grey hulled ship is also from the Shell Welder hull. Extensive use was made of Plasticard and Plastruct card and shaped mouldings (eg the handrails and ladders) to complete it. I had to scratch build the amidships deckhouse and the hatch coamings, as well as many other bits. The cargo is by a variety of sources; Peco, Hornby, and Steve's scrapbox…….It is designed to represent a 1950s motor coaster or short sea trader, carrying general cargo. I rigged the two sets of cargo derrick on the #2 hatch as working in Union Purchase rig, but I had to simplify some of the rigging; eyesight, space, and fat finger trouble. For reference, this took about 120-140 hours to build over last winter.

I really must get around to printing transfers for names and port of registry. The mooring lines are overscale, as I used rubberised cotton from bead sets to enable the lines to be set over the bollards on the quayside. If the ships were permanently on the layout, I'd have used finer cotton, but as they have to be removed for transport, I used the rubberised cotton.

On the slipway is a well-deck 1950s general cargo coaster, which started life as a Revell kit for the North Sea trawler; it is being converted in a similar manner to the grey ship. This is about 75% complete, and may be in service for Canterbury in January 2020, but we only have room for three 'big' ships in the current harbour. I have also completed a an Artitect Dutch 'Tjalk' canal/river barge (a VERY pleasing kit to build straight out of the box) and a Gramodels 'Puffer'. Perhaps I can get Stuart to post these as well.

I still have another trawler to build as something; and also another Shell Welder kit. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with them yet, but watch this space...….

The layout is due to appear in the model press in January, and having seen some of the photos taken for this article, if they are published, the dock shows up, IMHO, very well, showcasing Steve's talent.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: chrispearce on October 31, 2019, 11:07:22 PM
All very splendid models. I love docks/ships. Having grown up in Bristol, holidayed in Cornwall AND had 2 brothers as Naval Officers it would seem reasonable ;).
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: weave on November 01, 2019, 12:08:00 AM
Hi Martyn (and Stuart),

Thanks for the info and lovely models. Jealous as ever. One day I'll get my ships done but probably not til about 2030 and then not very good.

Great stuff.

Cheers weave  :beers:
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 10, 2019, 09:22:54 AM
Hi;

A short progress report.

Our next exhibitions are Canterbury, 18+19 January, Doncaster 8+9 February, and Victory/Portsmouth 4+5 April, and Railex/Aylesbury 23+24 May. We have a break then until September, then so far, seven in six months (three in five weeks), involving a lot of travel!

Steve has finished rebuilding the three main control boards, which are now permanently connected to the scenic boards, instead of being separate and plugged in/out at exhibitions. He's also still adding details to areas, and is working on getting the roundhouse turntable working, so that locos may be changed when they are in the sidings. Dave/Southerngooner is carrying on with more signals, and I'm still working on the next batch of ships for the proposed harbour extension, which is planned and drawn, but not yet started.

Dave and Stuart/grid078 are generally keeping the website updated, including show invites.

Hope to see some of you at the shows; please make yourselves known.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 27, 2019, 06:59:57 PM
We've had a good day at Steve's today testing out his re-wired and rebuilt control panels, and also the locos.

We have found, with exhibition experience, that the original layout and wiring of the panels was not optimal for our use, and also Steve wanted to reduce the physical size of them, to assist in transit, and also make them integral with the matching baseboard so as to minimise plug-in electrical connections. After a heck of a lot of work (and now redundant wiring)  he has succeeded-we think. Running today, the new panels 'did what it says on the tin'...……..and so we are hopeful that under full exhibition running, they will prove more reliable and enable us to undertake moves that were previously difficult to set up.

We also decided to test run all the locos we have available for use. This involved, we think, about 120 locos in total. Steve ensured that the wheels were cleaned, then we ran them on two of the upper circuits, then on a very convoluted track path, involving the middle level, the lower goods yard reception roads, and one reversing loop, directly into the lower main engine shed. We don't put this number of locos out at exhibitions, but it does enable us to have a good few 'spares' to allow for failures during the period of a show.

