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Title: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 17, 2013, 11:17:07 AM
Ruleoneshire is located somewhere on central southern England  soon after Mr Beeching axe had been at work. It follows closely the Rule 1 form of layout Some would say its going to be a 'train set' type and it maybe but it is my trainset
With bus wired and top firmly screwed down construction could begin  :claphappy: :claphappy:
Enter mistake No. 1  :doh:
Using the thinner of the 2 cork sheets (1.5mm?)I covered the top glueing it down bound the edges with one or two dabs near the centre.
The track a mixture of reclaimed from layout 1 and new flexi lengths commenced by pinning and gluing the track as I went along. Quite long lengths needed laying before down as I was laying as the whim took me with only a vague plan in mind. Now gluing track down to cork soon showed up my error  :'( the cork 'floated' away from the board leaving humps and bumps.
A smallish hole punch was used and pretty soon the cork was peppered with 3mm holes.glue (dilute PVA) was run into the holes and the  filled with the cur out discs. All was now left to dry.
All the tracks now laid and 5mm holes driiled ready for seep point motors at some future date.
Dropppers fitted and connected  and a couple of locos run round the system with a DC connection to check thing out.
Now to clean what is a very dirty track and set up DCC  :drool:
Photos will follow but Ive bought a cheepo camera purely for  :ngauge: shots and not got it sorted yet
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on November 17, 2013, 11:44:10 AM
Nice one John, when I started glueing cork onto my baseboard I soon learnt a generous supply of heavy books was a necessity.  ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 17, 2013, 11:53:09 AM
Nice one John, when I started glueing cork onto my baseboard I soon learnt a generous supply of heavy books was a necessity.  ;)
Very true but a sheet of thin plastic sheeting placed between the cork and the books can save book covers etc. from damage and lift off the cork easily
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on November 17, 2013, 01:16:56 PM
Very true but a sheet of thin plastic sheeting placed between the cork and the books can save book covers etc. from damage and lift off the cork easily

The poly bags loo rolls come in are good for this, I just leave the books weights inside until I'm done.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 21, 2013, 11:20:17 AM
 Just a few 'snaps' to
1 check the camera out,
2 to check that I could remember how to use P Bucket and
3 to show you how far Ive got with things
The upper part at the back was the 1st bit built whilst the main board was on order. Its based on a layout in the Peco Setrack layout book. I will be backed by an industrial scene.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/081.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/081.jpg.html)
The main terminus on the left was connected to the main railway network via the 2 tunnels till Mr Beeching came along  :veryangry:
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/080.jpg) (http://"http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/080.jpg.html)
The 3% incline to the upper station and meandering line including the reversing loop shown.
The village/Road etc. will be built in the two empty spaces
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/082.jpg) (http://"http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/082.jpg.html)
The upper level has 2 surface mounted point motors and the rest will be seep motors.The whole unit is lift off with just one 2 wires which plug down into the main bus
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/083.jpg) (http://"http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/083.jpg.html)
The left hand end of the kit bashed bridge is fitted with a fleischmann extending rail section so that it can be disconnected when the upper level is taken down for scenic  or point wiring etc
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/084.jpg) (http://"http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/084.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 21, 2013, 11:43:47 AM
Thanks scotsoft that looks better and is as I intended it to be  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 22, 2013, 10:34:41 AM
Todays going to be checking to make sure theres no shorts, cleaning the track and connecting it up to DC and then onwards to install and test things in DCC.(my 1st ever DCC try-out) :hmmm: :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 22, 2013, 03:58:28 PM
  :( Work delayed today because kitchen needed a ceramic tile back splash to the cooker to save the paint getting splattered so I was volunteered to do it this week. I thought I had finished but no it seems not because we still have a few spare tiles  ::) .
(Strange its not needed a tiled backing for the last 39 years but now it needs one now !!  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 24, 2013, 02:17:00 PM
This morning I finally got round to cleaning the tracks and running a loco (minitrix croc.) to find out where all the problems are. Being a DC loco I stood more chance of finding and correcting faults before connecting to DCC.
With my old farish controller fitted I turned on the power, set the direction to forward and..............................nothing  :'( :'(.
I checked everywhere for shorts and that all my droppers were connected then decided to turn the power off and think things through :confused2:
It was at this point that I happened to notice that only 1 of the 2 wires leading to the track bus was plugged in  :doh: A touch of the old screwdrivering and power turned back on and I had a moving loco  :-[ It only failed to run in two places and negotiated all the setrack points perfectly.
One thing it wont do is operate round the reversing loop despite my following all the instructions of setting the module up ok.
I`m guessing its back to the manual and a spot of reading up for me tonight  :hmmm: :hmmm:.
Still I`m glad the whole thing isn't riddled with short circuits and that encourages me to get on with things. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 24, 2013, 08:38:41 PM
Right  :claphappy: :claphappy: I think Ive sorted out the revese loop. It seems that I had overdone the main droppers and 2 sets of them were inside the isolated section for the loop. [The easy cure was to cut the track beyond them and bridge the gap with a fillet of no-nails (might change that to epoxy glue tomorrow)
Also spotted that I needed an extra pair of points at the front to complete the overall outside loop.
 :doh: The only pairs of points that I have 'in stock' are the wrong hand :veryangry: what a surprise
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: dubbing_owl on November 24, 2013, 09:04:48 PM
looking good, keep up the pictures. will be watching with interest
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 28, 2013, 03:57:45 PM
Oh dear  :( what a week.
I moved the breaks in the return loop to be away from the points which should sort things out only to find that I then had 2 stretches of 'dead track' so that's 2 more pairs of droppers need.
Rather than lift a section of track in two circuits to install an extra link via two sets of points I very carefully cut the track back with a mini rotary grindstone. Then I had to sit back till the points arrived via post. They turned up on Tuesday but my back wasn`t in a modelling mode it had decided to have a few 'off' days. Still with careful measuring and fiddling about I was able to trim the tracks back to a very nice snug fit. I eased connecting fish plates onto the existing old track and pushed it on 100% Next I layed the points in and slid the fishplates back onto the points giving 50% on track and points. Perfect (nearly) fit and nice and tight.
Tuesday PM not only saw me with back problems but sons girlfriend had an op. on her back and we ended up baby sitting and are still lumbered everyday with the kids.
OK so the points fitted a treat but left me with 2 more dead tracks to sort out tomorrow so more droppers needed  :uneasy:
Still my 2 GWR Auto coaches and my ebay 73206 and 7309 class 73`s have arrived  :bounce:  :claphappy: so I have something to get the tracks ready for ASAP 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on November 28, 2013, 07:43:53 PM
Glad you're getting the track sorted, Jon :thumbsup:
Sympathise with the back problem as Tuesday I sneezed violently and ricked my back :doh:
On anti inflammatories again :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on November 28, 2013, 09:13:51 PM
I did that last week but missing a step down a kerb, went to a chiropractor after 2 days of agony, best 50 euro I've ever spent, sorted in one visit.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Malc on November 29, 2013, 10:19:15 AM
Very impressed with the way things are going John, especially like the girder bridge. Keep it coming!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 29, 2013, 07:46:03 PM
Decided today that I would get the extra droppers in and connected. I used long lengths of wire so I could get right to the bus and not have to add choblocks or anything.
Dropping to my knees I got ready to link the droppers to the bus  :-X :-X  :veryangry: my back !!!
Leaning over the board with my elbows taking some of the weight wasn`t to bad so I hatched a cunning plan  :worried:
Reaching under the board with one hand I grabbed one wire and pushed it back up through the baseboard. I managed with plenty of rest breaks to do the same with all the other new droppers.
A good wire trim back and each dropper was connected to a good section of rail.
It`s not a way I would advise but it does work.
I hope that at some time in the future I can redo it properly. Till then I can now test the whole track and get on with things. Next job tough is to service all my rolling stock after months of storage and try running stuff 1in DC and then the big hook up to DCC before Christmas
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Malc on November 29, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
I know where you are coming from with back problems, which is why my 8 x5 layout is hinged on one side so I can prop it up to get underneath.  I swap the hinges from side to side to get at the rest of the underside.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 06, 2013, 11:03:04 AM
 :( :( This weeks turned out to be a non work week thanks to bad back, doctors and dentist appointments.
It has though given me time to ponder and reflect on whats been done so far and plan out a sort of timetable for future work.
Much time has been spent reading up on DCC etc. here, in books, on fleybay  and model shop websites.
I came to the conclusion that my unused (so far) Dynamis and I are not compatible for some unknown reason (my fault not Dynamis ) so I shall have to sell it.
What I have done is ordered a Prodigy Advanced 2 from Hattons as they have a very good price on it at the moment.
All my old point motors were surface mount Peco ones that look awful and I cant really justify buying yet more seep motors so I`m trying to modify the old peco ones to be under board
5 points will be DCC but the rest will traditional wired switch control.   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Geoff on December 06, 2013, 11:37:29 AM
To tell you the truth I find the Dynamis simples to use, is it the fact that there is a nice big screen with your display your engine name your address for the locomotive, it does let itself down with being write only and no connection to a PC and no direct connection to the rails it is all infra-red, but I have the sprogg for all my programming needs then I use the Dynamis to drive trains and points, I was thinking of the eLink from Hornby but that is lacking so much equipment from its decoder range, and it does not support a Kato crossover, so there loss. I do feel If I changed I would either go to the Power Cab or the Digitrax Zephyr.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 07, 2013, 09:31:50 AM
I take your points Geoff and may try both systems out before deciding which I like best. PC connection wont happen because I use a desktop PC which is in another room and I have no intension of moving it.
I wish my arches would arrive from International Models but I guess they might be busy at this time of year.
I actually managed to cut a sheet of foam yesterday to form the front of the raised section. Today with luck I may glue a tunnel mouth to it and open up the 'hole in the middle' to give a road entrance to the village on the layout.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on December 07, 2013, 10:07:38 AM
I wish my arches would arrive from International Models but I guess they might be busy at this time of year.

Funny you should mention that, we're waiting for some super-elevated underlay.  Been a month now and it's part of SWMBO's Christmas prezzy for me :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 07, 2013, 11:04:51 AM
I wish my arches would arrive from International Models but I guess they might be busy at this time of year.

Funny you should mention that, we're waiting for some super-elevated underlay.  Been a month now and it's part of SWMBO's Christmas prezzy for me :worried:
They redeemed themselves today.
Mr Postie called twice just now. first time it was bills and trash posts and the second time.....................................
My arches. They are fantastic--better even than I had hoped for and flexible so I can see me ordering more in the new year.
My Prodigy Adv. from Hattons...ordered Wednesday   :bounce: :bounce:
and a bundle of Amazon pressies from us to other people.
Must go and read the instructions for Prod. now
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on December 07, 2013, 12:54:54 PM
I know I recommended International Models for the Merkur retaining walls but I should have added they are not particularly quick in turning orders round :sorrysign:

Having said that, maybe they are experiencing higher orders as a result of my post.
Where's my commission? :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 07, 2013, 02:13:54 PM
I know I recommended International Models for the Merkur retaining walls but I should have added they are not particularly quick in turning orders round
I just knew it was your fault  >:(
   :worried: :doh: :-[ A word of warning the foam that the arches are made from is very soft and the surface needs careful handling. Mine has just had a thumbnail mark appear on it from when I was sticking it down >:( so handle with care
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 10, 2013, 09:19:42 AM
Finally managed a couple of hours working on the layout over the weekend. No pictures yet but I`ll try and take some later.
The upper level was lifted out of its sockets and a 3/4" wide strip added to the back edge because the rear track was so close. to the edge there was no room for low relief buildings behind it. Now its off I think I will fit the point motors and do some scenic work on it including adding the factory loading  platforms to it  :)
At least with it off and out the way I can wire a couple of extra droppers for the main track through the connections to the bus.
I think it may be possible to run it as a shelf layout in its own right if I 'tack on' a  length of fiddle yard track. I shall investigate the possibilities. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 11, 2013, 07:56:39 PM
A boring few days  with odd half hours every now and again to get at the layout :(.
I think all the track is now live with all the extra droppers. Taken the upper level off (it fits in slots so it can be removed for working on.
Even managed today to build my programing track but its not wired up yet. The tunnel that the road vanishing into had a backing made and painted today and it looks ok.
Tomorrow I`ll try and run a coulpe of locos round the track and start programing a loco or two  :dunce:  (be ready to answer my stupid questions)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on December 11, 2013, 11:39:57 PM
Looking good John I like your reverse loop and higher level, its given me idea's for my layout which is based on a bigish junction. Not sure how long it has taken you to do this but you seem to have done a lot more than me in a far shorter time.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 15, 2013, 03:54:38 PM
I planned a nearly full days of work on various bits of the layout on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and good old Sunday.
Thursday PM found me chilly and slightly 'wobbly' so not much got dun.
Friday started at 2-30 with a quick nip into the bathroom. I staggered back into the bedroom and hadn`t got enough air in me to even reach for and use my inhaler +I felt as if I was in the freezer but eventually got back to bed and by 5-45 I had warmed up a bit  :(. Guess what-------------hardly anything happened layout wise but I was sure a rest and lazy day would see me fine.
Well I started off OK today laid some filler and stuck down some cork.
Lunchtime the grandkids and their parents arrived for lunch.
I was delighted when they left 2 hours later and I could crawl back to bed. shivering, head pounding and dizzy  again.
TOMORROW I hope to catch up on lost time but I`m not counting on it despite having come up with a few good ideas whist I rested  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on December 15, 2013, 04:02:11 PM
I think you would be better off staying in bed till you feel a lot better, that way you will get more done on your layout.

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on December 15, 2013, 08:41:27 PM
Hi there john all I can say is get well, then you can work on the railway, health has to come first. I m lucky, well I won't say luck as I have no grandkids yet and the way my two sons carry not sure when. I have been ballasting, a bit more soldering, back to ballasting etc. Hopeully when I have the track running smooth I can start on the scenery.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 19, 2013, 04:21:45 PM
I have been ballasting, a bit more soldering, back to ballasting etc. Hopeully when I have the track running smooth I can start on the scenery.
Ah the joys of ballasting ::) a joy I have yet to explore  :help: Maybe my programming track will be the first to experience my skills.  :doh:
Once this chest infection has cleared up  >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 20, 2013, 07:46:17 PM
Todays planning was well thought out.
Tidy up baseboard which looks a bit like a junk yard at the moment
Go to the dentist for a denture fitting and a smashed wisdom tooth filling
Wet (soup) lunch followed by an hours rest
Mount the 5 seep motors for the back raised level (Wurldsend).
Give you lot a treat by taking pictures and uploading them
Have a quiet evening

Completed.........
Bad night due to chest problems meant leaving the junk on the layout
dentist cancelled because dentures not back from makers yet ...... filling and denture fitting Monday  scheduled.
3 point motors semi fitted but not fully aligned
camera batteries flat  :-[
Head throbbing like mad from all the medication.
Going to give up  :whiteflag: :whiteflag:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on December 20, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
The best laid plans.........
Hope all resolves itself soon, Jon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 21, 2013, 09:31:33 PM
''Wurldsend''  track picture. Approx 36'' X 11"
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0130.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0130.jpg.html)


(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0133.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0133.jpg.html)

Under ''Wurldsend'' ready to wire up

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0131.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0131.jpg.html)
End point motor removed to have wires soldered.

The whole unit fits into 4 sockets along the back edges of ''Ruleonshire''
Lessens learned during installing point motors--
Block them away from the layout board well clear of the rod hole on small wooden blocks -- 6mm I used
cover the raised blocks with a thin layer  (1/16'') of cork. That will hold the point motor in place without distorting it'.
Open the hole in the pointsthat the motor rod works through from 1mm to 1.5mm this will allow it slight freedom (do that after 1st setting the point  mounting holes in the right place)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 21, 2013, 09:43:35 PM
Wurldsend is wired and plugged in such a way as it just plugs directly into Ruleonshires power bus
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 28, 2013, 11:49:20 AM
Still got a stinking cold so very little was done over the Christmas apart from gazing at the progress that's been made sinse day 1 when the 1st tracks were laid. I was to stingy to buy new points so made due with the setrack ones I had from before. Last night I realised that I really was going to have problems round about the lower terminus.
The whole lot in that area has to come up and be replaced by Streamline points.
Ive just ordered 4 pairs if electrofrog so Ive got some ripping up and relaying to do  >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on December 28, 2013, 01:20:43 PM

The whole lot in that area has to come up and be replaced by Streamline points.
Ive just ordered 4 pairs if electrofrog so Ive got some ripping up and relaying to do  >:(

I'm sure you'll notice the difference in both looks and running, Jon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 28, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
I shall start at the worse section and work my way out. Once I have got descent running I shall call a halt till funds increase
I think that one area will need total destruction and re routing  :hmmm: 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 29, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
Looking at this in the cold light of morning has made me realise that's theres no quick/easy way out. A minimum of 8 new points will be needed to connect the whole thing back together.  :help:
thank gawd for credit cards.
Total number of points now on order with a couple of spares of most types and a couple of curved ones as alternative options
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 31, 2013, 08:52:00 PM
Managed to rip out a few setrack points today and after much badish language replace and align them with slightly shortened streamline points.
At one time I got so frustrated because of the extra length required and the fact that I nearly forgot which line connected into which point I gave up for an hour and had a rest.
2 left hand points I was waiting for turned up today but  I had ordered insulfrog instead of electro.  :dunce: :dunce:
More waiting again I suppose ::) Roll on 2014
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Tank on December 31, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
Good move getting away from set track points. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 01, 2014, 04:25:24 PM
Good move getting away from set track points. :thumbsup:
I agree but I shall still be running some setrack points and must say that Ive had very few problems with them over the past few years.
I would love to be able to change every one, maybe even changing everything to code 55 but the cost and waste  of code 80 that I already have just makes that impossible
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 03, 2014, 03:44:43 PM
 >:( I hope the post soon settles down. I`m owed packages from 2  very reliable supplier and know that both were dispatched last week/year.Still no sign of either and Ive not a track connected up to play run trains on. :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 04, 2014, 08:38:10 PM
One parcel arrived today via a drenched postman who was about to abandon deliveries in the village because of rising water across the roads and rising onto the pavements.
Still I had the 2 points I was desperate for at last. Both are now installed and the next in line and to the side can be done tomorrow.
One nice unexpected surprise today was looking at my tube of long-part-used-flexitrack bits and finding a brand spanking new length of flexi so I can use that on the most important areas. 
Yesterdays 'dead time' was used to examine other areas of the layout (rather than wire up odds and ends as I go)
Ive always disliked flat layouts and although I already have an incline up to 'wurldsend' a couple more areas could develop slightly raised track.
The inline will (maybe) have raised track inside it and another round the outside sliding back down to ground level as it appears from under the bridge.(theres 1/2" clearance above a loco when under the bridge so I can let the decline halve that).
The main station area looks like a bomb site where track has been ripped up for new points and new platform rail layout has to be sorted out.
Something came to mind today and I`m not in a rush to even start  it but 'wurldsend' is a tightly spaced setrack area with no room for expansion. What I`m wondering is if anyone knows of sets of electro points that are close to the peco ST 5/6 geometary.I guess its the tight turnout that will be a problem. Ideas anyone?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 04, 2014, 09:37:29 PM
Hi Jon,
If you have a squint at the Peco products on Hattons website, they give full dimensional details of all the points which hopefully will help you :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 04, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Hi Jon,
If you have a squint at the Peco products on Hattons website, they give full dimensional details of all the points which hopefully will help you :thumbsup:
  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Agreed. In fact that's where I have been browsing of late.
The real answer would be if Peco started producing ST5 & 6 electrofrog points but I can see all the problems the unaware would have
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 07, 2014, 08:48:38 PM
At long last Ive got the main station area re-pointed and track laid. I still have  wire it but solder fumes arnt a good idea whilst my chest is playing up.
Treated myself to a Dremel Moto Saw  over the weekend and it was delivered today. Must be 50+ years sinse I last drove a fret saw and then it was treadle powered. I`m not a dremel lover but the size and price suited me so I took the plunge.
1st outing with it today after careful measuring and drawing of radiuses on some 4 mm ply. Its a dream My cuts aren't perfect but even I feel that they are pretty good. That will be used on the inside incline which is 15" radius. I managed to cut nearly a full circle. Tomorrow with luck I can lay that.
Might try and upload a few pictures soon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 12, 2014, 11:06:27 AM
 :worried: All this 'do nothing but rest for a week' is getting me down :uneasy: Still its giving me ideas that will mean experimenting with 009 points and track up in `wurldsend` but that may have to go on back burner till the bank manager allows a bit of cash easement.
Did manage between sweating bouts to hack a low tunnel through under the incline and dig out a shallow river bed under it. A cut down road bridge should produce an acceptable facing for iton both sides. Its lined with dark grey plasticard to improve the looks and support the remaining incline running over the top of it.
 >:( My solid water hardener has ''gorn orft'' so I shall have to get some more of that.
Rest becons Back later byeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 13, 2014, 08:57:48 PM
One side of the little bridge glued on yesterday and the other side this morning (no more nails used) so slow setting  of each side under clamps.
Second side lined up ok and clampsheld it above whats to be the water line. My solid water arrived this morning so I did a mix to cover the stream bed about 1mm as a base coat......even that now has a slower setting time of 2-3 days :confused1:
About 3 coats should  do with weed painted on the surface between coats.
Still it got something done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on January 14, 2014, 09:04:30 AM
You can also download full size templates from the Peco site~:

http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=pointplans (http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=pointplans)

HTH

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 14, 2014, 09:55:33 AM
You can also download full size templates from the Peco site~:

[url]http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=pointplans[/url] ([url]http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=pointplans[/url])

HTH

Dave G

Thanks Dave G. I have most of them copied and printed now.
I had ignored 00-9 up to now though because I hadn't realised it is the same as  :ngauge:
Error now corrected and file enlarged. Its also good to see it on Anyrail
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 15, 2014, 03:56:11 PM
Installing fresh droppers is going to be a nightmare the way my backs playing me up so Ive decided to drill the holes >>>>>>>>>>>>push a longish length of wire down through for each hole. Once an area is done I will solder the underneath ends together, choc block them and link to the power bus. Once that's done I will pull all surplose wire back up through the board and solder the shortened ends to the track.
This way I can progress (?) and get trains running until ALL droppers are working and I can get the board rolled on its side for one mega tidy up (I hope)
Oh great Ive not got enough wire >:( to do even half of it so back to ordering stuff  :veryangry:
Must just say I`m quite happy with my river/stream efforts.I pour a thin layer over a painted base, when dryish  paint a few fonds(?)ofgreen and brown weeds on it then when dry pour another layer of water over the top. 3 layers so far in 3 days. One more coat should do
(camera batteries now on charge) :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ChrisB on January 15, 2014, 08:56:22 PM
... Ive decided to drill the holes >>>>>>>>>>>>push a longish length of wire down through for each hole. Once an area is done I will solder the underneath ends together, choc block them and link to the power bus. Once that's done I will pull all surplose wire back up through the board and solder the shortened ends to the track.


That's pretty much how I did mine and it worked fine.
Drill the holes between the sleepers on the outside of the track. Solder the wire horizontally to the outside of the track 1 sleeper up. Then push the wire through the hole. I used crimps rather than choc blocks. Much quicker so less time spent underneath the board !
Have a butchers here http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16154.msg160464#msg160464 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16154.msg160464#msg160464)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 15, 2014, 09:58:08 PM
... Ive decided to drill the holes >>>>>>>>>>>>push a longish length of wire down through for each hole. Once an area is done I will solder the underneath ends together, choc block them and link to the power bus. Once that's done I will pull all surplose wire back up through the board and solder the shortened ends to the track.


That's pretty much how I did mine and it worked fine.
Drill the holes between the sleepers on the outside of the track. Solder the wire horizontally to the outside of the track 1 sleeper up. Then push the wire through the hole. I used crimps rather than choc blocks. Much quicker so less time spent underneath the board !
Have a butchers here [url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16154.msg160464#msg160464[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16154.msg160464#msg160464[/url])

The idea is that I gather and  link everything below board at a comfortable distance then pull the loose wires back up through the board, cut them to length and then solder them to the track
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 16, 2014, 10:34:54 AM
The streams not worked out well so I shall give it a feint muddy wash over and then add more water just to tone things down a bit
  (http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0139.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0139.jpg.html)

All 3 raised sections of track laid or ready to be fixed down or sorted out
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0138.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0138.jpg.html)

Utter chaos so Ive covered the worst bits with a scenic binliner
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0137.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0137.jpg.html)
lots more work to do on the low bridge and immediate area but its getting there
(I hope  :worried: )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 16, 2014, 11:07:08 AM
Coming along, Jon, but don't overdo it health wise.
Fancy covering up the 'warts' section - spoilsport :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bealman on January 16, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
I reckon the old warts section will be near the stereo  :D

George
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 16, 2014, 11:29:52 AM
 
I reckon the old warts section will be near the stereo  :D

George
  :-[ :-[ Ummmmmmmmmm .........errrrrrrrrrr......
Pure classics (to me) I will have you know maybe
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 16, 2014, 04:35:28 PM
An afternoon setting up the dremel saw so that all (?) sawdust fell into an unused waste disposal sack and then with dust mask on sawing 13.5" radii out of a piece of thin ply to make raised. Slow work with plenty of rest breaks but its been waiting 10 days to be done.
Many frowns from SWMBOd seeing me sawing in the spare bed train room.
Mind you I think/know she is suffering more than me with this bug.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 18, 2014, 02:53:04 PM
 Yesterday afternoon I laid some of the thin ply trackbed for the inner hump/incline/bulge ...whatever .... and this morning started to lay the track. Its a non standard curve radius so I can only lay a little along the trackbed, temp. pin it down and add glue. Leave for an hour or so and lay the next bit  :-). So far it seems to be working.
Tried my hand at papier machee just now  >:( whatamess!!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on January 18, 2014, 03:20:10 PM
Tried my hand at papier machee just now  >:( whatamess!!

Yes but sooo therapeutic  :bounce:  :bounce: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 19, 2014, 09:25:48 AM
Tried my hand at papier machee just now  >:( whatamess!!

Yes but sooo therapeutic  :bounce:  :bounce: :claphappy:
Actually NO I found it frustrating.
The whole lots being ripped off and replaced by thin strips of balsawood. Once dry it with have a thin plaster coating to landscape it up a bit
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 19, 2014, 10:36:13 AM
I'm going to try balsa wood vertical formers with thin strips of paper soaked in a suitable glue (whatever I can buy here) laid over them. I need something light and strong (and hollow) for hills rather than paper mache.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on January 19, 2014, 11:28:40 AM
Best way I have found in crumpled newspaper or polystyrene former covered with plaster socked kitchen roll, add some PVA to make it stronger and water colour paint (brownish) to stop the white showing up any chips.   ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 19, 2014, 11:47:26 AM
Best way I have found in crumpled newspaper or polystyrene former covered with plaster socked kitchen roll, add some PVA to make it stronger and water colour paint (brownish) to stop the white showing up any chips.   ;)

Thanks; that sounds rather better especially as I'm likely to have spare pieces of polystyrene insulating board.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on January 19, 2014, 11:52:05 AM
This link should take you to the part of my layout thread that shows the contruction of my landscape http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.msg74921#msg74921 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.msg74921#msg74921)   :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 19, 2014, 11:57:38 AM
This link should take you to the part of my layout thread that shows the contrruction of my landscape [url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.msg74921#msg74921[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.msg74921#msg74921[/url])   :)


Many thanks; yes, your hills are the effect I'm aiming for for the downward sloping meadows behind Cant Cove station.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 19, 2014, 01:18:13 PM
Aside from crumpled newspaper, many years ago we were all exhorted to buy a shredder to get rid of unwanted mail with addresses on it (security against identity theft) so maybe shredded paper would do?
It seems our recycling guys won't take shredded paper ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 19, 2014, 07:29:51 PM
Its been fiddle about day today. minimal progress on multitasked aspects of the layout
The ongoing balsawood ramp side build ups. Lay 6 and glue (while woodworking gue). Leave for an hour.
OK there are much faster glues but fumes from them soon wreck my breathing.
Glue tacking down flexi a few inches at a time (same glue as above)
Routing fresh/extra droppers through the baseboard.
Ripping out 1 metre of setrack and preparing to insert 2 short 00-9 points as an upgrade.
Smear Pollifilla 1st coat where applicable
Finish programming track diorama (work in hand)
Check sizes and clearances of ,lighter camera  (ongoing)
Think right outside box and make start on a  'hook in  wanderound local DCC bus board' for use at times when crawling under board is not a viable option due to bad back etc.
For now its just scrap wood/cable/plugs etc etc to see if its feasible before using stock plasticard etc as a permanent tool
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 19, 2014, 08:08:03 PM
Time for some more pics, Jon :camera:
Pretty please :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 19, 2014, 08:21:16 PM
Time for some more pics, Jon :camera:
Pretty please :D
::) I will add it to tomorrows growing list which also now includes
'Look after 3 year old grandchild for about 2 hours' (which translates to 4 hours  >:( )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 20, 2014, 10:35:06 AM
 >:(  Monday 20th Jan 2014 is to be removed from my calendar.
Last night my modelling specs fell to pieces  :veryangry: and I cant find a screw the right size to repair them (Tamika masking tape will have to do for now)
Son has failed to return camera after borrowing it for a couple of hours last week
Opened a tube of flexi pollifilla just now and squeezed.....whole tube spread over hands, layoutboard and room in general :help: :help: :help:
....and its still only 10-30
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 20, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
Oh dear, Jon. I hope things will soon improve.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on January 20, 2014, 10:52:56 AM
Cripes!

Put the kettle on and after a decent cup of what you fancy,  approach the problem with calm dignity!

