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Title: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 23, 2014, 12:00:29 AM
Just thought you might like to see what I am up to at the moment, the works is quite busy...
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Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: scotsoft on September 23, 2014, 01:39:11 AM
You seems to be rather busy  :D

Where would we be without those plastic containers  :doh:  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: DesertHound on September 23, 2014, 01:11:05 PM
Hailstone

This body lark is starting to become infectious - what with you and Ozymandias at it! Looking good by the way.

Do you care to give us a brief description about your work, any priming, paints used, final touches etc etc? It's really starting to get interesting this and you guys are opening up a side of the hobby I wouldn't have gone near with a barge pole (let alone paint brush) just three months ago. Where did you get that plan in the background?

John - good old plastic boxes. Tend to get mine from the local Thai delivery, or the falafel place across the road does some handy ones when you order humous and a lentil salad (small round ones for screws etc.)

I'm presuming in Blighty they all come from the local Ruby take-away!

Dan
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: scotsoft on September 23, 2014, 02:34:40 PM

John - good old plastic boxes. Tend to get mine from the local Thai delivery, or the falafel place across the road does some handy ones when you order humous and a lentil salad (small round ones for screws etc.)

I'm presuming in Blighty they all come from the local Ruby take-away!

Dan

Other folks may get theirs from the local ruby take-away, but curry and me do not get on at all so it tends to be the £1 shop for me  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 24, 2014, 09:22:43 AM
The current status of work is:

Class 23 Baby Deltic - basic gloss paintwork complete, chassis being trimmed for a better fit.

Class 15 - awaiting gloss coat at one end (I didn't notice scratches in the nose until too late!!) chassis fitted

Class 41 - basic body cleaning and filling complete, awaiting first primer coat, class 47 chassis will fit but awaiting info on continental chassis.

66XX - bought on ebay, does not appear to be a Langley kit, awaiting new handrails.

1366 class pannier - bought as complete on ebay, but I did not like the way the parts had been fitted together, or the paint job and fortunately when I treated it with a bath of nitromors it came apart easily so I have now re fitted the parts and need to assemble them. it will also get new handrails.

for painting, I use Halfords grey primer - I have used this on metal and plastics with no problems whatsoever. as for top coat, I use precision paints, and have used a venerable basic badger airbrush for painting stock, but recently purchased a dual action airbrush which I intend to use for most things including weathering once I have gained some experience in using it, so for now, all of the green gloss paint has been applied using a precision paints aerosol which I used to paint one of my Graham Farish Halls, and was impressed with the finish I got, so have continued to use it.
Finally, the plan for the class 41 came with the kit, and the class 71 is an experiment only for now.

hope this helps

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: DesertHound on September 24, 2014, 05:35:50 PM
Alex

All understood - nice one. Who made the bodies (I know you mentioned one wasn't a Langley)?

Dan
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 24, 2014, 07:50:08 PM
Dan,

The class 15 is made by parkwood models and uses the old class 20 chassis

The Class 23 was bought from BH enterprises at Tings 2013

The class 41 is available from the N'porium on this website (other classes are also available)

I have no idea who made the 66xx body kit, but it is not a Langley one to the best of my knowledge, as the bunker has no shield for the upper lamp bracket, and the 1366 class pannier is possibly an ABS beaver kit no longer available (watch ebay - you never know what may turn up!)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on October 19, 2014, 08:48:32 PM
here is a progress report on a couple of my ongoing projects

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This will be D601 Ark Royal and is awaiting buffers and a little filling and sanding here and there before further painting. It is sitting on a class 47 chassis which since this post has been modified to take the different battery boxes carried by these locos.

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I haven't decided on the number for this one yet, but she is ready for the numbers and totems, and a coat of matt varnish.

more to follow later

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on October 19, 2014, 09:15:03 PM
Looking good Alex ! If you get an alternative chassis for that 41 Let me know as I am severly in need of a farish 47 for Lion.

Still hope to make that pint around about 16th November but will email you.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on October 22, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
Here's the latest progress

class 15 now completed
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class 23 in the paint stage
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class 41 buffers added, some filling done, correct battery boxes added and chassis blackened so that it is not visible through the windows.
has anyone got any ides on modifying the bogies?
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Regards,

Alex

Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on October 22, 2014, 08:47:03 PM
The class 15 looks smashing, Alex. Very well done :thumbsup:
Sorry, but is there no way the class 23 body can be lowered at all as it appears to be sitting very high?
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on October 22, 2014, 11:16:35 PM
The class 15 looks smashing, Alex. Very well done :thumbsup:
Sorry, but is there no way the class 23 body can be lowered at all as it appears to be sitting very high?
There is still quite a bit of trimming to be done on the chassis, plus fitting the right battery box/fuel tank and changing bogie frames and the class 41 has priority in the build list, so it will be a while before it gets done.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on November 01, 2014, 10:55:17 PM
Here's the latest progress from the works:

Class 23 now complete, but awaiting new bogie frames as it appears that class 20 bogies have become a very rare item, neither BR lines or peters spares have any, and Bob(BR lines) says that there are unlikely to be any more supplied, so it will have to run on the class 33 bogies for the time being.
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and here is a comparison with a lone star 23
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The Warship needs route discs, a coat of matt varnish and glazing. like the class 23 I do not have proper bogies for it, so I am looking for the moment to scratch build some new ones, unless someone out there has a spare set of EM2 bogies lying around that they don't want.
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hopefully I will complete the body by Monday.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 02, 2014, 10:34:32 AM
That's me giving up and off to go fishing !!!

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on November 02, 2014, 11:20:58 AM
Smashing work, Alex :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on November 02, 2014, 12:34:50 PM
Smashing work, Alex :thumbsup:

Don't encourage him Mick or are you hankering after that Baby Deltic ?  After all he is MEANT to be modelling the WR!!!   :laugh:

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on November 02, 2014, 05:06:14 PM
Smashing work, Alex :thumbsup:

Don't encourage him Mick or are you hankering after that Baby Deltic ?  After all he is MEANT to be modelling the WR!!!   :laugh:

Jerry

Absolutely nothing to stop a Baby Deltic travelling over to Oxford from Cambridge at the time, apart from their reliability, of course ;)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on November 02, 2014, 06:00:26 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys, no finer praise than that from your peers. as for modelling only Western Region, rule 1 applies - after I have finished the66xx & 1366, I have a Lizzie, an S & D 2-8-0 and a 53xx to build, I love this retirement lark!

Regards,

Alex

P.S. Jerry, are you still coming to England this month? the beer is waiting......
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on November 05, 2014, 11:24:38 PM
And finally, the last of the diesel trio on test

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I hope to start on the steam locos soon.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 06, 2014, 07:50:13 AM
Superb modelling. I'm really looking forward to seeing the 1366. I'd love one for myself; I remember MANY years ago when Peco announced they were going to release one in N Gauge . . . I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 28, 2015, 06:18:56 PM
I have spent the afternoon fitting some of my loco's with crews and putting real coal in the tenders (crushed from a lump from the bunker of one of the traction engines I work on) it really makes a difference to the looks of the Farish loco's in particular.

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I must add that the original coal loads in the Duchess tenders were a real sod to remove, and I ground a bit off them to make them easier to put back in after I had applied the coal and I recommend that you remove the ladder before attempting to do so, as one of them went into orbit whilst I was trying just to take the tender body off the chassis.



Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 28, 2015, 06:30:52 PM
Very nice work. Can we have some close-ups to see the crew in the cabs and the coal in the tenders, please?
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on July 25, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Greetings from sunny Montenegro - I am currently boiling in my own juice in an average temperature of 35C during the day and 27C at night.
I brought a liitle job for Trewoon's brewery out here with me and have finished just over half since the photo below was taken- it is a factory wall which came as a card/paper kit by model railway scenery from ebay.
Having built a couple of Prototype models kits before I was not too overwhelmed, but there was a lot to cut out, which used up time when it was simply too hot to be outside.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/20/thumb_27552.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27552)

I also found time to oil and test my loco stock that lives over here (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!) hopefully in the future a layout will take shape.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/20/thumb_27517.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27517)

the holiday will soon be over and I can hardly wait to try the new wall, and get my hands on a grange (or two!)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on July 25, 2015, 10:14:05 PM
Careful what you wish for, Alex, as pretty soon it will be 35 and 27 over here but Fahrenheit :worried:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on July 25, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
At least I won't wake up in a swimming pool every morning!

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on July 25, 2015, 10:19:56 PM
At least I won't wake up in a swimming pool every morning!

Regards,

Alex

You obviously don't drink as much coffee as I do :help:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 03, 2016, 11:20:10 PM
Here is my latest project under test on Tremierten, it is an L&Y pug I had just fitted a resistor to enable it to work on 12v DC (with grateful thanks to JRB who worked out the resistor value)

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Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: paulprice on April 04, 2016, 07:41:25 AM
looking good
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: jrb on April 04, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
Here is my latest project under test on Tremierten, it is an L&Y pug I had just fitted a resistor to enable it to work on 12v DC (with grateful thanks to JRB who worked out the resistor value)

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Regards,

Alex

 :thumbsup:

Alex,

Does the resistor get warm in use? Nigel Cliffe warned of that in another thread, I was going to do some testing tonight. I wouldn't have thought it'd get hot enough to damage anything, but best to double-check!
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 04, 2016, 07:17:20 PM
I hadn't noticed so far, but I sheathed it in heat shrink tubing to insulate the connections - I will also check to see if it does get warm.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 06, 2016, 10:30:56 PM
I have now run the pug for 5 minutes continuously on half power and the resistor did indeed get a little warm, but I could barely feel it on my finger, only by putting the resistor against my top lip did it become noticeable, so I think unless you are going to work it hard, there will be no heating problem.
For those who are also building this loco, it will definitely need all the weight you can pack in to it as I found that it ran a lot better with a large track rubber balanced on to of it! (a double o gauge association one) I intend to pack it with Lead or Tungsten, (I just have to find the Tungsten to make a comparison).
I now have the transfers thanks to an extremely fast service via the NGS online shop and will have to set to fettling And cleaning the body prior to painting - happy days!