We were pleasantly surprised that we only had four initial failures to run at acceptable speeds and control; and after some tinkering, we got three out of the four to go properly.

Look forward to seeing at least some of you at Canterbury in January, and Doncaster in February.

Martyn

Later addition: it was interesting listening to Radio Two at lunchtime during the trial runs when Sir Rod Stewart was being interviewed about his model railway!

 



Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Dr Al on December 27, 2019, 10:38:32 PM
Out of interest, what were the problem child locos?

I'm interested as your wonderful layout must be a very good test of loco longevity, given its size and use in an exhibition setting.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 28, 2019, 09:36:35 AM
The main non-runners were 2 x Fairburn and 2 x Standard 3 tanks. These all ran, but were 'lumpy'; after some tinkering, three out of four worked again, leaving one Standard 3 to be looked at again, but we didn't test run this one until virtually the end of the day, and didn't have time to look at it. We did find that giving a lap or two on about half throttle settled a few more locos into smoother running.

Steve did say yesterday that his hand-built controllers have been built to have a maximum output of 8-9V. This doesn't affect the 'top speed' of most of the locos for exhibition purposes, as we try to run well below this. However, it does mean that some Dapol locos, noticeably B17s and a Western, run no faster than, probably, a scale 50mph, and need a fair bit of turning of the control knob before they move. Conversely, a Dapol 121 'bubble car' shoots off at very little encouragement.

For most of the trials, we left the controller untouched for speed. It was noticeable of the variation in speed between locos that this resulted in, including locos of the same class! On a few occasions, a loco was just about 'lapped' by the time it arrived at the shed by the loco following it, having been set off one circuit of the upper layout apart.

We also had a diesel that shed its bogie sideframe (easily clipped back), and two or three with bent sanding pipes which fouled part of the track or valve gear; once discovered, again, easily cured.

Considering that most of the locos (and stock) now only gets used at exhibitions, and not at home, we were pleasantly surprised at the relatively low number of problems encountered. The initial lap or two was to free them up again, as most have not run for at least a month, some even more, and some of the locos (mine) live in an unheated garage.

It did show the flexibility of running trains on the layout, as one controller was used on one circuit to give the initial lap or two, then a second controller powered the loco for the rest of the run, but de-isolating some areas with the switches that Steve has built in to the control panels (and was one of the things we need to test on the new panels). Normally, at least three, or four, operators would be needed to perform what we did yesterday; but of course, locos had to run in the same direction, with no locos running the other way due to the need to set conflicting pointwork for two train running.

HTH

martyn



Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on December 28, 2019, 02:16:18 PM
Interesting reading with such a big sample of locos. Less than 3% initial problem rate.... How often do you need to lubricate them (if at all)?
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Dr Al on December 28, 2019, 02:48:44 PM
Interesting reading with such a big sample of locos. Less than 3% initial problem rate.... How often do you need to lubricate them (if at all)?

Interesting to hear Martyn's response, but I know it's stated on the large McKinley system on Youtube that they *never* oil locos unless absolutely mechanically necessary - oiling generally ends up with problems.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: woodbury22uk on December 28, 2019, 04:09:06 PM
Interesting reading with such a big sample of locos. Less than 3% initial problem rate.... How often do you need to lubricate them (if at all)?

By coincidence today I unboxed and test ran my 35 years old Kato 10 car SNCF TGV, which has not been run for 10 years or so. I cleaned the wheels with a cocktail stick and some IPA, put it on the track and away it went. I have never lubricated it and it sounds today just as it did when new.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 28, 2019, 05:28:55 PM
I don't oil my locos, except the recommended initial lubrication of Dapol locos. Most of the time, I'm cleaning off factory applied excesses...……I think Steve and Dave are likewise.

After each exhibition, failures, if any, are investigated; most are dirty contacts, despite the time Steve spends cleaning the layout, and the three of us the loco wheels. I also check out locos fitted with traction tyres for failures; usually one or two B1s or J39s have shed one, but not always. Because of the handling they get, we do find that some locos get distorted sanding pipes, which can foul track or valve gear.