 :'(  :'(  :'(

Good luck with the clear up!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 20, 2014, 11:12:54 AM
Time to retire to bed and dismiss this day as 'never happened' ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 20, 2014, 11:21:45 AM
Time to retire to bed and dismiss this day as 'never happened' ;)
Agreed...... but 3 year old arrives to play at lunch time  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 20, 2014, 04:35:14 PM
Oh well todays not been a total disaster  :-\
Ive managed to change one set of points and slightly reposition the track around it. That should allow me to link in the 2 low raised sections. I was going to  start the inclines an inch or so before the points and would have had to lift the points on a 1/8'' ply plinth. Levels now show that the points are ok at board level and the inclines can ease up from there on.
Plasters still setting. Probably because I smeared it on big time after the tube burst. >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 20, 2014, 04:37:09 PM
Good to read that, Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 21, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
Today has been a case of checking out yesterdays disasters.
Not much has been done though the new point situation looks ok with the 'incline' starting just beyond it . 
 Its only a rise of about 1.5 cm so should be ok but I`m easing it in gradually.
Dreamt last night that to make life really easy I would CGI a fiddle yard onto the side of the layout. This would give me endless sidings and stock.  :hmmm:

 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 21, 2014, 04:33:23 PM

Dreamt last night that to make life really easy I would CGI a fiddle yard onto the side of the layout. This would give me endless sidings and stock.  :hmmm:

Wrong sort of mushrooms had for dinner, Jon ;) :laugh3:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 21, 2014, 04:37:35 PM

Dreamt last night that to make life really easy I would CGI a fiddle yard onto the side of the layout. This would give me endless sidings and stock.  :hmmm:

Wrong sort of mushrooms had for dinner, Jon ;) :laugh3:
Ah no
I like to think that its down to thinking outside the box
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 25, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
 ::) Bit of a rethink over the last lazy day or so.
There`s no way I`m going to be able to get under the layout board for a week or soand the board cant roll on its side because SWMBO has started filling the widened window sill with seedings etc she is bring on for 6-8 weeks and needs access to them every day (to water the damn things) >:D hence all my wiring etc will have to done above board. Soooooo I`m going to GSI son to link a 2 metre cable into the power bus under the board and push it up through a hole in the layout (it can be in filled  later. Then with a bigger temporary hole alongside it I can raise droppers wires up through it and connect them one by one to their respective homes. That way work may be able to progress.
It will mean 90% of points will have to be 'Hand of God' operated for the foreseeable future but  can cope with that. Still go track to lay/finish off and 1 point to change from ST6 but that's the only one that will be operated by a PL11
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2014, 11:53:20 AM
I also plan to use the 'Hand of God' to operate my points but will allow the space and fit the wires (droppers to the points power bus) for adding point motors later by using one point motor as a 'pattern' for the others. (I plan to sink my point motors in depressions cut into the insulating sheets upon which the track and scenery will be fixed. This also should allow me to sink the footings of buildings into the ground rather than leave a space underneath them.)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 25, 2014, 02:36:58 PM
I also plan to use the 'Hand of God' to operate my points but will allow the space and fit the wires (droppers to the points power bus) for adding point motors later by using one point motor as a 'pattern' for the others.
Good ideas Chris.
As I lay the points I drill the activating hole through ready to sit the motors below at a suitable time  :) (I did forget twice in the early laying spree and have to lift both points to drill the holes------------I tend not to forget now) ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 25, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
I also plan to use the 'Hand of God' to operate my points but will allow the space and fit the wires (droppers to the points power bus) for adding point motors later by using one point motor as a 'pattern' for the others.
Good ideas Chris.
As I lay the points I drill the activating hole through ready to sit the motors below at a suitable time  :) (I did forget twice in the early laying spree and have to lift both points to drill the holes------------I tend not to forget now) ;)

My pleasure, Jon. I was only learning from others' posted experience and have a point motor coming to ensure that I have a template! Many years ago, on my first layout, I laid a siding in the goods yard then glued the cardboard for the surface on top and, later, destroyed a newly bought point trying to retrofit it to the glued-in track! This memories tend to stick in the mind! 8-(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 29, 2014, 10:58:20 AM
Still not up to model work but I have been thinking a great deal.
The main problem I seem to have is one massive short circuit.
Most of the wires to the main bus have been removed and slow methodical rewiring will take place. Laying in bed yesterday a thought went through my 1 brain cell and I suddenly remembered placing 2 spray adhesive cans on 'worldsend' to get it out the way whist I work elsewhere.
 :doh: :doh: They are still there and  'worldsend' is still connected to the bus :dunce:
I recon those cans make a perfect short circuit  :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 29, 2014, 11:02:05 AM
I wish you a speedy recovery to full railway modelling health, Jon. (At least you've, probably, discovered what is causing the short circuit.)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 04, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
Chat with my GP this morning sorted out a few things and he recons I can very slowly get back into action as long as I take things easy and  'go with the flow'   :confused1:
Last couple of days Ive started to feel better but know theres a way to go so Ive started with some low key retail therapy  :doh: which might speed me along.
Cant wait to get started. The layout looks a mess so a good spring clean is probably a good kicking off point 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on February 04, 2014, 03:39:58 PM
Nice one John, glad you are going to slowly get back into the groove, a bit of retail therapy always helps I find and you're speaking to the expert in that.  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on February 05, 2014, 01:08:40 AM
Chat with my GP this morning sorted out a few things and he recons I can very slowly get back into action as long as I take things easy and  'go with the flow'   :confused1:
Last couple of days Ive started to feel better but know theres a way to go so Ive started with some low key retail therapy  :doh: which might speed me along.
Cant wait to get started. The layout looks a mess so a good spring clean is probably a good kicking off point

Good for you just take it easy and enjoy the trains
Graham
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 05, 2014, 07:22:06 AM
Chat with my GP this morning sorted out a few things and he recons I can very slowly get back into action as long as I take things easy and  'go with the flow'   :confused1:
Last couple of days Ive started to feel better but know theres a way to go so Ive started with some low key retail therapy  :doh: which might speed me along.
Cant wait to get started. The layout looks a mess so a good spring clean is probably a good kicking off point

Good for you just take it easy and enjoy the trains
Graham

Seconded; enjoy your railway modelling. I wish you all success.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 05, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
Very slow low key start today but at least I have 3 fishplate wounds to prove it  >:(......and 2 replaced pieces of iffy 2nd hand track
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 05, 2014, 04:54:49 PM
Take it easy and beware of the fishplates! 8-)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on February 05, 2014, 04:57:13 PM
Very slow low key start today but at least I have 3 fishplate wounds to prove it  >:(......and 2 replaced pieces of iffy 2nd hand track

It does not matter how much you have done, at least it is something  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bealman on February 05, 2014, 11:07:41 PM
Yep... the dreaded fishplate wounds. The bane of every N gauge modeller.

Good you're back in action though.  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on February 05, 2014, 11:41:19 PM
Yep... the dreaded fishplate wounds. The bane of every N gauge modeller.

Good you're back in action though.  :thumbsup:

George

Not if you use KATO unitrak  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost: :bounce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 06, 2014, 09:44:03 AM
 :'( Cant get into the room this morning.Mrs SWMBO has decided that I have made such a mess on the carpet she is in there on hands and knees with a dustpan and brush. I may be sleeping in the garage tonight :-X
I think in some ways though she is happy to see me back doing something again
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on February 06, 2014, 10:12:14 AM
:'( Cant get into the room this morning.Mrs SWMBO has decided that I have made such a mess on the carpet she is in there on hands and knees with a dustpan and brush. I may be sleeping in the garage tonight :-X
I think in some ways though she is happy to see me back doing something again


Remember the Flanders and Swann ditty: 'It all makes work for the working man to do.'
The Gas Man Cometh - Flanders and Swann (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeMFSzPgGc#)

Enjoy your modelling!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on February 06, 2014, 10:27:45 AM
Yep... the dreaded fishplate wounds. The bane of every N gauge modeller.

Good you're back in action though.  :thumbsup:

George

Not if you use KATO unitrak  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost: :bounce:

How true, all you get is that satisfying sound of the two pieces clicking together  :heart2:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bealman on February 06, 2014, 10:30:14 AM
That is wonderful, Dave! Remember that when I was kid! Geez I dunno where you folk dredge this stuff up from!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 07, 2014, 09:00:39 AM
3year olds coming over again today so shant  get much done. Nerrer mind it will be nice to see him again.
From emails received it seems I`m in for a whole load of 'bits and pieces' orders today  :claphappy: :claphappy:
I really need to put up another light in the trainroom as one end is near impossible to work in if its dark.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 07, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
Decided to reinstate a main loop having changed the points halfway along it. The two new ends of the flexitrack matched up 1st time and within minutes the track map pinned down and glued then left for 4 hours to `set'.
Next came joining the new point (00-9 short) to the same that forms the start of a head shunt/siding at one of the platforms
Great idea ...........use mainline 00-9 track for the linking length   ..............so "that there link is remains of old 1898 track laid by great grandpaw Trackman" 
Good innit?
To round the working day off I ran my fingers round the tracks to make sure all was smooth and nice and ended up painting the track red......... no not rust red but blood  >:( :help:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 08, 2014, 08:59:37 AM
 :'( Just been told that I need to concentrate on grandsons b/day present for a day or so .
It means that I shall have to work in another scale ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bigjigs-Rail-BJT052-Low-Level-Track-Expansion-Pack-/181278294527?pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item2a350741ff (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bigjigs-Rail-BJT052-Low-Level-Track-Expansion-Pack-/181278294527?pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item2a350741ff) ) between doing  :ngauge: stuff
( Can anybody tell me if its DC or DCC please )  :confused1: :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: A.Carter (BiG-T) on February 08, 2014, 10:02:19 AM
Definitely Digital... you need the digits on each hand to operate this system, at least there is no wiring or live frogs to tackle!

Tony
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 08, 2014, 07:29:54 PM
A dismal start to the morning because the light was poor and what light I could use was in flashy/intermittent mode due to the weather. :veryangry:
Did manage to start installing track to the new points at the back of the layout where they start to climb up over the river humps. Hope to finish connecting them tomorrow if alls well.
Checked out my power bus with a new tester I got from fle-bey and it reads good. I was afraid there wasn't enough power from the old GraFa controller I have wired in till everything is connected then it  should just be a case of switching control to my DCC gear.
The bus and connecting to it realy is getting to me. I cant get down on my knees to hook droppers etc into the bus.
Ended up working out where the main areas of connection will be and drilling a 16mm hole through the base board in 2 separate places.
I can now draw a spur up through the holes and connect all droppers on the surface (they will eventually be under scenery),connect in all the droppers by groping under the board and pushing them up to join the spurs. When I`m happy that all is well they can be pushed back down through the holes and 16mm bungs put in before the whole thing vanishes from view.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on February 09, 2014, 11:07:26 AM
A dismal start to the morning because the light was poor and what light I could use was in flashy/intermittent mode due to the weather. :veryangry:
Did manage to start installing track to the new points at the back of the layout where they start to climb up over the river humps. Hope to finish connecting them tomorrow if alls well.
Checked out my power bus with a new tester I got from fle-bey and it reads good. I was afraid there wasn't enough power from the old GraFa controller I have wired in till everything is connected then it  should just be a case of switching control to my DCC gear.
The bus and connecting to it realy is getting to me. I cant get down on my knees to hook droppers etc into the bus.
Ended up working out where the main areas of connection will be and drilling a 16mm hole through the base board in 2 separate places.
I can now draw a spur up through the holes and connect all droppers on the surface (they will eventually be under scenery),connect in all the droppers by groping under the board and pushing them up to join the spurs. When I`m happy that all is well they can be pushed back down through the holes and 16mm bungs put in before the whole thing vanishes from view.

Great way to save your knees, hope you are not trying to over do it though, SWMBO is giving me a small amount of grief caught me laying under the layout trying to re-attach some power leads Ho Humm
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 09, 2014, 11:26:49 AM
Having checked out the above board bus connection this morning and checked correct gauge for droppers I think things are on the up. 1 circuit has its droppers in situ now but not yet soldered.
Trouble is I`m also fixing re routed tracks on the other end of the  layout so end up spot gluing parts of that down between wiring etc.

Spotted 2 more points that really need changing to electofrog but that may have to wait for a few days or weeks. I really want to get some stock running before I do much more
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 09, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
OK so that wasn't such a bad day.
Didn`t do as much as I hoped but at least Ive proved that I can wire things up, solder both ends and get a circuit through them to the track and all without getting under the board. Theres a couple of temporary connections that will come out when the final bus burial takes place but for now I can link in, solder and test whist semi upright (me not the layout).
In fact I did waste some time.....cleaning up track as I went along and then playin testing my work with a single loco.
Honest it might only have had 2 metres to run over but at least the running was consistent and acceptable (by me)  :angel:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on February 09, 2014, 07:34:55 PM
Good to hear you're making good progress!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 09, 2014, 08:06:10 PM
Slow but steady is the way to get there! 8-)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: dodger112958 on February 09, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
Progress is progress, you will get there in the end.
Ian
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 10, 2014, 01:50:58 PM
 1 loop completely joined up and gluing having tested it out 1st.
6 dropper wires vanishing below the board and reappearing up through the 'raised' power bus access. May leave soldering till the rest (about 10 are all ready to do in 1 hit)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 10, 2014, 02:06:42 PM
Right  :confused2: we were about to go out for a car ride....nothing special and well away from any floods BUT
its pee raining hard again.
Guess its back to the wiring and gluing for me  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 11, 2014, 11:06:28 AM
Got most of the droppers I had positioned soldered yesterday. I really must order an overhead light socket for that end of the room(and wire it up). Progressing with sides and trackbed for the `hump` at the outside end. Already put in one extra point this morning before connecting up the inner loop and `hump'
I`m 2 sets of points short of what I need at the moment but but started out ok because I had one that fitted into the design.
Extra points ordered plus 2 spare. That should keep me going for a while. At least I think I can remove completely a pair of old ST 5 or 6s from one area now.
Will have to work out new wiring and track length for reverse loop but that's not a problem  ....... next week will do  ::) at least I have a reversing loop module ready so not more expence
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 11, 2014, 03:09:27 PM
You seem to be getting an awful lot done, Jon.
Weren't you advised to take it easy for a little while? :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 11, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
You seem to be getting an awful lot done, Jon.
Weren't you advised to take it easy for a little while? :worried:
:-[ Ah  yes but that was then  :doh: In fairness Ive got things organised so that most of the time all I have to do is lean over the layout and rest my ellows on it to save much strain. Theres a chair and a slightly taller stool very close to hand so rests are I can assure you thankfully taken.
Mind you having soldered down the last few droppers from yesterday I had an awful shock. Despite constant checking I had a *umping great short somewhere in the circuit. Took me cose on an hour to trace it to a length of track that I`m not expecting to work on this week. I had fitted in a linking set of points and despite all my tests had shorted across  >:( I hadn't even realised the new sections were carrying power that far round. 2 wires snipped and all's well (for now)  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 11, 2014, 03:39:47 PM
2 wires snipped and all's well (for now)  ::)

Beware Jon - that's what my ex told me :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 11, 2014, 04:03:48 PM
 
2 wires snipped and all's well (for now)  ::)

Beware Jon - that's what my ex told me :doh:
:laugh3: Strange I was expecting that comment  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 11, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
Defiantly time to stop tonight . Ive just cut a length of flexi. 3.5mm to short  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 11, 2014, 09:01:28 PM
Seems like you've had a good, long, productive day so, definitely, time to take a rest.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 12, 2014, 08:39:14 AM
 :hmmm: Right.......
Apart from essential scenic work  (to support inclines etc.) 100% activity will go into track and point laying and proving.
Messy day today though.
Grandsons 3 so that's a trip out to see him  :thumbsup:
New TV should arrive  :thumbsup:
Hattons are delivering a small package by courier.
Amazon and fleabey owe us 6 small packages.
and  . . . . . Its raining >:( but theres no immediate risk of flooding near us ATM
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on February 12, 2014, 09:13:03 AM
Nice gentle, easy day then!

Have fun.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 12, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
:hmmm: Right.......
Apart from essential scenic work  (to support inclines etc.) 100% activity will go into track and point laying and proving.
Messy day today though.
Grandsons 3 so that's a trip out to see him  :thumbsup:
New TV should arrive  :thumbsup:
Hattons are delivering a small package by courier.
Amazon and fleabey owe us 6 small packages.
and  . . . . . Its raining >:( but theres no immediate risk of flooding near us ATM
TV delivered by 9-30---our wall bracket dosnt fit it >:( New bracket delivery tomorrow
3 year old visited and 'sorted out'  ::)
TV propped up on small table and tested---SWMBOd is happy  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
3 sets of points arrived-------1 fitted other 2 positions marked
1st circuit now tracked completely (20 ft approx)  :claphappy: :claphappy: Still needs 12 droppers though.
Preparing to throw away about 75% of my pre used track and stick with new stuff
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 12, 2014, 04:37:55 PM
A very good day, then. 8-)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 14, 2014, 10:48:53 AM
 :doh: Rather overdid things yesterday.
Track replacing and re-aligning in the morning meant reaching across the layout rather a lot (shall try and pull layout forward and work from the back over the weekend)
The afternoon was fixing up the wall bracket for the TV. More stretching and drilling etc.  :scowl:
Last night was sore muscle time and today I think I shall rest a bit.
Just 2 more points to replace at the front of the layout so that's not a problem. Its just doing all the droppers that's going to make me struggle just at the moment.
I`ll end up with 3 loops once everything's done whereas the original plan ended up with only 1 loop and other bits of the track sharing it.
With luck I might just get my camera back this weekend. Its only a fairly cheap thing but my hobby is  :ngauge: not photography
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 14, 2014, 02:41:45 PM
I had really lost count of the points on the layout. In fact to some extent I had lost sight of which track lead to each loop.
As its mega tidy up weekend (in small doses) I gave myself a shock by counting all the points and where they now lead to. They do infact lead to the places I intended them to  :claphappy: (some just need the rails laid to connect them........well they arrived just now  :) ).  On the level main board area theres 17 sets of points and `wurldsend` has another 5 which will not get replaced/sorted out just yet. in fact it will have to wait till the main boards up and running DCC.
I reckoned when I started out that I might need 10 sets but evolution has stepped in it would seem.  :doh:
I guess that the number could have been less if I had used a few peco SL-E383F scissor crossings but I chickened out due to wiring complications.

 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 14, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
 :'( How bored am I today?  :worried:
Well Ive just read this thread through from start to finish  :unimpressed:
Now I really am bored. :sorrysign: :sorrysign:  Do members really read this rubbish?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on February 14, 2014, 05:18:17 PM
Oh yes and your ramblings do not bore me at all  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 14, 2014, 08:30:22 PM
Oh yes and your ramblings do not bore me at all  ;)

cheers John.

Me, neither and I'm learning from you, too!  :beers:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 15, 2014, 04:49:10 PM
Woken early by the storms today so hoped I would get a fair days modelling done  ::)
Didn`t start till after 9am but by 9-30 I had taken out a 13" length of track and managed to replace it and stick it down
Fiddled about for 15 minutes or so then had to rest  :(
Rest of the day seems to have been 15-20 work followed by 30 minutes rest. That's not my idea of fun.
At least Ive got all the points fitted now (not wurldesnd) and just three lengths of track to fit in then its on to wiring up droppers  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 16, 2014, 03:18:19 PM
 :doh: Make that 5 length to link up. Never mind the reversing loops now laid, droppered and glued but the two extra length that need sorting are 2 sidings leading off the loop.
 ::) ::) Used my brain cell the other day when scowling at pollifilla  encrusted section of track  and used an old craft knife blade to chip it off. Much remained and some members of a certain age may remember having/using a suede shoe cleaning brush. Its a fin(ish) brass brush a bit like a tooth brush. I checked and ordered one from Mr Amazon which cost me about 2.50 It certainly cleaned some track areas that I tried it on this morning without wrecking the rails or sleepers.
Remember next time--------always cover the track with masking tape before plastering    :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on February 16, 2014, 03:42:57 PM
Just an idea  :idea:

If you take a drinking straw, slit it down its length, then slip it over the rail, it could be slid along the track as you plaster and will not leave any adhesive behind when removed.

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 16, 2014, 03:46:49 PM
Just an idea  :idea:

If you take a drinking straw, slit it down its length, then slip it over the rail, it could be slid along the track as you plaster and will not leave any adhesive behind when removed.

cheers John.
So what do I drink my lemonade through then?
Great idea though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on February 16, 2014, 03:54:43 PM
Just an idea  :idea:

If you take a drinking straw, slit it down its length, then slip it over the rail, it could be slid along the track as you plaster and will not leave any adhesive behind when removed.

cheers John.

So what do I drink my lemonade through then?
Great idea though  :thumbsup:


You will just have to get yourself one of these  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FUN-DRINKING-STRAW-GLASSES-BBQ-HEN-STAG-PARTY-/281196939640?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Make_Up_Cosmetics_Foundation_PP&hash=item4178a4c978 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FUN-DRINKING-STRAW-GLASSES-BBQ-HEN-STAG-PARTY-/281196939640?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Make_Up_Cosmetics_Foundation_PP&hash=item4178a4c978)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 16, 2014, 07:48:01 PM
Just an idea  :idea:

If you take a drinking straw, slit it down its length, then slip it over the rail, it could be slid along the track as you plaster and will not leave any adhesive behind when removed.

cheers John.

So what do I drink my lemonade through then?
Great idea though  :thumbsup:


You will just have to get yourself one of these  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FUN-DRINKING-STRAW-GLASSES-BBQ-HEN-STAG-PARTY-/281196939640?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Make_Up_Cosmetics_Foundation_PP&hash=item4178a4c978[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FUN-DRINKING-STRAW-GLASSES-BBQ-HEN-STAG-PARTY-/281196939640?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Make_Up_Cosmetics_Foundation_PP&hash=item4178a4c978[/url])

cheers John.

 :goggleeyes: :o er-------NO
In fairness the problem was caused when a tube of instant pollifilla burst across the seam below where the cap screws on. ................hence there was liquid pollifilla spurting out in all directions and the areas that still need cleaning out are between the rails on top of the sleepers.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 17, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
Why is it that 2 lengths of flexi always need joining in the most awkward places? Ive got to join 2 halfway round a curve that theres no settrackas for (13.5" radius) and as far from the edge as can be  >:(. (ended up soldering the joiners  out of desperation  :-[ )
Now Ive got them joined I have to trim the far end to length and join it into a set of points. The points have rail joiners fitted already but its a long reach to line it up and fix it. My arms I think are about 4" to short >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ParkeNd on February 18, 2014, 12:20:48 AM
I saw the possibility of this happening when I laid my own track. Didn't think I would cope with it any better than anyone else, and probably a lot worse. So I avoided it altogether. Even Code 55 is so cheap that I decided where I wanted joins rather than trying to screw the last couple of inches out of a piece of flexi. Sometimes this meant only using half of a full piece. But laying the offcuts on one side I found that many of them were long enough to suit the gap between two points for instance - I went to the offcut pile before grabbing a whole new length.

To cope with 10.5" radii for example inside a 12" radius I laid the 12" first and then laid the inside curve a standard distance from it with the little red Peco track gauge - and pinned it down a few inches at a time as I went around the curve. When I reached the point where I had decided I wanted a join then I marked it with a Staedtler fine felt tip marker and cut it with Xuron track cutters. If the front of the rail joint at the start of the curve opened up a fraction I found I could slide the rail up hard against the mating rail by pushing the other end with the flat of a screwdriver.

I think you will find it easier if you don't try to get whole lengths of track down - plan your joins as you go and lose a bit of waste track if you have to.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on February 18, 2014, 07:19:46 AM
Good advice there from ParkeNd and I used a similar method after early struggles with the joins.

The 'offcuts' will come in useful so don't throw anything away!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 18, 2014, 07:40:04 AM
I saw the possibility of this happening when I laid my own track. Didn't think I would cope with it any better than anyone else, and probably a lot worse. So I avoided it altogether. Even Code 55 is so cheap that I decided where I wanted joins rather than trying to screw the last couple of inches out of a piece of flexi. Sometimes this meant only using half of a full piece. But laying the offcuts on one side I found that many of them were long enough to suit the gap between two points for instance - I went to the offcut pile before grabbing a whole new length.

To cope with 10.5" radii for example inside a 12" radius I laid the 12" first and then laid the inside curve a standard distance from it with the little red Peco track gauge - and pinned it down a few inches at a time as I went around the curve. When I reached the point where I had decided I wanted a join then I marked it with a Staedtler fine felt tip marker and cut it with Xuron track cutters. If the front of the rail joint at the start of the curve opened up a fraction I found I could slide the rail up hard against the mating rail by pushing the other end with the flat of a screwdriver.

I think you will find it easier if you don't try to get whole lengths of track down - plan your joins as you go and lose a bit of waste track if you have to.

Exactly how I used Peco Streamline track 30 years ago but I had no Xuron track cutters; just a small hacksaw and a metal file for cleaning up the cut ends. I remember I had a stretch of straight track at the back of the layout made up of multiple short offcuts! (Never caused any running problems, though.)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 18, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
I agree that joining flexi in a curved area isn't a good idea although if a setracker guide can be placed across the join it isn't all that much of a problem and glueing pinning down inch by inch is the answer. unfortunately the existing length of track was glued down and proven sound and it seemed a shame to disturb it.  :worried:
This morning in the cold light of day I put on my thinking cap and within 15 minutes had the whole section joined and glued down. Now its just a case of waiting for the glue to dry. :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 18, 2014, 02:18:34 PM
 >:( My clip-on watchmakers eye glass that is permanently mounted on my spectacles died from old age this morning  :'( Its seen me through many years of fine work  :'( I bet the ones they make nowadays wont last as long.
 :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: Eldest son whose never shown any interest in trains offered to help me lay a couple of lengths of flexi. which was nice of him.
He has now discovered exactly what 'rail joiners fingers' are like :claphappy:
I did warn him before he started :bounce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 19, 2014, 03:14:23 PM
 :hmmm:
Just about to order a GF 08 this morning when the post arrived.
In it was my Visa account---08 will have to wait a month or two  :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 19, 2014, 03:43:13 PM
Sorry to read that, Jon. The GF Class 08 is worth waiting for though.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 19, 2014, 04:50:05 PM
Sorry to read that, Jon. The GF Class 08 is worth waiting for though.
Oh I don't mind waiting really I just fancied getting one now. A couple of months wont make much difference  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 23, 2014, 11:15:06 AM
>:( My clip-on watchmakers eye glass that is permanently mounted on my spectacles died from old age this morning  :'( Its seen me through many years of fine work  :
Believe it or not the cheepo replacement I got clips on the wrong eye.
My 'working eye is my left one so somehow I need to bodge modify this one to fit the left hand arm of my eyeglasses.
Apart from that Ive had a couple of days rest from modelling but hope to restart this coming week  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 23, 2014, 11:31:37 AM
I hope the couple of days R & R have made a difference, Jon, and that the bodge modification is successful :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 23, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
Seconded!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 23, 2014, 02:48:23 PM
>:( My clip-on watchmakers eye glass that is permanently mounted on my spectacles died from old age this morning  :'( Its seen me through many years of fine work  :
Believe it or not the cheepo replacement I got clips on the wrong eye.
My 'working eye' is my left one so somehow I need to bodge modify this one to fit the left hand arm of my eyeglasses.
Apart from that Ive had a couple of days rest from modelling but hope to restart this coming week  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ParkeNd on February 24, 2014, 12:02:38 AM
Sorry to read that, Jon. The GF Class 08 is worth waiting for though.

I second that. Brilliant runner and a useful width gauge too.

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 24, 2014, 08:15:31 AM
Sorry to read that, Jon. The GF Class 08 is worth waiting for though.

I second that. Brilliant runner and a useful width gauge too.

Yes, Chris, that's why I had my BR Blue outside crank Class 08 DCC-fitted ahead of other loco. models: for use as a gauging loco. on my new layout (following advice on this forum). I hope to have pictures of the baseboard for Cant Cove, soon (ahead of schedule) as I wasn't expecting to have it until this Easter.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 27, 2014, 07:20:18 PM
Still having a break .
I will try and get back into thingies next week.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 27, 2014, 07:32:12 PM
Take it easy for now and get back to work on your layout when you're good and ready.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 27, 2014, 08:48:12 PM
Wot Chris said - I worry you've been overdoing it, Jon :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2014, 11:33:09 AM
Wot Chris said - I worry you've been overdoing it, Jon :worried:
Yes I probably have   :( but I`m not someone who can sit around doing nothing.
Even when doing nothing I find ideas and improvements going through my brain cell.  :dunce:
Theres a pair of facing points on the layout that just at the moment I cant see a way of changing but the answer will come to me at some point.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ParkeNd on February 28, 2014, 01:28:21 PM
Wot Chris said - I worry you've been overdoing it, Jon :worried:
Yes I probably have   :( but I`m not someone who can sit around doing nothing.----------------------

SWMBO might have some ideas?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2014, 01:39:57 PM
Wot Chris said - I worry you've been overdoing it, Jon :worried:
Yes I probably have   :( but I`m not someone who can sit around doing nothing.----------------------

SWMBO might have some ideas?
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :worried: she has indeed  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 01, 2014, 02:04:58 PM
Still having a break .
I will try and get back into thingies next week.
:hmmm: So much for that theory  :uneasy: Still I only just sat quietly doing some wiring this morning.  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on March 01, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
When you are sitting "resting", would it be possible to sit and make a small diorama purely for taking pictures of your rolling stock on?

Something you could make on a tray on your knee, that way it would keep your brain focussed on that and not on your layout.

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 01, 2014, 07:23:57 PM
When you are sitting "resting", would it be possible to sit and make a small diorama purely for taking pictures of your rolling stock on?

cheers John.
I shall ponder that idea and wonder if my old snapshot camera is worthy of dioramas  :hmmm:
Just realised that my new 08 loco should be here Monday so maybe I can find something to show that off on  :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 03, 2014, 02:10:45 PM
 :) Slight incentive to pull finger out and get on with things arrived via mr Yodel about 20 minutes ago.
My black BR early emblem Farish 08  :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 05, 2014, 04:50:10 PM
 :claphappy: Managed about an hour and a halves wiring yesterday without feeling any the worse for it but today started off with a check-up trip to thesadis :censored: oops I mean dentist and I felt slightly kernacka :censored: tired after that so today Ive done nothing  :(
Tomorrow? ....who knows but I might do some more wiring etc.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 05, 2014, 04:53:53 PM
Take it easy, John. Any trip to the dentist has an effect on the fittest of us! Glad you were able to get some more wiring done, though.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 05, 2014, 08:39:32 PM
I have to visit the dentist next week to have a wisdom tooth put in :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on March 05, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
I have to visit the dentist next week to have a wisdom tooth put in :confused1:

I don't think they are backward compatible  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 06, 2014, 09:51:02 AM
I have to visit the dentist next week to have a wisdom tooth put in :confused1:

I don't think they are backward compatible  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
They are but only DC. and USB1.
They hope to bring out (or do I mean in ?) DCC and USB3 next year ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 06, 2014, 06:10:48 PM
Hope you've recovered from the dentist, John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 06, 2014, 08:46:27 PM
Gave my 08 a gentle run this afternoon, just to make sure it works (as you do  ;) ) when it lept off the track and nearly ended up on the floor  :doh:
Trouble was theres a narrow section halfway along the track and it lept out of one side.
A good check showed that its a bad length of track due to it being re used from somewhere else.
The whole length (about 11") looks ,iffy, so its now an ex-piece of track and as the bed dosnt look special the whole thing is getting replaced with all 100% new track and track bed.
Give me something to do tomorrow
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on March 06, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
Gave my 08 a gentle run this afternoon, just to make sure it works (as you do  ;) ) when it lept off the track and nearly ended up on the floor  :doh:


I bet that raised the blood pressure a tad  :D

Good to hear it did not fall from a great height though  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 06, 2014, 09:14:20 PM
Ouch! Please, put a protective edging of some kind around the layout to prevent having a heart attack! Very glad that your Class 08 did not plunge to destruction, John!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 07, 2014, 04:27:58 PM
 :) replaced the bad track section this morning and its now being glued down in small lengths at a time so theres little stress and tendency to spring straight again.
The edge will be guarded when all else is finished (probably with the ideas given by Newport nobby in the Kimberbolt thread. We have need to visit B&Q next week if the weathers good so will add Perspex to the shopping list. Till then a length of ply clamped to the layouts side will be the answer
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 07, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
Excellent, John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 10, 2014, 09:47:51 AM
 :( Not the best of weekends but never mind.
Saturday I managed a bit of wiring and semi fitted an extra set of points in the station area and intended to finish it off last night. Sunday I had planned to make an effort and get to the Basingstoke MR exhibition. Decided that we would go in the afternoon and hope it wasn't too crowded.
By the time lunch was cleared and washed up we had company arrive  >:(
They did leave by 3-30 which left us 30 minutes for a 15 minute drive to the exhibition before it closed at 4.
Needless to say we didn't go again this year  :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 12, 2014, 09:59:03 AM
 :( Monday was a day resting and just thinking but yesterday I got on and added another set of points and a siding.
Its starting to look like I might have a rail depot with a small country station attached rather than an obsolete mainline station with a couple of sidings.
Theres still a bucket full of droppers to add and wire in but I will do that as and when I feel up to it. Then and only then I will disconnect my old GF controller and connect up my DCC one (several months later than I had hoped to  :( )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 12, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Happy to read about your steady progress, John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 12, 2014, 04:11:47 PM
Wasted trip to B&(spit)Q this afternoon.
We needed 2 lengths of treated wood to sort out broken fence panel, some Perspex to stop locos leaping down onto the floor and some seeds/plants etc to pacify SWMBO.
Timber we got having searched through the loose banana shaped lengths and got an assistant to break into a 8 pack bundle so we could find two straight lengths.
Perspex cost an arm and a leg because they only had big sheets.
Plants wernt in stock >:D
I spotted some aerosol  day-glow paints in day-glow green, red and yellow (they had run out of blue) and I wanted to buy one of each to spray my DCC locos and auto coaches but was overruled for some unknown reason  :'( I though they would add some nice bright colours to the layout.
Oh well such is life   :whistle:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 13, 2014, 02:15:39 PM
Further disappointment yesterday when I contacted a L/pool model shop  :( I saw in their mailshot that arrived last week that they could when  fit DCC to most locos before dispatching them  obviously at extra cost but it is a reasonable cost. As I wanted a class 57 in WWR livery I phoned and asked them for the total cost but was then informed that the DCC fitting applied to 00 gauge only and they couldn't help me as I require  N gauge (obviously)  :'(
Anyway I gave in and ordered one during the evening in DC.
Where I planned to use a Perspex side panel to save locos going floor direction Ive decided to us an old girder bridge side as a crash barrier along the layout edge. Will be sorting that out in a few minutes.
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2014, 04:35:46 PM

Where I planned to use a Perspex side panel to save locos going floor direction Ive decided to us an old girder bridge side as a crash barrier along the layout edge. Will be sorting that out in a few minutes.