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 15, 2016, 02:07:23 AM
I have finally got round to finishing a few projects that have been on my mind for ages, first of all the L&Y pug:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1193-150916013503.jpeg)

and thanks to info supplied by Karhedron I finally have a B set and an autocoach in BR crimson

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1193-150916013839.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1193-150916013958.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1193-150916014104.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1193-150916013719.jpeg)

last but not least, I have wanted a Britannia with western pattern smoke deflectors ever since Dapol started selling them and I bought a weathered example 70025 Western Star at TINGS as I just happened to have a set of nameplates and at £60 it seemed too good to miss, however when I got it home and tested it, it wouldn't move at all. a quick stripdown proved the problem to be that the left hand piston rod was glued to the cylinder! a little gentle twisting freed it and once the excess had been scraped off and the loco reassembled it ran ok albeit with a bit of a wobble which was cured by replacing the left hand traction tyre, the right hand one seeming to be ok.
running in then proceeded with no further problems, and the Peedie models etches were prepared and fitted. all that needs doing now is to weather the new smoke deflectors to match the rest of the loco, which I will do once I have had a bit of practice with the new airbrush I bought a couple of years ago!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/43/1193-150916014344.jpeg)

in the meantime I will have a little running session  :bounce:

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on September 15, 2016, 05:42:46 AM
They all look smashing, Alex, especially the little Pug! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on September 15, 2016, 11:39:15 AM
Great stuff, I love the pug but the Brit is really good. I can't believe how much of a difference to the look the WR deflectors make.  8)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 15, 2016, 02:55:29 PM
Great stuff, I love the pug but the Brit is really good. I can't believe how much of a difference to the look the WR deflectors make.  8)

they are surprisingly easy to fit too, my only worry now is that I will mess them up when I try to weather them to match the rest of the loco.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 12, 2017, 10:46:41 PM
As I have only seen Bob Tidbury's completed Trojan, I thought I might show the progress so far on the pair that I am building, one for me and one for Jerry Howlett.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/50/1193-120417223947.jpeg)

so far, I have primed and rubbed down 3 times, fitted the handrails and the sandboxes, just the whistles and lamp irons to go (works plates will be fitted after painting

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Rob H on April 15, 2017, 07:59:51 AM
Hi Alex,

Could you please tell me where you got the extra bits, handrails, sandboxes etc, from.

Regards,

Rob.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 15, 2017, 10:26:35 AM
Hi Alex,

Could you please tell me where you got the extra bits, handrails, sandboxes etc, from.

Regards,

Rob.

Bob, the sandboxes were made from plastic bar, the handrails, lamp Irons, toolboxes safety valves,
handrail knobs and whistles come from BH  enterprises and Nbrass locos - between them they have just about all the detailing parts you could ever need.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Rob H on April 15, 2017, 10:35:55 AM
Thanks for that Alex, are the parts specific to the Trojan ?

This is my first attempt to build a loco kit so I'm a bit out of my depth !!

Rob.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 15, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
No Bob, the handrails, handrail knobs and whistles are generic, the safety valves I chose for their look and size looking at a photo of the prototype (I could yet be wrong there!) the toolboxes and lamp irons are standard GWR fittings. I worked on Trojan when it was just a set of frames and wheels in the lifting shop at Didcot but haven't had a closer look since it was rebuilt. I will rectify this soon as Jerry Howlett and I will attend a reunion of past Didcot volunteers on the 29th of April and I intend to have a closer look and take more pictures and measurements to help me add the parts I have not yet added a bit more accurately.
in the meantime, have a look at this website:

 http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/48/Trojan.htm (http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/48/Trojan.htm)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 19, 2017, 07:27:16 PM
just as a change from the Tjojans, I decided to give a rebuilt Bullied a new identity given that Dapol's ones now appear to be well byond the horizon, and to renumber another Britannia as a western region engine.
So it is that "clan Line" has now become 34001 "Exeter"

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1193-190417191738.jpeg)

and 70038 Robin Hood is now 70024 "Vulcan" 

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/51/1193-190417191835.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on April 22, 2017, 04:22:40 PM
Too much time on your hands...   :D
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 13, 2017, 10:56:04 AM
Superb modelling. Are you also going to fit WR-pattern smoke deflectors on "Vulcan" like you did on 70025 "Western Star"? "Western Star" looks excellent with the WR type (without handrails and with handholds). "Exeter" looks very good, too.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 13, 2017, 01:36:53 PM
Superb modelling. Are you also going to fit WR-pattern smoke deflectors on "Vulcan" like you did on 70025 "Western Star"? "Western Star" looks excellent with the WR type (without handrails and with handholds). "Exeter" looks very good, too.
No Chris, I have depicted Vulcan as it appears in a photo I discovered on the web. I wanted one example of each BR crest in a WR guise

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 14, 2017, 10:13:34 AM
Ah, I understand, Alex. The changed smoke deflectors were a later fitting so your "Vulcan" is in original condition. The WR "Britannias" were very attractive locos. As they were common, for some years, on the Cornish mainline, until transferred away, they certainly look at home. Alas, they would be far too heavy to run between Bodmin Road, Wadebridge, and Penmayne [Padstow].
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on July 26, 2017, 07:22:39 PM
Some time ago I found that one of my 9F's a weathered one had suffered the breakage of the left hand main driving crank pin, which also anchors the coupling rods connecting rod, and return crank to the valve gear. at the time, no one had attempted a repair and no spares were available, so I sadly packed it away in its case and put it to one side for use as spares.
I have just come back from a lengthy holiday abroad (you can do such things when you are retired!) and was running in a pair of Bullied Pacifics acquired from ebay whilst I was away, and had one of those Light bulb moments whilst idly watching them going round the main lines.
the idea of replacing the crank pin had seemed impossible as it had sheared level with the driving wheel face, but I had tested a superglue called 608 which I had bought at one of the larger model railway shows and had been impressed when I used it to fix a pair of SWMBO's glasses where one of the arms had broken just behind the hinge, this repair lasted for a couple of months until she fell asleep on them!
so I thought it might be strong enough to stick the broken crankpin back on, but it was almost impossible to get all the pieces in position without getting the glue on everything, then I hit on the idea of drilling out the crankpin completely and using a Gem track pin which I had handy, so I drilled a 0.8 hole (the size of the original crankpin was 0.85mm) right through the driving wheel, and drilling through the return crank I then glued the track pin to the return crank with the head of the track pin against the outer face of the return crank having failed to make solder stick to either. I then cut the pin to length, applied some glue to the hole, assembled the parts and positioned the crankpin in the hole then fed in a little more glue to the back of the driving wheel and left it to set.
10 minutes later I have a fully functioning 9F - I don't know how long the repair will last, but it cost me nothing but a little time - watch this space.......

P.S, usual disclaimer, I am just a satisfied customer

Regards,

Alex

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on July 27, 2017, 01:22:06 PM
Go Alex,

I think I may bring a bag of bits with me in September, and invite you to a game of Locomotive jigsaw..   :laugh: :laugh:

Cheers Mate, Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on July 27, 2017, 03:18:54 PM
Go Alex,

I think I may bring a bag of bits with me in September, and invite you to a game of Locomotive jigsaw..   :laugh: :laugh:

Cheers Mate, Jerry

As long as you have all the bits to make one, I accept the challenge.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 23, 2017, 10:17:02 PM
Since I came back from holiday I had avoided working on the 2 models of Trojan that I started some time ago. well I have Had a surge of enthusiasm, and have now fitted them with injectors and clack valves and a toolbox on the fireman's side as per the actual loco, which goes some way to disguising the skirt between the saddle tank and running plate. I also fitted the smokebox doors with handles made from handrail knobs bored out to accept an 0.5mm rivet.
only the lamp irons remain to be fitted before painting, as the whistles and safety valves will be fitted afterwards.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1193-230817220608.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1193-230817220727.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 23, 2017, 10:25:49 PM
Looking very good already. I look forward to the updates.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 25, 2017, 01:29:35 PM
Stop mucking about on the forum @Hailstone (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193) and get on and finish the job.   :D  Even if I won't have anywhere to run mine for a few weeks, months   years....

Looking forward to seeing them in September.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 25, 2017, 01:44:06 PM
Stop mucking about on the forum @Hailstone ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193[/url]) and get on and finish the job.   :D  Even if I won't have anywhere to run mine for a few weeks, months   years....

Looking forward to seeing them in September.