For reference, locos include, but are not  limited to, the following classes, and vary from re-wheeled and gear changed Poole, split chassis Farish, latest version Farish, and Dapol; many classes have more than one example; note that the only Poole locos we use are two 20s double headed, and four cl20 chassis underneath cl15 and 16. All other Farish is to latest standards.

LMS
Duchess; Royal Scot; Jubilee; 5MT, 3F, 4F, Fairburn 4MTT, Ivatt 2MT 2-6-0, Jinties.

LNER
A1, B1, B17, J39, A5*, J70*.   *Rarely used, but they do go.....

GWR
28xx, Pannier (not sure which one). We also have visiting Western  classes courtesy of Nigel, both steam and diesel.

BR
Britannia, 5MT, 4MT mogul, 4MTT, 3MTT, Austerity.

Diesel
03*, 04*, 08*, 15, 16, 20, 24, 25/1, 25/2, 25/3, 27, 31, 37, 40, 44, 45, 47, 52, 55, Deltic (prototype), 101, 104, 108, 121, Blue Pullman. *Rarely used because of electrical unreliability when shunting, nor sufficient 'grunt' especially when pushing. The 15s and 16 are Poole chassis re-wheeled 20s. We usually use 15s or 20s for shunting.

We have found vast differences in performances between classes; one 28xx will pull 110 wagons, and has been filmed doing so; but the second barely manages 45.

We have also found that in general, the 'Peaks' are very slow running, even at full throttle, which is about 8-9V max. My Peak is no better on dcc.

We have found that the Pannier and some of the Jinties are more than capable of running all around the layout with a string of wagons, but despite tinkering, others are not reliable enough.

We have found that the 6-pin DMUs usually require a wheel clean during the show period.

Though we take all locos to exhibitions, we only need a proportion of them at any one time. We endeavour to change locos on second or subsequent days of exhibitions, and we never start with the same locos on day one as we did at any previous exhibition...…….guaranteed!

As stated in my previous post, Steve has built the controller with an output voltage limited to between 8+9V. Even this is rarely needed.

HTH some of you.

Martyn



Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Dr Al on December 28, 2019, 05:33:37 PM
We have also found that in general, the 'Peaks' are very slow running, even at full throttle, which is about 8-9V max. My Peak is no better on dcc.

Peaks (and split chassis class 40s) commonly suffer from internal bogie gearing that's slightly stiff on the stub axles - freeing this up generally helps.

Also, commutator clean and slot clean out can help as well.

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 28, 2019, 05:35:06 PM
Thanks, Alan.

I'll try that.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on December 28, 2019, 06:09:40 PM
Just thinking about it, the only serious failure when at exhibitions I've had with my own locos is a B1 shedding its right hand valve gear. The rivet holding the combination lever on sheared, and it all fell off. It still ran, but it didn't look good...…….changed for a new set of valve gear from BR Lines.

Steve had a couple of problems when testing at home when he had a stray voltage from somewhere zap a couple of motors, but when he traced the wiring fault, no problems since.

Steve also has a big problem, with his BR class 4 2-6-0. The electrical continuity between loco and tender via the drawbar is very poor. He has tried 'hard wiring' the two together, but its still not very good. In contrast, my own mogul runs very well. He has also hard wired some J39s and B1s, I think, but mine are OK as standard.

When trialling yesterday, it was noted that my chip fitted 108 was very slow. I changed the chip for a blank today, running it at 8.5V and it ran OK again; I then tried a different make of chip (TCC, I think) and it also runs OK with this chip fitted on 8.5V. if it doesn't like Steve's controllers when chipped, I'll put the blank back in.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on December 29, 2019, 05:05:31 PM
The next edition of BRM out on 3/1/20 will have a full length article on “James Street”, accompanied by some excellent photos taken by Andy York at TINGS. We hope you enjoy it.....!