Look forward to seeing a pic, please, Jon :camera:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 15, 2014, 11:54:14 AM
Works started on the girder 'crash barrier' but that's a semi long term project.
Wired through 7 pairs of droppers this morning but still need to solder them at both ends  :'(
That should amuse me for most of the afternoon.  :help:  Trouble is there are about 3 pairs needed along the back and they will be a right :censored: to lean across to do unless I lift off 'wuldsend' and wire them in via that section of the power bus. :-\
To cheer me up my GWR class 57 has just arrived by post :claphappy: so I may be forced to play trains at some point today
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on March 15, 2014, 11:59:27 AM
so I may be forced to play trains at some point today

My heart goes out to you Jon, having to haul yourself away from soldering duties to the toil of running in a new loco, it must be torture  :D

Have fun  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 15, 2014, 01:41:30 PM

To cheer me up my GWR class 57 has just arrived by post :claphappy: so I may be forced to play trains at some point today

But it's just soooooo therapeutic :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 15, 2014, 01:59:58 PM
Fully understood. 8-)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 15, 2014, 02:12:34 PM
so I may be forced to play trains at some point today

My heart goes out to you Jon, having to haul yourself away from soldering duties to the toil of running in a new loco, it must be torture  :D

Have fun  ;)

cheers John.
Yes it`s going to be pure hell but to lectify the track Ive got to do most of the soldering 1st  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on March 15, 2014, 02:15:55 PM
so I may be forced to play trains at some point today

My heart goes out to you Jon, having to haul yourself away from soldering duties to the toil of running in a new loco, it must be torture  :D

Have fun  ;)

cheers John.
Yes it`s going to be pure hell but to lectify the track Ive got to do most of the soldering 1st  :'( :'(

Ah! Sods Law coming into effect  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 15, 2014, 02:49:40 PM
so I may be forced to play trains at some point today

My heart goes out to you Jon, having to haul yourself away from soldering duties to the toil of running in a new loco, it must be torture  :D

Have fun  ;)

cheers John.
Yes it`s going to be pure hell but to lectify the track Ive got to do most of the soldering 1st  :'( :'(

Ah! Sods Law coming into effect  :sorrysign:
Sods Law is one of the 5s isn't it? :-\
All the droppers that I sweated over to wire in this  morning are now soldered to the rails (wouldn't win any prizes for soldering but I intend to tidy all the soldering up once its all proved and DCC- ified )
Break for a cuppa now then back to work. Its so hot from the sun in the railway room that I shall have to resort to wearing just my mankini to work in there  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 15, 2014, 05:02:27 PM
Its so hot from the sun in the railway room that I shall have to resort to wearing just my mankini to work in there  :)

For some reason my dinner has just lost its appeal :sick2:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 15, 2014, 07:26:34 PM
 
Its so hot from the sun in the railway room that I shall have to resort to wearing just my mankini to work in there  :)

For some reason my dinner has just lost its appeal :sick2:
:laugh3: :laugh3: :laughabovepost: :o :laugh2: Of course if your really that interested I could always get SWMBO to take my picture wearing it and post it here.
 :doh: :doh: Ive just remembered all the pictures of me wearing  it are copyright  :scowl:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on March 15, 2014, 08:38:25 PM
:doh: :doh: Ive just remembered all the pictures of me wearing  it are copyright  :scowl:

Such a let down for our female membership  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 16, 2014, 11:53:29 AM
 :veryangry: :censored: :censored: Just spent close on an hour looking for a short circuit. Eventually found that some stupid  :censored: had fitted a metal rail joiner where it should have been a IRJ on a set of points.
Of course it was in the most awkward place possible so rather than lift 4 sets of points I cut through the joint and glued in a plasticard shim and all seems to be well, but why didn't that show up as I was soldering/testing yesterday?
I think that I have spotted another one with the same problem but its not wired in yet so if it is faulty it will get the plasticard treatment again  :slap: 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 16, 2014, 04:50:40 PM
Out of interest, Jon, did the plastikard insertion allow you a smaller gap than those created by the IRJs? Thank you.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 17, 2014, 07:39:20 PM
Out of interest, Jon, did the plastikard insertion allow you a smaller gap than those created by the IRJs? Thank you.
To cut the joiner out made a wider gap than the IRJ would  have done but  saved me a lot of time and work. I`m guessing that the gap was twice as wide as the IRJ and is held in by 5 minute poxy resin glue.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 17, 2014, 07:46:46 PM
 Took things easy this morning ready to get on with the wiring after  lunch then had a change of plan and spent the afternoon preparing fencing ad trellis work ready to fit next weekend. Only snag being that its 6foot  by 4 foot 1:1 scale :worried: fencing to replace storm damage from the winter.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 18, 2014, 02:05:02 PM
Fair bit of swatting up on DCC lectrics this morning and plodded on with the board wiring. Had  to strip out my 1983 GF class 57 and found that the brushes and the pickups  are worn out so  got to contact BR lines for some new ones soon, or I might just use it as a space filler somewhere in the layout. Its not DCC anyway and I suspect that converting it would be a waste of money.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: 60156 Great Central on March 18, 2014, 03:47:52 PM
good dummy unit for double headers or being dragged to the works? :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 18, 2014, 04:02:16 PM
good dummy unit for double headers or being dragged to the works? :)
Maybe but alongside/behind the new  Dapol one ive just bought it looks prehistoric .
I,m thinking more of getting my old pre 1990 locos and building a small simple layout for the grandkids.That way I have an excuse to keep some stock DC
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 18, 2014, 04:38:16 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: just managed to fit in 4 new roppers and soldered them to the rails. Now I have a short ciruit again even though the new droppers arnt soldered to the bus yet which means that something I had proved before has now failed. !st obvious place to check was the points in case any had metal joiners where they should be IRJ and they are all ok. Will ponder things for an hour or so then check again
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on March 18, 2014, 06:29:13 PM
:veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: just managed to fit in 4 new roppers and soldered them to the rails. Now I have a short ciruit again even though the new droppers arnt soldered to the bus yet

Are any of the new dangling droppers touching and causing the short?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 18, 2014, 07:00:45 PM
:veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: just managed to fit in 4 new roppers and soldered them to the rails. Now I have a short ciruit again even though the new droppers arnt soldered to the bus yet

Are any of the new dangling droppers touching and causing the short?
Thanks for  the question but I checked that already.
It may be a bad length of twin core wire that I used for spurs off of the  power bus. I seem to remember having problems with another (now discarded) length a while ago.
To be honest it will have to wait till the morning when I can look at it in a fresh light
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 18, 2014, 07:17:27 PM
I REALLY am NOT looking forward to soldering wires and droppers but as Cant Cove has a three-way point I simply will not be able to avoid dealing with 'electrickery' unless I persuade a more skilled friend to do all my soldering and wiring for me! (Actually only half a day's work for a professional as Cant Cove is pretty simple: a single track mainline with passing loop and siding, a station yard, a branch and a fiddle yard.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ColinH on March 18, 2014, 08:08:59 PM
:veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: just managed to fit in 4 new roppers and soldered them to the rails. Now I have a short ciruit again even though the new droppers arnt soldered to the bus yet which means that something I had proved before has now failed. !st obvious place to check was the points in case any had metal joiners where they should be IRJ and they are all ok. Will ponder things for an hour or so then check again

You have my sympathy. Hope you get it sorted. Have a problem with an intermittent short of my own at the moment but stayed away from the layout today as other things had to be done. Will have another look at it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 18, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
I hope that you will both be able to sort out the problems, tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 19, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
  Having checked just about every inch of the track and all my wiring I was left none the wiser as to where the problem was.  :goggleeyes: Apart from some dirty spots it all seemed fine sooooooooooooooo....................... :whiteflag: I had lunch and a break and went back to exploring for a second time today. :whistle:
:idea: :idea: Check the contacts at the back of the controller  :smackedface: :smackedface: Oh dear a couple of hair like  strands of wire were sticking out on one terminal and tickling the other terminal. :-[ :-[ Why had I not checked that earlier especially as I know that the controller had been knocked of its perch and ended up on the floor when someone caught the cable when hoovering
PS I  don't do hoovering so not to blame although it was my fault for leaving the cable where a hoover was bound to go  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ColinH on March 19, 2014, 03:28:02 PM
Glad you got it sorted Jon. Multistrand wires can be a pain but all the advice you read is that it is the best and not to solder the ends that will go into a screw thread as it reduces the screws gripping ability.

Damned if you and damned if you don't.

PS just tell the cleaner to be more careful with the vac next time or you will be making a deduction from her salary for time wasted. It is her responsibility to ensure that anything that is in the way or liable to be damaged should be cleared away before the vac is introduced in to the area.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 19, 2014, 03:53:41 PM
Glad you got it sorted Jon. Multistrand wires can be a pain but all the advice you read is that it is the best and not to solder the ends that will go into a screw thread as it reduces the screws gripping ability.

Damned if you and damned if you don't.

PS just tell the cleaner to be more careful with the vac next time or you will be making a deduction from her salary for time wasted. It is her responsibility to ensure that anything that is in the way or liable to be damaged should be cleared away before the vac is introduced in to the area.  :o :o :o
'salary` what salary? :o  :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Shaun Harvey on March 19, 2014, 10:27:44 PM
Speaking of rule one...guess what I did tonight....... I ran some trains the wrong direction on both lines......I know....crazy aren't I....rule one or what! :laugh:

Shaun
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ColinH on March 19, 2014, 11:05:54 PM
They always do different in Norfolk.

Don't ask how I know  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 20, 2014, 09:29:02 AM
Speaking of rule one...guess what I did tonight....... I ran some trains the wrong direction on both lines......I know....crazy aren't I....rule one or what! :laugh:

Shaun
:doh: That's discusting.  :laughabovepost:
 :angel: I  at least ran my new 08 both ways around the parts of the loop that is now 'lectrified which means I only followed rule 1 to a minor extent  ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 21, 2014, 09:37:39 PM
 :) Onwards and upwards today.
A change of tack saw me lift off `wurldsend' from the layout and me working from the back. This meant far less long reaching over or under the layout.
 I`m not so tired from over reaching as I normally but I am still taking breaks regularly
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 22, 2014, 06:31:47 AM
Glad that you're making progress, John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 24, 2014, 11:44:00 AM
 :confused1: I`m sat here slightly confused. Ive done a fair amount of dropper wiring over the last few days an had a bit of a tidy up to  find areas that still need doing before I can run locos round at least one loop. Regardless of that I decided to just run my new GF 08 along the area that I know should be ok ish. Of course it will stop near the rear of the layout because I need to finish the droppers there and clean the track. Would it do as I asked......... >:(  not a chance, it  just plodded onwards as I sat mesmerised and bemused especially as it went past me  for the third time without hesitation.  :o :o
I think I need to finish tidying up and see where else the magic is working.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on March 24, 2014, 06:04:23 PM
Sounds like you've forgotten an IRJ or two so the current is getting to those parts where you didn't think it would get to.   :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 25, 2014, 09:53:51 AM
Sounds like you've forgotten an IRJ or two so the current is getting to those parts where you didn't think it would get to.   :)
Could be that or I am over droppering but whichever it is I am wiring for DCC although I am testing everything by DC. My 2 latest locos are DC but I will probably get them chipped if I  get on ok with DCC  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 25, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
.... and now for a complete change I shall try and post a few snaps that I took earlier.
A warning though.
They arnt very good. I blame the cheap camera

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0144.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0144.jpg.html)
Not DCC but the Dapol 57 is a newbie

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0140.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0140.jpg.html)
A nightmare getting these points right as they are very slightly at the beginning of an incline

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/d4768105-051b-49f9-a00b-136cf3a98058.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/d4768105-051b-49f9-a00b-136cf3a98058.jpg.html)
The bedlam end of the board complete with  two 00-9 points to get the right geometry



(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0148.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0148.jpg.html)
Power bus brought to the surface (easier to add droppers etc. will vanish back below the board once all is complete) the switch is for the reversing loop but will be replaced by a module once DCC is up and running

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0145.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0145.jpg.html)
One DCC chipped and the other a dummy
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0147.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0147.jpg.html)
 all  3 DCC  2 of them Dapols and the shunter is a Bachmann.

At this point the camera batteries died but I will recharge and try again My GF08 came out very blurred so I havnt got a picture of that yet :(

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 25, 2014, 04:35:06 PM
One snag I found yesterday was with the 1983wagon I use with a Noch track cleaner hanging below it. It ran fine behind my 08 but stopped dead or leapt off whenever it got to a 00-9 set of points. I found out that not only was the back to back setting way up the creek but it was running on plastic wheels and axles also the flanges on the wheels were to thick so I removed them and replaced with metal running gear and all is well. That wagon had always been a pain in the   :censored: but I had got over it by loading it with lead scraps till it behaved itself.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 26, 2014, 09:34:42 AM
Realising just how small my DCC stock of locos is I`m going to have to order a couple more.  :bounce: :bounce:
1 is going to be a Dapol Fairburn and the other yet to be decided but likely to be a small.
 















Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 26, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
As my backs a bit sore (understatement) today I decided to start scratch building a tool  box for my shunters running wagon so looked up the tutorials to see if there is any advice. Im pleased I did because I spotted an item which said that EP does a 3D print ready made box so that's saved me a job  :thumbsup:
Tomorrow/Friday we are going to get some wood and fencing trellis so whilst there I intend to look at insulation board and thin plywood so I can plan out and start on my scenery at last. Ive still got all my buildings from my previous layout so I shall be incorporating most of those
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on March 29, 2014, 12:03:52 AM
It's nice to see you seem to have got through your wiring gremlins. I had similar problems with my layout,loads of shorts were  caused by the switches on my live frog point's not working.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 29, 2014, 09:40:31 AM
It's nice to see you seem to have got through your wiring gremlins. I had similar problems with my layout,loads of shorts were  caused by the switches on my live frog point's not working.
I`m quite happy to be on this side of that problem.
I now only wire up 1 set of points then check for shorts before moving on to the next set. Its surprising how easily one can miss a potential short till it actually happens  :-[
Ive only got the fiddle yard/terminus station are to wire in now.
First though I need to run in all my locos and sort out if any need returning to the manufacturer 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 29, 2014, 10:02:25 AM
Thanks for this excellent tip: "I now only wire up 1 set of points then check for shorts before moving on to the next set."
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 29, 2014, 03:54:45 PM
 :doh: I`m one of the first to acknowledge that a track has to be eased up over a fair distance into an incline so I have to admit that I was somewhat shocked earlier when having wired up the inner circuit on the layout I found that although my 0-6-0 tankers coped with the transition from flat to incline with no problems my new fairburn nearly stalled with driving wheels spinning until I eased the rail joints at the problem spots even more than I had originally.
Still  its given me an excuse to thoroughly run the faiburn in when travelling in both directions with very satisfactory results  :claphappy: :claphappy: 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on March 29, 2014, 04:47:20 PM
Still  its given me an excuse to thoroughly run the faiburn in when travelling in both directions with very satisfactory results  :claphappy: :claphappy: 

You seem to be very good at making these excuses  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 29, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
Still  its given me an excuse to thoroughly run the faiburn in when travelling in both directions with very satisfactory results  :claphappy: :claphappy: 

You seem to be very good at making these excuses  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:

cheers John.
The truth is that with my  breathing problems I can sit down and run locos whilst my breathing returns to what is deemed normal and then do a bit more of something
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on March 29, 2014, 11:40:23 PM
Problem with my shorts is they were working, after testing, a few weeks later they seemed to stop working and with all the track wired together has one section it was hard to find the fault. I changed my layout pulling up part of the track and fitted insul joiners and split it into two sections ie Down/Up lines. It was then easier to find the faults, I now have four PSX circuit breakers one for each section plus two reverse units.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 30, 2014, 07:32:00 AM
Thanks for the info., Lil Chris. I think I will not permanently fix down any of my track until I'm 100% sure that all the 'electrickery' is working properly. I thought DCC meant no Insulating Rail Joints, in general, but, now, I'm having second thoughts.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on March 30, 2014, 08:51:21 AM
I've used these and found them a quick way of splitting track sections for testing (and fixing!)

http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/camdenboss-pluggable-terminal-strips-63850/ (http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/camdenboss-pluggable-terminal-strips-63850/)

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 31, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
I've used these and found them a quick way of splitting track sections for testing (and fixing!)

[url]http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/camdenboss-pluggable-terminal-strips-63850/[/url] ([url]http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/camdenboss-pluggable-terminal-strips-63850/[/url])

Dave G

Ive got a strip of those but some members have said that they become loose and unreliable in time. My `wurldend' section is connected by those and they seem ok to me.
 An interrupted weekend of visitors  overran into today so I didn't get much done.
In between whiles I was able to finish off soldering in the main are so that only leaves me the fiddleyard/terminus to do now.
Running locos over the last few days has brought to light one of two iffy joints and crossings but I think they are all sorted out now.
Next comes the scenery which is still in a planning stage to some extent. Ive been stockpiling expanded polystyrene blocks for a while now and have ordered myself a hot foam cutter. (I used a knife on one bit the other day and the look I got from SWMBO  when she saw the mess spoke volumes) :(
Once Ive  got the topography basically r right I can try the buildings etc that I have already in place.
I`m totally ignoring 'wurdsend'  until the main board etc is up and DCC running.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 01, 2014, 08:08:37 AM
I found a hot foam cutter on eBay, is this what you mean, John:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Amati-Professional-Hot-Wire-Polystyrene-Foam-Cutter-801-/321350737714 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Amati-Professional-Hot-Wire-Polystyrene-Foam-Cutter-801-/321350737714)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 01, 2014, 09:25:29 AM
Same principal but I went for
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CORDLESS-HOT-WIRE-POLYSTYRENE-FOAM-CUTTER-WITH-EASY-CHANGE-WIRE-/310748906292?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item485a140334 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CORDLESS-HOT-WIRE-POLYSTYRENE-FOAM-CUTTER-WITH-EASY-CHANGE-WIRE-/310748906292?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item485a140334)
It seemed more versatile to me. I don't think the link Ive posted is the same firm as I ordered from but its the same item.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 01, 2014, 10:10:08 AM
Thanks, John, for the quick reply. That's the one I'll order then. I'll have plenty of insulation foam blocks to cut and shape.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 01, 2014, 10:15:26 AM
Thanks, John, for the quick reply. That's the one I'll order then. I'll have plenty of insulation foam blocks to cut and shape.
Wow up  ??? Ive not received it yet and it may be a heap of junk so why not wait till Ive tested mine out before ordering yours. Then I cant be blamed for misleading someone
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 01, 2014, 10:22:32 AM
Thanks, John. Don't worry, I've nor ordered it, yet, and am happy to wait for feedback from you.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 01, 2014, 02:50:08 PM
My foam cutter arrived this morning whilst I was having a regular 'chat' with my GP who it seems is fairly pleased with my condition.
I found that even using  the cutter for the first time resulted in a pleasant result ....will improve with practice I`m certain.
Will put a few comments in 'Gizmos and Tools' in a few minutes  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 01, 2014, 03:21:38 PM
Good news X 3 then! 8-) Doctor, Foam Cutter, and Review.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 01, 2014, 03:49:19 PM
I'm sure I don't need to advise you to wear a face mask, Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 01, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
I'm sure I don't need to advise you to wear a face mask, Jon

Excellent point. Do you have any recommendations? I had better order one, myself.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 01, 2014, 03:56:50 PM
I'm sure I don't need to advise you to wear a face mask, Jon
Ive got grandkids that beg me to wear a mask27/7 so that I wont scare them.  :(
I didn't wear one today when I was fiddling with it mainly so I could see just how bad the fumes were. They actually were very few but I do take your point and shall 'mask up' whenever I`m using it
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on April 01, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
Thanks for the info., Lil Chris. I think I will not permanently fix down any of my track until I'm 100% sure that all the 'electrickery' is working properly. I thought DCC meant no Insulating Rail Joints, in general, but, now, I'm having second thoughts.
Don't forget if you are using live frog points you still need insulated joiners on the two frog rails, because when you change the point the frog needs to change polarity.
 If you are using insul frogs forget what I have just said.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 01, 2014, 08:19:02 PM
Thanks for the info., Lil Chris. I think I will not permanently fix down any of my track until I'm 100% sure that all the 'electrickery' is working properly. I thought DCC meant no Insulating Rail Joints, in general, but, now, I'm having second thoughts.
Don't forget if you are using live frog points you still need insulated joiners on the two frog rails, because when you change the point the frog needs to change polarity.
 If you are using insul frogs forget what I have just said.

Thanks, Chris, for that valuable info.  :thankyousign: This is getting worse. I have all Peco Code 55 Electrofrog points (including a three-way one) with just one more to buy (plus track). So, I will need far more IRJs then than i was counting on. 8-(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 02, 2014, 04:23:35 PM
Taking my time today I started building a Ratio goods shed and a cattle dock. Mainly I`m just after being able to physically see the footprint of both of them. I doubt whether I shall carry on and paint and build them now but it gives me something to layout in position.
Mrs JC raided our potting shed earlier and found a few biggish  bits of dirty expanded polystyrene that she has donated to my countryside structure.
Once this foreign pollution scare has passed we will go out and see  if we can find/beg/steal any packs of ceiling tiles or 1"  insulation board. That shopping trip will include certain fencing timbers and trellis that will have to be installed very soon, which will take me away from modelling  :hmmm: 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 02, 2014, 09:54:02 PM
I found that even using  the cutter for the first time resulted in a pleasant result

Is it any good on cheese  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 03, 2014, 09:53:17 AM
I found that even using  the cutter for the first time resulted in a pleasant result

Is it any good on cheese  :hmmm:
Of course it is. You just put a slab of cheese on a slice of bread, run the cutter through it and end up with cheese on toast or an irate SMBO :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 03, 2014, 11:07:37 AM
Is it any good on cheese  :hmmm:

I'll wager it's not a patch on brown sauce :food:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 05, 2014, 02:06:03 PM
Fiddling about painting the goods shed shell this morning. Found that the best way to get the effect (clapped out) that I wanted was to use a finger tip moistened with paint and rub it over the brick surface. Now I need a quick way of getting grey paint out from under fingernails.  :dunce:
For some reason I don't seem in a modelling mood this week  :( Are there any tablets I can take to cure that ?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 05, 2014, 04:51:06 PM

For some reason I don't seem in a modelling mood this week  :( Are there any tablets I can take to cure that ?

I think the solution might lie with a session of playing testing trains, Jon :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 07, 2014, 10:03:32 AM
Last week (or the week before) I realised that I could add another siding (although a short one) in the piddle ooops :-[ in the fiddle yard for a resting shunter. Then I forgot about it because I needed a curved right-hand point and only  had a left-hand one 'in stock'.
Ive ordered one now so with luck I can finish that area off tomorrow. Once that's done and droppers wired everything but dropping the bus connections back through the board ,filling in the big holes and hooking up DCC and start a long learning curve again........ and of course working on the scenery.  :claphappy: :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on April 07, 2014, 09:35:03 PM
Good for you hope your still having fun
 :claphappy:  :bounce: :bounce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 09, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
 :confused1: Sooooooo that one set of points must have played on my mind during the night because in the morning I spotted a length of track where I could add another siding without encroaching on the scenic area. That means more lifting track  :doh:  (quite easy in this case) and putting in the extra set of points + all the extra wiring that involves. Stops me getting bored I guess
Just ordered a batch of  Fleischmann buffer stops, and my fingers slipped and I ordered a Fleischmann track cleaning loco in DCC at the same time  :hmmm:
(items 22216 and 796882 both from Osborns)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
Fleischmann buffer stops, John? Don't think like too 'continental'?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 09, 2014, 04:01:15 PM
Fleischmann buffer stops, John? Don't think like too 'continental'?
Personally I think they are vastly better than the Peco ones and it has to be remembered that my layout is a Rule 1 layout so as I like them..I will have them
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 09, 2014, 04:43:19 PM
Thanks, John. Yes, indeed, it's your layout and Rule One applies.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 10, 2014, 11:27:07 AM
 :veryangry: Kernacke. I mean wrecked the extra set of  points that I installed yesterday but I had 2 spare ones on order so I am sat here waiting for Mr Postman to deliver them.Ive got the track and area all prepared for the replacement and have taken steps so that I don't get anywhere near the point ( :doh: pun not intended) where I wrecked yesterdays work.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 11, 2014, 04:30:41 PM
Ive been getting fed up with seeing the white expances of  Pollifilla on the layout. It hits me as I open the door and I just cant take it any mor so this morning the 1st thing I did was grab a paint brust and a bottle of  'Forrest floor' paint and spread it over every white plastered area I could find. Its only a very basic covering but at least its no longer white  :claphappy:
The box of 10 Fleischmann buffer stops arrived in the post as did the replacement points so a quick inspection of the buffers proved that they look rather good and then on to installing (with great care) the points.
 As with the points that I broke the replacements decided to  fight me in exactly the same way  :doh: This time though I won and at last the fiddleyard/terminous area is sorted apart from a couple or so droppers. I`ll do that tomorrow once all the glue holding the track is fully hardened.
.............Then I can enjoy playi.. testing track alterations and running in some stock :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 11, 2014, 05:31:11 PM
Excellent, John. Good to read that.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 13, 2014, 02:57:18 PM
 :claphappy: Fun morning doing a bit oif a tidy up and then a good scrub round (the track I mean with a peco rail block and then a wipe round with some Tomix track cleaning fluid) (The fumes from IPA nearly kill me  :veryangry: ); then broke out a couple of old locos and ran then round the layout--between servicing and cleaning them. A few niggly little annoyances with things like loose rail joiners, gaps between rails and lumps of crud still attached to bits of track but its stating to really come together. Ive even put my soldering iron etc back into cold store. Probably as I run stock I`ll  find a few small bumps and problems but they can be sorted easily (I hope). Nothings going on the rails with pizza cutter bogies and every axle is checked for B2B measurements (I recon about 30% of my stock was never checked when it was made  >:( )
Now for a sit down and a nice cuppa   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 13, 2014, 06:27:33 PM
but its stating to really come together.

Really pleased to hear that, John. After all your efforts it should be time to relax a little :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 14, 2014, 04:02:08 PM
but its stating to really come together.

 time to relax a little :thumbsup:

I wish >:( This fine warm weather is just right for putting the fence panels up outside again now that we have sawn them down to length. :-X ) Ones done now and I`m told we can tidy that area up tomorrow  :censored:
Ran tested a loco and 2 coaches round the layout this morning and found just one set of points that regardless of how well I scraped  and washed then would not carry a current up the rail. Turns out it was a speck of cork jamming the blade open about 1.5 mm. Hooked that out and all is well. Im now pushing all the wiring I had been doing into the bus above board back down the black holes and filling them in so no wiring is showing, its just hanging down about 2" beneath the board and will be tidied up one the board is on its side to fit the seeps and wiring them in  :help:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 16, 2014, 09:31:10 AM
 :worried: Chests a bit bad again so progress will be slow because I dare not do anything involving 'stinking' glues or dust etc
Working out my control panel dimensions for the DCC unit, point switches ,power pack,CDU etc... All to be housed in a sliding draw below board level.  :hmmm:
Shant start on a mimic board till all the point motors are installed and working (August/ Sept ish)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 16, 2014, 09:55:58 AM
Hope you're feeling better soon, John :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Railwaygun on April 16, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
ve been getting fed up with seeing the white expances of  Pollifilla on the layout. It hits me as I open the door and I just cant take it any mor so this morning the 1st thing I did was grab a paint brust and a bottle of  'Forrest floor' paint and spread it over every white plastered area I could find. Its only a very basic covering but at least its no longer white 

try mixing brown acrylic with any new polyfilla before applying, - then when it chips, it is still brown!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 16, 2014, 03:34:38 PM
ve been getting fed up with seeing the white expances of  Pollifilla on the layout. It hits me as I open the door and I just cant take it any mor so this morning the 1st thing I did was grab a paint brust and a bottle of  'Forrest floor' paint and spread it over every white plastered area I could find. Its only a very basic covering but at least its no longer white 

try mixing brown acrylic with any new polyfilla before applying, - then when it chips, it is still brown!
Many thanks. I shall follow that advice fairly soon but at the moment Im using quick drying pollifilla from a couple of tubes I bought some time ago
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 17, 2014, 08:23:12 PM
I think the latest round of anti bios are kicking in a bit and I want to slowly get on with things :-\
Stuck a few lumps of polystyrene together this morning with 1/2 hour drying wood adhesive. Of course after 3/4 of an hour I wanted to carve it into shape  :worried:. Well Ive got a 3/4 full face spray painting mask so put that on and warmed up the foam carver. It worked a treat but my use of it needs practice.
Anyway I coated the whole thing in pollifilla evening out ridges and dents before painting with base coat forrest floor and PVA mix.
Started to make a ply backing plate for it as it sits right at the edge of the layout.  I am hoping to keep all raised bits like this loose so I can lift them onto a small table to work on in the future (and play trains whilst I do it.  ;)  )
Now Im kern exhausted and taking a rest  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 18, 2014, 03:16:39 PM
 :doh: Got started early this morning as both grandkids and parents were coming to lunch. By 9-45 I had done some more to the scenic and cleaned up all  the odds and ends of wire etc on the board. Lunch wasn't going to be till 12 and knowing the junior mob they wouldn't get here till about 12-30 ::)  so I had plenty of time to 'do things'..............
ok ok so I mean test the track cleanliness and power continuity etc etc (ie play trains for a while  ;)  )
10-25 we were invaded  :worried:.I beat a hasty retreat from the train room changed and went down to meet them.
10-45 the kids wanted to go for a walk to see the ducks on the village pond.
A bit of quick putting away of modelling knives etc and I was ready for their return and a nice hot lunch.
The 2 parents and the little 15 month old went home leaving us with 3 year old Thomas. He is a Thomas the Tank engine fan and often shows me his wooden train set soooooooooooooooo I thought to intrest him he could just for once and only for a few minutes see granddads train set if if he promised to be good.
Well it seems I am doing things right but the trains run to slowly and need to have rests to often +if they stop you have to 'shove them' a bit >:(
5 locos and mixed rolling stock later I called a halt as someone was getting over exited and Uncle David was having a job restraining him.
Ive  got to finish the whole thing before he comes over again in about a weeks time  :doh: because there isn't even a station yet!!
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
SWMBO has now taken him home and probably still hearing that he wants to go back and play  with Grumpy Grampys train set  :o
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 18, 2014, 09:05:41 PM
My 1st foam and scenic piece is coming on ok but is very light so I have decided to bury a couple of 3"(?)  nails in the base and cover them over just to weight  it down incase breeze catches it from an open window.. (or a 3year old finger knocks it  :worried:)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 19, 2014, 02:01:25 AM
Surely this must all help to get SWMBO on your side, as you are building a public service which is especially liked by your grandson?
On the other hand, you may be being cursed by Uncle David as he may feel he has to build a layout now :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 19, 2014, 09:13:41 AM
My 1st foam and scenic piece is coming on ok but is very light so I have decided to bury a couple of 3"(?)  nails in the base and cover them over just to weight  it down incase breeze catches it from an open window.. (or a 3year old finger knocks it  :worried:)
Sorted  :thumbsup: It now has an 8mm steel nut embedded in it with pollifilla and glue  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 19, 2014, 08:05:33 PM
 :( Chicken and egg situation here
1.......... I need to couple in my DCC controller etc etc.
2..... I need somewhere to put it safely
So..... 2 must come before 1  :(
There is no 2 at present  :doh: That will only come when 3 is completed to some extent  :doh:
3......Build draw for controllers etc from recycled kitchen cabinet shelves which leads to 4
4.. build a slide unit fitted under the layout to take 1-2-3
At the same time whist glue dries build a narrow hump backed road bridge for layout to satisfy grandson.
Q. for experts only
Why  can you only get  :censored: hot glue to put through glue  guns?
I think I have been burnt about 6 times today.
They should make a cool version
All in all not a bad day but a roundy roundy one whilst sorting next steps out
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on April 19, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
They do make a cool version but it will still burn you if you don't let it cool for a couple of minutes
Graham
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 21, 2014, 04:32:02 PM
Its been nearly 2 days and Ive little to nothing to show for it apart from a couple of piles of pieces with glue drying or awaiting the other pile of glue drying :worried:
Managed to get a narrow hump back bridge together with peco sides / plywood inserts and balsa wood and it now awaits ramps to each end and painting.
Fitted my DCC controller-powerpack and CDU inside the 'control draw'. Now I need to build in 2 row of 7 point motor switches and if possible a couple of  Lenz L11150 LS150 Point module decoder 6 outputs for use in the distant future.
Hope the Faller station arrives soon before the lad comes over demanding it :( --------all I need now is some paint for it.
Sat here with my hands covered with a skin of dried glue and filler but its been worth it so far.
I might even dig the camera out tomorrow  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 21, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
Put a few figures by the station location with banners and tell him you are waiting for the public inquiry to finish 8)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 22, 2014, 09:31:11 AM
Put a few figures by the station location with banners and tell him you are waiting for the public inquiry to finish 8)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:  :thumbsup: Just what I need on this dull wet morning
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 23, 2014, 04:11:05 PM
 :worried: Be afraid .........in fact be very afraid the stupid questions and the frustrations  are about to start  :worried:
I got the control board draw usable though far from finished and respectable and then..............................
 :doh: I put the GM Prodigy Advanced gear inside it. I even have it cobble connected up and plugged into the national grid and at the other end the track via the powerbus.
All I need now is the courage to turn the power on and make it do things.
It means the thousand and one silly questions I shall need to ask start here  :sorrysign: in advance
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 23, 2014, 05:10:29 PM
Any celeb booked for "The Great Switch On", Jon?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 23, 2014, 06:53:27 PM
Any celeb booked for "The Great Switch On", Jon?
:-[ Yes  :-[ I`m booking the fire and rescue crews just in case.  :-[
Decided to go back to scenic modelling tomorrow and make a bit of progress with that.
The ratio goods shed needs the glazing and doors  fitted and then that can be finished. Also hoping the station kit comes tomorrow so I can start kit bashing that
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 23, 2014, 08:21:04 PM
Any celeb booked for "The Great Switch On", Jon?
:-[ Yes  :-[ I`m booking the fire and rescue crews just in case.  :-[


 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 26, 2014, 11:48:21 AM
Not posted for a couple of days because Ive been hacking and generally mucking around with the scenic.
The Ratio goods shed is now 90% painted and assembled with one or two mods.
Yesterday the NGF site was  having server issues so I was happy in a way not to spend to much time on line.
 :claphappy: The Faller ''Karlsberg'' station (212114) arrived so I  had that to amuse me.
 It is made up of   363 pieces  :o  in several different colours. Spent most of the day sorting the bits out and matching then to the pictorial instruction manual.
First thing that I noted was that as expected it is to wide for my layout so 20mm was chopped off the centre block which means that it should just fit in the space allocated for it. At least I now have the 2 wings and the central elements assembled and spray painted so can see how and where things go
Theres going to be quite a bit of 'Anglicising' as I build/hack/bash it. Already much of the lower white brick has become sandstone colour whilst the upper will become 'brick red'.
Ive not got all the paints I need but they should arrive next week.
 Tuesday will be another non modelling day because SWMBO has  decided to have a birthday  :worried: We might go out for the day (Im told).
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 29, 2014, 07:29:51 PM
Up to my neck in station building at the moment  :worried: but at least the 363 parts are now down to about 325 but that still needs a large number still to find homes for  :doh:
Rather than go downstairs and outside I have started leaning out of our bedroom window with a can of spray paint in one hand and sheet of plastic parts in the other. All still on the spruce and spraying it outside. Ive had a few strange looks from passer by though.
Tried to program a couple of my locos on Sunday. Think I got it right but they wont budge when I put them on the layout. I really think I need to be in the right mood before I attempt again but will carry on reading all the instructions and posts about it here
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on April 29, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
Tried to program a couple of my locos on Sunday. Think I got it right but they wont budge when I put them on the layout.