Jerry


Yes Master :laughabovepost:

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Shiney Sheff on August 26, 2017, 10:43:11 AM
Some time ago I found that one of my 9F's a weathered one had suffered the breakage of the left hand main driving crank pin, which also anchors the coupling rods connecting rod, and return crank to the valve gear. at the time, no one had attempted a repair and no spares were available, so I sadly packed it away in its case and put it to one side for use as spares.
I have just come back from a lengthy holiday abroad (you can do such things when you are retired!) and was running in a pair of Bullied Pacifics acquired from ebay whilst I was away, and had one of those Light bulb moments whilst idly watching them going round the main lines.
the idea of replacing the crank pin had seemed impossible as it had sheared level with the driving wheel face, but I had tested a superglue called 608 which I had bought at one of the larger model railway shows and had been impressed when I used it to fix a pair of SWMBO's glasses where one of the arms had broken just behind the hinge, this repair lasted for a couple of months until she fell asleep on them!
so I thought it might be strong enough to stick the broken crankpin back on, but it was almost impossible to get all the pieces in position without getting the glue on everything, then I hit on the idea of drilling out the crankpin completely and using a Gem track pin which I had handy, so I drilled a 0.8 hole (the size of the original crankpin was 0.85mm) right through the driving wheel, and drilling through the return crank I then glued the track pin to the return crank with the head of the track pin against the outer face of the return crank having failed to make solder stick to either. I then cut the pin to length, applied some glue to the hole, assembled the parts and positioned the crankpin in the hole then fed in a little more glue to the back of the driving wheel and left it to set.
10 minutes later I have a fully functioning 9F - I don't know how long the repair will last, but it cost me nothing but a little time - watch this space.......

P.S, usual disclaimer, I am just a satisfied customer

Regards,

Alex

Alex

Have you seen these, never tried any but maybe it's a better option than gluing the bit together.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/YHDANXD75/minitrix-2-10-0-4-6-2-eccentric-rod-pegs-n-scale?optionId=56334896&li=marketplace (https://www.shapeways.com/product/YHDANXD75/minitrix-2-10-0-4-6-2-eccentric-rod-pegs-n-scale?optionId=56334896&li=marketplace)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 29, 2017, 04:57:40 PM
Latest pcture of the Trojans - Lamp Irons added, awaiting the paint shop

 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1193-290817165444.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on August 29, 2017, 06:50:34 PM
Those look excellent Alex! Best of luck with the painting and looking forward to seeing the finished locomotive on here soon!  :D
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: austinbob on August 29, 2017, 06:56:38 PM
Very nice indeed... You gonna keep those little beauties for yourself or give us meer mortals a chance to buy them off you???
Cracking work Alex.
 :)  :beers:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 29, 2017, 07:20:39 PM
Sorry guys, one is a commission for Jerry Howlett, and the other will appear on Tremierten

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: austinbob on August 29, 2017, 07:49:18 PM
Sorry guys, one is a commission for Jerry Howlett, and the other will appear on Tremierten

Regards,

Alex
You're gonna have to do a few more methinks.
Just think of your obligation to the ever hungry N gauge society.
Joking of course but if you ever try and sell one on fleebay then give us the nod on the forum.
Great work
 :D :beers:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 29, 2017, 08:10:12 PM
Really excellent work. I also look forward to seeing the final, painted versions.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 31, 2017, 05:47:49 PM
Really excellent work. I also look forward to seeing the final, painted versions.

quote author=Hailstone link=topic=23691.msg462184#msg462184 date=1504030839]
Sorry guys, one is a commission for Jerry Howlett, and the other will appear on Tremierten

Regards,

Alex
[/quote]

Commission ???   That smacks of payment!!!   How much beer am I going to have to pour down your neck to pay for all that work!!!!   :) :)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Shiney Sheff on August 31, 2017, 08:33:36 PM
Hi everyone, 

Is it possible to get one of these loco bodies, I have looked on Shapeways website but can't see them.

Bob
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 01, 2017, 09:51:18 AM
Shiney Sheff There was a lot of trouble over this kit it was a member who posted on here ages ago and some members still havnt received theirs yet so I doubt you will be able to get one .
My son actually had to write a very strongly worded letter to the guy warning him that a sollicitor would be writing to him if I didnt get my money or my kit .
Its a real shame as the guy is obviously a very good modeller and had lots of plans for future kits .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 01, 2017, 11:18:50 AM
I agree, Bob. A great pity as this is a very attractive little loco. that is a popular type.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Shiney Sheff on September 01, 2017, 07:22:54 PM
 :thankyousign:

I guess the original instigator of the loco owns the copyright then, so not much chance of anyone being able to produce any?

Bob
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 04, 2017, 11:06:53 PM
Here are photos of the latest progress, couplings to be added, plus a little more weight and crews, otherwise completed

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1193-040917225804.jpeg) 

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/1193-040917225902.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 05, 2017, 05:54:12 AM
Two beautiful little locos. Superb work.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Shiney Sheff on September 05, 2017, 08:23:16 AM
Fabulous little loco's.  :)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2017, 09:59:18 AM
AW. They're so cute, Alex. :heart2: :heart2:
Very nice work.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on September 06, 2017, 06:28:12 AM
  Great  job Alex! Proves your not wasting your retirement.   :jawdropping:

Looking forward to seeing the wee beastie...

Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bealman on September 06, 2017, 08:09:19 AM
Seconded!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 06, 2017, 11:36:52 PM
And finally.... both of the Trojans on test at Tremierten, they will handle a complete B set or at least 4 wagons - not bad considering their size

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1193-060917232423.jpeg)

now that they are finished next into the paint shop will be 6619, whose bodywork was cleaned up and handrails fitted in between working on the Trojans. front lamp irons have since been fitted, and it will appear in early crest black, but I doubt that I will finish it before Tings, I started this 3 years ago so there is no point in rushing it....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1193-060917232642.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 07, 2017, 05:16:37 AM
The "Trojan" twins look fantastic and their haulage capability is good, too, for their tiny size. The 0-6-2T looks like it will be anther excellent loco. but will be a long way from the Valleys! 8-)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on September 07, 2017, 09:50:37 AM
I've always thought the 56xx to be an attractive, well proportioned loco and wish it was available in RTR. Maybe a project for Colin Heard at UM?
Not sure if any were seen in Oxfordshire, though, so an 'excuse' would be needed. ;D
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: CarriageShed on September 07, 2017, 01:00:05 PM
UM only do tender locos...
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 13, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
And here she is - 6619 completed

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1193-130917223052.jpeg)

now to get started on 1370 while I am still in the mood

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on September 14, 2017, 08:05:27 AM
 :thumbsup: Very nice job Alex.  Anybody got clues to the origin of the model ?

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on September 14, 2017, 08:54:49 AM
And here she is - 6619 completed

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1193-130917223052.jpeg[/url])

now to get started on 1370 while I am still in the mood

Regards,

Alex


Great work Alex on 6619 and the Trojans too!
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 14, 2017, 09:41:16 AM
:thumbsup: Very nice job Alex.  Anybody got clues to the origin of the model ?

Jerry

It could be an ABS Beaver kit, but I am hoping that someone out there knows exactly what it is.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on September 14, 2017, 10:43:38 AM
And here she is - 6619 completed

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1193-130917223052.jpeg[/url])



Nice beaver That looks excellent, Alex :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on September 14, 2017, 11:23:14 AM
Nice beaver That looks excellent, Alex :thumbsup:

Not a good day when a moderator has to moderate themselves!!!  :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: trkilliman on September 14, 2017, 11:27:48 AM
That 66xx is a nice looking model, you have done a great job with it.

I am a little surprised that it hasn't been taken up as a rtr model, as I'm sure there would be a demand for it.

Model wise I've deemed myself cash tied with the two Kings ordered and under development with DJM. Now, if a 66xx were to come along I would have to dig deep, or like many of us bring out the plastic... lol
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on September 14, 2017, 11:31:39 AM
Nice beaver That looks excellent, Alex :thumbsup:

Not a good day when a moderator has to moderate themselves!!!  :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

I probably wouldn't have got away with it if Leslie Neilsen (one of my all time favourite actors) hadn't come out with it in 'Naked Gun' and the whole cinema blew their Kia-Ora all over the place.


I am a little surprised that it hasn't been taken up as a rtr model, as I'm sure there would be a demand for it.


As I posted earlier, surely this model is right up the street of Union Mills? How does one suggest this to Colin? Has he an e mail address?

Edit: Colin's contact details appeared in this months BRM article on Union Mills
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: CarriageShed on September 15, 2017, 12:55:05 PM

I am a little surprised that it hasn't been taken up as a rtr model, as I'm sure there would be a demand for it.


As I posted earlier, surely this model is right up the street of Union Mills? How does one suggest this to Colin? Has he an e mail address?