As an aside to Martyn’s comments on the recent loco maintenance session it seems that all the 3MT BR standard tanks we own have a problem with slow running. They will run round all day but don’t like crawling along or complicated pointwork. I bought one recently secondhand and haven’t had a good chance to work on it, but it will form the basis of an N2 being built by Martyn from an Atso print. I hope a good strip down and the removal of the valve gear will make for improved running......

Dave
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: DarrwestLU6 on January 02, 2020, 07:07:51 PM
The next edition of BRM out on 3/1/20 will have a full length article on “James Street”, accompanied by some excellent photos taken by Andy York at TINGS. We hope you enjoy it.....!

Dave

Dave - I shall look out for that - should be a good read! Happy New Year to the James Street crew and looking forward to seeing the layout at one of the shows in 2020!
Darren
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 03, 2020, 09:23:07 PM
I don't like to blow our own trumpet, but having seen this in the magazine, I'd say that Andy York's photos are stunning...………I'll have to get a copy for a keepsake.

I hope that those who read it will agree.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Ensign Elliott on January 07, 2020, 12:51:00 PM


For anyone interested, the crane is one of eight I have built. As mentioned on another post is a hybrid of a Faller/Kibri base with Scale link jib etched brass jib and a modified Scale link cab. The Scale link crane is designed with an unusual arrangement where the jib pivots up and down; I changed the cab orientation 90 degrees, but I decided against an even greater modification as it would have involved cutting off the frame which is now at the back of the crane cab and mounting it on the roof. I thought discretion was the greater part of valour...…..



I've taken the plunge and bought a Scale Link jib to make something similar for my layout.

I'm having real difficulty bending the sides of the jib correctly however - the corners keep "rounding" rather than being nice 90 degree angles. This then distorts the entire jib.

How did you make yours so neat?
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 07, 2020, 02:35:03 PM
Hi;

I've answered your query on your thread about making crane jibs.

hope it helped.

martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 20, 2020, 10:34:57 AM
We had a very enjoyable weekend at Canterbury, and hope that any of you who saw us enjoyed it as well. An electrical gremlin for a short while on Saturday afternoon, and we were a bit short staffed on Sunday due to a family emergency. Towards the end of Sunday afternoon, we were doing request trains for a very enthusiastic younger member of the visitors...…….

The new control panels worked well, after the Grid 078/Stuart and Southerngooner/Dave got used to the new orientation of them. Next modification will be, probably, a new lighting system, as the current spotlight pattern is too patchy.

My latest ship model was on view in the harbour; named 'Corsair', it is a VERY kit bashed Revell North Sea trawler, converted to a well deck cargo ship of the 1950s, based on Everard's AUSTERITY'. Just a few finishing tweaks do to do on it.

Loco failures-just one.

One of my Britannias shed the female socket at the motor end of the drive shaft. I hope it has just slipped off and I can glue it back, but I've yet to find it...…….

martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on January 21, 2020, 05:18:59 PM
The website has now been updated with a new “What’s new” section. This will contain layout developments, new stock, and exhibition feedback. The first bit of content is an operator’s view of last weekends Canterbury show. Well done to Dave Forbes for such a good start!

Dave C
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: cudders on January 23, 2020, 10:01:04 PM
Excellent layout. Saw it a Tings for the first time.

Must get to Doncaster!

Cudders
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on January 24, 2020, 12:54:54 AM
hopefully next time I am back in the UK this will be at a show somewhere, so I get a chance to see it in the flesh again.
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 24, 2020, 09:23:31 AM
Hi;

The layout has its own website;

https://dwanddrc.wixsite.com/james-street

which is updated by Dave/Southerngooner and Stuart/grid078.

This includes all exhibition dates that we have. One exhibition not yet confirmed is Southend in November this year.

 This website is now getting close to the amount of photos it can hold, so Dave and Stuart are looking at other options to display the large number of photos we now have.