I thought DCC was supposed to give a more lifelike acceration and pulling away.....mine take off like the have a rocket up their rear.
I'm guessing that a setting somewhere isn't right, but the book might as well be written in Swahili for how much I understand!   :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bob Wild on April 29, 2014, 09:29:19 PM
I have started leaning out of our bedroom window with a can of spray paint in one hand and sheet of plastic parts in the other. All still on the spruce

Can you do my sycamores as well?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on April 30, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
Can you do my sycamores as well?

That's hardly fir ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ChrisB on April 30, 2014, 07:50:31 PM
Are you trying to Palm off your tree making?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on April 30, 2014, 08:05:30 PM
He could spruce them up a bit  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: railwaylacky on April 30, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
Oak ay enough already with the tree jokes  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 01, 2014, 10:56:18 AM
Leaf the jokes outa this guys  :worried: Misplaced jokes are the root of this forums problems  :(
 ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on May 01, 2014, 04:32:47 PM

 :offtopicsign:   As John says, please get back on topic   :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 01, 2014, 07:23:15 PM

 :offtopicsign:   As John says, please get back on topic   :thankyousign:
Theres a  topic?
Oh yeah I remember.
Tried to settle down and sort a few things out this morning but ended up slapping some paint on the road brige lead up and run off then gave up for the day.
Hope Im more in the mood tomorrow especially as the 3 year olds coming over to inspect the station  :hmmm: :help:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on May 01, 2014, 09:43:13 PM
Hope Im more in the mood tomorrow especially as the 3 year olds coming over to inspect the station  :hmmm: :help:


I feel sure the 3 y/o will give you plenty praise and encourage you to do some more  ;)

I envy you having the opportunity to have a 3 y/o do the inspection as the smile you will get when he is happy will make it all worth while  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 02, 2014, 09:43:20 AM
Hope Im more in the mood tomorrow especially as the 3 year olds coming over to inspect the station  :hmmm: :help:


I feel sure the 3 y/o will give you plenty praise and encourage you to do some more  ;)

I envy you having the opportunity to have a 3 y/o do the inspection as the smile you will get when he is happy will make it all worth while  :thumbsup:

cheers John.

Just had a phone to say that the poor lads been up most of the night being sick  :'( so he wont be coming over today  but his 15 month old sister may come over in his place to give the mum a bit of a break.
I think she may be a bit young to introduce to  :ngauge:  although she does enjoy playing with her brothers Duplo train.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 06, 2014, 02:33:49 PM
Not done much for a day or so because I was a little bit upset that although I had the layout wired up and capable of running via DCC nothing would work when I plugged the Prodigy in, programed a loco and tried it out.......result noffing  :doh:
OK now  Ive known for years that I`m a bit electronically dyslexic but I was really disappointed at my failure especially as I had followed (I thought) the instructions to the last letter.
This morning I  thought 'right its sh.. or bust time.
I took the body of my fairburn off and removed the blanking chip before with somewhat shaking hands put in a digitrax chip.
I trusted myself so well that I had done it right I even put the body straight back on :worried:
A trip on the planning track seemed to sort out the address and it looked good to go on very basic settings.  :worried:
It sat on the main track and...............................NOTHING  :doh:
I cleaned the section of track it was on and tried again opening the throttle gently...................NOTHING
I removed the car coloured paint pen from the sidings it was laying across and watched my newly chipped loco set off round the track like a good one.
I am slightly happy now because Ive lost my DCC virginity at last  :bounce: :bounce: :claphappy: :bounce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on May 06, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
Congratulations John on joining the Dumbfoundead & Continually Confused club at last.   ;) :) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 06, 2014, 04:13:07 PM
Wahey :claphappy:
Well done, John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 07, 2014, 09:14:28 PM
Many congratulations, John.  :bounce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 09, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
Ran out of green spray paint yesterday half way through spraying all the windows so till next week that's on hold.
Thomas came over this afternoon and I had quickly changed back to DC so he could see things running including un chipped locos.
He was quite impressed especially as I  had put together a load of coaches and even the new 08 pulled all 6 of them with ease. Not one single derailment in 20 minutes running along just about every route, even the fairburn pulled them but I chickened out of sending them up the 3% incline to the bridge. My class73 did go up it as if it was running solo.
I really must change the pie cutter wheels on all my coaches
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 09, 2014, 09:40:52 PM
Ran out of green spray paint yesterday half way through spraying all the windows so till next week that's on hold.

Think that might need some explanation, John :worried: ???
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 10, 2014, 11:49:29 AM
Ran out of green spray paint yesterday half way through spraying all the windows so till next week that's on hold.

Think that might need some explanation, John :worried: ???
:confused1: Well with over 50 window frames involved I don't think brush painting is much of an option so another tin of spray paint ordered for next week delivery.
Next week brings forth the dreaded point motor fitting and wiring.
1st ..... wiring each motor to a choc block and opening each fixing hole
2nd..... turn layout on its side
 3rd.....glue 2 spacing blocks beneath each point fixing spot
4th.....position each motor and screw it down loosely
5th...test each point throwing and tighten down fixing screws
6th...drill a small hole and push a track pin in at each end of the motor.
7th.... link every point back to the control panel
check everything again, tidy up wiring, check everything again,
take a deep breath and stand board back horizontal again
check everything.
Go and rest in a dark room for a few days  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 10, 2014, 03:18:02 PM
Ran out of green spray paint yesterday half way through spraying all the windows so till next week that's on hold.

Think that might need some explanation, John :worried: ???
:confused1: Well with over 50 window frames involved I don't think brush painting is much of an option

Aha - one is enlightened. I couldn't imagine why you would wish to spray the windows green :dunce:
Good luck with the point motors. Can you refresh my memory as to which ones you are using? If Seeps, don't forget to centre both the actuating rod and the point blades before drilling/attaching :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 10, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
Ran out of green spray paint yesterday half way through spraying all the windows so till next week that's on hold.

Think that might need some explanation, John :worried: ???
:confused1: Well with over 50 window frames involved I don't think brush painting is much of an option

Aha - one is enlightened. I couldn't imagine why you would wish to spray the windows green :dunce:
Good luck with the point motors. Can you refresh my memory as to which ones you are using? If Seeps, don't forget to centre both the actuating rod and the point blades before drilling/attaching :thumbsup:
Oh yes I`m using the dreaded seep motors and have already constructed a centring jig. This afternoons been  spent chopping linking wire to go from the motor to the choc block and stripping the  insulation back (17of 3 different colours) :goggleeyes:
Tomorrow will be soldering day :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 10, 2014, 04:17:30 PM
When I looked at the point situation earlier I did wonder if it would be worth going down the colbolt route but the price put me off especially as I have enough seep motors, CDU and transformer etc 'in stock'. Of course I could sell the lot if I was offered a fair price (or win the Lotto) :hmmm:
Lets just say the idea is dormant at the moment but multi failures with seeps could change things
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 11, 2014, 11:46:35 AM
Ran out of green spray paint yesterday half way through spraying all the windows so till next week that's on hold.

Think that might need some explanation, John :worried: ???
:confused1: Well with over 50 window frames involved I don't think brush painting is much of an option so another tin of spray paint ordered for next week delivery.
Next week brings forth the dreaded point motor fitting and wiring.
1st ..... wiring each motor to a choc block and opening each fixing hole
2nd..... turn layout on its side
 3rd.....glue 2 spacing blocks beneath each point fixing spot
4th.....position each motor and screw it down loosely
5th...test each point throwing and tighten down fixing screws
6th...drill a small hole and push a track pin in at each end of the motor.
7th.... link every point back to the control panel
check everything again, tidy up wiring, check everything again,
take a deep breath and stand board back horizontal again
check everything.
Go and rest in a dark room for a few days  :worried:
:doh: Missed out step 1A  >:( which should read........
'hold burnt fingers under cold water tap caused by dropping soldering iron and making a grab at it before it hit the carpet'
  :dunce: :dunce:You would have thought that after years and years of soldering I would have known better  :dunce: :dunce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on May 11, 2014, 01:46:20 PM

 :doh: Missed out step 1A  >:( which should read........
'hold burnt fingers under cold water tap caused by dropping soldering iron and making a grab at it before it hit the carpet'
  :dunce: :dunce:You would have thought that after years and years of soldering I would have known better  :dunce: :dunce:

Oooooouuuuuch, I've managed to do it twice, instinct is strange when it puts you in more danger and the burns are really sore from a soldering irons especially if a bit of molten solder also sticks to your skin.   :smackedface:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 11, 2014, 03:15:34 PM

 :doh: Missed out step 1A  >:( which should read........
'hold burnt fingers under cold water tap caused by dropping soldering iron and making a grab at it before it hit the carpet'
  :dunce: :dunce:You would have thought that after years and years of soldering I would have known better  :dunce: :dunce:

Oooooouuuuuch, I've managed to do it twice, instinct is strange when it puts you in more danger and the burns are really sore from a soldering irons especially if a bit of molten solder also sticks to your skin.   :smackedface:
It was the iron itself which 'stuck' to my index finger. Thumb and centre finger took some of the contact but I just 'ripped' the iron out of that hand. Mega blister  reminds me of what a twit I was.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 11, 2014, 03:38:52 PM
Really sorry to read that, Jon. I hope it will heal quickly.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on May 11, 2014, 04:11:14 PM
It was the iron itself which 'stuck' to my index finger. Thumb and centre finger took some of the contact but I just 'ripped' the iron out of that hand. Mega blister  reminds me of what a twit I was.


Look on the bright side, at least you got a free yodeling lesson  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

I have a small gas fired soldering iron, which I had used and thought I had switched off the gas.  I found out differently when I checked the end to see if was cold enough to replace the cap  :'(

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 12, 2014, 11:03:38 AM
It was the iron itself which 'stuck' to my index finger. Thumb and centre finger took some of the contact but I just 'ripped' the iron out of that hand. Mega blister  reminds me of what a twit I was.


Look on the bright side, at least you got a free yodeling lesson  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Yes that's true and  quite a bit of it was multi lingual to bring vent its full  versatility  ::)
To make matters worse I received my package of extra seep motors this morning so I can get on and solder the wires to those (tomorrow maybe)  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 14, 2014, 09:56:36 AM
Didn't fancy more soldering yesterday so I set about making the blocks to mount the motors on .
I got a strip of 18mm stripwood and glued a continuous layer of 3mm cork on top of it. This made the strip close on 9mm thick. The boring part though was cutting the whole 500mm strip into 30mm lengths.
They turned out as nice blocks that I shall 'no nail' to the underside of the 9mm layout board  thus giving the motors quite a bit if flexing length when actuating the motors.
Sun looks great today so we are off out into the wilds of Berkshire for an hour or so and may even end up having a picnic on the side of the K&A canal. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 15, 2014, 03:41:10 PM
 :claphappy: :claphappy: At last the paint for the 50 station window frames and doors has arrived so Ive been sat outside spraying them
Received an email of pictures from youngest son (Thomas's father) just now from Pecorama where they spent this morning I`m lead to believe that its 'awsome'.
Im glad
SWMBO reminded me to send them a link for it before they went on hols. in Zomerzet
Since had a phone call apparently Thomas is crying his eyes out because they have now left Pecorama and are heading for a beach. Thomas dosnt want the beach he wants the trains which means that I must get on  with Ruleoneshire as instructed
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 17, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
Apart from waving a paint aerosol about a bit the other day Ive not been able to do any layout work.
Although last weeks burn is starting to heal ok but the index finger is very sore and tender. Most tools and procedures I can do with either hand I am by nature left handed and its my left hand that got burnt.
One conclusion I have come to is that the main incline loos a mess and always will without drastic measures .........................so I   have ordered a Faller R2 curved incline to replace the area from the stream bridge to the girder bridge that already exists and will position the incline on brick/concrete piers and do something to utilise the space underneath, maybe industrial of allotments orientated. I can see that I might even end up replacing the whole incline over a period of time (bank manager willing) :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 17, 2014, 12:13:04 PM
I hope your hand heals, soon. Allotments sound a very good idea or, maybe easier, a park, a green space for your factories' workers?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 17, 2014, 03:37:45 PM
I hope your hand heals, soon. Allotments sound a very good idea or, maybe easier, a park, a green space for your factories' workers?
It might even end up as a burial ground for the lazier workers  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 19, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
Plodding along today :) managed to trim a few station parts and glue them in place.
Apart from them being UK colouring I think the anglicising wont be going as far as I 1st intended.
The reason being that I have some continental running stock by Flieschmann, am using their tight radius points in 'wurlsend' and going to be building a Faller incline and maybe even use on of their bridges at the top.  :worried: :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 21, 2014, 07:43:44 PM
Demolition morning  >:D
The od incline built on Bushra foam ramp was ripped out with some gusto. I hated that ramp from the moment I laid it. The vertical sides looked silly and even covering them in cork or just plaster looked completely wrong.
Now theres a vast void where it ran. The bridge stays as is and the start of the incline remains but everything in between is gone. The radii were unfortunately to small although I went for the largest . I couldn't adjust the curves with heat so took the easy way out and used 1 curved,- 1 straight,- 1 curved,- 1 straight all the way round and thats made it so as both ends very nearly meet at the exact spots that I wanted them to.
Tomorrow with luck I`ll glue down some pier bases using the track beds as a template and then lay the track in the base sections whilst the pier bases are setting.
A bit of time will then be required to do some scenic work under the incline position and then build the piers up before I can position the track bed and track and see if any locos will go up it. I hope/think the whole thing will still be under 3% in climb  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 21, 2014, 08:36:11 PM
It should be possible to use Peco flexible track instead of short + curve combinations. On my old layout, I used Peco flexible track following a 'template' drawn using of old Lima curved rails. I then used trackpins at the end of the sleepers to force the rail into place then marked with a felt tip pin the length of inner rail that had to be cut off. Worked fine for me. Hope it will do for you, Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 22, 2014, 09:33:04 AM
It should be possible to use Peco flexible track instead of short + curve combinations. On my old layout, I used Peco flexible track following a 'template' drawn using of old Lima curved rails. I then used trackpins at the end of the sleepers to force the rail into place then marked with a felt tip pin the length of inner rail that had to be cut off. Worked fine for me. Hope it will do for you, Jon.
Of course I shall be laying flexi track along the complete length. Even setrack would need to be cut to lengths where straight and curved viaduct sections meet (each piece is only 100mm long)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 22, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
Great news (NOT) joined the curved and straight trackbed sections together in an order that matches up to the start and finish positions I want only to find that even using all of both sets I am 50mm short at one  end (that's half of 1 track bed so Ive had to order a complete set for just to finish the job off which means its going to drag on till next week
At least I have enough track to put in it  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
Ah yes - the trials and tribulations of track laying ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 22, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
Ah yes - the trials and tribulations of track laying ;)
Its all part of the fun though :laugh3:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 24, 2014, 02:22:53 PM
Ho hum  :worried: MrThomas was over yesterday. Annoyed when he saw how I had ripped some thack out and wanted to know why I hadn't replaced it :doh: Every engine HAD to be run with a mixture of 'lorries' (wagons/coaches ) behind it.
Found a facing pair of points that had moved very slightly and just enough to derail some of the more temperamental wagons and loco pony wheels.-----steps will be taken to correct the fault  >:D
3 small orders from Gaugemaster were dispatched yesterday  but only one containing non important items arrived today >:(
Hope next time lil one comes over my fleebay bargain bar stool will have arrived and he can sit on that and not need lifting up to see things every 25 seconds or so. SWMBO wasn't impressed by having to do that.
My eldest son kept watching the faulty points but couldn't see any problems so I was dispatched to check them out whist he ran the trains (1st time ever) .I am beginning to think that at 30years old he is at last getting interested in the layout---time will tell.
Busy starting to lay grass today. Ive gone for a sheet autumn meadow grass to lay between the raised track area.
I thought about smoking some of it but was told its the wrong sort  :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 24, 2014, 02:44:08 PM
'Keep off the grass, Jon' :telloff: :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 24, 2014, 03:28:35 PM
'Keep off the grass, Jon' :telloff: :D
  :laugh: :laugh: Says the man with the rubber sheet fetish :laugh3:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 24, 2014, 07:37:08 PM

My eldest son kept watching the faulty points but couldn't see any problems so I was dispatched to check them out whist he ran the trains (1st time ever) .I am beginning to think that at 30years old he is at last getting interested in the layout---time will tell.

The original GF set I  bought was in fact for him.  It was bought when the hospital phoned up to update us on Mrs JCs prenatal check up and to inform us that the baby would be a boy.
The DC controller that I`m using to check things out before going 100% DCC is in fact the controller from that set
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 25, 2014, 04:08:13 PM
Fleebay madness weekend for me I recon. Friday night the bar stool and thismorning I spotted a new camcorder with no bids on it even thought it was due to end in 12minutes so I offered a bid of up to 5 and as it was a ''up to'' bid 99p registered......and I won it. Never had one before
Maybe cr :censored: but at that price I`ll take a chance even though its 8 postage.
Lots of grass laid today under the new incline. I didn't clean the board right back to level but left it slightly rough so that it looks more like moor or reclaimed pasture. The edges will need tidying up (or untidying) to hide where the mattings cut but that wont be done till its all laid, must get some tall weeds and rough ground cover when next ordering anything
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 27, 2014, 09:53:18 AM
'Trimmed' round the grass mats yesterday so that no  cut edges showed. I used a thin fillet of pollifilla  round the edges and smoothed it into the  existing terrain, a coat of green paint and then a rub over as it dried to blend everything in together. When every thing is finished I`ll paint a thin layer of pva and then scatter loose grass onto it.
Ive decided to put off ballasting till I`m completely satisfied with the track laying and point operation even to the extent that  ballasting may not happen till next year.
Awaiting Mr Postie ATM as he has the last bits (I hope) of the incline with him and later today my high cost (?) bar stool arrives + we have our 18month granddaughter coming over to play for a couple of hours----are there any pink RTR locos available ?  :no:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: mika on May 27, 2014, 01:28:26 PM
----are there any pink RTR locos available ?  :no:


Actually, there is. I admit that it's continental, though: click (http://www.fleischmann.de/de/product/221090-0-0-5-1-0-0-002002/products.html)

 :D

Cheers
Michael
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 27, 2014, 07:28:10 PM
----are there any pink RTR locos available ?  :no:


Actually, there is. I admit that it's continental, though: click ([url]http://www.fleischmann.de/de/product/221090-0-0-5-1-0-0-002002/products.html[/url])

 :D

Cheers
Michael

 :o :laugh: :laugh:  :hmmm: Now that could be to far continental even for me
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 29, 2014, 03:48:53 PM
Managed to get the viaduct together yesterday wit both ends and a central pier lining up to within about 1.5mm.
I can cope with that (I think) (see my profile  >:D) and now find its a  :censored: of a job installing the remaining piers in exactly the right height and position. Im using the concrete pillar bases with the piers mounted on top of them. Doing it that way I can lightly glue them down onto the grass sheet and then screw the bottom pillar base  down so nothing can move. I spotted a largish spray paint the same colour as the trestle bridge so bought a can via Amazon. It sprays quite well but despite saying its fast drying its 'touch dry' in 30 minutes and not hard dry for 24 hours.
At the moment its hanging from the garage roof and will stay there till tomorrow morning.
Cant say the paint fumes did my chest any good but at least the jobs done.
managed to slide a thin piece of plasticard between the point and the next track where it was causing chaos last week. The cards firmly glued in with poxy glue and at least neither the points nor the track will move  in the future. Must trim it down and merge it all in together before the weekend.
Think we are grandson free this week so theres no rush for me to finish anything :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 29, 2014, 07:40:05 PM
Sounds like you're sorting out all those 'niggles' John :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 30, 2014, 09:38:14 AM
Sounds like you're sorting out all those 'niggles' John :thumbsup:
Quite correct but I`m lucky my hammers exactly the right size  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 31, 2014, 11:38:35 AM
Am I nearly here yet?
From this mess  ----
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0137.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0137.jpg.html)
and then to this mess----
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0138.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0138.jpg.html)
 and forever forward to this mess----
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0154.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0154.jpg.html)
A few more piers and some bridge adjustment to get the levels right  and then all that's needed is the horticulture in the meadow below
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2014, 11:46:56 AM
Making good progress, Jon, but definitely rather more piers are needed.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 31, 2014, 11:56:23 AM
Making good progress, Jon, but definitely rather more piers are needed.
Working on them now but I only had access to the camera for a few minutes...and even then the batteries were virtually flat. :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 31, 2014, 01:23:57 PM
Many thanks to scotsoft for fixing the photobucket picture again  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on May 31, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
Many thanks to scotsoft for fixing the photobucket picture again  :thumbsup:


(http://www.smileygenerator.us/charsigns/links/1_86_62_2.0852828001345681815.gif) (http://www.smileygenerator.us)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 02, 2014, 07:55:53 PM
 :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: :veryangry: Lined up the lower end of the viaduct this morning and found a problem  :veryangry: Directionally the track lined up spot on but something didn't look right.
I linked the existing track up so that I could run a couple of locos up the incline. I was right :veryangry: :veryangry: there was a definite kink where the tracks joined My poor little terrier managed to cross it solo but with just one carriage on the back progress was doomed. Once I had pushed it beyond the joint all was well and it shot off to the top of the incline like a goodun.
I have 2 extra straight viaduct sections left and will have to ease the incline out by using at least one of them
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 02, 2014, 08:12:58 PM
You'll get it right, soon, I'm sure, John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on June 02, 2014, 08:19:54 PM
Oh dear - I think that should have been in the Angry Thread :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 02, 2014, 08:34:22 PM
Oh dear - I think that should have been in the Angry Thread :worried:
Me angry??
Who me?
nah I`m a placid sort of GOM  ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 03, 2014, 11:20:58 AM
Things look better or at least not so bad on a sunny morning. Trouble is its raining today tho may clear up later. Think I  can ease the existing ramp into the incline easier than I thought (with luck) :-\
 Sprayed an  extra viaduct segment ready to install as soon as its dried, taken out the lowest pier as that was a big part of the problem and got everything ready for when the paints dry. Could have a problem this afternoon as we have called an electrician in to do a few repairs to switch/socket/ wiring jobs that I can no longer do.
Loft access is right above my tool boxes in the railway room so most of them might need moving  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 04, 2014, 06:27:08 PM
Yesterdays visit by a sparky went off well and we were pleased with the results.
Spent this morning trying to finalise the incline. Didn't manage the final link up to the layout as  I had an argument with some fish plates...they won and I gave up for the day. At least the faulty points fine now.
Thomas begged to come over this afternoon so despite the fact that he is still slightly affected with chicken pox we gave in and he came over for a couple of hours. He had all the ''trains' running back and forth then decided he wanted all the locos joined together (DC&DCC) and run as a big train :doh:
He could not be pacified and stormed off downstairs calling me all sorts of names and throwing an enormous strop.
Think I shall ban him from the train room for several weeks.
We did whilst playing trains discover that my reversing loop works fine. 1st time a loco has been round that part of the layout. Will finish off the incline tomorrow as a set of extra piers arrived today
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 07, 2014, 06:57:02 PM
I thought a week or so ago that I was going to be able to settle into fitting seep motors-----then I burned my hand and started work on the incline. Thats about ready to refit but I shall still need to put the board on edge to work on. Today Ive been investigating Tortoise and Cobalt point motors and think they may well be better in the long term than seep.
I recon I should be able to drill all the screw holes through the baseboard and then just (pigs might fly ::) )  screw the motors in the right position underneath. I shall be testing both out in a few days time on a off cut length of board and spare sets of points.
I feel a sale of seep motors/CDUs etc coming on
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 07, 2014, 07:18:35 PM
I'm going to try Conrad Point Motors for Cant Cove after Michiel posted this:

CONRAD POINT MOTORS (Michiel)

"To foresee an easy access and replacement with these Conrad motors is a necessity. You'll see that some of them will break down rather quickly, even immediately after placement (as I experienced, a production error inside). If you can live with the fact that they are low quality, and take measures, these motors can be very cost-effective on larger layouts, and possibly cheaper than servo's with their decoders/drives and additional polarity switches."

As I plan for my point motors to be surface mounted (in oblong slots cut into the insulation board which will be underlying the track and scenery) I think I can live with replacing them as required.

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 07, 2014, 08:21:37 PM
I'm going to try Conrad Point Motors for Cant Cove after Michiel posted this:

CONRAD POINT MOTORS (Michiel)

"To foresee an easy access and replacement with these Conrad motors is a necessity. You'll see that some of them will break down rather quickly, even immediately after placement (as I experienced, a production error inside). If you can live with the fact that they are low quality, and take measures, these motors can be very cost-effective on larger layouts, and possibly cheaper than servo's with their decoders/drives and additional polarity switches."

As I plan for my point motors to be surface mounted (in oblong slots cut into the insulation board which will be underlying the track and scenery) I think I can live with replacing them as required.
I have great respect for Michiels modelling but in this instance I feel that they are not for me.
I  want longevity and reliability and I feel these offer neither. I might just as well stick with seep and all their idiosyncrasies. 
Perhaps you will use them one day and write a review about them here
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 07, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
I'm sure you're making the right decision, Jon. I only have a few (7) points at the front and up to 5 in the fiddle yard (depending how many sidings I can fit in) and they'll be surface-mounted and I won't have an eager grandson wanting to know why the points don't work! I may well decide, later, that I want to pay more for longevity and reliability. For now, hand operated is fine with Conrad point motors as an experiment, probably in the fiddle yard first as they won't need to be hidden at all and that's the place (at the back and under a hill) where remote operation makes the most sense.

I found a good review of slow action point motors here:
http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10609 (http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10609)

The writer chose:
Tortoise: Pro: slow action, quiet, easy install, reliable. Cons: size (not practical for multi level layouts).

This looks like a good compromise:

"Perhaps I could add some personal experience. I have both Tortoise and Conrad point motors. The Tortoise ones are on the scenic part of my layout and the Conrad ones are in the off-scene storage yard areas. This is because for the scenic side I was prepared to pay for reliability. The Conrad ones would be easy to replace if needed especially as I bought a job lot and have some spares. However, none have needed replacing yet. The Tortoise are large and expensive but quite easy to fit and adjust. The Conrad ones are much cheaper and smaller and, although basic fitting is easy, adjusting them to work perfectly takes time. One over-riding thing though - they are both far better than the solenoid type which I find very loud, need a lot of power, and I suspect would eventually strain the linkages on the point.

By the way, I have used a lower voltage than quoted by the manufacturers with both types. This makes them even more quiet and slows the action to the point (both meanings) where it looks quite realistic. I have used two plug-in type power supplies that have a switch to change the voltage from 3V to 12V in 1.5V steps."

(Hope that's OK to post?)

So, I will try Conrad for the fiddle yard and then, when money allows (I'd a=rather spend money on having more locos. DCC fitted) Tortoise for the 'front of house'.

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 07, 2014, 08:53:41 PM
NB THe review posted was PRE-Cobalt. They are more compact than Tortoise but the big advantage is that there is no soldering required. They also come with 0.032" wire. Hmm, so, maybe, I should try Cobalt for 'front of house' then?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 07, 2014, 08:56:41 PM
 I had read that thread you sent the link for and many others. As I said Ive spent today researching the things
Its all down to personal choice I guess
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 07, 2014, 09:36:51 PM
Thanks, John, for prompting me to think, again, about point motors. I'll be very interested to learn more about your experiences with Tortoise and Cobalt point motors. I definitely won't go with SEEP ones. Conrad and Cobalt are looking my favourites.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bob Wild on June 08, 2014, 11:50:47 PM
I've got twenty Seep motors on my layout and not had any problems. I quite like the solid clunk when they fire as it gives my reassurance that they have actually operated. But remember, I'm an amateur, not a purist. To line then up I put a couple of 1 mm cards on each side of the frog to centralise the point and then lined them up below by eye. One thing I did learn from experience is that it's quite useful to elongate the mounting holes, by cutting through from the end to make a slot. You could then move them laterally to get them in exactly the right position. Point operation was no problem, the sensitive bit was getting the switches to work properly, in my case to operate bi-color LED's to indicate the point direction. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 09, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
. But remember, I'm an amateur, not a purist.
Bob how dare you infer that I might be a purist  >:(   ;) ;)....(please note smilies) as no offence is meant
I class myself as a rank and file amateur who is rather experimenting and exploring  new fangled technology.
I did use a couple of seep motors on my 1st layout along with several peco side mounted surface motors. All of them seemed to work ok but with 'Ruleoneshire' I fancy a change especially when I read the nightmarish problems some have setting up and keeping seep motors working.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on June 09, 2014, 12:19:51 PM
Everybody at my club is anti-seep motors, but of course I found this out only after buying all mine!
They are a little tricky to set up, but I haven't had any problems with them.