Edit: Colin's contact details appeared in this months BRM article on Union Mills

Union Mills have never - to my knowledge - produced a tank loco. All of Colin's locos are tender-driven.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jollybob on September 16, 2017, 12:30:16 PM
I've always thought the 56xx to be an attractive, well proportioned loco and wish it was available in RTR. Maybe a project for Colin Heard at UM?
Not sure if any were seen in Oxfordshire, though, so an 'excuse' would be needed. ;D

Yes they have been seen in Oxfordshire. I have a picture of one pulling a long mixed freight,  passing Steventon just west of Didcot.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on December 17, 2017, 11:16:59 PM
A long time ago, I aquired a whitemetal kit to convert a Peco Jubilee into a Hawksworth County, But looking at the Jubilee, the front of the running plate and cab would not look right, so I put it to one side and moved on to other things...
Some 8 or nine years later I puchased "the power of the Counties" and started to think about how I might achieve a more realistic looking county and hit on the idea of carving up the bodies of old Graham Farish 8F and Castle, this being not as daft an idea as I first thought, as the county boiler is only 9 inches longer than the 8F and used the same templates that Swindon had used to build 8f's for the war department during the second world war. the Castle cab and rear running plate would give me a more correct looking cab (they were bigger and wider than the Hall) and the splashers could be covered over to look more like the County.

so taking a step into the dark, I cut the cab off the 8F
 
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1193-171217212036-594021094.jpeg)

The next step was to cut away the boiler and front running plate of the Castle and rear running plate of the 8F,
which was achieved using a Dremel drill fitted with a cutting disk. this was a lengthy process that saw me get
through several disks and stops to let the bodies cool down.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1193-171217212111-594381400.jpeg)

After some thought, I decided to use the Peco jubilee chassis and tender drive, utilising the conversion kit
for the tender body and so far I am working on using a set of Farish Hall cylinders to replace the peco ones.
only time will tell whether this will work or not.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1193-171217213512.jpeg)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on December 18, 2017, 10:17:19 AM
Such 'butchery' deserves a good result, Alex. :goggleeyes:
Please keep us posted with progress.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: trkilliman on December 18, 2017, 10:25:02 AM
A very interesting project, I also look forward to seeing how things progress. Thank you for the post.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on December 18, 2017, 02:04:17 PM
Don't encourage him.

He will be making The Great Bear out of Minitrix dock tanks and a Lima 4F next.

Go Alex  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on December 30, 2017, 09:53:20 PM
Here is the latest progress on the County, the 2 major parts are almost together, but a lot of filing and grinding still to be done for a good fit, never mind removing handrails, dome and top feed and generally cleaning the boiler casting up

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/59/1193-301217214334.jpeg)

Happy new year everybody!!

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 02, 2018, 08:30:18 AM
So that's your other vice...

Boiler assembly is sitting a bit high, is that because you need to do more filing or just the camera angle ? 
I will phone you for the latest update.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on January 24, 2018, 10:27:39 PM
Not a great amount of progress made on the County at the moment, due to a slight mistake in the measurement department. I had finally managed to make the 8f boiler and Castle cab/running plate to fit together reasonably well, so I decided to try them on the Jubilee chassis - disaster! the body shell was too short by 2-3mm what had I done wrong? the answer came after I shrank the drawing from the Russell book of Great Western engines. the boiler/ smokebox was the right length and profile, but the firebox is 2-3 mm too short and the front splashers are too far forward, so more filing and grinding will be necessary to get the correct look and to think on how best to construct new splashers, but at least the cab is the correct size.
the front of the footplate was also a little too long so I cut the front buffer beam off and am filing it back until it matches the drawing. even though all this will take some time, I am reasonably confident now that it will turn out reasonably well, look better than the only available kit and is unlikely to suffer the fate that my upgraded Farish Halls and my 28xx suffered, that is, as soon as I completed them Dapol announced a ready to run one!
the moral to this tale is: get the drawing out first!!

Ah well back to the filing!

Alex

Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on January 25, 2018, 02:44:18 PM
Go Alex, it would probably have looked fine after a few pints.   :D :D

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: trkilliman on January 25, 2018, 04:25:29 PM
Go Alex, it would probably have looked fine after a few pints.   :D :D

Jerry

All things considered, maybe assess progress after a few pints of Ruddles COUNTY would be the best bet.

Joking aside, I love to see people creating something from this and that...modelling in my opinion.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: javlinfaw7 on January 25, 2018, 06:52:47 PM
Ruddles hasn't been the same since it moved from Rutland
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 05, 2018, 12:18:10 AM
Having been stung into action by Jerry Howlett's accusations of heading for the dark side (Triang TT) , I got out the round-to-it box and after 4 years 1370 finally emerges from the works on its way to the paint shop.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1193-050518000049.jpeg)

And long awaited replacement lower quadrant signals to control the up line into Trewoon reach primer stage.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/1193-050518000413.jpeg)

Time to start another kit I think!

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 14, 2018, 02:44:16 AM
And the next kit is.. an ex GW 53xx, 5322 to be exact. I have had the kit for some time, but had stalled a bit after building the Trojans and 6619, but having finished construction of 1370 I decided to start another while I was still enthusiastic about building!
this is my first attempt at soldering white metal and having got several pieces stuck together, I decided that the firebox was sitting at too much an angle, so I put it aside while I finished the junction signal as a means of light relief

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1193-140518020508.jpeg)

having got that out of the way, I bit the bullet, and took the 53xx to bits again, and cleaned up and re-soldered the body assembly back together, and it looked a bit better

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1193-140518021025.jpeg)

I was then away for a couple of days, and when I returned today, I started to fit the chassis to the body, the modification to the Prarie chassis is quite easy, I took it completeley apart before sawing off 2mm from the back and cutting a new slot to engage in the body. I then reassembled the chassis and tweaked it until I was satisfied with the way it ran. the next job was to try the body on and note where it was tight on the chassis, then remove the body and carefully carve away metal from the inside of the body to enable the chassis to fit.
once this was done, I tried running the loco, but nothing happened! a swift post mortem discovered that additional clearance was required so that the driving wheels did not short out on the body, once this had been done, a trial run up and down the fiddle yard proved to be a success.

 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/65/1193-140518021255.jpeg)

the next step will be to fit the rest of the body parts and drill for the handrails.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on May 14, 2018, 10:29:03 AM
That's quite a gap over the centre splasher, Alex :hmmm:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 14, 2018, 12:17:20 PM
That's quite a gap over the centre splasher, Alex :hmmm:


Yes Mick, it is a feature of the P & D Marsh G W loco body kits as they all have to accomodate the Graham farish chassis. I did not take away very much from the boiler casting at all, but it wil look different once I have blackened the worm and painted the loco. at present the unpainted body is a bit stark against the black chassis. if you look at at the picture below of the 28xx that I built, you will see that there is ann even bigger bit of boiler missing and you can even see the armature and the pole piece of the motor showing, but again that is how the kit was designed.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/main_9294.jpg)

hopefully, once I have finished and painted 5322 she will look as good as that.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on July 26, 2018, 12:25:02 PM
And finally.... both of the Trojans on test at Tremierten, they will handle a complete B set or at least 4 wagons - not bad considering their size

([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/55/1193-060917232423.jpeg[/url])




 :bump:
Congrats to Alex for his Trojans being featured in the NGS Journal 4/18 :claphappy:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 26, 2018, 04:56:14 PM
I have seen the actual model that Alex built and painted and it really doesnít look like a 3D printed body itís brilliant ,the photo canít do them full justice and they put my effort to shame .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on July 27, 2018, 08:42:40 AM
I have entered my Trojan in the annual model making competition on Saturday so that anyone going there will be able to see it, along with the 56xx shown earlier in this thread.

Regards,

Alex

Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on July 27, 2018, 09:06:42 AM
You should have entered your Pug as well Alex .again if you see it you would never believe it was 3D printed .
Both of the models are absolutely fantastic ,mine are no where near the quality
but Iím proud of mine no matter how poor they are in comparison ,they are my own work.
I never have and never will achieve the standard that Alex achieves.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on July 31, 2018, 08:55:08 PM
Back from the N Gauge Society AGM with 2 Bronze certificates, 1 for 6619 and 1 for Trojan. I started to prime 1370 but need to apply a few more things like lamp irons and the fire iron holders, so I set it aside for a moment, and rather than go back to 5322, I had a mad moment and started work on a body and chassis for No5 John Hampden, a metropolitan electric loco.
A real rule 1 choice this, but I have always wanted one since I saw another NGS members one at a previous Annual model making competition.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/1193-310718204008.jpeg)

The body has been trimmed and the chassis modified, it now needs handrails to be made and buffers fitted and for me to work out how to provide enough bogie clearance so that it can go round 12" radius curves.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Caz on August 01, 2018, 06:59:40 PM
Well done Alex and I love the mini anvil.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 02, 2018, 12:00:35 AM
It comes in very handy along with an equally mini hammer to flatten lead and brass strip

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 03, 2018, 12:20:39 PM
And the works latest product is 1370 in early BR guise

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/1193-030818121319.jpeg)

although a little large, I am pleased with the fire iron carriers on the back of the bunker, these were bent up from some scrap fret metal left over from building an N brass Bullied bogie.

I have decided not to replace the handrails on Met No5 as I may damage other details on the bodywork removing the moulded ones so on to fit buffers and brake pipes - pictures to follow.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Train Waiting on August 03, 2018, 12:27:26 PM
Very nice; very nice indeed!
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 03, 2018, 01:04:25 PM
@Hailstone (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193)

You just have TOO MUCH  time on your hands..   Oh and too b***dy many locos for your layout!
A great Job on that one Alex.

Jerry

Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 03, 2018, 01:16:35 PM
I think we are all like that Jerry . I have more than enough locos to last me till I pop my clogs ,BUT I still want twice as many ,though I have got to the stage where if there is one loco that I want I have to sell two to finance it .
The state pension wonít extend to any extras only the bare necesseties of life ,
like food ,heat and that kind of things , I think it would be a good idea to have a government hobby allowance. And thatís what I would bring out if I was chancellor  or prime minister ,it would be cost effective really because if us old fogies were happy we wouldnít be in and out of the doctors  so much.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 03, 2018, 11:39:54 PM
@Hailstone ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193[/url])

You just have TOO MUCH  time on your hands..   Oh and too b***dy many locos for your layout!
A great Job on that one Alex.