Look forward to seeing you, and please make yourselves known.

martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on January 27, 2020, 04:42:23 AM
thanks Martyn, we did meet at Erith a couple of years ago, next time I hope I can take you up on your offer of operating for a short while.

cheers
Graham
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on January 27, 2020, 09:32:43 AM
Hello Graham;

I remember you at Erith-but I think you couldn't make Broadstairs?

Anyway, hope to see you again at your convenience.

martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Graham on January 27, 2020, 09:53:35 AM
Hi Martyn,
Yes family got in the way of making Broadstairs. Looks like my next trip will be for TINGS 21, whilst I will be in Europe later this year I will only be in the UK for 4 days visiting family.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: grid078 on March 01, 2020, 05:46:49 PM
Evening all Martyn has asked me to post this on behalf of himself and Southern Gooner.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/88/349-010320174259.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=88122)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/88/349-010320174346.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=88123)

Dave/Southerngooner and I am currently jointly building an N2 tank for James St (and probably Saneham Tey as well). This is a bit difficult when Dave is in France, and I'm in north Essex!


The loco is a Shapeways 3D print from Atso-cad/Steviedc. Dave has contributed the Farish 3MTT chassis, and has altered the valve gear to suit. He has also made mounts for the body to fit the chassis.


I've done the work on the body. This includes handrails and knobs, replacement buffers, blower control, condensers and drains, vacuum pipes, and tank vents. I've still got to ballast it, the main drawback of 3D print bodies.


It almost seems a shame to paint it!


Next stage is a bit of cleaning up, and when the weather improves, Halford's rattle can plastic primer followed by a topcoat of Railmatch weathered black. Lining will be by Fox, if mine still works, and number/smokebox plate/power and RA by Railtec custom transfers. Varnish is still TBC.


I just hope the rest of the build goes OK.

Questions to Martyn and Dave, i`m just the messenger.

Regards Stuart

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout-N2 Atso-cad design build
Post by: martyn on March 02, 2020, 12:31:49 PM
Thanks for posting that, Stuart.

This has now had a primer coat, and awaits its topcoat.

One problem that I think 3D prints have is the weight; I've put lead sheet or shot in nearly all the spaces available, but not (yet) the bunker or cab roof. This gives an all-up weight of 49g, about the same as a Jinty, a little more than a J94, quite a bit more than the 03 diesel, but much less than my Langley N2 and N7 on Poole chassis.

A haulage test around my uneven and irregular test oval with radius 2 (?) setrack curves gave four heavy kit built coaches with ease, and at least six Blue Riband Mk1s-sufficient for its intended use, I think.

Onward with painting and decorating...…..

martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on March 17, 2020, 06:40:56 PM
Steve has been advised, not surprisingly, that the next shows we were due to attend are cancelled: Portsmouth Victory (as per Dave's post below, by us not the club) and Railex/Aylesbury. This means that our next scheduled show will be Loughborough Soar Valley in late August, all being well, then Swansea and Wigan. All, of course, subject to what happens in the UK in the next few months.

Steve has decided to use this time to try and complete the upper level roundhouse and turntable. This will involve motorising the turntable, possibly some modifications to the number of shed roads, an office type building, water tower and coal drop: I think he is going to base the latter on an LTSR design. He then wants to change two buildings on the corner near the James St terminus.  If this is completed, the next work will be stage one of the new harbour extension. Watch this space!

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on March 17, 2020, 06:54:27 PM
I think to be strictly correct Victory MRC have yet to cancel their exhibition scheduled for 4/5 April, but James Street has pulled out due to the risk to the operating team. I presume the club will cancel at some stage but their website still shows it going ahead.

Dave
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout-N2 update
Post by: martyn on March 17, 2020, 06:58:01 PM
I've managed to push ahead with it, but not without a couple of problems.

After priming and painting the body as outlined previously, I managed to line one side with the Fox lining I already had, but needed a new sheet for the other side. As usual, I sealed the matt weathered black topcoat with Klear varnish. I then managed to line one side with Fox transfers I already had, but I had to get a fresh sheet for the other side. All went well, so I then sealed the lining with Klear before giving a final varnish with original Dullcote.

Disaster!