(Wookie touches the biggest bit of wood he can find)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 09, 2014, 03:07:53 PM
Everybody at my club is anti-seep motors, but of course I found this out only after buying all mine!
They are a little tricky to set up, but I haven't had any problems with them.

(Wookie touches the biggest bit of wood he can find)
That's usually the way. :(
Ive even got some of mine wired up and ready to install  :(
PS would you like some more at a fair price?   :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 09, 2014, 04:30:56 PM
Run out of concrete pier bases and GM havnt got any in stock so I still cant finally install the viaduct/incline.
Its probably a good thing in some way because its forcing me to drill all the point motor fixing holes from above and then stand the board on edge to install them. Theres going to be a mixture because I couldn't decide which I like best (Tortoise or Cobalt) each have their 'better points'
I already have a couple of 'sample' ones on order along with the drilling jigs but have ordered 12 Cobalt and 6 tortoise to give me a good start. Any more than that I can order as and when I see the need for them looming.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 11, 2014, 04:33:03 PM
I think Mr postman nearly strained himself delivering to us today cant see why because he only had 5 railway related packages with him.
Spent an hour sussing out and improving point motor jigs.
Theres some spots on the layout where Cobalt motors will be better than Tortoise and vice versa
Every single fixing position is somewhere where I can use the drilling jig on top of the layout and drill through so fixing later should be just a case of screwing up into the baseboard.
Next few days will be spent drilling pilot holes (as per above) and hooking short lengths of wire to the motors themselves and putting a choc bloc on the end. That only leaves wiring them back to the switch board.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2014, 05:43:54 PM
Can you, please, post a picture of your point drilling jig, John?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 11, 2014, 07:31:38 PM
Can you, please, post a picture of your point drilling jig, John?
I`ll have to see if they work 1st.......you can buy ready made ones from on line retailers.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2014, 07:33:57 PM
Thanks, John. I had no idea such things existed.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on June 11, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
I just use a 1mm drill bit, which fits through the hole in the lever on the set of points.
Push the points one way, drill through the hole and through the board, shift the points the other way and do it again.
You then have two holes that mark the ends of the slot needed for the point motor rod to be able to do its job.
Drill spots between them then open up with a needle file.
Shimples  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 11, 2014, 08:23:25 PM
Thanks, Mike. I will be using a layer of insulating board on top of the baseboard frame and (thin) top with more insulating board added for scenic elements so I am hoping to be able to have pont motors on top but buried in cutouts with plasticard covers covered with the appropraite scenic material above in the insulating board. That is the theory anyway!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 11, 2014, 09:04:24 PM
I just use a 1mm drill bit, which fits through the hole in the lever on the set of points.
Push the points one way, drill through the hole and through the board, shift the points the other way and do it again.
You then have two holes that mark the ends of the slot needed for the point motor rod to be able to do its job.
Drill spots between them then open up with a needle file.
Shimples  :D
Agreed wookie but cobalt and  tortoise motors require four accurate positioning screws  (a bit like the two for seep motors) but if they are correctly positioned the motor sits in exactly the right position without any fine tuning.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on June 11, 2014, 09:14:47 PM
Sounds like a good reason for sticking to my Seeps  :o
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 12, 2014, 09:18:20 AM
Sounds like a good reason for sticking to my Seeps  :o
It actually sounds worse than it is. (I hope) :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 13, 2014, 09:55:17 AM
 :drool: A great stack of  slow point motors has appeared in the layout room.
My jigs 'seem' to work  :claphappy:
 In the Cobalt 12 pack one of their drilling jigs  and drill was included. Ive not opened the tortoise 6 pack yet so there may be one of theirs included.
Before I go much further  I must decide on a switching plan . The Gaugemaster modules I got for doing it arnt going to work easily so that part of things is back to the drawing board although most of the options are shown in the motor instruction leaflets.
Rather than buy the Cobalt double sided sticky pads to help deaden sound I think I will go with as cushion of cork underlay between motors and baseboards.
New bedroom reading lights being installed this morning so everything will be chaos for an hour or so. Great power saving tho as we are going down the LED route instead of the good old 75watt bayonet fitting spot lamps.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on June 13, 2014, 10:04:09 AM
Great power saving tho as we are going down the LED route instead of the good old 75watt bayonet fitting spot lamps.

Ye Gods, John - 75watt bedroom reading lamps? :o
I'm surprised your bedtime reading doesn't catch fire :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 13, 2014, 11:26:31 AM
Great power saving tho as we are going down the LED route instead of the good old 75watt bayonet fitting spot lamps.

Ye Gods, John - 75watt bedroom reading lamps? :o
I'm surprised your bedtime reading doesn't catch fire :laugh:
S`ok we kept a fire extinguisher next to the bed.
New lights now installed are only 10 watts
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 13, 2014, 04:10:07 PM
Still got to install more pillars to the viaduct but hooked up my old controller and tested my smallest  loco on the gradient and it  ran fine, then added a couple of slightly weighted GF mk1 coaches and tried it with them. Slight wheel spin caused by opening the throttle from zero to half on the lead up track but it took the whole incline with them in tow  easily which satisfied me :)
Its only a little Dapol Terrier  which Ive had years.
Don't think I`ll enjoy wiring 20 mini DPDT switches soon but I`m committed  now   :worried: then Ihave to do the points themselves *gulp*
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 14, 2014, 09:27:00 AM
Sorted out the point changing switches last night and ordered them  via fleabay only to realise vI had ordered momentary on self centring ones and cant cancel them. Have  now ordered the correct ones from a different supplier.
The unit to build them into is the next concern until I spotted
  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Instrument-Case-Project-Box-161-x-95-x-60-mm-/301123993821?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item461c6380dd (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Instrument-Case-Project-Box-161-x-95-x-60-mm-/301123993821?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item461c6380dd)
which seems an ideal answer to my requirements. I may even end up with 2 if the first one does what I want it to
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on June 14, 2014, 01:14:38 PM
I'd be interested to know how you get on with it, John.
My only concern is the front aluminium panel is only 1mm thick, so could bow inwards when drilling it :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on June 14, 2014, 01:40:19 PM
I'd be interested to know how you get on with it, John.
My only concern is the front aluminium panel is only 1mm thick, so could bow inwards when drilling it :hmmm:

Mark the plate off and place on top of some wood then drill  :thumbsup:

No denting of plate  :claphappy:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 14, 2014, 02:55:33 PM
I'd be interested to know how you get on with it, John.
My only concern is the front aluminium panel is only 1mm thick, so could bow inwards when drilling it :hmmm:


Mark the plate off and place on top of some wood then drill  :thumbsup:

No denting of plate  :claphappy:

cheers John.



......or replace  it with sheet of plasticard
..... or buy a sheetmetal drill bit of the correct size  ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sheet%20metal%20drill%20bits (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sheet%20metal%20drill%20bits) )
The thought of drilling it with an ordinary drill bit rather frightens me. The plate would have to be firmly clamped down on something or it could  become a fly saucer (with one or two fingers with it) before you could turn power drill off
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bob Wild on June 14, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
Mark the plate off and place on top of some wood then drill  :thumbsup:


Wot he said!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 16, 2014, 11:04:23 AM
Just discovered that I shall have to offset 3 of my Cobalts and maybe 2 Tortoises. Only by about 10mm but it makes an easy job slightly ''interesting''  ::)
Had family over yesterday for a few hours. I think we were all knac.... tired  by the time they went home.
Taking life easy today but may end up working out the point positions and pilot hole drilling. :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 16, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
Tried the drilling jigs out after lunch with son holding the jig still whilst I drilled the holes. Only managed three and flagged them with blue mapping pins. Will flag the tortoise ones with green map pins  (colour coded  ;) clever or what?)
As the tortoises are bigger than the cobalt they will be used at the back well away from tiny fingers  >:D
Defiantly wasn't up to doing much today. Rest required or an easy sitting down job tomorrow. Maybe sorting out and fitting the actuating rods to the motors.
Switches wont be here till the end of next week so I can see 40  lengths of wire hanging out of the layouts front with labels denoting point numbers on them.  :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 17, 2014, 11:27:33 AM
I'd be interested to know how you get on with it, John.
My only concern is the front aluminium panel is only 1mm thick, so could bow inwards when drilling it :hmmm:
Update on the above post by NPN.
The  two boxes arrived this morning and look good quality. The envisaged problems about drilling the cover can be put aside. The ali is very firm and wont flex in any direction under moderate pressure. I`m pretty certain it will drill ok if care is taken (maybe a pilot hole and then filed open). Supporting it on a softwood block is advisable I think
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 17, 2014, 04:31:40 PM
Just drilled most of the screw pilot holes for the point motors from above the board.  :-[ One near nasty event was when I was about to drill downwards and realised a neighbouring track was in the way so was only able to drill 3 fixing holes. Will drill the remaining one once the boards on its side. 16 done and 4 to go if Ive calculated things correctly
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 20, 2014, 11:19:55 AM
Now defiantly leaving my comfort zone  :worried:
Time to lift the whole board onto its side on chairs and start actually installing the point motors and wiring them back to the two switch boxes.
Nice packet of 20 switches has just arrived so I can wire straight back into them and then position them on the mimic board. Recon at the rate I work it may take about 3 weeks :o
Someone mentioned the new GF Jinty on the threebay threads   :veryangry: They even come  DCC ready  :( so I just had to have one  ;)
Little mans coming over this afternoon and wont be pleased to find the trains arnt running but it will be fine in a few weeks time (I hope)
Wired my old GF DC controller into a phono plug and a socket is installer into the track bus. Will now wire my Prodigy system into a phono plug then I can chop and change between DC and DCC until I eventually get all my locos chipped (about 3 years)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 22, 2014, 04:46:01 PM
Phew ! wheres the last two days   gone to ?
 I know I work slow with many breaks but its seemed to take ages to get tortoise and cobalt point motors out of the packing and assembled.  I guess that  fitting 2 wire tails down to a double chocblock added a fair bit of  time to each unit along with centring the activating rod once fitted. At least that's one job out the way now its just wiring up the 20 switches :doh: Managed 8 today and have all the wires cut for the rest. Of course Ive still got the final wires from the point motors to solder on but that's only 2 wires :)
New soldering flux I m using has a strange (to me) smell. Eventually realised last night that it has  a very very slight hint of ether in it. No wonder I felt heady. Windows been wide open today.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 24, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
Wooopeeeeeeeeee 6 months later than planned we managed to roll the layout over onto its side sitting on a couple of chairs (the board on its side not us). It sort of wobbled about a bit so we took 2 of the legs off and clamped them to the lower legs which were waiving abour at chair seat level :claphappy:
Where on earth does all our rubbis important bits of kit come from. Underneath the layout one expects to see the carpeted floor. No such luck it was covered with stacks of boxes and  goodies relating to model railways.
I can for the frirst time in close on a year see the underside of the layout  :help: what a maize of wiring. I shall have to re knit some of that before starting on adding point wiring :doh:
Not that I can get to it because of everything stacked on the floor  >:(  Will clear that in the morning.
I can now see where Ive drilled the point motor screw pilot holes down through.  My plan might work  :-\
The 1st one I want to do/experiment with has a slight problem :doh: One of the cross members under the board goes right between my pilot holes  :veryangry: :censored: still I can turn the motor round 180% and mount it that way round.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on June 24, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
Still finding my way around this forum site John but I've found you so going to browse through it all and see what you've been building . . . seen pages 1 through 3 and my gosh it does look good !

Later

Jon

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 24, 2014, 09:42:47 PM
Still finding my way around this forum site John but I've found you so going to browse through it all and see what you've been building . . . seen pages 1 through 3 and my gosh it does look good !

Later

Jon
:doh: Oh heck I bet your bored by page  6
PS I will try and grab the camera for a while tomorrow and see if I can get a picture or 5 of the present chaos
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on June 24, 2014, 09:45:53 PM
Tis good to see that others are as daft as me . . . . Need a big house and O gauge and lessons in soldering.  On page 10 !
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 25, 2014, 07:43:14 PM
Decided that completely clearing the area the layout usually stands on would be a waste of time so am rearranging it so I have a usable area to work in and will then shunt it around to clear another space when I need that.
Re-knitted some of the wiring and installed/connected the reversing loop module so one area now looks slightly tidier but theres still room for improvement once I have the soldering iron out again
Eventually got round to installing the 1st 2 tortoise point motors. Took far longer than I expected but its the 1st time Ive ever installed any. Most of the pilot holes I had drilled from above somehow didn't quite line up so there was some 'fiddling' required. Tortoise point motors don't like point springs and 9mm ply boards so the springs do need removing, or thicker activating rods made up and used. It didn't help that I was using a 9volt torch battery to test their action. At least I managed to wire them back to the control box and tape an identity label to the wires end.
Learnt a fair bit as far as finding the easiest way to position and fit them (A nice deep countersunk round the underside of the board helps give them 'breathing space' )
Anyway that's 10% of the points fitted and tested  :claphappy:
Think we are going out tomorrow  :hmmm: for an hour or so. Hope we see a model shop on our tour so I can get some ground cover and some odds and ends I want for scenic.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 28, 2014, 10:38:31 AM
Days out, and visitors for the day have taken their toll on time this week. Not that Ive actually felt up to doing much.
I shall get all these point motors installed and working eventually but its going to be a hard slog unless my breathing and general health improves .
I can at least boast that I now have 3 points sorted out and wired back to the control area. Will attempt another 2 today.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on June 28, 2014, 01:36:54 PM
What part of 'Go easy' don't you understand, Jon? ::)
Sorry if I sound like your other half :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 28, 2014, 02:13:44 PM
What part of 'Go easy' don't you understand, Jon? ::)
Sorry if I sound like your other half :sorrysign:
Thanks for reminding me Matron  ;)
Sorry but Ive never been one  to sit on my backend and do nothing. :scowl:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 30, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
Looks like the mist has finally cleared from my brain cell and point installing is going well with the latest one going in and working with no adjustment to make it work.
Tomorrow I change over from installing tortoises an go on to cobalts. Don't think the trouble will be in fitting them once I can get the board in a position where I don't have to screw my neck into a knot to see what Im doing.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 04, 2014, 10:18:36 AM
Cant say that Elf And Softy would approve of the way the layouts balanced on its side on a plastic box on a chair but its worked for me.
Only got one cobalt fitted so far but it went in a treat and lined up perfectly first time.  :claphappy:
with all this good weather Ive tended to ignore the layout and enjoy the sunshine etc.
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 04, 2014, 11:49:57 AM
Good weather, my  :moony:
It's weeing down in Lancashire :rain:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 04, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
Good weather, my  :moony:
It's weeing down in Lancashire :rain:
Serves you right  :laugh: Anybody who lives norf of the tundra land divide should expect nothing less.
That's why the Watford Gap exists. To show people where the norf meets the sunny souf
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 05, 2014, 07:45:31 PM
 >:( It had to happen at least once >:(
Got round to installing a clump of three point motors near the front of the board.
first off there was an untidy bundle of dropper wires and connecters under the 1st motor.  Ok Ive planned all along to tidy up the wiring as I go so got that done and dusted and started to countersink the underside of the motor hole........flat drill battery did not amuse me  so there was an inforced 2 hour 'out time' whilst it recharged.
Checking through the actuating hole showed that the  :censored: thing was slightly out of line. Fortunately I have a  neat milling cutter that Ive used in the past to draw the hole across to where it should be.  The only thing that scares me is going to far through and :censored: up the points.
The other two points look ok except the fact that the inevitable has happened and the actuating hole is precisely in the centre of the bracing  :veryangry: :veryangry:.
Soooooooooooooo I took my trusty tennen saw to the brace and removed it. An offset brace was made up and glued in place but bit was annoying.

Tomorrow maybe I shall get round to actually installing the motors  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 06, 2014, 11:42:27 AM
.................. and so saying I went in and deepened the 3 countersinks and slipped a point motor onto place, drilled 1 hole and fitted a screw to it, checked alignment. Tightened the 1  screw, drilled 2 more holes and fitted screws, applied power and the points slid across beautifully and it took under an hour to do it all  :claphappy:
Maybe I can get the other 2 done later today although  we have been threatened with visitors to occupy us for an hour or so.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 09, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
Tempus Fugit as they say :-\ but Ive at last got past the halfway point with fitting point motors and every one that Ive done works. The wiring leads back into my control/mimic boxes and is of course numbered so as I know which is which.
The switches arnt soldered on yet but are ready to just solder to the wire ends and hook up to a mini bus in the box.
Bedlam for two days as of tomorrow. I have at last talked the wife into having a shower installed and to aid me she has agreed to have one fitted.  Trouble is our only loo  :-[ is in the bathroom  :-[ so the plumbers may be having regular tea breaks so we can.............. :-[ :-[
Young Thomas has fallen in love with worms, so Ive had to obtain by stealth means a Graham Farish 371-701 which should be fun. I suspect it may lack multiple decoders to start off  with.
It will defiantly be a rule 1 visitor
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 09, 2014, 07:52:29 PM
I bet you will want to go all the more just because the plumbers are working  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

I could not survive without my shower, it has been many years since I have been able to get in and out of the bath and I do not miss it one bit.  The shower is great when the weather gets hot and sticky  :heart2:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 09, 2014, 08:21:03 PM
I bet you will want to go all the more just because the plumbers are working  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

I could not survive without my shower, it has been many years since I have been able to get in and out of the bath and I do not miss it one bit.  The shower is great when the weather gets hot and sticky  :heart2:

cheers John.
Ive been struggling with baths for over a year now. ( I wont tell anybody but once or twice Ive had to call wife and son in to help haul me out  :-[ )
Don't tell anybody though please  :-[
The alternative though is to go outside and stand in the rain but that's not much fun in the winter   :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 09, 2014, 08:28:36 PM
Ive been struggling with baths for over a year now. ( I wont tell anybody but once or twice Ive had to call wife and son in to help haul me out  :-[ )
Don't tell anybody though please  :-[
The alternative though is to go outside and stand in the rain but that's not much fun in the winter   :smiley-laughing:

Well you can imagine my dilema when living on my own I realised for the first time I could not get out of the bath  :help:

I promise to to say a word to anyone  ;)

Standing outside in the rain in the winter may also have given your neighbours something to talk about  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 12, 2014, 09:35:41 PM
 :worried: :( A day of horrors today. Ive moved along to the last section to fit the point motors and find that in one 1ft square of the board there are 7 sets of points. Most of them clustered together or up against the board framework.
Well Ive managed (despite the heat) to tidy up the wiring and fit 1 point motor....that refuses to 'sit' in exactly the right place dispite being twisted and turned etc.
Guess some points will have to have offset motors and run via WIT links Tortoise motors actually supply a kit for that purpose but its huge.
Gave up about 4PM and have been relaxing ever sinse.
Tomorrows another day
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 12, 2014, 09:39:28 PM
I hope you can sort it out, tomorrow, John. Don't over-stress yourself, please.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: johnlambert on July 13, 2014, 11:12:28 AM
Sometimes it is best to take a break and come back to a problem with a clear head.  There have been a few model railway jobs (and probably some non MR jobs too) that have nearly reduced me to rage one day and then (when coming back to them in the right frame of mind) turned out not to be difficult at all.

As Chris said, don't let it get to you :)  :beers:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 13, 2014, 11:56:54 AM
Sometimes it is best to take a break and come back to a problem with a clear head.  There have been a few model railway jobs (and probably some non MR jobs too) that have nearly reduced me to rage one day and then (when coming back to them in the right frame of mind) turned out not to be difficult at all.

As Chris said, don't let it get to you :)  :beers:
Quite agree.
I packed thing in yesterday afternoon and relaxed .
This morning I went in and browsed the problem.
1 point motor is now turning through 180% which leaves space for another to fit without a problem.
2 still left me scratching my head but the solution is going to be bell cranks so they are on order.
1 will require a slight 'hole' in a bearer but its not a problem any  more.
2 still need more 'consideration' 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on July 13, 2014, 01:16:01 PM

2 still need more 'consideration'

If they are that difficult then I always resort to the WIT method,  I find the nearest place to mount the motor, cut a channel in the cork I use as underlay, insert a piece of brass tube to the motor, bend up a piece of wire to suit, job done.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 13, 2014, 03:45:21 PM
Thanks Cas I`m fast coming to the conclusion that I shall have to do the same although I may cheat and run WIT from a motor placed in an out of the way position...or use part of my stock of Peco PL 11 surface mounted things with a CDU and supply :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 14, 2014, 10:47:20 AM
Points problem resolved.
Means moving two sets of points to a different area of the board and then abandoning the remaining ones.
The sidings as is have always been short and somewhat congested so in removing most of them and straightening out the remaining few and then 'filling' the empty space with a turntable and engine storage.
 Cost ....an arm and a leg.  :doh:
Manufacturer.... Fleischman.
Delivery ..... end of this week  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ColinH on July 14, 2014, 11:44:56 AM
Brilliant solution to the problem Jon  :claphappy: Like your way of thinking and hope that the new arrangement is more to your liking.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2014, 09:34:22 AM
Now forward to step 32974B (or thereabouts)
At last all the point motors are wired back to the control panel and the board is being prepared to roll back onto its legs  :claphappy: which means that if bribed I could run locos on it  ;)
Still got to wire the point motors to their final switches on the control panel  and remove the now obsolete areas of points and track and maybe relay a cork mat over the area (gluing it down properly this time).
Turntables due for delivery any time/day now so that's the next major hurdle to grapple with.  :uneasy: To start with its going to be like the points and controlled from the control panel but in the future it might be converted to DCC running. At the moment I feel that's defiantly beyond me.

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2014, 03:05:25 PM
Well the boards horizontal again :claphappy:.............but so am I for an hour. It took 3 of us to empty the layout area, screw the legs back on the layout and slowly roll the board off the chairs its been balanced on for a week or so and position it in the space designated.
The landings stacked high with tool boxes, boxes of pits and pieces and everything else we had to throw out of the room.
Just at the moment its far to hot to shift stuff around and it may well wait till this evening.
No turntable delivered yet but a pack of extra lead offs has so at least I can now see what some of it actually looks like.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 17, 2014, 03:10:48 PM
Well the boards horizontal again :claphappy:.............but so am I for an hour. It took 3 of us to empty the layout area, screw the legs back on the layout and slowly roll the board off the chairs its been balanced on for a week or so and position it in the space designated.
The landings stacked high with tool boxes, boxes of pits and pieces and everything else we had to throw out of the room.
Just at the moment its far to hot to shift stuff around and it may well wait till this evening.
No turntable delivered yet but a pack of extra lead offs has so at least I can now see what some of it actually looks like.

After reading your post, it makes me want to go and have a lie down  :doh:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2014, 03:28:41 PM
Well the boards horizontal again :claphappy:.............but so am I for an hour. It took 3 of us to empty the layout area, screw the legs back on the layout and slowly roll the board off the chairs its been balanced on for a week or so and position it in the space designated.
The landings stacked high with tool boxes, boxes of pits and pieces and everything else we had to throw out of the room.
Just at the moment its far to hot to shift stuff around and it may well wait till this evening.
No turntable delivered yet but a pack of extra lead offs has so at least I can now see what some of it actually looks like.
Go for it  :thumbsup: I find that even a short rest can put power back in this old body
Please do not use the break as an excuse to drain a few damp glasses, Tea or coffee is much (?) better

After reading your post, it makes me want to go and have a lie down  :doh:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on July 17, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
Who's been a busy boy then, as John says, enough to make you want to go and have a siesta.   ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2014, 08:31:09 PM
Who's been a busy boy then, as John says, enough to make you want to go and have a siesta.   ;)
Siestas are allowed this week because its built up to today being the hottest day of the year so far and they threaten hotter tomorrow +nasty thunderstorms for the weekend
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 19, 2014, 01:50:14 PM
Spent quite a while this morning drilling holes for point switches which wasn't exactly exiting but had to be done.
Some questioned the risks of drilling such a thin sheet of ali but I didn't have any problems, I had backed it up with a 1.5mm sheet of plasticard anyway and started with a 1mm hand drill followed by 1.8mm in a mini (dremel type) drill before finally drilling them out full size with a lathe centring drill bit in a full size cordless drill at low speed. Turned out a bit burry but they soon vanished under a countersinking bit..
Then the postman came  :claphappy: :claphappy: nice man delivered my Fleischmann turntable :goggleeyes: :goggleeyes:  Looks fantastic so I`ll soon be drilling a 7" ish hole to sit that in.
1 thing Im not overjoyed with is the lack of a wiring diagram. The instructions tell  you what to do with little explanation so I may have to ask around for a numpties wiring diagram with pictures.
I would love to fit it today but point switch wiring must take priority
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 19, 2014, 03:32:38 PM
 :doh: Just looked through the instructions again and found the wiring diagram. Wire colours are in German of course  so I can soon (I hope) find an English translation for the colours and then (in time) away we go  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 19, 2014, 08:28:46 PM
I  put the turntable and the switch in front of me, translated the instruction colours into English and the mist rolled away from my eyes and single brain cell. In fact it looks quite straightforward.
hacking out the hole maybe fun as it runs very close to my power bus but if Im careful and cut the hole on sections I should be able to hold the power bus out of the way till the jigsaw blades gone past the risky area.
For a change from the norm. just now I set about removing the sidings and points ready for the turntable project
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on July 20, 2014, 12:03:10 PM
I bought an adjustable hole cutter from the local Chinese shop, think it is called a trepanning cutter, has a central drill and a cutter on the end of an arm, makes a nice neat hole.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 20, 2014, 03:16:33 PM
I bought an adjustable hole cutter from the local Chinese shop, think it is called a trepanning cutter, has a central drill and a cutter on the end of an arm, makes a nice neat hole.
I know, I looked at them last week whilst we were in a tool shop but decided I couldn't justify the price with everything else Ive been buying
Ive flattened the area and cleared 90% of the remaining rubbish  (torn cork sheeting etc) out of the way.
Made myself a jig to mark out 3 circles..
1 a central hub
2 a circle 1.5" smaller than the hole needed
3 a circle of exactly the right size to fit the turntable in.
The hub gives me a reference point as to where the centre is and ill be left in a web of spokes radiating out to the middle circle. Doing it this way I can adjust the outer hole slightly to avoid any important wiring and wooden battening.
I intended to drill lead holes for the jigsaw and do it now but the heats affecting my breathing so it will have to wait till later or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 20, 2014, 03:19:02 PM
I hope that you'll have cooler weather, tomorrow, John. We, normally, experience the same weather, (approximately) as England but  day or two later and we're due to have a big thunderstorm, tomorrow, followed by a drop in the very high temperatures we're also currently experiencing. (Great for drying paint though!)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 21, 2014, 04:31:20 PM
Simple job today.
Cut out the 'pie dish hole' (as my eldest son calls it) with the jigsaw. from the holes I opened up yesterday it looked like it would fit between the obstacles with a few mm to spare
WRONG!!
It missed the power bus by 2mm but ate into the leg and holding bolts the other side bu the thickness of the leg ..9mm  :veryangry: so I had to unbolt the leg and hac carefully saw through the bit in the way. Its still held on by 4 bolts but the lower end of the jigsaw blade would have argued drastically with the bolt head unless it was removed during sawing.
Of course the batten across the board was in the way :veryangry: the jigsaw  needing to saw through it at 45% approximately....there is now no batten but two sawn of strips of wood strengthened by an add on batten at the bottom
Does the dish fit.  :claphappy: yups like a dream so one the new cork sheet arrives tomorrow I can start to look forward again.
Could do more now but the gas boilers just been serviced and the radiators are very `ot just like the weather so its relax time
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 21, 2014, 04:42:30 PM
Well done on overcoming those things that are sent to try us  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 21, 2014, 05:02:09 PM
I should think you're well on the way to becoming a qualifiedcertified  chippie now, John :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 21, 2014, 07:37:09 PM
I should think you're well on the way to becoming a qualifiedcertified  chippie now, John :D
Oh Ive been ready to be certified for years :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 22, 2014, 02:00:30 PM
 :veryangry: The heats taken its toll  >:(
Woke up this morning with a violent throbbing  head , swimming eyesight and dizziness all down to the heat wave.
No modelling today that's certain but luckily enough Ive got a 3 monthly check-up with my GP booked for tomorrow morning
Till then :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 22, 2014, 03:10:50 PM
:veryangry: The heats taken its toll  >:(
Woke up this morning with a violent throbbing  head , swimming eyesight and dizziness all down to the heat wave.
No modelling today that's certain but luckily enough Ive got a 3 monthly check-up with my GP booked for tomorrow morning
Till then :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

I was not feeling as bad as you when I woke up but the heat does have me floored.  Anything I do I end up drenched in sweat and exhausted.  I even had to cancel my visit to see my Godson today because of the heat  :'(

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on July 22, 2014, 07:47:09 PM
Still following you ol' chap . . . and enjoying it.

Why does the heat affect you so much . . . what does q . . . doc think ?

Hang in there buddy . . . going to be hot again for next few days.  You could of course pop down here to somewhat cooler Cornland . . . only 25 today and the nights are quite cool !

Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 23, 2014, 04:24:03 PM
 :) managed to do a little soldering this afternoon.
Just wasn't up to the car journey and sitting around in the GPs this morning so cancelled the appointment just after 8AM which gave then time to refill the space.
Shivered and sweated for a couple of hours then started to improve.
GMsters have sent me the cork and the gravel sheet for the TT area but I dont think Im quite up to doing that just yet.
 learnt very early on in my horological life that if you drop something on the floor you just dont  move your feet because if you do its 99% certain you will tread on the dropped piece  :doh:
Well just now I unsoldered an LED from one of G Masters power supply units so I could extend the legs via a piece of wiring to show that power was on easily. Yups I dropped the LED and scanned the carpet for ages trying to find it. Eventually I did stand up and with great care moved away from my chair only to find that it was underneath my shoe the whole time and unbroken   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2014, 05:36:43 PM
It's too hot to do anything at the moment, Jon.
From someone who's worried I'm gonna short out my keyboard :worried: :sweat:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 23, 2014, 06:40:20 PM
I managed to unbox and check three new pieces of rolling stock, two boxes of Preiser figures and four new collets for my Dremel before I called time out  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 23, 2014, 07:48:08 PM
I managed to unbox and check three new pieces of rolling stock, two boxes of Preiser figures and four new collets for my Dremel before I called time out  :D

cheers John.
Well done that man  :thumbsup:
Ive managed one thing sinse our evening meal.............. :veryangry: :censored: came up stairs on my chair lift. Stepped off at the top, folded the arms and footboard up  for the night and ran it from the wall switch back down stairs.
Well actually half way down stairs before it did a Dapol and seized up solid  :(  Hope I don't have to negotiate the stairs in a hurry before we can get the service crew out
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on July 23, 2014, 09:48:29 PM
Hey . . . you must have a section of my railway  :bounce:

Tee Hee.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 24, 2014, 10:03:43 AM
Hey . . . you must have a section of my railway  :bounce:

Tee Hee.
In which case I`ll tell you how the service department fixed my problem.
A sweet young lady answered when SHMBO phoned and told us what to do. It entailed turning everything off. shaking everything vigorously then switching everything back on..........and it  :censored: well worked. :goggleeyes: :goggleeyes: Mind you if it happens again they will put a service engineer in the post to come and sort it out for us.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 24, 2014, 11:54:35 AM

It entailed turning everything off. shaking everything vigorously then switching everything back on..........and it  :censored: well worked. :goggleeyes: :goggleeyes: Mind you if it happens again they will put a service engineer in the post to come and sort it out for us.