Jerry




you are retired too Jerry, just spend a little less time drinking vino while sunbathing!!

P.s. get on with my Siphons  :P

All the best,

Alex


Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 04, 2018, 03:51:40 PM
@Hailstone ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193[/url])

You just have TOO MUCH  time on your hands..   Oh and too b***dy many locos for your layout!
A great Job on that one Alex.

Jerry




you are retired too Jerry, just spend a little less time drinking vino while sunbathing!!

P.s. get on with my Siphons  :P

All the best,

Alex





Damn "The Siphons" I forgot , I thought I had until December to sort them out....

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on August 04, 2018, 06:05:36 PM
I'm sure I heard Alex to say "Don't bother coming to TINGS without them" >:D ;)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 04, 2018, 07:44:48 PM
I'm sure I heard Alex to say "Don't bother coming to TINGS without them" >:D ;)

He is meeting me off the Gatwick arrival at Victoria...  OK the Wetherspoons Pub around the corner to make sure that I have the "Goods".  Well Non Passenger Coaching Stock to be precise..  Otherwise my lift to TINGS will be in jeapordy.

Hic hic  :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: lil chris on August 04, 2018, 11:02:51 PM
Very nice models, missed these in ngs, I forgot to renew my membership, must attend to that soon.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 07, 2018, 03:46:29 PM
In order to get something done during the day I have brought a temporary workbench out of the loft, and here it is with some of the work done over the last 3 days.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/1193-070818154030.jpeg)

I have a lot more wagons to build, so while the weather is as hot as it is at the moment i will work in the living room, it is marginally cooler here.

Regards

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 13, 2018, 12:44:00 AM
I took MET No5 to my club running day on Saturday (NGS Berkshire group) and here it is running through a Met style station built by Richard (Kettle) of this forum

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1193-130818003855.jpeg)

there is still some work to be done, like transfers and nameplates, but it is otherwise complete

Regards

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on August 13, 2018, 09:13:42 AM
Thatís looking good Alex itís a shame I couldnít come to the running day but if I had I donít think I would have been allowed home ,  still  we had a good B B Q and the rain held off untill the end of the day . And Alfie had a nice birthday party .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 21, 2018, 12:21:06 AM
While temperatures in the loft were doing a good impression of an oven, in order to get something done I moved a portable workbench onto the dining table. today I moved back to the loft, but before doing so I took a final picture of the "Dining room wagon works"

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1193-200818170420.jpeg)

In the time I was working there I have built 2 Palvan/Medfit kits (awaiting a roof for one of them) 3 Micas for which I an awaiting Chassis, 1 Tube wagon, 2 SR sleeper wagons, 3 Insixfish wagons and a Cordon gas wagon. all are awaiting application or sourcing of transfers. I also started work on 2 Peedie models LSWR water columns and finally built the load for my Weltrol

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on August 21, 2018, 09:32:38 AM
That should shut Jerry up, as he's always saying you don't do anything ;D
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 23, 2018, 03:05:58 PM
That should shut Jerry up, as he's always saying you don't do anything ;

I've been too busy coping with visitors to respond to this derogatory post.   :D :D

However it has reminded me that I MUST finish the Siphon G conversions for Alex before next week.
Only had them since May..... :worried: :worried:

Nice work Alex.

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 30, 2018, 12:27:46 AM
I have now put the transfers on the body of Met No5 and added the current collecting bars to the bogies. all that remains is the nameplates, which have been ordered from Narrow Planet and hopefully should arrive in a few weeks.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1193-300818000726.jpeg)

I have also completed the INSIXFISH vans

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1193-300818001042.jpeg)

the Palvans and Medfits need transfers, so I must work out which sheet I need, having done the 2 pipe wagons with transfers that I already had.

I then decide to try and finish the Kits in my round to it box so next was the GWR Monster van

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1193-300818001302.jpeg)

and whilst the primer was drying on that,I made a start on the Pigeon van kit by @Atso (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=213) (pictures to follow) it is one of the original resin kits which I bought when it first came out.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 30, 2018, 01:59:58 PM
With a bit of advice from @Atso (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=213) the Pigeon van chassis ready to go into the ultrasonic cleaner, the body is already in primer

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1193-300818135642.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: RailGooner on August 30, 2018, 02:07:22 PM
 :wonderfulmodelling:

I especially like the INSIXFISH vans. :thumbsup:

But I'm fixated by the little anvil, it's so cute and the ideal size. Can I ask where you got it Alex?
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 30, 2018, 02:17:10 PM
I bought it at a model railway show some time ago, either TINGS or Ally Pally I think from one of the larger tool stalls. it comes in very handy for a lot of jobs, sometimes with a tiny hammer for flattening bent etched parts.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 31, 2018, 12:56:24 AM
Once I had built the Chassis, the body of the pigeon van was easy to work on and required very little in the way of cleaning, so it was on to the paint shop, following the Monster

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1193-310818004605.jpeg)

and by the end of the day all that remains is to apply glazing to the Pigeon van, and transfers to be sourced for both

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1193-310818004738.jpeg)

All in all, a pretty good day in the works.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jerry Howlett on August 31, 2018, 02:09:06 PM
You'll do anything to make me feel guilty, at my lack of progress....

Jerry
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on August 31, 2018, 05:47:21 PM
You'll do anything to make me feel guilty, at my lack of progress....

Jerry
Not to worry jerry, I can buy you a beer and give you a motivational kick up the behind next week, I'm sure they will both work wonders!

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on August 31, 2018, 06:20:07 PM
Lovely models there Alex!
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2018, 09:42:55 AM
Somehow, I missed the recent updates, Alex, after "TROJAN". Where did the kit for your lovely 0-6-0PT 1370 come from, please? I've long wanted a Wadebridge allocated one.

Which kit did you use for the INSIXFISH vans, please? Are they GWR vehicles?

The 'Pigeon Van' is on my list as I've seen a photo. of one in the West Country; the 'Monster' looks very nice, too, although less easy to justify.

I look forward to the update on the 'Siphon G' models, as I have a lot of these to update. (There was a very informative article in the latest NGS magazine but I don't think it is the final say on the topic?)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on October 01, 2018, 12:00:58 PM
Somehow, I missed the recent updates, Alex, after "TROJAN". Where did the kit for your lovely 0-6-0PT 1370 come from, please? I've long wanted a Wadebridge allocated one.

Which kit did you use for the INSIXFISH vans, please? Are they GWR vehicles?

The 'Pigeon Van' is on my list as I've seen a photo. of one in the West Country; the 'Monster' looks very nice, too, although less easy to justify.

I look forward to the update on the 'Siphon G' models, as I have a lot of these to update. (There was a very informative article in the latest NGS magazine but I don't think it is the final say on the topic?)

the 1366 class pannier was an ABS Beaver kit I believe, and I have 2 of them bought complete from ebay, one in great western green which was beautifully finished so I have kept it as it is to run on Tremierten, and the other which looked like it had been badly put together and painted with a yard broom! the body was place in a bath of nitromors and promptly fell apart into its constituent components, so I basically treated it as a new kit and must say that I am happy with the result. I just wish I could find a decent chassis for it, but I am no chassis builder (yet).

The Insixfish vans were built about 1948 for the GWR I have the info but I am on holiday in Cornwall until Wednesday, I will post the info here next week. The kits were from County rolling stock and had been in my round to it box for some time. I don't think they are available now, but Richard who ran County rolling stock gave a lot of his designs to Peedie models, so one can hope that we will see them again. I would personally like another 3 of them.

The Pigeon van is one of Atso's original resin body kits and was a pleasure to build (I should have done it ages ago!) and the Monster was originally bought to be a tool van for the breakdown crane I was going to build, but has been put in revenue earning service and is a relatively easy conversion once you get over cutting a siphon H body about.

And as for emptying the round to it box, that simply didn't happen because I bought some more at TINGS!

Ah well, back to the beer - toodle pip!

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: trkilliman on October 01, 2018, 12:29:20 PM
The advertising blurb was that Double Diamond worked wonders, but you'd be hard pressed to buy him a pint of that these days...lol  (the unpasteurised real ale version was Burton ale, a lovely pint but even that's gone)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2018, 12:38:21 PM
Many thanks, Alex, for your quick and detailed reply. Enjoy your holiday. You were very lucky t get those two 1366 class pannier tank models. Could they be 3D printed and mounted on a suitable (Japanese?) 0-6-0 chassis? I guess there would be no room for a DCC chip, though.

Let's hope, then, that Peedie Models bring out the INSIXFISH van kits.

Are those two ATSO kits still available or have they been replaced by 3D printed ones? I think that there is a 3D printed LNER pigeon van?

I look forward t seeing your next projects develop over the Winter.

Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on October 01, 2018, 12:49:01 PM

Are those two ATSO kits still available or have they been replaced by 3D printed ones? I think that there is a 3D printed LNER pigeon van?


Hi Chris, I only did the pigeon van which is now available in 3D printed format. I may revisit this as a resin kit in the future but no promises as to when. The Monster is nothing to do with me I'm afraid (lovely looking kit though!).
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on October 01, 2018, 04:32:27 PM
Sorry Chris, I forgot ot say that the Monster kit is from Osborn's models

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2018, 07:46:44 PM

Are those two ATSO kits still available or have they been replaced by 3D printed ones? I think that there is a 3D printed LNER pigeon van?