The old lining on the first side all wrinkled and partly lifted. Thankfully the new lining wasn't affected. So I had to gently sand back the tank and bunker on the affected side, hand repaint them, and reline using the new lining. A coat of Klear again,  and heart in mouth, Dullcote.

Success!

I presume the glue in the old sheet was past its use by date and had lost its adhesive properties.

Turned brass safety valves from N brass were added, and I'm now just adjusting the body to the chassis, as I was a bit too generous with the lead ballast, and have had to grind some off to clear the wheels. I'm just about there now, and hope to have it finished soon.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: martyn on April 07, 2020, 02:34:23 PM
A bit more progress.

I'm pleased to say that the N2 is finished, and, at least to my eyes, looks rather good. The only thing I'm a little disappointed with is the haulage capacity; even with lead anywhere I could fit it (except in the bunker), its top load seems to be 4-5 Mk1s. But then again, for the duties envisaged on James St, this will be enough.

Steve sent a short video, and he has the turntable working on the test bed; after further testing, and some alterations to the shed roads, it will be installed.

He also measured up more accurately for the LTSR coaler, and found he hadn't quite enough space. So he has built a coaler based on (I think) Stranraer; this is a kit bashed Ratio coaler with a scratch built 'hut' alongside for the operators. A siding for the breakdown train/crane is also being investigated.

Dave and I are still building signals; there's still a long way to go with them...…and I've started the hull of the next ship for the harbour, but I've yet to decide how I'll finish it. After this one, Steve wants a collier, but I already have idea of how to do that.

Martyn

Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on April 08, 2020, 02:59:25 PM
And for proof of Martyn's skills as a loco builder here are pictures of the N2, ready for service on James Street. It is a wonderfully detailed model, and is a credit to Atso's excellent design and detailing of the 3D print. It is mounted on a Farish 3MT chassis donated by myself, making this the first collaboration between Martyn and I for many years!

Dave
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout-finished N2
Post by: martyn on April 08, 2020, 03:07:00 PM
Thanks for posting that, Dave.

I really must try myself again.

I'll also try and get the photos more in focus.....

 BTW, the little white blob in the right hand lower corner of the tank isn't a paint drip: under a magnifying glass you can see it reads RA6. Thanks very much for that, Steve at Railtec.

Martyn
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: B757-236GT on June 04, 2020, 10:57:36 PM
Hi Guys.
A quick one this. Who made your carriage sheds? Are they scratch built or a kit as i'm sure Ive seen one before and it looks like exactly what i want but despite lots of googling i cant find them.
Thanks
Richard
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on June 05, 2020, 07:14:19 AM
Hi Richard

The carriage shed is made from four Heljan wagon repair shed kits, but these haven’t been available for a long time. I actually made the shed for my own fledgling layout about fifteen years ago, and then Steve took it on for James Street. Another modeller has made a replica using Redutex sheeting if that is of any help.

Dave
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: B757-236GT on June 06, 2020, 11:45:12 AM
Thanks for that. I can find the odd one outside the uk but there are about £40 including post so will need to see if anyone has any here they dont want or something similar.

Thanks
Richard
Title: Re: James St-exhibition layout
Post by: Southerngooner on June 06, 2020, 01:18:12 PM
Hi all

I've posted an update to the James Street website today which covers a range of things that have happened or are in progress on the layout since it's last outing at Doncaster in February.

The big news is that the layout is being extended. Yes, many of you will think it's quite big enough already but Steve is adding 14" down the length of the layout next to the storage yards and 22" to the end with the dockyard.  The aim is to have this functioning, if not fully detailed, by the layout's next outing. At the moment this is still planned to be Southend in November, but who knows with the ongoing virus problems.

There are also changes to other parts of the layout, including the roundhouse depot, the approaches to James Street, and the dock yard itself. Signals, yard lamps and street lighting are also under way, plus more stock of course.

The website has full details and photos of all of these changes so please take a look and let us know what you think! The website can be found here - https://dwanddrc.wixsite.com/james-street

Dave
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