That could be something to look forward to if it breaks down while you are using it, I can just picture your family shaking the chair with you seated to get it going again  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

They don't put service engineers in the post these days John, they email them  :angel:  :sorrysign:

I have had another trying morning.  The postman delivered a new loco, so I have to unpack that, then put it on the test track to check it worked, which it does beautifully  :D.  If I feel up to doing any more after my obligatory afternoon nap, I will take some pictures for the American modellers to drool over  :drool:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 24, 2014, 12:34:46 PM

I have had another trying morning.  The postman delivered a new loco, so I have to unpack that, then put it on the test track to check it worked, which it does beautifully  :D.  If I feel up to doing any more after my obligatory afternoon nap, I will take some pictures for the American modellers to drool over  :drool:

cheers John.

Strangely enough I have had a similar stressful morning as I've received a class 47 which has been away for repair and had to test it. All is well with the world :)
Now to relax and watch the Tour de France after such exertions ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on July 24, 2014, 03:53:49 PM
I think I need to buy a loco and build a test track . . . . .  :foodanddrink:

Hot and humid Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 24, 2014, 07:21:38 PM
Wanted to PVA the sheet of cork underlay down tonight so it would be ready for further work in the morning but the rooms so hot and dry I think the PVA will be dry before Ive got the cork laid on top of it.
Why does cork from a roll always roll itself up tight again as soon as you release it ?...just like wallpaper
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 24, 2014, 07:27:08 PM
Is there any chance you can weigh it down and leave it unrolled over night?

That way it will be flat, just like the earth, and ready to be PVA'd tomorrow morning before the big yellow thing in the sky cooks everything  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 24, 2014, 08:33:04 PM
Is there any chance you can weigh it down and leave it unrolled over night?

That way it will be flat, just like the earth, and ready to be PVA'd tomorrow morning before the big yellow thing in the sky cooks everything  :D

cheers John.
Thanks John I did exactly that about 3pm so it 'should' have plenty of time to flatten itself
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 25, 2014, 10:57:45 AM
 :hmmm: well the cork still curled up like a B.R. egg sandwich  at the end of a quiet week but I took a chance and squirted copious amounts of cheepo PVA glue over the required area and then finished spreading it about with the edge of an old credit type card.
The glue was 'grabbing' the cork even as I laid it but I won and it looked a perfect (nearly) fit.
All done and dusted by 09-30 before the sun got really going.
Just need to slice the turntable hole out of the middle and fit in more sensible sized pieces where the old stuff was badly glued down :-[ This cork seems thicker than the stuff I had when I started off last year but both are supposed to be 1.5mm. Any gaps will be wiped over with pollifilla before the ground cover is put down so small gaps are acceptable.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 25, 2014, 11:23:02 AM
Well done that man  :claphappy:

I was just crawling out of bed at 9-30am  :sleep:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 25, 2014, 11:35:46 AM


I was just crawling out of bed at 9-30am  :sleep:

cheers John.
Oh you got up early like me today then  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on July 25, 2014, 02:12:05 PM
Up at six am . . . . although usually I struggle out of bed around nine.  This retirement stuff is tough sometimes


Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 25, 2014, 02:45:12 PM
If anybody decides to use a sheet (or sheets) of G Masters 23 gravel mat open it outside or over a bin because it sheds loose gravel like mad. Even as you lay it tiny bits break off the backing .
I am going to spray it with weak PVA and water once its dried down to bind the surface  >:D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 25, 2014, 07:26:10 PM
 :worried: knitting time
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0158.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0158.jpg.html)
 and sinse I took that theres a few more appeared  :doh:
Yesterday there was nothing but destruction and a "gert greet `ole" and now cork underlay nearly completed and gravel matting in progress
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0159.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0159.jpg.html)

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0160.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0160.jpg.html)
Laying all  that ballast has fair worn me out
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 26, 2014, 03:50:24 PM
 :scowl: I hate bulk soldering 5 or six at a times ok but Ive just soldered about  50 in the back of my switch panel

Only another 48 to go  :veryangry: :veryangry:
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on July 26, 2014, 07:21:02 PM
I find soldering very therapeutic, maybe it is because at one time I did it all day when I worked in an electronics factory on the production line soldering resistors and capacitors onto the printed circuit boards and we could all chat away to our hearts content so long as we got our quota done.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 30, 2014, 02:00:55 PM
My PC has gone slow so as I`m not feeling up to doing anything to the layout I think I will install the latest Wondows thingie

http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/image-1.jpeg.html?sort=3&o=0 (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/image-1.jpeg.html?sort=3&o=0)


It may take me a while but isn't modern technology fantastic?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
My PC has gone slow so as I`m not feeling up to doing anything to the layout I think I will install the latest Wondows thingie

[url]http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/image-1.jpeg.html?sort=3&o=0[/url] ([url]http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/image-1.jpeg.html?sort=3&o=0[/url])


It may take me a while but isn't modern technology fantastic?


 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
With 3711 to install that should keep you out of trouble for a while :-X
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on July 30, 2014, 02:39:59 PM
I've still got my set of Win 3.1 disks, how sad is that.   :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: NeMo on July 30, 2014, 02:47:56 PM
I've still got my set of Win 3.1 disks, how sad is that.   :)
Very. Or not. Depends on your point of view. I quite like hanging onto vintage software (and don't get me started on my old Mac collection...). I've got a boxed set of PowerPoint disks. From 1990 I think. There are hardbound manuals in there, colour brochures, all sorts of stuff. All told weighs a couple of pounds! Really amazing how things have changed. These days you'd be lucky to get a leaflet that tells you where to download the PDF version of the manual!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 30, 2014, 02:51:04 PM
Nearly made some ribald comment about your old Mac collection but refrained. See - I can do it sometimes :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ColinH on July 30, 2014, 07:20:35 PM
My PC has gone slow so as I`m not feeling up to doing anything to the layout I think I will install the latest Wondows thingie

[url]http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/image-1.jpeg.html?sort=3&o=0[/url] ([url]http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/image-1.jpeg.html?sort=3&o=0[/url])


It may take me a while but isn't modern technology fantastic?


Didn't know they still did 3.5 inch floppy discs  :o. I'd be right up the creek with no paddle as none of my computers have a suitable drive.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on July 30, 2014, 07:49:20 PM

 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
With 3711 to install that should keep you out of trouble for a while :-X

The trouble starts when you get to disk 3711 and the computer tells you it can't read it   >:D  :'(  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 02, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
 :( It could only happen to me  :(
Went into the train room early afternoon today and surveyed the situation. Decided to start by drilling he holes to mount the turntable switch only to find that the cordless  :censored: drill chuck had only enough power to last 3 whole revolutions so that's now on charge. Up the other end of the room was quite cool and the rain was lashing against the window so I decided to strip the remains of the old cork and relay with new well glued down 1.5mm sheet. Cut that and then trimmed it up where necessary. poured copious glue blobs on the board and spread ......I nearly had enough glue to cover the required area  :doh: A quick hunt round found a fresh bottle, not the same brand etc but the 2 mingled (?) together and the jobs done...Just leaves the gravel matting to top it off .
I wonder what will go wrong with that ?
Youngsters due any minute now so I better hose myself down
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 02, 2014, 03:30:01 PM
Hi John :wave: . . . What's gravel matting?

and any pics forthcoming ?

Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 02, 2014, 07:36:37 PM
The matting is GM23 gravel matt. Its shown on my last posted picture on page 29. Ive now managed to lay and glue it (or glue it and lay it) right to the back of the board. one strip near its middle has faded where the roll was dumped on the sunny windowsill during the past few days I used it as a quickest way to portray a wide expanse of gravel and it will need 'tarting  up'  to look more natural once the area is finished. Joins where overlapped certainly show up but Im sure scattering loose gravel and gluing that down with diluted pva will disguise my joins.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 02, 2014, 08:39:08 PM
I did wonder what that roll of stuff was as I'd not seen it before. . . I did wonder if you'd coated something yourself.  Clever :thumbsup:

I've just today laid the track in the loco yard so I am now faced with that daunting task of applying a texture.  Too late to copy your idea !

Keep up the good work and I'll catch up with you later  :beers:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 02, 2014, 08:44:27 PM
I did wonder what that roll of stuff was as I'd not seen it before. . . I did wonder if you'd coated something yourself.  Clever :thumbsup:

I've just today laid the track in the loco yard so I am now faced with that daunting task of applying a texture.  Too late to copy your idea !

Keep up the good work and I'll catch up with you later  :beers:
It is possible to cut it into the required shapes and glue it down between tracks etc.
A good way to ruining a pair of scissors though  ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 02, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
I can imagine  :hmmm:

Tis still too late for me as just got everything glued in place and a few small changes in levels.  I've never laid that charcoal coloured fine ballast in anger and over a very large area as well . . . so if you fancy popping over with your roll of stuff . . . . .

and I'll lend you my scissors.  Hee Hee  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 02, 2014, 09:26:35 PM
I can imagine  :hmmm:

Tis still too late for me as just got everything glued in place and a few small changes in levels.  I've never laid that charcoal coloured fine ballast in anger and over a very large area as well . . . so if you fancy popping over with your roll of stuff . . . . .

and I'll lend you my scissors.  Hee Hee  :smiley-laughing:
I must apologise. The day you want me to do it I am busy and also have a migraine 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 02, 2014, 10:19:32 PM
What a shame . . . . . :laugh3:

Whilst I'm here, I have just received a new GF loco and a Bachmann 6 pin decoder.  Do I have to get a dedicated DC N gauge controller to run it in . . or just pop the decoder in and run it on my DCC system.  My logical thought here is that if I'd bought a Dapol loco with decoder fitted I would just run it in on DCC.

Any thoughts  ???
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 03, 2014, 09:47:04 AM
What a shame . . . . . :laugh3:

Whilst I'm here, I have just received a new GF loco and a Bachmann 6 pin decoder.  Do I have to get a dedicated DC N gauge controller to run it in . . or just pop the decoder in and run it on my DCC system.  My logical thought here is that if I'd bought a Dapol loco with decoder fitted I would just run it in on DCC.

Any thoughts  ???
I understand that in most cases chipped locos can/will run with a DC controller but remember Im very much still at the bottom of the DCC learning curve
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Malc on August 03, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
What a shame . . . . . :laugh3:

Whilst I'm here, I have just received a new GF loco and a Bachmann 6 pin decoder.  Do I have to get a dedicated DC N gauge controller to run it in . . or just pop the decoder in and run it on my DCC system.  My logical thought here is that if I'd bought a Dapol loco with decoder fitted I would just run it in on DCC.

Any thoughts  ???
In answer to your question, they recommend running in on DC first, before fitting the chip. However, I think this is just to make sure you don't have any faults before you start messing with things. If you only have a DCC set up, just run it on moderate speed for 30mins in each direction.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 03, 2014, 10:15:59 AM
What a shame . . . . . :laugh3:

Whilst I'm here, I have just received a new GF loco and a Bachmann 6 pin decoder.  Do I have to get a dedicated DC N gauge controller to run it in . . or just pop the decoder in and run it on my DCC system.  My logical thought here is that if I'd bought a Dapol loco with decoder fitted I would just run it in on DCC.

Any thoughts  ???
In answer to your question, they recommend running in on DC first, before fitting the chip. However, I think this is just to make sure you don't have any faults before you start messing with things. If you only have a DCC set up, just run it on moderate speed for 30mins in each direction.
Ooops  I forgot the running in bit (I always do run locos in on DC before chipping though)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 03, 2014, 10:36:23 AM
Thanks Guys :thankyousign:

After burning out a new motor on DC last time I've decided to go straight in with the DCC chip.  I did speak with one of the Bachmann service team at the time and they advised that the 'running in' is primarily for the loco's running gears benefit !

Out of interest is DC n gauge a lesser voltage than 00 gauge. . . . and is everyone as engrossed in 'Juliaberg' as I am.

Sunny morning here in the SW.  Have a good day all  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: EtchedPixels on August 03, 2014, 02:22:07 PM
Its usually recommended to use a slightly lower voltage and yes.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 03, 2014, 03:52:52 PM
Stuff everywhere  >:( I really must have a tidy up and start finishing the switch  solderings off.
Instead I decided to check out my interoperation of the Fleischmann turntable wiring.
My GM transformer/power supply has 2 sets of terminals 1pr 12v DC and the other 16v accessories marked AC.
My brain cell told me that it would probably be safer to try installing the TT into 12v and only rewire to 16v if the lower power failed.
Anyway the switch is now mounted in its panel and hooked up to 12v so I ran the remaining wires into a chock block and joined the TT wires to its other side (matching colours as I went).
OK the turntables still laying on its side propped up against some boxes but with power supplied to the switch I moved it right-centre-left- thorough 360% and it worked 1st time.
I must say its a nice bit of kit. ..... overpriced of course and a lot of heart searching was put in before I finally ordered it.
I think its deserves new track for its feeds and tails etc so Ive ordered some fleischmann lengths just for turntable usage
   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 03, 2014, 07:02:43 PM
 :hellosign:

It's a lovely item J and I am green with envy :sick2: mainly cos my 8 s/h unit is only 150mm long, so if I ever get around to justifying (lotto or PB win) my American Big Boy . . . . . . . . I'll just have to build a big loop !

Tee Hee

ENJOY IT 'COS WER'RE NOT HERE FOR EVER !

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 03, 2014, 07:22:34 PM
The set of points which will feed the turntable got well and truly ( :censored:) some months back.
The main line curves round to the right whilst the side feed becomes the tt feed. The inner V had got a bit mangled but I had managed to get the main line part working partly due to a reasonably happy dose of 5minute epoxy. Its taken me most of the time Ive been ill to work out how to save the other rail. In the end with the care of a heart surgeon working on a wide awake patient  I set about things with a set of fine riffler files and a sharp knife blade. About 10 minutes in I thought that a total replacement set of points was the way ahead but that would come with so must disturbance in the already laid and tested track system I felt a hour or so work on whats already in place would be worth it (and fun).
I guess it took about 30+ minutes to cut the junk and rubbish out the way and then insert a patch of new cork under the fork. I teems a good place to start the run of Fleischmann track up to the ttable and so cut a IRJ in half so the new track was covered, lined up the other rail and join up with the points outer rail and then once pinned temporarily in the right position apply a good dollop of epoxy gue and leave to set.
 :claphappy: :claphappy: Its actually worked but is untested because with epoxy I like to leave it to cure 100% overnight then I can clean it down and test. It looks fine even now  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 03, 2014, 07:25:03 PM

ENJOY IT 'COS WER'RE NOT HERE FOR EVER !
Don't keep reminding me :(
Still I`ll see what mr GP says tomorrow
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 03, 2014, 07:27:41 PM
He'll probably want to put you down so how about dedicating your TT to me right now !

 :bounce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 03, 2014, 10:29:02 PM
Regarding your envy of Jon's TT, I think you meant to use  :envy: rather than  :sick2:
(Unless you're planning to barf on it of course) ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 03, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
In this instance dear Nobby . . . . . I wanted SICK !

Hoo Hoo !
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 05, 2014, 07:12:16 PM
Slow morning today sorting out 'stuff' both layout  and home related.
G. Masters delivered some Fleischmann track lengths  for the turntable (I must say I like their semi flexible track)  so that's now near the top of the priority list.
Tried my hardest to finish off the point motor switch panel but suddenly realised one of the switches was shorting out. Sorted and theres only another couple to finish wiring. I can then close the panel down and maybe, just maybe run a couple or 10 trains round for a bit.
Theres some odd dropper wiring jobs to finish off and then a darn good check out of everything before reinstalling the incline and viaduct again and landscaping the area under and around it  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 05, 2014, 07:41:33 PM
and then we'll get the latest photos . . . . . . pretty please !

 :claphappy:

 :claphappy:

 :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 07, 2014, 04:28:43 PM
and then we'll get the latest photos . . . . . . pretty please !

 :claphappy:

 :claphappy:

 :claphappy:
Down tiger  ::)
Nice to go into the train room just now and not be greeted by a cascade of random wires pouring out of a hole in the control panels back.
The last one is now wired and after 2 false starts call the points work ( 1 I need to very slightly tweek to make it run smoothly)
Couple of sidings need to be fitted but the points etc are already installed and droppers ready. Might finish those tomorrow before starting to play.
Ttable is a different project and will progress slowly and methodically once everything else is up and running. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 07, 2014, 07:10:32 PM
Many congratulations, John. Well done. Wiring nearly finished then, apart from the TT?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 07, 2014, 07:25:39 PM
Many congratulations, John. Well done. Wiring nearly finished then, apart from the TT?
:-\
That's right
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 09, 2014, 10:51:27 AM
Theres rumblings in the depths of my brain cell for a fairly major scenic modification to the layout. It neither requires track lifting or existing modification.
I think its going to take a certain amount of just sitting and weighing up all the options before I leap into action.  :dunce:
 Still I can work on other areas of the boards scenic and work round the area.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on August 09, 2014, 11:03:56 AM
Always a good idea to mull over scenic or track changes.

Like may others I'm sure, I have several layout plans/options both on paper or on planning software (wish I could get to grips with a 3D version) and a few more in my head.

Look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 09, 2014, 10:27:10 PM
Good evening  :hellosign:

Just passing through to see what you're up to. . . . a re-jig eh.  . . . which bit and why ?

Off to batten down as it might get a bit wet here tonight

 :wave:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 10, 2014, 11:54:42 AM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: Major short circuit occurring somewhere in the track wiring. I is not a happy bunny !!  :censored: :censored: :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bealman on August 10, 2014, 11:58:46 AM
Well divn't take it out on us  ;D :beers:

George
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 10, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Well divn't take it out on us  ;D :beers:

George
Thanks for your generous (?) offer of help  :hmmm: but Ive sorted it. A track pin had laid itself loosely across one of the tracks
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 10, 2014, 02:38:25 PM


Just passing through to see what you're up to. . . . a re-jig eh.  . . . which bit and why ?


 :wave:
Oh I cant divulge all that information.
 Maybe I might give the details out as a New Years treat for you all.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 10, 2014, 02:42:03 PM
Well divn't take it out on us  ;D :beers:

George
Thanks for your generous (?) offer of help  :hmmm: but Ive sorted it. A track pin had laid itself loosely across one of the tracks

I have heard of loose women but never loose track pins  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

However I am pleased you have found the culprit easily and Sunday can carry on peacefully  :D

cheers John.

p.s. Tell smileyjon nothing, he could be a spy  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 10, 2014, 03:07:33 PM
Well divn't take it out on us  ;D :beers:

George
Thanks for your generous (?) offer of help  :hmmm: but Ive sorted it. A track pin had laid itself loosely across one of the tracks

I have heard of loose women but never loose track pins  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

However I am pleased you have found the culprit easily and Sunday can carry on peacefully  :D

cheers John.

p.s. Tell smileyjon nothing, he could be a spy  :worried:
Ah   :worried: I wondered what his funny handshake was about
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Tom U on August 10, 2014, 03:47:45 PM
The short (!) answer is you could say once you were on the right track, you nailed it by pinpointing the fault  :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 10, 2014, 03:51:31 PM
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 10, 2014, 03:53:54 PM
The short (!) answer is you could say once you were on the right track, you nailed it by pinpointing the fault  :sorrysign:
The problem may be nailed for now but Im certain theres a few more waiting just round the corner for me to stumble across
At least Ive now got the turntable cobbled wired up and tested  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 10, 2014, 03:56:50 PM
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)
You look like you need a trip to the optician if your eyesight's that bad
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Tom U on August 10, 2014, 04:06:27 PM
Get two of those and you could make a big spectacle of yourself. :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bealman on August 10, 2014, 10:33:59 PM
Oh dear. I don't need this first thing in an Australian morning.

Pleased to hear problem sorted.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 12, 2014, 04:12:58 PM
Its just taken me an hour to connect a somewhat wiggly length of track from the turntable to the existing main track.
Worth it though (I hope).
The more I use Fleischmann track and rail joiners the better I like them.
Shouldn't take long to lay and connect the sidings to the turnout.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 12, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
Shouldn't take long to lay and connect the sidings to the turnout.


I would not tempt fate using a statement like that, I would rather put:

"It did not take long to lay and connect the sidings to the turnout."  :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 12, 2014, 04:45:28 PM


"It did not take long to lay and connect the sidings to the turnout."  :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:

cheers John.
:-[ I cant say that coz I havnt done it yet, but its only a case of joining 1 track piece to every run off place.
What can go wrong with that? :doh: :confused2:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 12, 2014, 07:15:41 PM
If ever I heard somebody tempting fate...........
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: austinbob on August 12, 2014, 07:21:41 PM
Quite...

If it can go wrong it will. Trust me!!

Bob Austin
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 12, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 15, 2014, 09:44:38 AM


"It did not take long to lay and connect the sidings to the turnout."  :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:

cheers John.
:-[ I cant say that coz I havnt done it yet, but its only a case of joining 1 track piece to every run off place.
What can go wrong with that? :doh: :confused2:
Well nothing did go wrong with the laying.
Ive yet to test that its running properly but everything checks out ok wiring wise.
I decided yesterday to run my GWR autocoach round the track for a few laps and onto the turntable. Unfortunatly when I cut the point motor actuating rods back I left most of them about  1mm to long and the autocoach snags at every point  :veryangry: I`ll have to go up the workshop and find my pair of narrow hard wire end cutters to trim them right back.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 15, 2014, 10:21:43 AM
I`ll have to go up the workshop and find my pair of narrow hard wire end cutters to trim them right back.


That is going to be a fiddly job  :doh:

BUT  :NGaugersRule:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 15, 2014, 11:24:05 AM
I used my railcutters on mine and totally b :censored: ed them up (the cutters) as the rods are too hard.
Seventeen quid down the drain!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 15, 2014, 11:34:36 AM
I used my railcutters on mine and totally b :censored: ed them up (the cutters) as the rods are too hard.
Seventeen quid down the drain!
Yes the railcutters arnt designed to cut hard stuff. Ive got a pair that was used for that some years back and they really do get b :censored: up cutting hard wire.
Ive just tried a couple of rods that need shortening and have found that the best way is to cut the pip off the end of the point activating bar and then going in with the heavy  cutters. I think the rods are now down to virtually level with the  sleeper tops now. Theres still quite a few to do so they may well prove me wrong  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on August 15, 2014, 12:13:37 PM
A warning lesson for us all!

Good luck with that.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 16, 2014, 10:35:13 AM
Spent a daft hour this morning just playing about testing all the point motors. Quite satisfying actually to hear and see them slide across from mainline to siding or the other way round. Managed (more by luck than judgement) to set all the switches so that down means that  the mainlines selected and upt sends the train off into a siding or another route.
Tomorrow the inspector of railways (Thomas) is coming over to lunch so everything will have to be working correctly or Grumpy Grampy  will be the  :censored: as usual.
Maybe I ought to run a loco or 10 round the layout before I do much more today. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 16, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
Of course! You can never do enough testing  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 16, 2014, 11:30:57 AM

Maybe I ought to run a loco or 10 round the layout before I do much more today. 

Solid thinking there, you know how critical the inspectors can be  :D

It is also a great idea to have a relaxing day watching the fruits of your labours chugging/ thundering around your track  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 16, 2014, 04:57:34 PM
 :hmmm:
Right own up you miserable crew !! Who when tidying up the wiring all those weeks ago left one poor point without a power feed?
Its not just a resting set of points its a dead set of points  :doh: although the point motors doing its job ok theres  no power to the track.  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 16, 2014, 08:53:51 PM
:hmmm:
Right own up you miserable crew !! Who when tidying up the wiring all those weeks ago left one poor point without a power feed?


I must confess...................it was Scotsoft :-X
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: davieb on August 16, 2014, 10:23:11 PM
 :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:  :laughabovepost:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 16, 2014, 10:32:39 PM
That's right, pick on the weak and disabled  :no:

Could not have been me anyway, if I laid the points they would be plug and play Kato Unitrack  :nerner:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 17, 2014, 11:16:11 AM
if I laid the points they would be plug and play Kato Unitrack  :nerner:
That's cheating  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 17, 2014, 11:20:06 AM
if I laid the points they would be plug and play Kato Unitrack  :nerner:
That's cheating  ::)

Anything for a stress free life  :angel:  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 17, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
Seems like everything's working now. A bit more tweeking required in places but the boards a goer after all the weeks of sorting point motors and wiring. Even the turntable rotates as its instructed to  :o :thumbsup:
The GF jinty is running round running itself in at the moment  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 17, 2014, 03:06:55 PM
I think we passed inspection today. The highlight seemed to be seeing the autocoach trundling onto the turntable, rotating 180% and rumbling back out onto the main track.
The whole track needs a  :censored: good clean as theres a few sticky bits as trains struggle to across them.......... I have till Friday to sort them out  :worried: (I`m told)
 Now I need a rest  :sleep: :sleep: :sweat:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 17, 2014, 04:11:47 PM
Give yourself a pat on the back, Jon. Full marks for getting there :claphappy:

P.S. How about a vid now you have things sorted? :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 19, 2014, 03:31:03 PM
 :o a vid?? NPN  :-[ Ive had the camcorder about 3 months now and still not worked out how to abuse use it.
Couple of quiet slow days here so far this week. A tweak here---a tweak there--- a fettle here and a fettle there + big hammer used in the strangest places  ::)
This afternoon Im just sat quietly sub-assembling all the 10/12 FLEISCHMANN buffer stops Ive had for months. Waiting now for some rock moulds that are overdue. Then I can get going on the scenic   :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 23, 2014, 09:24:00 AM
Once again the door to the railway room is partially  closed and only minimum entry and progress allowed until a new course of steroids that I had to start yesterday really kicks in  :(
Probably that will only be a day or so before improvement but its annoying
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on August 23, 2014, 09:40:00 AM
Hope the meds work and you feel better soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 23, 2014, 09:53:21 AM
More chill time to check that your locos are running properly in that case  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 23, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
Hope the meds work and you feel better soon.

Dave G

Seconded; very sorry to read about the temporary halt to your railway construction.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on August 23, 2014, 12:58:44 PM
Make sure the meds are working properly before starting work again or you could be back to square one and we need you back modelling.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 23, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
Make sure the meds are working properly before starting work again or you could be back to square one and we need you back modelling.

Yes. You naughty man. :telloff:  Haven't you been told not to do too much? How many times do you need telling? You just won't listen will you? I really don't know why I waste my time.
Am I sounding like your wife yet? :D ;)

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 23, 2014, 03:43:08 PM
Make sure the meds are working properly before starting work again or you could be back to square one and we need you back modelling.

Yes. You naughty man. :telloff:  Haven't you been told not to do too much? How many times do you need telling? You just won't listen will you? I really don't know why I waste my time.
Am I sounding like your wife yet? :D ;)
Nah ! more like my grandma  :P
I can honestly say though that until three weeks ago I hadn't needed any 'special medication' for just about 4 months
I should have backed the anti diabollics up with the steroids from the start but I hate taking either or both
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 23, 2014, 04:20:05 PM
You may have to ease up on some work items for a while . . . cleaning, dusting, vacuuming, gardening and grass cutting, washing, garbage disposal, dishes, cooking, bed making . . . . . .

Take care

Jon :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 24, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
Forgive me for I have sinned   :'(
Ive just ordered some wired rail joiners (never bought any before) to save on inhaling soldering fumes.
Sneaked out of the front door and facing down wind undercoat sprayed all my buffer frameworks.
Before you ask I did wear a facemask when spraying ! :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 24, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
I'm going to be using wired rail joiners, too. The fumes from spray painting with Halford's undercoat were bad enough, despite having a special face mask on when I did the actual painting, the stink lasted for hours despite having all the flat windows open and did my cough no good.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: NeMo on August 24, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
Forgive me for I have sinned   :'(
Ive just ordered some wired rail joiners...
No idea why some people are so negative about pre-soldered rail joiners. Would these people prefer we raised our own chickens for Sunday roast? Built our own cars to drive to work? Made our beds from rough-sawn timber before turning in for the night?

It's not as if soldering wires is essential to the hobby. It's useful for sure, but the one thing I never say when looking at a stellar layout is "wow, those are some really nicely soldered wires underneath the baseboard that I can't actually see". So long as the trains run, who cares how it's wired together?

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 24, 2014, 01:42:04 PM
I found my own soldering was not as good as pre-wired.  Found a guy on E . . y who sold really stunning ones a month or so ago.  I tried the Peco ones but they were a bit lose !
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 24, 2014, 03:57:14 PM
Forgive me for I have sinned   :'(
Ive just ordered some wired rail joiners (never bought any before) to save on inhaling soldering fumes.
Sneaked out of the front door and facing down wind undercoat sprayed all my buffer frameworks.
Before you ask I did wear a facemask when spraying ! :P
Its my thread so I`ll comment a bit on the above. My views and in no way those of others that I know off.
The disposable face masks that can be bought in 50`s etc. and the posh reusable versions tend to pay just lip service to whats really required.
They stop the paint dust etc from being inhaled but  do nothing for the fumes that are given off and end up in our lungs Those can only be addressed by buying  (not overly expensive) spray painting masks* with replaceable filters.
I remember back in the 1990s re-spraying my Cortina estate with just a handkerchief tied round my lower face. I suffered for months from that (maybe even now)
Rant over  :worried:

* ebay do quite a range  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 24, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
I found my own soldering was not as good as pre-wired.  Found a guy on E . . y who sold really stunning ones a month or so ago.  I tried the Peco ones but they were a bit lose !


This is where I sourced mine....

http://www.modellers-mecca.co.uk/electronic-components/9869-pcp3-pre-wired-fishplates-n-gauge-power-clip-code-80.html (http://www.modellers-mecca.co.uk/electronic-components/9869-pcp3-pre-wired-fishplates-n-gauge-power-clip-code-80.html)

No way are they loose. Be prepared for a bad case of Fishplate Finger :ouch:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on August 24, 2014, 09:10:45 PM
Not if you use KATO track and joiners  :P  :P  :P  :bounce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 24, 2014, 09:19:31 PM
Not if you use KATO track and joiners  :P  :P  :P  :bounce:


Not quite correct  ;)

http://www.fiferhobby.com/html/how_to_make_kato_unitrack_feed.html (http://www.fiferhobby.com/html/how_to_make_kato_unitrack_feed.html)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on August 25, 2014, 12:26:07 PM
Not if you use KATO track and joiners  :P  :P  :P  :bounce:


Not quite correct  ;)

[url]http://www.fiferhobby.com/html/how_to_make_kato_unitrack_feed.html[/url] ([url]http://www.fiferhobby.com/html/how_to_make_kato_unitrack_feed.html[/url])

cheers John.


Fair comment if you have the time and the capability
Graham
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 25, 2014, 04:43:00 PM
Spray priming from yesterday worked out fine. showed up a couple of moulding marks bu they can soon be filled off.
Experimented today with a rather large rock mold. Not very happy with the way its turning out. I used a mix of pollifilla and water only and may have diluted the powder down to much. After about 4 hours it still feels soft and slightly flexible + it weighs like a house brick.
Will use a thicker mix next time with a blob of PVA, some bank statement shreddings and an odd mini lump of expanded polystyrene or use some plaster of parris bandaging and PVA to try and form a concave rock face. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 25, 2014, 07:00:54 PM
Spray priming from yesterday worked out fine. showed up a couple of moulding marks bu they can soon be filled off.
Experimented today with a rather large rock mold. Not very happy with the way its turning out. I used a mix of pollifilla and water only and may have diluted the powder down to much. After about 4 hours it still feels soft and slightly flexible + it weighs like a house brick.
Will use a thicker mix next time with a blob of PVA, some bank statement shreddings and an odd mini lump of expanded polystyrene or use some plaster of parris bandaging and PVA to try and form a concave rock face.
...............or I might have to rethink and go for the plaster bandage over formers using minimum cast rock faces
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 27, 2014, 04:12:29 PM
An interesting 2 days and nothing apart from forming ideas available in my 2 remaining brain cells.
I was sat quietly yesterday painting buffers when I started thinking about 'wurldend' (the raised removable end at the rear of Rule1shire.
It seemed to me to be rather low and as my incline is now nice and easy for the locos even on bends I thought about raising the whole thing. The 'bridge' end can go up a good 20mm before it drags the incline off slope so Ive now got to build suitable piles and redesign the actual bridge.  I do have for no explainable reason 2 packs of Peco girder bridge sides and an Eflay  job lot of Faller viaduct ramps  I won dirt cheap so that parts back in square one (actually square two because I joined some of it up this morning).
I  think 'wurldsend' may end up as a rather nice rural retreat rather than the original concept of an out of town run down slum.....Time will tell it has yet to be re-tracked and pointed.
It should cost me very little as I think I have nearly everything for it in stock.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on August 27, 2014, 04:18:03 PM
Nice when you have all the kit needed already to hand

Look forward to seeing how the 'slum' clearance project turns out!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 27, 2014, 04:24:52 PM
Nice when you have all the kit needed already to hand

Look forward to seeing how the 'slum' clearance project turns out!