Hi Chris, I only did the pigeon van which is now available in 3D printed format. I may revisit this as a resin kit in the future but no promises as to when. The Monster is nothing to do with me I'm afraid (lovely looking kit though!).

Thanks for the quick response, re: the Pigeon Van and the 'Monster' (I had thought it was an Osborn's models kit to go on a Dapol Siphon chassis?).

I will definitely be ordering at least one 3D-printed Pigeon van but I can only spraypaint in the Summer holidays so it may be a while before I order. Then there's the problem of suitable BR WR transfers?
.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 08, 2019, 12:25:00 AM
After a considerable gap due in part to injury, I have made some progress with the 2 Co-Bo's that I started back in January, all that remains to be done now is to fit head code discs, transfers and glazing.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/81/1193-080919001157.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 08, 2019, 12:22:36 PM
Very nice work, Alex. Very sorry to read about your injury. I hope that all will be well, very soon.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on September 09, 2019, 05:11:46 PM
Lovely work there Alex!  8)

Hope you're fully recovered soon.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on September 09, 2019, 11:39:12 PM
Many thanks Chris and Steve, I have been fully recovered since July, but it was 3 months before I could get in the loft to do anything useful which means that the CO BO's the 53xx and other projects ground to a halt for most of that time.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on September 10, 2019, 09:03:17 AM
Hi Alex looking forward to meeting you Jerry and Chris at T I N G S.
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 10, 2019, 09:29:44 AM
Likewise bob
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on February 07, 2020, 01:23:25 PM
And finally... here they are complete

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/1193-070220131458.jpeg)

one of these is for @Jerry Howlett (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=276) the other I will keep.

@Chuffington (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6746)  , I am sorry that I could not remember which type of print I asked for, but I think that the quality of prints will have improved by now. also I seem to have a track record of building a loco, only to see it produced as an RTR model a couple of years later. Ah well I did enjoy making them

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: crewearpley40 on February 07, 2020, 01:31:46 PM
Is that a pair of metro vicks on the Condor  ?
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on February 07, 2020, 02:01:26 PM
No headboards available and fox only make it in 4mm scale - I am not about to pay a fortune to commission one

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 07, 2020, 02:20:04 PM
No headboards available and fox only make it in 4mm scale - I am not about to pay a fortune to commission one

Regards,

Alex

Very nice models indeed.

You could buy a 4mm one then reduce it to 2mm using a colour photocopier?
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on February 07, 2020, 03:38:14 PM
Very nice, too, Alex :drool:

I seem to have a track record of building a loco, only to see it produced as an RTR model a couple of years later.

For those of us less talented sadly I have to say 'I hope so'

Could you use this and rescale it onto label paper to make your own headboard up?
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/87/264-070220153356-871981023.png)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Paddy on February 07, 2020, 04:24:38 PM
Exactly what I was going to say @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264).  This looks like a relatively simple headboard that could be printed on an InkJet and cut out.

Paddy
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on March 22, 2020, 09:59:42 PM
Having completed the CO BO's, I have returned to the 53XX that I started some time ago and have now reached the stage where only a few details need to be added before she is ready for the paint shop. I have not yet decided as to which livery she will have, either BR lined green late crest, or black with the early emblem.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/89/1193-220320215228.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Jollybob on March 22, 2020, 10:23:35 PM
Green, it's got to be green.  :D

Rob.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on March 22, 2020, 10:25:15 PM
That's looking rather nice. A second vote for lined green here.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Train Waiting on March 23, 2020, 08:39:11 AM
That 'Mogul' looks absolutely excellent, Alex.

Both liveries will suit her perfectly.  I think the black is attractive if clean and with the large version of the emblem.  In my view, the small version of the early emblem tends to look awfully 'lost' unless on little tank engines.

However, if I have to remove myself from the fence; I'd go for the lined green as it was such a BR(W) speciality.

I look forward to seeing her painted, whatever the livery.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 03, 2020, 11:53:47 PM
Thanks to those who offered an opinion on the livery for the 53XX. just as soon as it gets a little warmer, she will get lined out green.
Although my loco building mojo is not at it's best, I have started in earnest on the next build, a loco I have long wanted - the S&D 7F (no problems of livery for this one, Henry Ford's rule applies!)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/1193-030420233305.jpeg)


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/1193-030420233521.jpeg)

As with the 53XX, construction will be with low melt solder with some smaller details using glue. some of the castings are very rough and I think that the moulds have had their day, but I will persevere with it unless Bachmann turn the shrink ray on their model - watch this space!!

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Newportnobby on April 04, 2020, 05:28:59 AM
I will persevere with it unless Bachmann turn the shrink ray on their model - watch this space!!


Which they will about 3 months after you complete yours, Alex ::)
Mind you - it would then take at least 3 years to come to fruition.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 10, 2020, 12:52:01 AM
Here is the latest progress on the S & D 7F, I must say I will be glad when I finish this one, it has been a bit of a trial from the start, with the cab spectacle plate disappearing into the loft floor and so far I have been unable to locate it and may have to fabricate a replacement  :headbutt:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/1193-100420004416.jpeg)

here's hoping that things improve

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 11, 2020, 12:50:28 AM
Well, after yesterdays difficulties I had a look for the missing spectacle plate for the 7F but without success, so I bit the bullet and made a new one from plasticard and glued it in place along with sandboxes and (put on after this photo was taken) mechanical lubricators. I am now waiting for a vacuum ejector from Nbrass locos to finish the build along with some handrails.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/1193-110420002857.jpeg)

I then decided to start another kit, and so chose the USA tank I bought from BH enterprises some time ago. I found that it was a much better made kit of parts and also quite simple so it did not take a great amount of time to assemble. there is still a bit of work to be done yet, but I am a much happier modeller today. here is a picture of the locos built so far

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/1193-110420003142.jpeg)

I hope that everyone out there is in good health and enjoying the extra railway time

All the best,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Dr Al on April 11, 2020, 01:06:29 AM
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/1193-100420004416.jpeg)

Coming together nicely.

One constructive comment - none of the kit Fowler tenders out there (BHE, and all kits) sit at the correct ride height in my experiences of them - they are all too low. If possible, it's worth raising this by inserting packing pieces between the chassis block and the body. The buffer height is a good guide - you can see here it's low compared to the wagon.

HTH,
Alan
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 11, 2020, 01:14:46 AM
Thanks Alan, I will have another look at that, I must admit I didn't look to closely as the tender went together far easier than the loco cab did and I was just relieved to complete it! by the way, most of the tender components were much cleaner and not distorted like the loco, the running plate being a nightmare in itself, being distorted in all 3 axes, I am amazed that the parts actually joined at all.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: exmouthcraig on April 11, 2020, 06:35:55 AM
 :claphappy: looking fantastic Alex!!!!!

Theres something very nice about a bare metal loco kit with brass extras fitted!!!!

And that USA kit  :heart2: me thinks I might need to research that model!!!! I'm guessing she runs on a marklin chassis???  Question is how much detail is on the smokebox door???? As that's tell tale it's a USA.

I hope you do a detailed build thread on that as well??!!
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Garyf on April 11, 2020, 08:37:13 AM


One constructive comment - none of the kit Fowler tenders out there (BHE, and all kits) sit at the correct ride height
Alan

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/6824-110420083332.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=90736)
Hereís the 7F at North Norfolk Railway, it looks as though the kit sides are too deep, nicely done model that Iím looking forward to seeing completed.

Gary
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Train Waiting on April 11, 2020, 09:08:19 AM
These three locomotives look wonderful, Alex.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: thebrighton on April 11, 2020, 10:11:47 AM
And that USA kit  :heart2: me thinks I might need to research that model!!!! I'm guessing she runs on a marklin chassis???  Question is how much detail is on the smokebox door???? As that's tell tale it's a USA.

I built mine many years ago but the kit was originally a Chivers offering and was designed to run on a Roco chassis. Just had a look at mine and I added the handrail ring and lamp irons to the smokebox door.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/943-300318171532.jpeg)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: exmouthcraig on April 11, 2020, 10:27:20 AM
@thebrighton (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=943) I googled N gauge USA tank and it might come as no surprise to you that yours in the first one too appear so I re-read the thread on the forum.

And it also comes as no surprise that yours is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, mine would be shabby dirty black IF I could ever get one but top quality sir, your loco fleet must look absolutely stunning  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on April 11, 2020, 11:36:04 AM
Exmouthcraig
B H E Have now got the rights to the U S A tank and it is readily available ,if out of stock Ray can get more made quite quickly .Im sorry but I cant remember the price of the kit ,and I believe the chassis it was designed for is a bit harder to get . Email Ray on bhengauge@googlemail.com or ring him on 01923 672809
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 11, 2020, 12:49:17 PM
:claphappy: looking fantastic Alex!!!!!

Theres something very nice about a bare metal loco kit with brass extras fitted!!!!

And that USA kit  :heart2: me thinks I might need to research that model!!!! I'm guessing she runs on a marklin chassis???  Question is how much detail is on the smokebox door???? As that's tell tale it's a USA.

I hope you do a detailed build thread on that as well??!!

the kit is from TTK models, available from BH enterprises as stated by @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) and is a very clean kit with few parts and easy to assemble even by a ham fisted modeller like me. the chassis it is designed for is the Roco Br80 (cat no 02100 A) which is very nice, but not always easy to get hold of, I was lucky and found one on ebay, although there are several now on ebay albeit from overseas sellers so the postage may add quite a bit to the price. be also aware that the instructions that come with the kit recommend that you do not start the assembly until you have the chassis.

the next kit to be built will be a peco Adams B4 tank which has also been in the round to it box for some time. please note that before I start a kit, I source a chassis, as with the USA tank and the 7F, the instructions often recommend it.

Regards,

Alex 
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Roy L S on April 11, 2020, 01:19:20 PM
And that USA kit  :heart2: me thinks I might need to research that model!!!! I'm guessing she runs on a marklin chassis???  Question is how much detail is on the smokebox door???? As that's tell tale it's a USA.

I built mine many years ago but the kit was originally a Chivers offering and was designed to run on a Roco chassis. Just had a look at mine and I added the handrail ring and lamp irons to the smokebox door.
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/63/943-300318171532.jpeg)

Gareth

That is an absolute beauty (but it comes as no surprise!).

Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 14, 2020, 12:39:21 AM
having had the weekend off doing thigs that SWMBO wanted done, I started work again on the USA tank cleaning up the body and also started work on the B4 tank which went together reasonably well, the parts being quite clean and with no apparent distortion only some annoying mould lines that still need a clean up.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/90/1193-140420002911.jpeg)

Although the Arnold chassis seems to fit quite well there appears to be a short of some sort when I push the leading buffer beam home that last millimetre, so I will have a look at it tomorrow as I decided that at midnight it was time to descend from the loft! maybe someone has already built one of these and has the answer - I can only hope. I decided not to replace the cast handrails with brass ones as it looked to me like they might stand out too much (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Dr Al on April 14, 2020, 01:21:24 AM
I built one of these recently. Check the two wipers that take power to the motor - they may be misplaced or just shorting on the right angle join between the boiler and the cab frontplate. I don't recall having any significant trouble though - so it's likely a minor adjustment.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49353537387_baa233ec53_h.jpg)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bealman on April 14, 2020, 01:43:11 AM
They're all great models!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 14, 2020, 07:10:53 PM
I built one of these recently. Check the two wipers that take power to the motor - they may be misplaced or just shorting on the right angle join between the boiler and the cab frontplate. I don't recall having any significant trouble though - so it's likely a minor adjustment.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49353537387_baa233ec53_h.jpg)

Cheers,
Alan

Thanks Alan, I will give it a try, It has to be something simple as the chassis runs with a 1mm gap between the buffer beam and the running plate on the body. having looked at your example I may rethink my decision on the handrails!

All the best,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 15, 2020, 12:39:22 AM
Well I tried isulating the entire inside of the body but the B4 stubbornly refused to work, so in desperation I put a .25mm plastic shim between the running plate and the chassis buffer beam at the front, and would you believe it? it worked perfectly! I have no idea why, but I will leave it as long as it works. having fixed that problem, I then painted the chassis black and spent an hour or so shaving off the moulded on boiler handrails and replacing them with brass ones having seen the perfect example built by @Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263) . I still have to do the handrails on the side tanks and the ones on the USA tank but that was enough for one evening. progress! - of a sort

Regards,

Alex 
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on April 26, 2020, 01:36:17 AM
not a lot of activity this week due to house maintenance work with SWMBO, but today I managed to get a little work done.
on the 7F, I have completed the handrails which on the real loco are quite complex, on the drivers side the handrail is actually the Vacuum pipe as far as the ejector, then is standard sized with a similar arrangement on the fireman's side minus the ejector. I found a suitable piece of brass rod and after several attempts managed to solder it to the ejector then using low melt solder soldered the assembly to the boiler. the standard sized piece of handrail was then lined up with a single handrail knob fixed to the smokebox with superglue and then soldered to the ejector, the other end then being cut to size. the firemans side treated similarly soldering standard handrail to the same size brass rod and held at the smokebox end by 2 handrail knobs. the tender handrails we also replaced in brass

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/1193-260420010810.jpeg)

the B4 tank also had the handrails at the front of the tanks replaced in brass to complement the one I had placed on the boiler.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/91/1193-260420011210.jpeg)

these two along with the 53XX are ready for a coat of primer. I will see how their front running plates look before I add the lamp irons. Finally the USA tank has had the holes drilled in the smokebox for the handrails which I hope to complete tomorrow.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 06, 2020, 01:15:04 AM
Whilst waiting for a opportunity to get the loco's into their first coat of primer, I decided to do something different, so having watched @Stevie DC (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=213) building brass etched wagons, I took my first steps in etched wagon construction with a kit I got from ebay some years ago but was a little hesitant to start. it is a GWR S&T wagon by Kestrel, and is my first real etched brass kit

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/1193-060520004500.jpeg)

I cut out and dressed the first few parts and bent the floor/inner sides to shape, so far so good

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/1193-060520004650.jpeg)

then using solder paste, soldered the outer sides to the inner sides and it seemed to go ok so I reamed out the holes for the bearings and managed to solder them to the frames temporarily losing one to the floor, a real moment of panic, but the gods seemed to be with me and I recovered it and soldered it in as well.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/1193-060520004155-92648627.jpeg)

The next step was to solder the frames to the floor, and add the buffer beams.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/1193-060520004305-92650934.jpeg)

however, I was not satisfied with the placement of one of them so it will have to come off again, so I decided to call it a day and will have another go later. having got this far I am in awe of Steve's creations and hope that I will improve (with a lot of practice!!)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Dr Al on May 06, 2020, 11:23:34 AM
That's something very unique - Kestrel brass? Never seen these before!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: thebrighton on May 06, 2020, 01:34:14 PM
About to say the same. Never heard of Kestrel Brass and not found anything searching Google other than a similar thread on RMWeb where someone had come across a Kestrel LMS ballast hopper. Seems they were shot down from 4mm Falcon Brass kits.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Dancess on May 06, 2020, 01:38:11 PM
Good to see another 7F, here's picture of mine


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/491-060520133041.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92703)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/491-060520133224.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92705)

This was bought by me and has Mike Bryant wheels, split chassis tender and modified valve gear, unfortunately since I moved it doesn't run  :'( and I'm too old to try and fix it. Also have another kit and donor loco but too scared to try and build it.

Look forward to seeing yours completed.  :)
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on May 06, 2020, 10:32:32 PM
Well done on that wagon Alex. You should've seen some of my earlier efforts at soldering.

Like Alan and Gareth, I've not come across Kestrel Brass before interesting to see that there may be other kits to look out for on the second hand market.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 06, 2020, 10:59:10 PM
About to say the same. Never heard of Kestrel Brass and not found anything searching Google other than a similar thread on RMWeb where someone had come across a Kestrel LMS ballast hopper. Seems they were shot down from 4mm Falcon Brass kits.

Do you have any Idea how many different kits were made and how long they were marketed? this one had been in my round to it box for a number of years.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: thebrighton on May 07, 2020, 01:50:54 PM
About to say the same. Never heard of Kestrel Brass and not found anything searching Google other than a similar thread on RMWeb where someone had come across a Kestrel LMS ballast hopper. Seems they were shot down from 4mm Falcon Brass kits.

Do you have any Idea how many different kits were made and how long they were marketed? this one had been in my round to it box for a number of years.


Sorry, no, the above bit about being shot down Falcon kits is the only thing I've managed to find on the internet. They remain a mystery.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Roy L S on May 07, 2020, 06:14:54 PM
Good to see another 7F, here's picture of mine


(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/491-060520133041.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92703)



(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/92/491-060520133224.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=92705)

This was bought by me and has Mike Bryant wheels, split chassis tender and modified valve gear, unfortunately since I moved it doesn't run  :'( and I'm too old to try and fix it. Also have another kit and donor loco but too scared to try and build it.

Look forward to seeing yours completed.  :)


It's a beauty, it even has the long eccentric rod of the prototype which you don't get using the 8F chassis. I do hope you manage to get it up and running again some day.

Roy
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Dancess on May 07, 2020, 09:28:50 PM
Thanks for the kind comment. Difficult to sort anything at the moment due to lockdown as was hoping to have it dealt with next time I'm in UK, if you know someone it would be appreciated, but when that will be is up to people outside of my control.

Dan
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 12, 2020, 08:59:06 PM
Whilst waiting for suitable axles for the S & T wagon from the 2mm society, I turned my attention to a couple of wagon kits that my friend @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) asked me if I would build for him. the first was a propeller carrying wagon, which after the etched brass kit was a bit of light relief and was relatively quickly finished despite the somewhat ambiguous instructions.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-120520201543.jpeg)

the second was a Trestrol wagon, in etched brass, and emboldened by the progress on the S & T wagon I set about building it and have completed the basic bodywork, but the instructions are a little vague on how the bogies are to be fitted.

 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-120520202055.jpeg)

I also started work on a couple of wagons that I recently acquired bogies for. I wonder how may people know what they are?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-120520202311.jpeg)

regards,

Alex

Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 12, 2020, 09:03:08 PM
Looks like for carrying rails, timber, heavy aircraft parts etc?
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Snowwolflair on May 12, 2020, 09:14:17 PM
They go with your little red loco and live most of the time in the dark  :D
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 12, 2020, 09:24:43 PM
Excellent work, Alex on those 3 kit-built locos. I'd love a B4 but am now tempted by seeing your USA 0-6-0T Dock Tank (and the one previously posted and beautifully finished) and the S&D 2-8-0.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 20, 2020, 12:22:05 AM
And the mystery wagons make another appearance, only this time I am sure that everyone will know what they are

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-200520000732.jpeg)

They are in fact LT 30ton GP wagons, a newer version (built 1985) of the bedstead wagons built in the 1950's but I will pretend that they are the 1950's ones. all that is needed for these now are buffers and some identity numbers, but I am in no hurry.....