Dave G
;) So do I actually  :goggleeyes:
Basically once cleared and 'levelled('?) it should give me a sub board of 36 X 9 inches to play with
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 27, 2014, 06:02:29 PM
You cannot have enough real estate  :wave:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 27, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
You cannot have enough real estate  :wave:
  :doh: Oh no its not a real estate. Its just the model of some  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 27, 2014, 08:00:01 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 27, 2014, 09:36:33 PM
An interesting 2 days and nothing apart from forming ideas available in my 2 remaining brain cells.


At least you have 2 to rub together, John :-[

Being in possession of just the one, please can you do a tutorial on how you build your pies?


so Ive now got to build suitable pies

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 28, 2014, 09:27:08 AM
Quote from: newportnobby
Being in possession of just the one, please can you do a tutorial on how you build your pies?


 :doh: I wus hungry when I wrote that   :confused1:
The forum needs a cookery section for recipes, cures and incahol production
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 28, 2014, 04:29:09 PM
So its get out my box of pier raisers by Faller and find the box MT  :censored: :'( and then remembered that last time I needed to order some the supplier was out of stock. All they do is make the actual bridge pier look as if its built on a concrete base but they are handy for adjusting height. .....New box now on order.
Spent ages removing the bridge safety barrier and preparing it to take the girder bridge directly on the top of where it was. Looked reasonable once I had done one side but decided to progress with that side and do the other later if all turned out OK.
Problem occurred when it came to attaching the girder sides :doh: A good gluing jig was required to hold everything square. None of the 'handy gizmo tools' would work with the  viaduct track sections. Ended up with wood and clamps nearly everywhere  :censored: That didn't work so resorted to k.i.s.s and   everything was help firmly with just 2 big and 2 small clamps :claphappy:
3 girder sections are needed each side with a full 'span' centrally placed and a cut and shunt section either side of it
Now relaxing for an hour or 3 to let all the glued sections cure hard
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 29, 2014, 10:54:46 AM
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0163.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0163.jpg.html)
How the `eck did I manage to upload this correctly??

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0161.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0161.jpg.html)
More later now that side 2 is gluing
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 29, 2014, 11:14:39 AM
All looking good, John, especially the girder bridge :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 29, 2014, 11:32:45 AM
All looking good, John, especially the girder bridge :thumbsup:
Thanks. I`m a bit worried because the incline angle is creeping up from just under 2% to just over 2.5%. I may have to re-adjust some parts of it. Its not intended to run long trains up/along it so I may be lucky. I thing my 2 DC terriers would need to double head when chipped but that will be some time in the future.
With road tax, MOT and service due on the car and insurance paid for it last month railway expenditure may be curtailed for a month or 4    :( :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 29, 2014, 04:24:13 PM
 :doh: Just when all was going well................................................................
we had visitors arrive      ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on August 29, 2014, 08:30:35 PM
Did they arrive bearing any N gauge gifts ??
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 29, 2014, 09:06:20 PM
Did they arrive bearing any N gauge gifts ??
No  :worried: just a big appetite. :laughabovepost:
Still she is a great looker ;) and always enjoys cuddling up to me  :goggleeyes:  Just proves I can still pull em in though at 15months old she is a bit young for her grumpy grampy  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on August 29, 2014, 09:21:29 PM
I'm sure you are a very ungrumpy grampy really.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 29, 2014, 09:38:39 PM
I'm sure you are a very ungrumpy grampy really.
:-[ Bah humbug!  (bless her  :-* )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 29, 2014, 10:41:31 PM
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)


cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 30, 2014, 10:06:24 AM
(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)


cheers John.
How dare you post a picture of me without my consent ?  >:D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on August 30, 2014, 10:08:24 AM

How dare you post a picture of me without my consent ?  >:D

Oh shut your face and give us' a hug  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 30, 2014, 10:10:03 AM

How dare you post a picture of me without my consent ?  >:D

Oh shut your face and give us' a hug  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
GERRRRrroff !!!!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 30, 2014, 02:31:00 PM
Strange how sometimes you can just look at something and know its not going to work out. >:D
well that's what happened this morning when I looked in at the layout......
The raising of the upper end of the viaduct showed in an instant that it was going to be to steep  :censored: :veryangry:
so I finished off the bridge and gave it a coat of spray paint. Back with the layout I huffed and puffed and swore at it then moved 1 support slightly to a new position and got several other bases painted just in case I found a way of utilising them. It still looked wrong but after lunch I decided to bite the bullet and see where corrections were needed. 1st I cleaned the track a bit and then pressed my little old Dapol (cant pull much) Terrier into use. It actually ran up and down the complete length of the incline with no run up to get it going :thumbsup:
Ran it back down and then being a sadist shoved my 2 excursion coaches on the back...It actually ran up with a fraction of wheel spin when I hit the throttle a tad hard.
Next came my GF Hall class on its own and then with 2 (weighted) coaches in tow  :thumbsup: I made it do it twice to prove it wasn't a fluke.
As said before only short trains will use the viaduct so I am (for once) happy.
Very poor  quality pictures coming up if I get things right.......

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0164.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0164.jpg.html)

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0166.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0166.jpg.html)

and a murky still drying bridge

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0167.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0167.jpg.html)

  The old bridge had a big sag taking up nearly the whole length and nothing I could do would rectify it....hence the new improved (?) version
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 30, 2014, 03:06:04 PM
What the heck, John?
If the gradient works to your satisfaction then good on yer :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 30, 2014, 03:10:09 PM
What the heck, John?
If the gradient works to your satisfaction then good on yer :thumbsup:
I know - I know but its against the laws of physicals  ::) but it WILL stay  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on August 30, 2014, 03:13:01 PM
Hey . . my local line from Gunnislake across the valley runs at 1 in 38 so if it works then that's fine and if you get into difficulty later add a banking engine or convert to rack and pinion.

L o o k i n g  g o o d !

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 30, 2014, 04:04:31 PM
Hey . . my local line from Gunnislake across the valley runs at 1 in 38 so if it works then that's fine and if you get into difficulty later add a banking engine or convert to rack and pinion.

L o o k i n g  g o o d !

 :thumbsup:
Sounds encouraging  :thumbsup:
I actually have a fleischmann  rack and pinion loco and 2 lengths of track for it but I have another (somewhere in the future ) plan for it all.
I can now add and glue in position a few more piers for safety now the angle of dangle is proven  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on August 30, 2014, 04:49:39 PM
That long girder bridge should look great. I'm hoping to incorporate something similar into Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 01, 2014, 11:12:37 AM
The on going (boring) saga of the incline continues   ::)
Somebody hadn't fixed the track in its incline bed and it could give/lift a few mm as a loco passed over it. It had to come down anyway for fitting a power feed at the top and a very short connection track length for the bridge to join. (Incline Peco flexi and bridge Flieschmann track)
The 5 pillars /supports were in place and  hold the trackbed rather firmly.
soooooooooooooooooo............
The track has now been held firmly in the trackbed by wrapping a very fine wire round a sleeper and trackbed cross member and then twisting the ends tight. Cant remember how many I tied but it seems to work
The kit came with a trellis that could fit under the trackbed and form a rather nice visual effect.
I decided to use it and spent a couple of hours fettling and fitting it. It actually hide the trackbed so I decided that extra incline pillers would look better even if the wernt doing anything.
Theres now 4 dummy pillars positioned in such a way as they look ok but are about 1.5-2mm short
Painting will probably be left as far as the inclines concerned until its next required to be removed for some work in the futue.;
All the pillars/piers are being 'set in' the bedrock and bases will be foliaged as time goes by
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 01, 2014, 11:23:58 AM
It all sounds rather good, John, but dust that perishing camera thing off and let's see some pics :telloff:
 :photospleasesign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 01, 2014, 02:10:13 PM
To keep NPN quiet........... ;) :smiley-laughing:.
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0168.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0168.jpg.html)
And
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0169.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0169.jpg.html)
Give an idea of things.
All piers now glued in position rather than just posing where they go
Pictures make It look as if some piers are outside the latticework sides but that's just an optical elusion they are actually centrally placed inside like the others
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 01, 2014, 03:34:36 PM
That's better! I think you may have gone OTT with the blue sky backscene, though :-X

I'll keep quiet now :zippedmouth:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 01, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
That's better! I think you may have gone OTT with the blue sky backscene, though :-X
That been done for my view of the Himalayas
 in the background but I still cant get it to 1:1 scale :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on September 01, 2014, 08:47:42 PM
When are you going to bore through the wall so that your track links up with the girder bridge on top of the music centre ?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 02, 2014, 09:31:41 AM
When are you going to bore through the wall so that your track links up with the girder bridge on top of the music centre ?

That and other modifications have been considered but brushed aside when I think of the tongue lashing that it wuld bring forth from my other half
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 02, 2014, 04:35:57 PM
Fiddle about and minimum progress today   ::). I really can`t point at anything layout wise and say ''Ive done that today'' but silly little oddments have been produced and hopefully will fit where I want them later in the week.
Ive ordered a couple of items from

 http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/index.asp?l=gb (http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/index.asp?l=gb)
 
during the last few weeks. With the pound () as it is they have some good prices and give a good service Only snag is any UPS tracking numbers they give you are never recognised by UPS. but the stuff arrives via them anyway.
Package recieved today contained a couple of building kits that in a way compliment each other although I think one of them is going to require a fair bit of kit bashing/bodging  :doh:
I cant even justify starting on them yet but I guess I may do  dry run or so on the one that needs the most work.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on September 02, 2014, 07:37:11 PM
I'd go with Martins idea . . . . but pretend you're banged up in Colditz and fit false fronts to hide the tunnelling  . . . . . . :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on September 02, 2014, 08:36:13 PM
Thanks for the link to the model shop Jon. I'll have a good look and see if anything useful takes my fancy .
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 02, 2014, 09:01:27 PM
Thanks for the link to the model shop Jon. I'll have a good look and see if anything useful takes my fancy .
You can build up a 'bonus' there which you can carry forward (?) or use as an added discount on your next order.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 03, 2014, 09:38:45 AM
I think its time to skip a few procedures and fit 'wurldsend' back in a (now) raised position.
That way I can modify it to line up with the bridge exactly.
I need to strip it back to bare cork underlay to start with and glue a new thin sheet of cork over the top of it.
The new track will be Fleishmann flexi and points Im hoping to heavily sculpture the landscape to allow tourists to relax and explore the area. I may if possible go quite high with the scenic which may be formed cby spray foam gap filler and heavy duty knife carving with a plaster skin.
Today though I believe we are due to go over to Greenham Common and search/pick blackberries and have a picnic
While SHMBO pick berries I can wiz up and down the parameter tracks on my mobility scooter  :smiley-laughing: :claphappy: Pity they dug up the runway and let nature take its course. I think that would have been great roaring back and forth along it
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on September 03, 2014, 10:47:18 AM
I'm guessing you have replaced the little electric drive with a big block vee eight . . . . brilliant  :smiley-laughing:

Have a good day John

 :wave:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 03, 2014, 02:55:16 PM
I'm guessing you have replaced the little electric drive with a big block vee eight . . . . brilliant  :smiley-laughing:

Have a good day John

 :wave:
That was supposed to be a secret :veryangry:
2 ice cream tubs  filled with 4lbs. of  blackberries but we left the ones near the old nuke bunkers because they were sort of throbbing blue-green and back again  :worried:
Time to cool back now and infuse coffee by the gallon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on September 03, 2014, 05:09:16 PM
There are so many bb's this year . . sadly no green, glow-in-the-dark ones to be found here  :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 05, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
The short fat controller is due over this afternoon and hopes that Ive got some trains able to run  :worried:
Just sent a track cleaner loco round the outer track about 10 times and hope everything is now clean
Defiantly a DC running occasion so that Thomas can see some of the 'oldie' locos running.  :help:
Glued a layer of 3mm ply over wurldend  track bed yesterday and its now ready for corking. (Theres a puddle of PVA dripped off one end of it during the night band dried into the carpet :worried: SWMBOd is not amused  and I cant really blame her  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on September 05, 2014, 12:12:55 PM
Do track cleaning wagons really work that well?
My layout is DCC and I know they can't be used with that, but I also have a DC controller, and it would be worth getting a cheap DC loco to tow the cleaning wagon around if they are good enough to merit one....
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on September 05, 2014, 01:54:42 PM
I did that many years ago and sneakily cut it out and glued in a couple of tufts to hide the hole.  Lasted for years but was eventually discovered.

Who me ? ? ? ?

 :wave:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 05, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Do track cleaning wagons really work that well?
My layout is DCC and I know they can't be used with that, but I also have a DC controller, and it would be worth getting a cheap DC loco to tow the cleaning wagon around if they are good enough to merit one....

Ive got a Tomix one that is DCC chipped + a Fleischmann track cleaning loco which is DCC but for day to day cleaning the Gaugemaster ones that hang beneath a wagon do a good job ( http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GM39&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Gaugemaster (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GM39&style=main&strType=&Mcode=Gaugemaster) GM39 ) and work on DC and DCC.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 05, 2014, 02:08:52 PM
I did that many years ago and sneakily cut it out and glued in a couple of tufts to hide the hole.  Lasted for years but was eventually discovered.

Who me ? ? ? ?

 :wave:
Unfortunately its already been spotted  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 05, 2014, 02:28:24 PM
Theres a puddle of PVA dripped off one end of it during the night band dried into the carpet :worried: SWMBOd is not amused  and I cant really blame her  :hmmm:

I'm a little disappointed to find you underselling yourself like this.  That's a sample of a tough, hard-wearing and stain resistant coating that will outlast the rest of the carpet by many years.  Give her a quote for the whole room and we'll say no more about it ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 05, 2014, 03:17:10 PM
Theres a puddle of PVA dripped off one end of it during the night band dried into the carpet :worried: SWMBOd is not amused  and I cant really blame her  :hmmm:

I'm a little disappointed to find you underselling yourself like this.  That's a sample of a tough, hard-wearing and stain resistant coating that will outlast the rest of the carpet by many years.  Give her a quote for the whole room and we'll say no more about it ;)

 :smiley-laughing: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 05, 2014, 03:58:58 PM
Theres a puddle of PVA dripped off one end of it during the night band dried into the carpet :worried: SWMBOd is not amused  and I cant really blame her  :hmmm:

I'm a little disappointed to find you underselling yourself like this.  That's a sample of a tough, hard-wearing and stain resistant coating that will outlast the rest of the carpet by many years.  Give her a quote for the whole room and we'll say no more about it ;)
:doh: You must think that I have a death wish  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Lemland on September 05, 2014, 04:17:44 PM
Try these three steps. First remove the glue parts that can be removed with a small knife without ruining the carpet. Then use warm water with a bit of soap in it to remove the rest of the glue. You might want to test this second step on a piece of carpet that is normally not visible (like under a cupboard or so). Last step is buying her flowers.

Bart
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on September 05, 2014, 04:37:13 PM
Do track cleaning wagons really work that well?
My layout is DCC and I know they can't be used with that, but I also have a DC controller, and it would be worth getting a cheap DC loco to tow the cleaning wagon around if they are good enough to merit one....

Most track cleaning wagons work fine on DCC it is just the high frequency Relco electronic type cleaners that cause problems AFAIK. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 10, 2014, 04:26:39 PM
Not done a thing to the layout this week  :( As per usual a 1.5 hour trip into the hospital for a check-up has nobbled me for a few days.  Nothing specific just a feeling of total laziness after an internal inspection via a 6" naval shell or something of a similar size ..... still I`m beginning to find sitting down is getting less painful  :-\
Maybe tomorrow will see me back in the layout room again 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 10, 2014, 05:06:43 PM
Nothing specific just a feeling of total laziness after an internal inspection via a 6" naval shell or something of a similar size

Yikes :o
Hope it wasn't a heat seeking variety :no:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 13, 2014, 11:05:29 AM
I think that for a while modelling may have to take  an even further step into the background.
Ive known that my good lady has not been on her best for a few weeks now but whenever Ive asked I have been told she is ok..........until this morning when she finally told me that for a few weeks now she has felt somehow detatched from whats going on and even feels as if its somebody else doing things and she is just looking on.
1st step now has to be the doctors on Monday morning and work from there.
To say I`m worried is an understatement so may not be around as much for a while. :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on September 13, 2014, 11:11:45 AM
Really sorry to hear your news John, just hope it is something minor and will pass on with a little treatment, just hope and pray it all works out ok. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on September 13, 2014, 11:13:33 AM
Yes me too Jon, hope it all turns out OK
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 13, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
Really sorry to read that, Jon. I do hope your wife's situation will not be as bad as it may now appear.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on September 13, 2014, 12:10:01 PM
Fingers crossed John that it's nothing serious . . . this getting older stuff is just so rubbish

Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on September 13, 2014, 03:20:37 PM
Sorry to read your news, Jon.

Hope all things get sorted and your lady feels much better very soon.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on September 13, 2014, 04:05:33 PM
Best wishes to you both Jon.
Here's hoping for good news at the doctors.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 13, 2014, 09:38:15 PM
Just adding my best wishes also to Mrs Clox and I hope all is well after the visit to the Doc.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 15, 2014, 11:10:09 AM
Thanks everybody many thanks for the best wishes above.
Ann managed to get a doctors appointment for this morning and spent quite a time just chatting to her.
It seems that its anxiety which in a way isn't surprising considering she has had very mild agoraphobia for a number of years.
For now she`s on some tablets that will probably take a couple of weeks to kick in but at least something is being done and already she feels relieved that's it no worse.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 15, 2014, 11:13:38 AM
Very glad to read that it is nothing too serious, Jon. I hope your wife will soon be feeling much better.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on September 15, 2014, 11:18:52 AM
That's good to hear, Jon.

Best wishes to you both.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on September 15, 2014, 11:38:31 AM
Glad to hear it's not too serious.
Let's hope she starts to improve soon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 15, 2014, 12:44:19 PM
I'm glad your minds have been eased over the cause of the problem, Jon, and hope Ann is feeling more chipper very soon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lionwing on September 15, 2014, 01:14:53 PM
Jon

Glad to hear you have a diagnosis and treatment for your wife.

Mental illness can be very difficult for the sufferer and their nearest and dearest to deal with.

Hope the both of you will be ok.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on September 15, 2014, 06:24:41 PM
Thank you for the update Mr clod . . . I think we all need to keep taking the pills (behave Nobby !)

 :wave:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 20, 2014, 04:32:23 PM
Ive managed to do a little bit. The  trouble is it all went wrong X2 at least  :doh:
With the incline completed and tested it was time to fit the actual viaduct across the other tracks as it always was in the past. Obviously the levels weren't going to line up but that was partly due to me wanting 'wurldsend' to be raised a bit.
Well the outcome was that the bridge looked more like a ski jump and had risen over 3/16"s in its 16inch length. It also was such a tight fit between ends and the side that I had to saw out a wider space for it to fit into.
I then had to hack carefully saw the raised legs back. In the end it was easier to remove all of them and replace with  the correct height ones  :hmmm:  which of course worked out as to high again  :'(  and so one end had to be trimmed back by about 1/8".
It looks about right now but I am ....kered
Spotted a rather unusual white metal kit on a site yesterday and have ordered one as a future project if ever I can afford the extra bits needed  :worried: I think the kit might not be the very latest in quality looks but its worth the challenge
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 20, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
Thank you for the update Mr clod . . . I think we all need to keep taking the pills (behave Nobby !)

 :wave:

The nurse will be along with your medication very soon :laugh3:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on September 20, 2014, 08:08:38 PM
Thank you for the update Mr clod . . . I think we all need to keep taking the pills (behave Nobby !)

 :wave:

The nurse will be along with your medication very soon :laugh3:

Much better than a case of friend or emema  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on September 20, 2014, 09:00:33 PM
Jon . . . I'm inclined to be a bit worried for you

As a distraction, do tell us more about the white metal kit. :)

Oh I've a partly built (done the tricky stuff) r. c. trawler kit for sale with hundreds of white metal parts that doesn't worry about inclines !

Keep on building my friend  :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 21, 2014, 11:45:04 AM
Jon . . . I'm inclined to be a bit worried for you
so am I but that's life  :(
Quote
As a distraction, do tell us more about the white metal kit. :)

I`ll know more about it once it arrives  ::)
Quote
Oh I've a partly built (done the tricky stuff) r. c. trawler kit for sale with hundreds of white metal parts that doesn't worry about inclines !

Keep on building my friend  :P
I intend to but 2/3s of my mind are on other things at the moment.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 22, 2014, 04:12:50 PM
 :) Bit better day today. With 'wurldsend' /bridge levels now within 0.05mm of each other I felt that I could maybe go mad (who me mad? :doh: )  and spray the surface with Plasticoat grey  to give a gravel type track area. Its dried quite well but probably needs overnight to harden off then I can lay the 3 way set of points just short of the bridge end. and work out the two sidings at the front and see where I can get the 3rd in in a cutting near the back.
That then lets me know what space I have for high pasture recreation land and raised viewpoint to overlook the whole of 'Ruleoneshire'. I particularly liked Julias 'castle' idea but would not be able to carry it off anywhere near as well as she did so will have to think of along a different route... for now I may just plonk a school building or church there to utilise the space till Im ready to construct something different. Maybe a McDs as its a touristy type place  :worried:
Anns tablets are starting to kick in after a week of them making the problems worse that ever.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
I'd have thought an N gauge model of your own house would be great up on the hill so you can survey your Principality of Ruleoneshire.
Thanks for the update on Ann - hopefully the tablets will have the effect they're meant to.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 22, 2014, 07:15:45 PM
I'd have thought an N gauge model of your own house would be great up on the hill
;) No I did say I wouldn't build a castle or a baronial hall so that idea a non starter  :angel:
Thanks for comment about Ann  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on September 22, 2014, 07:29:45 PM
Good to know the meds are starting to do their job.

Keep up the good work!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 22, 2014, 09:21:29 PM
I'd have thought an N gauge model of your own house would be great up on the hill
;) No I did say I wouldn't build a castle or a baronial hall so that idea a non starter  :angel:
Thanks for comment about Ann  :thumbsup:

Ah well, we can't all live in such surroundings :(
I bet my bungalow would fit into your bathroom with space to spare :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 23, 2014, 04:41:37 PM
I'd have thought an N gauge model of your own house would be great up on the hill
;) No I did say I wouldn't build a castle or a baronial hall so that idea a non starter  :angel:
Thanks for comment about Ann  :thumbsup:
:-[ :-[  Oooooops  :goggleeyes: I think I must have been asleep and dreaming when I posted that from our little old semi detatched cottage style home.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 24, 2014, 08:45:40 PM
 :)  At last Ive managed to install the 3 way points using a dilute mix of PVA/water etc. to hold it in place. I hope that works over Plasticote if not I may have to pin it down. Being the Fleischmann 3 way motorised points it was a dead simple installation to make and I shant need to use any IRJs  :claphappy: :claphappy:. Pity the motors are above the board but I think they can easily be disguised by rocks or shrubs.
Tomorrow if all is well I hope to install the 3 sidings and a double sided platform for the sightseers/tourists 2 coach trains.
Over the weekend if I get any time I hope to experiment lay some of the scenic 'Shaper Sheet' and plaster. It reads perfect for what I have in mind but time will tell.
Ive finally got my hands on a Fleischmanns electronic turntable controller so I need to sort a mount out for that and wire it in as per instruction sheet. Then I can get the turntable area and wiring completed. I need a back scene for that area mainly to stop any strong sunlight causing the base board covering etc. to fade.
A lot depends on Ann for the time being it seems to be 3days forward and then 2.5 days backwards
Ive got her on to doing jigsaw puzzles as something to occupy her mind and that seems to be helping.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on September 24, 2014, 08:55:48 PM
Both of you keeping busy.

Good job!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 30, 2014, 04:28:33 PM
The last few days has shown me hope little time I shall have for modelling for a few weeks and nothing on Ruleoneshire appears to be  easy to achieve in a short spell of time.
Ive removed wurldsend and from the board and can work on that whilst sitting down and in small instalments.
Once it was down on my stool/modelling bench and I had checked that the 3 way point was firmly fixed down in the right place I was able to start laying some track (will try and get some pictures tomorrow or Thursday), making the route up as I go along so that the scenics arnt crowded. Did find that the Flieschmann semi flexible track could be a bit of a  :censored: when it comes to S curves and had to get a few curved 'setrack' type rail sections (on small section is actual Peco setrack  cut down to length to get rid of the ghastly ends).
Dug out a 'pre used' narrow platform and made that fit for the station. Even placed a curve track at the 'blind' end and continued a bit of track right to the end board. It will be close to unused and  a bit weedy and ruff but it will help produce what I'm after.
The upper and scenic areas are next to work on/at but an still tying to work out how to merge it in with the tracked section.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on September 30, 2014, 05:55:17 PM
I do hope Ann continues to improve. I'm sure the jigsaws will act as a good stimulus.
Any photos of your layout progress ?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 01, 2014, 11:46:32 AM
I do hope Ann continues to improve. I'm sure the jigsaws will act as a good stimulus.
Any photos of your layout progress ?
Thanks Ann seems slightly better but it not going to cure itself over night.
The jigsaws are helping but as I enjoy doing them it seems that I have to help out a lot  :doh:
Pictures to be taken this afternoon if I get the chance........if not  then soon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 01, 2014, 02:35:29 PM
 :claphappy: I managed 2 general pictures before  the batteries got really low/dead (one picture is a disaster but I`ll include it anyway  on a temporary  basis
I think it gives a rough idea of the directions I`m taking.
 The whole thing is raised about 2" above the Ruleoneshires  base.
The viaduct obviously joins on to the 3 way set of points.
The row of glue tube boxes is approximately where the grass and boulder scenery starts to rise up to the level where the church is just  plonked down for now. I hope to build a fairly low retaining wall across the grass/boulder boundry which will probably taper downwards towards the right hand end.
The single track tunnel at the left hand end of the board is a direct single line connection into the London/Dublin tunnel bridge line that should be completed by 2018  :-\
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0170.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0170.jpg.html)

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/DSCF0171.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/DSCF0171.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on October 01, 2014, 04:53:17 PM
Looking good. Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jd on October 01, 2014, 05:25:40 PM
Looks good and thanks for the update. I hope your wife is doing better. As some one who as the same issues I know how hard it can be someday just to get yourself up and going. I find the modelling helps me so fingers crossed the jigsaws will with her.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 02, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Thanks for the comments.
I know what you mean jd as I went through the same thing back in the 1990s.Its not easy to see her going through what I struggled with. I try and make encouraging comments but I know that it helps very little. Its back to the GP next Wednesday afternoon (1st appointment available)
Right sob story over for now.
Ive been playing around with shaper sheet today. Regardless of what the makers say there is a need to mould it over a skeleton scaffolding of 6mm strip wood and tack glue it down along the edges. Not as easy as is advertised.
There is a warning on the packing now that if you cut it to size the edges will be razor sharp and they are correct :(. The cuts are a bit like paper cuts and sting accordingly  :veryangry:  Tonight I`m letting my scaffolding harden off and the pollyfiller tacking dry before I set about 'moulding' into some form of rock surface.
Pictures  at the weekend
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 07, 2014, 11:36:58 AM
Done *&%%* all to the layout for a few days now but think that I might get to at least look at it later today.
Its taken close on 3 weeks and for separate GPs to agree that the tablets they put Ann on are only making things much worse.
Last night started the new variety and even by this morning I could see the difference.........time will tell tho.
At least although I have no intention of starting work on it yet I have my 2 black5s and the white metal kit to install them on. One of my models is tender drive so for now it looks like I shall use it as a dummy and rely on the other loco that is chassis powered.
Got to finish off the `shaper sheet' work and the plaster bandage that I`m in the middle of using for 'wurldsend'. I must say that the shaper sheet plaster seems very good and can be mixed 'wet' to allow it to be painted on. I`m using 2 coats of plaster but I suspect that 1 could be enough. I`m guessing that my lack of scenic building plus using shaper sheet for the first time might not be very good but I am trying  :dunce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on October 07, 2014, 12:51:39 PM
You have reinforced my opinions of 'quacks', John, but am glad to hear Ann is already feeling better and hope this continues.
I'm sure your work with shaper sheet will be OK and look forward to some pics when they become available.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on October 07, 2014, 02:42:44 PM
Good news re the new tabs. Let's hope they help get Ann back to her happier self.

As Mick said, looking forward to some pics when you have the chance.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 02:56:27 PM
Good news re the new tabs. Let's hope they help get Ann back to her happier self.

As Mick said, looking forward to some pics when you have the chance.

Dave G

Seconded. Very sorry to read about the problems.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on October 07, 2014, 05:19:08 PM
My aged mother had open heart surgery 3 years ago.
When she left Papworth she was kept on a heart control tablet, and it wasn't reviewed by any of our GPs (no heart specialists in practice).
A year ago she was having terrible breathing difficulties and was referred back to the hospital.
Heart guy said she should never have been left on the heart tablet for two years and it had now bug messed up her thyroid!
She now has to have a thyroid replacement tablet every day, but at least she's breathing better......

By and large my family has had excellent service from the NHS, but things like this do make you wonder.
Sorry it's off subject, but I never started it  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on October 07, 2014, 08:32:39 PM
I do hope that the new tablets do their stuff.
Fingers crossed here.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 10, 2014, 04:16:28 PM
The new tablets are slowly kicking in but it was like going back 3 weeks to the start again and building up the results.
Very little layout 'work' done but this afternoon Ive managed about an hours worth.
I`m suffering from not running any stock during the last 3-4 weeks so if 'wurldsend' dries out ok as it is I might tidy things up on the top of my tool storage area/layout a few locos that are new to me  and run the new Pullman coaches around a bit (probably hauled by a 08 or a terrier  >:D )
At least nothing needs dismantling at present  so I guess I`m going forwards for once  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: smileyjon on October 10, 2014, 07:06:56 PM
Hi Jon.  Many thanks for the updates on your fine build.  I've just been reading through them and getting up to date.  Medications eh.  I'm meeting up with a group of friends from my teen years next week and I'm guessing we'll all have more meds that baggage  :D

Take care buddy  :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on October 10, 2014, 07:24:05 PM
Have a good play Jon, it will make you feel miles better  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 13, 2014, 11:35:38 AM
Managed to get 'wurldsend' well and truly plastered  :confused1: over the weekend and still havnt got round to playing trains but theres always tomorrow. Cant say I enjoyed making shaper sheet do as I wanted it to but in the end I won and with Pof Parise bandage to hold it down in place I was able to use its proper plaster which can be used very wet and painted on the surface. Its very strong stuff once dry and sticks to everything like  :censored: to as blanket.
Being me some managed to spill onto the rails and although not much its a job to get off once its dry  :veryangry: I think that some of it that's on the sleepers etc can stay and be made to look like rock debry that's drifted down onto it.
 :veryangry: Forgot to line the tunnel inside so am left with a void if you look into it but I may be able to cobble something up to disguise that fact. Once I get a length of plastic tubing in I will slice it along its length and put it over the actual rails and then spray the whole tracked area with Plasicoat granite paint.
(batteries on charge for camera so may be able to post some pictures later) :camera:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 13, 2014, 02:35:15 PM
 :veryangry: Someone left the freezer door in the kitchen slightly ajar so we have a little job to do this afternoon  :doh:
BUT
a couple of quick photos as promised

(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0172.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0172.jpg.html)
and
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff474/jonclox/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0173-Copy.jpg) (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/jonclox/media/Ruleoneshire%20UK/DSCF0173-Copy.jpg.html)

The top will be rough pasture/ hill walking area with a footpath running from the right hand end up to the plateau at the right which may have a scratch built version of stone henge or some other sort of tourist attraction on it. There could even end up with two interchangeable attractions  up there.
The sides will be rock and boulder faced but you can see the effect that shaper sheet has produced (with a little help from me  :-[ )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on October 13, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
Are we to assume there's a layout in there somewhere, Jon? :goggleeyes:
(Sorry - couldn't resist it, especially as I am just as messy when it comes to tools etc)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on October 13, 2014, 03:33:45 PM
Tools? His tools are buried under that landslide!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 13, 2014, 03:38:20 PM
Tools? His tools are buried under that landslide!
Oh  :censored: ! ! ! ! I wondered where they had gone
What mess Nobbly? It looks quite tidy to me :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on October 13, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
Tools? His tools are buried under that landslide!
Oh  :censored: ! ! ! ! I wondered where they had gone
What mess Nobbly? It looks quite tidy to me :confused1:

Nobbly?
How very dare you! :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: railsquid on October 13, 2014, 04:10:46 PM
:veryangry: Forgot to line the tunnel inside so am left with a void if you look into it but I may be able to cobble something up to disguise that fact.