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 02:18:01 AM
Alex @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193)   , like the one you mentioned https://www.eorailway.co.uk/enthusiasts/rolling-stock/wagons/ (https://www.eorailway.co.uk/enthusiasts/rolling-stock/wagons/)   here.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_engineering_stock. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_engineering_stock.)     Also https://www.47soton.co.uk/2018/09/london-underground-wagons-at-eastleigh.html (https://www.47soton.co.uk/2018/09/london-underground-wagons-at-eastleigh.html)  and were these the types to carry on site rails ? 1950s ?   
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 20, 2020, 09:45:00 AM
Alex @Hailstone (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1193)   , like the one you mentioned https://www.eorailway.co.uk/enthusiasts/rolling-stock/wagons/ (https://www.eorailway.co.uk/enthusiasts/rolling-stock/wagons/)   here.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_engineering_stock. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_engineering_stock.)     Also https://www.47soton.co.uk/2018/09/london-underground-wagons-at-eastleigh.html (https://www.47soton.co.uk/2018/09/london-underground-wagons-at-eastleigh.html)  and were these the types to carry on site rails ? 1950s ?   
That's right Chris, but our one on the EOR has no sides, they would appear to be removable, but I don't think it arrived at North weald with them, at least I haven't found them yet

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 09:49:24 AM
The second link suggests the running numbers were F341 to 371. London underground engineering stock. Maybe wrong but willing to be stood corrected
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 20, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
The EOR example is F362, see the EOR website

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 20, 2020, 11:38:39 AM
Yes saw that . Hope that you get your 2mm society axles alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 21, 2020, 01:59:42 AM
With the fine weather, I was able to do some painting and apply some transfers over the last 2 days although there is still quite a bit to do yet

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-210520015159.jpeg)

I have started to line the tender of the 53xx, which will be 5322 as I already have the number plates, the S & D 7F will be 53810  the USA tank will be 30064 (from a picture I found in a book) and the B4 will be 30089. hopefully I will make a bit more progress tomorrow.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 21, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
With the fine weather, I was able to do some painting and apply some transfers over the last 2 days although there is still quite a bit to do yet

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-210520015159.jpeg)

I have started to line the tender of the 53xx, which will be 5322 as I already have the number plates, the S & D 7F will be 53810  the USA tank will be 30064 (from a picture I found in a book) and the B4 will be 30089. hopefully I will make a bit more progress tomorrow.

Regards,

Alex

They all look very fine, Alex. Superb work. I'm particularly envious of the B4. However, someone may well make a 3D print as the Peco kits are very hard to find. What chassis did you use for it and would it be possible to fit one of the new ultra-small DCC chips somewhere? The USA Dock Tank is another very attractive model. What is the kit, please, and, again, what chassis did you use for it and would it be possible to fit one of the new ultra-small DCC chips somewhere? 

https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/MR-104_3094211_Qty1_1.jpg (https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/MR-104_3094211_Qty1_1.jpg) [00 Gauge model in very attractive livery.]
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 22, 2020, 01:09:57 PM
The B4 will accept the Arnold 2241, 2242 or 2243 chassis as to adding DCC, I would suggest that you someone who has experience in putting chips into small locos.
The USA tank  kit is from TTK models, available from BH enterprises as stated by @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) and is a very clean kit with few parts and easy to assemble even by a ham fisted modeller like me. the chassis it is designed for is the Roco Br80 (cat no 02100 A) which is very nice, but not always easy to get hold of, I was lucky and found one on ebay,
be also aware that the instructions that come with the kit recommend that you do not start the assembly until you have the chassis.
I managed to get a little more done last night (finishing at 01:30 this morning!) and took this picture

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-220520125156.jpeg)

Today I have started painting the buffer beams and will continue lining out on the 53xx

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 22, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
Many thanks, Alex. As a USA tank got as far as Meldon Quarry, that is close enough for me to make a 'Rule One' decision! I will look on eBay Germany for a chassis.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Dr Al on May 22, 2020, 02:04:56 PM
The B4 will accept the Arnold 2241, 2242 or 2243 chassis as to adding DCC, I would suggest that you someone who has experience in putting chips into small locos.

While I don't DCC, it was a question with my B4 build - looking at it, I think it would be possible to get a small chip (like a Zimo MX616F or smaller) in on top of the motor. Wiring should be easy as there are wipers that take power from pickup to motor, which can be interrupted to make the necessary connections.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 22, 2020, 02:15:31 PM
Many thanks, Alan. Finding a Peco B4 kit or someone to produce a 3D print would be the first problem. I'm hoping that with the rather larger USA Dock Tank there would be room even if it had to be a small chip (like a Zimo MX616F or smaller) in on top of the motor?
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 23, 2020, 10:51:54 AM
Another evening in the loft saw the completion of the USA and B4 tanks with a few details and adjustments left to do on the S & D 7F and 5322,

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-230520103349.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-230520103210.jpeg)

the tender lining on 5322 is 2 slightly different colours and I hope that a little weathering will make it less obvious, and the chassis has developed a stutter and will require further work, but that is in hand.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-230520103713.jpeg)

The 7F seems to have a bit of an uphill look, but I am not sure that there is much that I can do about it

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/93/1193-230520103538.jpeg)

All 4 need to be coaled and glazing applied, but essentially there are 4 more locos on the roster  :claphappy:
now to get the wagons done!

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 23, 2020, 11:03:02 AM
Very nice work indeed, Alex. The B4 and the 7F are very unusual models.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on May 28, 2020, 11:58:32 PM
A little progress on the wagon front, I got some brass bogie mounts from @Pete @ EGLM (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=923) so I have been able to complete the first Trestrol. here is a picture of it without an identity as yet, I must look through my wagon transfers and see if I can make something in the range of B901520 - B901530 as these were unfitted as built

 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/1193-280520234835.jpeg)

I must get on with the other one and also finish the S & T wagon

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on June 04, 2020, 12:21:16 AM
today I painted the S&T wagon, having put it in the ultrasonic bath to clean it

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/1193-040620000624.jpeg)

It is not perfect, but I learned a lot in it's construction, notably just how fragile many of the parts are, I can't say that I would do another of this type, the Trestrol being much easier to deal with. the brake gear particularly gave me nightmares, I wish they had been separate components as they got in the way so often. it still needs couplings to be added, but I am in no hurry.
I have started work on the Z class now, and will refer to the superb construction pictures and comments from @Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263) on his workbench thread and hope that mine will look something like as good as his.

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: exmouthcraig on June 04, 2020, 06:25:55 AM
Dont go trying too hard Alex, I want to be the only person with 3 exquisite Z class   :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on June 05, 2020, 12:45:05 PM
I had almost forgotten the I had also finished the propeller wagon for @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) as soon as the lockdown is further eased, I will deliver it to him and hopefully have a running session on his layout

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/94/1193-050620124124.jpeg)

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on June 05, 2020, 02:25:46 PM
 :thankyousign: Alex that looks supurb and cant wait to have a running session down the shed ,and run the trestrol and prop wagon in the mixed freight train .
It will be nice to see you again .Though it has been really good having the virtual club meetings on Zoom ,thanks go to Snowwolflair for organising those .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on June 13, 2020, 08:38:24 PM
Finally the 2 Trestrol wagons are complete with transfers. all that is needed now is a quick spray of Dullcote

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/95/1193-130620203443.jpeg)

then I think it will be time to run some more trains

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: crewearpley40 on June 13, 2020, 09:05:44 PM
Alex are those trestrols the type used for carrying large sheets of steel and say house building materials eg roofs etc ? Pardon my interest in those beautiful wagons that are unusual. Chris
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Stevie DC on June 13, 2020, 09:26:53 PM
You've been busy Alex, lovely work on those locos and wagons.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 13, 2020, 10:14:30 PM
You've been busy Alex, lovely work on those locos and wagons.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Bob Tidbury on June 13, 2020, 10:34:42 PM
 :thankyousign: Alex one of those and the propeller wagon will be something different to run in my mixed freight train they look really fantastic and I look forward to being able to see you and thank you in person .
Bob Tidbury
Title: Re: Hailstone's Workbench
Post by: Hailstone on June 13, 2020, 11:49:28 PM
Alex are those trestrols the type used for carrying large sheets of steel and say house building materials eg roofs etc ? Pardon my interest in those beautiful wagons that are unusual. Chris

Yes they are Chris, although they are a made from etched brass kits available from BH enterprises. the N gauge society also make a mainly plastic Trestrol kit (kit 15), but it is a different variant and the trestles are available separately and are also etched brass. the kits that I built were basic etches, so buffers, bogies, bogie mounts, wheels and transfers were sourced separately. @Bob Tidbury (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3442) asked me if I would build the propeller wagon and a what he thought was a single Trestrol kit some time ago and when I got home I looked at it and quickly put it in the round to it box to await a braver state of mind! however, the lockdown has forced me to dig into the huge backlog of unmade kits, and along with another etched brass kit for a 14ton S & T wagon I bit the bullet and got started having watched @Stevie DC (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=213) building beautiful etched wagons. they are not perfect by any means, but I have learned much in the process although I think it will be some time before I tackle another etched brass kit - the language in the loft reached epic proportions!

Regards,

Alex     
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