That's something that probably would never have occurred to me, so I'll take the liberty of learning from your mistake  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on October 13, 2014, 04:49:29 PM
:veryangry: Forgot to line the tunnel inside so am left with a void if you look into it


I used some spare bits of my retaining wall on the insides of the tunnel mouth - quite effective.


(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/uk2day/trains/scenery3.JPG)

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 14, 2014, 09:54:23 AM
I may end up spraying a sheet of card black and springing that uncurled into the tunnel mouth. The tunnel is only a few mm deep before it hits a blank (black painted) end wall of the layout.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 16, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
Testing-------------testing.
Sorry just trying to see if I can connect via wifi with this old Victorian gas powered lap top of mine.
seems loik I can but it aint got no spellchewcker set uup  :'(   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on October 16, 2014, 04:57:42 PM
Testing-------------testing.
Sorry just trying to see if I can connect via wifi with this old Victorian gas powered lap top of mine.
seems loik I can but it aint got no spellchewcker set uup  :'(   

Receipting yo lewd and clar, Jon!  :wave:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: macwales on October 16, 2014, 05:33:22 PM
Hi

RuleOneShire!!

That's me. Just been running  the Brighton Belle, that train was passed by a Silver Link + Gresley teak coaches while on the lower level .....

There was a Britannia pulling some blood and custards and on the other track a Class 158 twin car set was chasing a Northern Rail 156 Twinset coupled with a single Northern Rail 158.

All carriages lit up and they looked great and I like them. In the dark with the stations, yards, sheds, signal boxes, electric signals and town lights on ..... Sublime!! Quite magical. Perhaps its the two beers talking but I don't think so. Who needs Xmas lights?

Think I will go and check if it really is magical   ......  for another hour .....  Again!

Cheers

Mac  :beers:

 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 17, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
The  grand :-\ tidy up has commenced  so in a couple of days :-\ I might get some trains running again.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 17, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Looking forward to seeing the trains running again, Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on October 17, 2014, 06:00:53 PM
Testing-------------testing.
Sorry just trying to see if I can connect via wifi with this old Victorian gas powered lap top of mine.
seems loik I can but it aint got no spellchewcker set uup  :'(   

I use a very good spell checker called "iespell", you might find it useful as it works on many different programs  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 18, 2014, 09:39:57 AM
Testing-------------testing.
Sorry just trying to see if I can connect via wifi with this old Victorian gas powered lap top of mine.
seems loik I can but it aint got no spellchewcker set uup  :'(   

I use a very good spell checker called "iespell", you might find it useful as it works on many different programs  ;)

cheers John.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Thanks John I`ve been using 'iespell' for a number of years now and have it on here (my PC) so I`ll email myself the link and when next on my laptop open the link and download it
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 20, 2014, 02:59:53 PM
 :thumbsup: Finally today Ive managed to paint/seal the end scenic backboard for the turntable end. now it can be fitted tomorrow which will give me a good chance of tidying that end of the board ready to have a proper backboard scene pasted to it. At the moment I`m browsing suitable  :-\  photos to copy.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on October 20, 2014, 06:12:37 PM
Pictures soon please.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Marty on October 21, 2014, 01:12:32 PM
Hello Jon, I've just spent the last couple of evenings being entertained by your tale of Ruleoneshire's development. Grumps and all your story, tips and determined persistence has made for a great read. Many thanks, best of luck and I've just bought myself a ticket to Wurldsend. Looking forward to seeing it develop.
Marty
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 21, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
Hello Jon, I've just spent the last couple of evenings being entertained by your tale of Ruleoneshire's development. Grumps and all your story, tips and determined persistence has made for a great read. Many thanks, best of luck and I've just bought myself a ticket to Wurldsend. Looking forward to seeing it develop.
Marty
:doh: Oh eck.
Having read my tails of woe etc. are you having to have therapy?
Many do  ::)
Anyway I hope you enjoyed the read so far and just maybe learned an odd couple of things.
I suspect that the times not far off when I will have to abandon some future plans and just do what health allows at the time :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on October 21, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
Don't forget Jon, "playing trains" can be great therapy.
Do what you can when you can but above all else - enjoy it.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 26, 2014, 04:20:11 PM
Semi panic morning here today ::) First time for a few days that Ive not been needed at Anns side to give her some confidence.
Anyway I cleared most of the clutter tools etc off the board and threw the main power switch to on. Of course track cleaning was/is a priority and I ran my Fleicshmann track cleaning loco round the tracks a few times. The points wouldn't operate but the noise from them proved there was power getting through. I the end I found that switching them back and forth seemed to free the stuck ones up so an entertaining half hour was spent flicking point switches back and forth. Some still 'half changed' and a good seeing to with my air blaster cleared them out. All was now cleared and ready to have sir Thomas to come over this afternoon :uneasy:  :doh: He was to busy watching Thomas the Tank engine on DVD so we had to slip round there with some odds and ends they wanted.
A good idea in a way as it got Ann out and driving again.
Will try and do some more train play here later and maybe run some locos Ive not run before
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on October 26, 2014, 04:31:16 PM
Glad that Mrs Clox managed to get out a bit this afternoon. Hopefully that will give her a bit of confidence.
And hope you manage t play trains later !
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2014, 05:46:31 PM
Sounds like Ann is picking up a bit, Jon. I hope progress is maintained :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 26, 2014, 07:21:50 PM
I really hope so, too.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 31, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
Still podding along when and if I  can.
Anns medication has been changed again and this one has fewer side effects we hope. Safer doing backscene boards at the moment as I can leave them at any time to be with Ann.
 Today Ive marked and drawn 2 straight lines  ::)
Teeth settling down and just 'throbbing' in the background now but at least they are allowing me to sleep at night  albeit part time :(
Machine gun towers manned and exlax sweeties ready for any horrors that might be brave enough to knock the door.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on October 31, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Glad to hear that you are managing to do bits and pieces.
Don't be too over zealous with that machine gun later though !!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on October 31, 2014, 10:26:02 PM

 Today Ive marked and drawn 2 straight lines  ::)

In my book, that's an achievement in itself! :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 07, 2014, 11:44:00 AM
Still podding along when and if I  can.
Anns medication has been changed again
a

 :hmmm: Repeat of the above post and now she is on a mild anti depression exactly the same as Ive been on for a couple of years now  :hmmm: They do me no harm so heres hoping they suit Ann.
Did a bit of wiring yesterday. 1st time Ive done anything for a week really. Last weeks track cleaning time was well wasted and needs doing again from square one.    ::)
Anyways I furtulled around quite a bit yesterday and got several small niggles/problems sorted out. Major problem exists in the point switches (cheap Chinese) in that they fail to trigger the change over till they have been 'waggled' about for a while and sworn at a lot. (Ideas welcomed please)
EP of this parish mentioned the Minitrix track cleaning wagon the other day and I decided to have one and run it as a backup to my Fleischmann track cleaning loco. It looks quite good and it will soon be in constant use here coated with drops of Dapol cleaner.
Wonder if I`ll be able to run any stock this weekend?  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on November 07, 2014, 02:55:35 PM

 Major problem exists in the point switches (cheap Chinese) in that they fail to trigger the change over till they have been 'waggled' about for a while and sworn at a lot. (Ideas welcomed please)


With this being a family forum I really don't think we can put forward ideas for your swearing, Jon :no:
Surprised you don't know most of 'em anyway ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 07, 2014, 04:32:45 PM

 Major problem exists in the point switches (cheap Chinese) in that they fail to trigger the change over till they have been 'waggled' about for a while and sworn at a lot. (Ideas welcomed please)


With this being a family forum I really don't think we can put forward ideas for your swearing, Jon :no:
Surprised you don't know most of 'em anyway ;)
:-[ Not only know them but have a degree and masters in Anglo Saxon and later swearwords and phrases............Not used when in company of course :angel:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on November 07, 2014, 04:52:46 PM

 Major problem exists in the point switches (cheap Chinese) in that they fail to trigger the change over till they have been 'waggled' about for a while and sworn at a lot. (Ideas welcomed please)


With this being a family forum I really don't think we can put forward ideas for your swearing, Jon :no:
Surprised you don't know most of 'em anyway ;)
:-[ Not only know them but have a degree and masters in Anglo Saxon and later swearwords and phrases............Not used when in company of course :angel:
Taken as read of course.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 08, 2014, 11:19:19 AM
Struggled through a few problems yesterday and sorted out a few of them. Stuck some platform segments together and failed to get them level with eachother  :veryangry:
Will cut the joint out and replacement later today.
Looks as if point switch problems come from .... poor PSU to bus wiring... will rewire with thicker gauge later.. wondering if I can run classic cobalts with 12 volts rather than 9 volt PSU.
My point switch soldering looks a areal mess so have ordered prewired Cobalt switches with included  LED lights .
Ordered some odds and sods from Hattons yesterday. Delivered here 20 minutes ago by standard rate mail. Brilliant service from both
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 08, 2014, 06:10:11 PM
ripped the platform sections apart with a piercing saw then reassembled on a new flatter jig with very very thin pollythene sheeting over the top of it. It held the clamped platform sections in perfect line and height so when 2 hours later I eased them away from the jig they came away near perfectly.
Point motor switch wiring.  :-[ thin feed wire from PSU to bus bar very fine so replaced it with heavy gauge cable. The increase in power at the actual motors went up considerably on 85% of then although a couple still struggled to move as they should. The new switches should be here Monday so will change 1 for one and see where improvements are.........I still suspect the cheepo Chinese switches (and my Soldering) :-\.
short on layout !!!! an extra thrown in today to test my temper/brain cell.
Reasonable on an old GF controller (DC) but horrific on GM Prog. DCC  :veryangry:   Track inspected and vacuumed then air blasted and contacted to DCC again ...........major short   :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Cause eventually discovered as new main imput plug shorting against the casing. Now sorted with good power right round the track.   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on November 08, 2014, 06:13:28 PM
Hey Ho, Jon. No one ever said model railways were simple. Or did they? :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on November 08, 2014, 06:23:02 PM
ripped the platform sections apart with a piercing saw then reassembled on a new flatter jig with very very thin pollythene sheeting over the top of it. It held the clamped platform sections in perfect line and height so when 2 hours later I eased them away from the jig they came away near perfectly.
Point motor switch wiring.  :-[ thin feed wire from PSU to bus bar very fine so replaced it with heavy gauge cable. The increase in power at the actual motors went up considerably on 85% of then although a couple still struggled to move as they should. The new switches should be here Monday so will change 1 for one and see where improvements are.........I still suspect the cheepo Chinese switches (and my Soldering) :-\.
short on layout !!!! an extra thrown in today to test my temper/brain cell.
Reasonable on an old GF controller (DC) but horrific on GM Prog. DCC  :veryangry:   Track inspected and vacuumed then air blasted and contacted to DCC again ...........major short   :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Cause eventually discovered as new main imput plug shorting against the casing. Now sorted with good power right round the track.   

Think you need a good talking too.   ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 08, 2014, 06:26:32 PM
Hey Ho, Jon. No one ever said model railways were simple. Or did they? :-\
I never try and produce problems but enjoy nearly (?) every minute of finding ways to cure or correct every fault.
Simple for me would just be boring. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 08, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
ripped the platform sections apart with a piercing saw then reassembled on a new flatter jig with very very thin pollythene sheeting over the top of it. It held the clamped platform sections in perfect line and height so when 2 hours later I eased them away from the jig they came away near perfectly.
Point motor switch wiring.  :-[ thin feed wire from PSU to bus bar very fine so replaced it with heavy gauge cable. The increase in power at the actual motors went up considerably on 85% of then although a couple still struggled to move as they should. The new switches should be here Monday so will change 1 for one and see where improvements are.........I still suspect the cheepo Chinese switches (and my Soldering) :-\.
short on layout !!!! an extra thrown in today to test my temper/brain cell.
Reasonable on an old GF controller (DC) but horrific on GM Prog. DCC  :veryangry:   Track inspected and vacuumed then air blasted and contacted to DCC again ...........major short   :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:
Cause eventually discovered as new main imput plug shorting against the casing. Now sorted with good power right round the track.   

Think you need a good talking too.   ;)

Thank you  :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on November 08, 2014, 09:52:36 PM
Just a warning Jon, you still need to solder the led's to the switches and they are fiddly to say the least,prepare to swear again,I did.when it says pre-wired it means a little panel soldered to the switch so you do not need resistors. I have just bought another pack though plus some woodland scenics ground cover. I ordered Wed night and received Thursday morning, pretty good service from Hattons.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 09, 2014, 01:15:54 PM
Just a warning Jon, you still need to solder the led's to the switches and they are fiddly to say the least,prepare to swear again,I did.when it says pre-wired it means a little panel soldered to the switch so you do not need resistors. I have just bought another pack though plus some woodland scenics ground cover. I ordered Wed night and received Thursday morning, pretty good service from Hattons.
Thanks lil chris for the led soldering warning.
I am pretty certain there wont be enough room on the panel to mount leds as well as  all the rest of the gubbins so will put lights and holders into 'storage' for future use. Mind you if there is enough space they willstill go into storage till a future 'easy week' when nothing else needs doing  :-\ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 10, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
Waited for Mr Postie this morning and received ..............Nothing ::)
I had hoped for new switches and even extra wiring so I could start on point motor switch changing but that will have to wait  :hmmm: Still I gave the track a deep clean and brush up in anticipation of tomorrows delivery. Just a few new wired rail connectors to finish installing for the sidings and then back onto backscene board making........ that's going ok (so far).
Having great problems with my Fleischmann track cleaning loco. It is ok on the programming track but refuses to obey on the main board. Power is well up to running DCC all over the layout but GM now seem to think there may be a fault in the controller so that has to go back.  >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 12, 2014, 10:51:06 AM
Rather than get stuck in to layout development I spent a great deal of time kit bashing/modifying and  even spraying bits of station building.
Have now got the new DCC switches and diodes so if Thomas isn't coming over within the next couple of days I will have a go at that  but leave the diodes to one side as previously stated. The chance to  get rid of my spiders web of wires and tidy up with good soldering seems to be a good idea.
1 section of back scene was finished and placed and the graphics look  'orrible so I shall have to sort out another and glue that on.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on November 12, 2014, 04:04:34 PM
Take it easy with that soldering Jon, tin the wire first, prefferably with some liquid flux, the DCC stuff is brilliant. just touch the iron onto the switch with the wire in place. When you are soldering the big stuff for a dcc bus etc you need a hot iron. I found that out when I first wired my dcc bus, I had to re solder all the joints, its a learning curve.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 12, 2014, 04:38:17 PM
you need a hot iron. I found that out when I first wired my dcc bus, I had to re solder all the joints, its a learning curve.
I`m lucky in a way because I still have a fairly heavy 'gun type' soldering iron from years ago and always use that on heavy stuff. Its the fine stuff I get in a mess with. I learned years ago that a gas flame torch suited me best but I I am having to  relearn old techniques and disciplines and its coming hard >:(   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 14, 2014, 01:49:51 PM
Yesterday I checked  out the DCC  switches  and wired a couple up  just to see if it was going be fairly straightforward
 As lil Chris pointed out the soldering does need some concentration etc  but I think I can cope.
Rather than rush it this time I will take my time and make sure every joint is good.
I don't know where I the idea that 9volts was the maximum for Cobalts and tortices but Ive just changed the power feed to 12 volts and theres a vast improvement in switching speed.
I was going to change one switch at a time but looking at the gtangle I made sure every wire pair were numbered and then ripped all the old switch power wiring etc out and am left with a blank control panel to work on.
Probably take me close on a week to redo because of real world commitments.
 :claphappy: :claphappy: GPs Surgery practice nurse  informed me yesterday that my blood pressure and SATS were quite good but my breathing is still cr  rubbish :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: ColinH on November 14, 2014, 02:16:52 PM

 :claphappy: :claphappy: GPs Surgery practice nurse  informed me yesterday that my blood pressure and SATS were quite good but my breathing is still cr  rubbish :hmmm:

Keep practicing the breathing Jon and hope it improves - the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on November 14, 2014, 03:57:04 PM
GPs Surgery practice nurse  informed me yesterday that my blood pressure and SATS were quite good but my breathing is still cr  rubbish :hmmm:


If you are still doing the "in, out, in out, shake it all about" then miss of the "shake it all about" and that might help  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on November 14, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
I've found that the practice of keeping breathing is best! GTN puffer on permanent standby here  :D

After that, do your best to fit in other important stuff like N gauge and occasional shopping trip for trivia like food and fuel.

Take care and enjoy a successful rewire.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 14, 2014, 06:52:04 PM

Thanks everybody. I can assure you  that I keep practicing breathing but its a struggle at times   :hmmm:
Well this afternoon I managed to get all the feed wires soldered to the switches apart from one  :worried:. I even managed to route them tidily (for me). this time every feed goes straight back to the bus separately and dosnt share short lengths with other switches.
Tomorrow with luck I hope to connect all the feeds hooked up and soldered.

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on November 14, 2014, 11:18:26 PM
Just make sure that you know where the house fuse box is Jon, and have some spare fuses handy.....oh and a torch  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 15, 2014, 06:58:48 PM
Theres power to every switch now via well soldered feeds straight back to the bus. I managed to hook all that up this morning and was ready to hook the motor feeds into the switches.
It all looked much neater and more powerful when any point was lined and thrown.  So much so that I wired  back down to 9 volts and for now will be quite satisfied with the results  :claphappy:
Next I turned the switch panel round and up the right way   :-[ because feeds were now crossed they didn't work out right. Every bus feed was wired in to the wrong side of the bus. :-[ To straighten them out each had to be unsoldered and rewired where it should be. The result is not as neat as it was originally but every joint is a well soldered conection
That's when I fell off my chair reaching for a pair of pliers and ended up a mangled heap on the floor  :doh: :veryangry: :censored:  Fortunately  pride and ego were the only things damaged but them downstairs.....son and SWMBO came up stairs very quickly...... and I got a  right ear bending for doing something stupid  :doh: and decided to leave well alone till the morning once I had picked up scattered tools etc

   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on November 15, 2014, 07:36:37 PM
Better dig out the parachute that comes with every soldering iron!

Tell me you didn't throw it away with the packing. You did, didn't you?  :D

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 15, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
Better dig out the parachute that comes with every soldering iron!

Tell me you didn't throw it away with the packing. You did, didn't you?  :D

Dave G
I discoved what happen if you grab the wrong end of a hot soldering iron earlier this summer so now wear a  woven Kevlar glove on my important hand.
It actually does protect the hand very well
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 18, 2014, 09:56:33 AM
 :doh: Doctors trip last week and a return visit yesterday to donate an arm and a legs full of blood for testing has left me freeling rough for a few days. No modelling or playing trains just a few days rest seems the best way out of it.
Total waste of time but  may prove worth while later on.
Guess online retail therapy could be the best cure  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 18, 2014, 10:06:00 AM
Take it easy then you'll be able to return to your layout. Meantime you might want to plan out some further details?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on November 18, 2014, 02:17:52 PM
Hope you feel a little better soon.
And....don't spend too much on line !
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 18, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
Take it easy then you'll be able to return to your layout. Meantime you might want to plan out some further details?
Future plans are already formed for the next few years but can only occur and come to fruition once the previous idea has been executed
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 18, 2014, 04:48:47 PM
Hope you feel a little better soon.
And....don't spend too much on line !

All ready improving thanks  :thumbsup:.
Aw shucks just when I was enjoying on line surfing you ruin it for me  :-\
(Have managed to cut down a GM back scene and paste it in place today)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 20, 2014, 11:34:19 AM
I quite like the end (beyond the turntable) backscene now its pasted and dried out and have just managed to paste the rear end board scenic in position. Once they are both thoroughly dried and trimmed I intend to spray lacquer them so that mucky finger marks etc can be wiped off easily.
Must try later to finish off the switch soldering which I had to leave to  fumes effecting me.  :( Ive now got a box of disposable surgical face masks that might help with breathing problems
I am lead to believe that Santa is bringing me a 'proper' soldering station with variable power which might be better than my present one that's got no control over it.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 21, 2014, 04:15:26 PM
 :claphappy: All the point switch rewiring finished and working really well. A couple of the point motors still need re aligning to get them throwing properly but that can wait until tomorrow I may even resort to leaving the motors as is and re positioning the points themselves (1 requires lifting anyway)
........and now to relax for a while :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on November 21, 2014, 04:54:57 PM
Well done Jon, perseverance pays off, you deserve your  :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on November 21, 2014, 05:20:52 PM
Well done mate.....now WAKE UP!  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 22, 2014, 09:45:59 AM
Well done mate.....now WAKE UP!  :D
I object to the above post !!  >:( Its not midday yet
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on November 22, 2014, 09:53:53 AM
It gives you more time to work on your layout....or better still PLAY  :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 24, 2014, 10:17:17 AM
  I may even resort to leaving the motors as is and re positioning the points themselves (1 requires lifting anyway)
I lifted the set of points and the reason for it snagging showed up immediately. The actuating rod was binding on the side of the hole. A quick grind with a mini rotatory burr and repositioning the point about 1mm to one side sorted everything out but it meant that the next point in line was no longer in line when eased to one side a fraction so that got the same treatment (grind and adjust) which of course threw number 3 point out a bit but it was one that was playing up in the 1st place.
Now all 3 seem to be spot on and working as they should.
Although it has left me with some larger holes in the baseboard than I would normally allow. They will get a covering of cork underlay for now and somewhen in the future a wooden 'bung'  glued into them   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on November 24, 2014, 10:37:17 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 25, 2014, 04:43:07 PM
 :doh: ::) What an afternoon  :confused1:
Started off with the vacuum cleaner running over the complete layout. Followed by running my Fleischmann track cleaning loco along every track that's connected and ready. Had to tweek  a few point blades as I had guessed I would have to. :worried:
This was followed by coupling my Minitrix rail cleaner behind the loco and with a stutter and hiccup it was away cleaning every section of track several times.
In the end I got bored with it and after a break and a cupper I really started to playrun the loco and wagon everywhere for over an hour  :claphappy:
Young fat controller Tom is coming to inspect it all tomorrow afternoon  :worried: so with luck I might even get to find out if I have done everything right  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on November 25, 2014, 04:45:13 PM
Sounds like a successful afternoon and no mention of IPA !!
Hope it all passes Tom's inspection tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 25, 2014, 04:52:02 PM
Sounds like a successful afternoon and no mention of IPA !!
 
Health dosnt allow me to use IPA  :(  but I do use Dapol cleaning fluid on the Minitrix wagons cleaning pad
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 25, 2014, 05:17:27 PM
A Minitrix track cleaning wagon sounds like an excellent idea.

Very glad that you've been able to work on and operate your layout once more.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on November 25, 2014, 07:51:12 PM
so with luck I might even get to find out if I have done everything right  ::)
Puts me in mind of that advert on the TV where daddy is trying to build a treehouse which meets his little girl's requirements  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on November 25, 2014, 09:26:53 PM
so with luck I might even get to find out if I have done everything right  ::)
Puts me in mind of that advert on the TV where daddy is trying to build a treehouse which meets his little girl's requirements  :D

Eek! Hope Jon's layout isn't pink :goggleeyes: 8)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 26, 2014, 09:35:36 AM
so with luck I might even get to find out if I have done everything right  ::)
Puts me in mind of that advert on the TV where daddy is trying to build a treehouse which meets his little girl's requirements  :D

Eek! Hope Jon's layout isn't pink :goggleeyes: 8)
Nah the only coloured part is the air that can become rather blue in times of stress etc  :-[
One thing that surprised me was that there wasn't  even one short circuit when I powered up yesterday  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on November 26, 2014, 09:37:09 AM
Blimey, don't complain about that Jon - tempting fate!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 26, 2014, 04:38:57 PM
Blimey, don't complain about that Jon - tempting fate!
:-[ Ummm yes :(
My motto when Tom is over is from now on--------------

'If anything can go wrong it will'


Mind you careful tweeking sorted it all out fairly quickly.
Im guessing that some of my track laying isn't perfect and even on a good day some stock needs a tad of extra weight added and one fleebay special Pullman coach needs a wheel upgrade because of pizza cutter wheels and a roof repaint to match the rest of the rake.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 29, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
Thumbing through the latest N gauge Journal this morning I was silly enough to read up about the new Hornby Brighton Belle. It looked great piece of modelling and for what you get the price dosnt seen OTT. but of course its to long to run on Ruleoneshire and I cant afford it anyway :(
Still I could sell my unused EMU that was bought in error and some of my unneeded DCC point modules etc...........and I could just afford it now if I used the Governments heating allowance for OAPs
Lots of maybes about them selling out before Xmas so  :worried:
Result was to hit the 'buy' button and probably starve over the Xmas and new year  :worried:
All I need to do now is work out how to and where to sell surplus bits  :hmmm:
edit.........and to extend sidings to house it  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on November 29, 2014, 03:41:12 PM
Oh dear :doh:
I can see pleas for Red Cross parcels in a months time, Jon :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on November 29, 2014, 04:21:10 PM
Sounds like me and my Midland Pullman Jon - too large for my sidings at the moment, but will be lovely on the club layouts and when mine is extended.
For now it has to run round on its own  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 29, 2014, 06:00:16 PM
Sounds like me and my Midland Pullman Jon -
For now it has to run round on its own  :D
Yes I guess so but mines a proper brown and cream Pullman not a strange blue variety  :angel:
[jonclox now rushes off line to hide from the incoming wrath from Blue Pullman followers ] :uneasy: :uneasy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on November 29, 2014, 06:18:17 PM
Be afraid, be very afraid  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 05, 2014, 09:50:21 AM
A few quiet days here  :worried: Just cant seem to get any enthusiasm going over the layout but with Hornby saying that although they are 'swamped' out with orders in general I should get my Brighton Belle early next week  :bounce: :bounce:
May  give the track cleaners a run round later today and hook up the last 3 turntable storage sidings to the power bus plus I believe Mr Tom is wanting to come over again  :doh:
Get the Xmas festivities etc over I plan to build a simple figure of eight track just to run locos in and double up as a programing/test track. It will be as small as I can make it without using 1st radius curves.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on December 05, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Hopefully the "Belle" will revitalise you when it arrives, it is a beautiful model.  Seems as though you've got the turn table cracked as well, I bet Master Tom loves watching the engines being turned and being sent to bed.   :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 05, 2014, 10:45:46 AM
Hopefully the "Belle" will revitalise you when it arrives, it is a beautiful model.  Seems as though you've got the turn table cracked as well, I bet Master Tom loves watching the engines being turned and being sent to bed.   :)

 ;D Yes I think that Tom feels that the best thing on the layout is 'The Spinning Wheel' and he demands endless locos going dizzy on it. Unfortunately it isn't quite level in its recess and requires final levelling to make every storage track line up without having to mount a step on entry and leaving.  :doh: I still feel that I  need to isolate/ connect up each rail before the final balancing takes place...........Maybe this afternoon etc. then cobbl connect the whole thing up on the programmable switch module
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 13, 2014, 11:33:54 AM
Its been a time of reflection, planning and generally taking stock of things here :doh:.
Basically I`m doing less modelling and finishing stuff off than is good for me and Ruleoneshire. From now on I think I shall run stock whenever I can and abandon all hopes of ever finishing the scenic  :( Plenty/some will get done in the future but for me the aim has always been a running railway and that will now be the main aim for the present and the future.
A couple of scenic moving cameos will be built to a point where they become usable but final tweaking will be left till I'm in the right mood.
 Obviously finishing wiring etc is esessional and will take priority but in between running sessions. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Malc on December 13, 2014, 11:54:30 AM
Know what you mean Jon. I have finished track laying and wiring. All the points work. The stations are fixed and populated, but I can't seem to get enthusiastic about the rest of the scenery. Been playing with JMRI instead.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on December 13, 2014, 12:02:56 PM
Keep going Jon and do what you can when you can.
And above all, enjoy running your trains.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 13, 2014, 12:29:10 PM
I fully agree with the above comments. How much scenic work is done is entirely up to the model railway's owner-operator, after all. We are all more (or less) interested in different aspects of railway modelling and no-one should feel guilty for neglecting one or more areas in favour of those which interest them more.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 13, 2014, 02:07:59 PM
I can't seem to get enthusiastic about the rest of the scenery. .
Thanks Malc.
The enthusiasm is buried away inside me its health reasons that are causing the problems :(
A big bucket of good health would soon see me up and running again  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on December 13, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
I can't seem to get enthusiastic about the rest of the scenery. .
Thanks Malc.
The enthusiasm is buried away inside me its health reasons that are causing the problems :(
A big bucket of good health would soon see me up and running again  :smiley-laughing:
Make sure that "big bucket of good health" isn't a bucket of whisky.
Might be a bit too much all in one go !
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on December 13, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
I'm one of the world's worst when it comes to scenery as, as soon as I can run trains, everything else seems to grind to a halt :-[
I haven't even got 'proper' electrics - everything is just jury rigged so trains can run :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: railsquid on December 13, 2014, 04:39:51 PM
I'm getting there... I'm acquiring lots of stock to ensure an excellent standard of service, and I just noticed I have boxes full of scenic items... However having discovered the concept of the folding dogbone, I'm now paralysed by watching the trains go round and round and up and down.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 13, 2014, 06:39:10 PM
I'm getting there...  I'm now paralysed by watching the trains go round and round and up and down.
That should keep you paralysed for a few months.
 Its known in many circles as running track and stock in. A worthy disease to suffer from.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 19, 2014, 04:35:26 PM
 :o Panic attack !!!
A pre lunch phone call informed us that youngest son, his partner along with young Mr Thomas and his 2 year old sister have decided to come to lunch tomorrow and  watch the twains  :doh:
hmmmmmmmmmmmp the Brighton Belle has not been tested /run in and defiantly not chipped as yet  :-[
The EMU  Desiro unit (GF 371-701)  bought back in the summer is in the same condition and its a while sinse the track has been cleaned :doh:
I can certainly say that there must be a special knack in connecting the BB units together but I got there in the end but left them together on a siding (with paper slips under the power unit wheels) ready for tomorrow. I must say it runs a dream although I did have to ease axles with the B-B gauge, but I did that even before I joined everything up
The desiro set ran very sweetly without any fettling or swearing at it.the above was followed by playing tra testing and thoroughly making certain everything is in order for tomorrows session   :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Even all the points worked today and might work tomorrow
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on December 19, 2014, 05:53:54 PM
Even all the points worked today and might work tomorrow

If ever I heard something said that is just ASKING for trouble.......
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on December 19, 2014, 05:56:21 PM
Even all the points worked today and might work tomorrow

If ever I heard something said that is just ASKING for trouble.......
Look on the positive side. If they work today they WILL work tomorrow.
Best of luck with the visitors.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on December 19, 2014, 05:58:12 PM
Look on the positive side. If they work today they WILL work tomorrow.
Best of luck with the visitors.

<wookie summons all his positivity and nearly blacks out the national grid>  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 20, 2014, 09:14:31 AM
Look on the positive side. If they work today they WILL work tomorrow.

So which is the positive side and which is the negative one?
 I recon the thick reds the positive and the skinny blacks the negative side
Have just programed a nuke to head for Wookie land if any points fail.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on December 20, 2014, 10:42:12 AM
Uh-Oh.
Incoming! :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 20, 2014, 10:49:14 AM
Uh-Oh.
Incoming! :worried:
A snags developed >:( I  dont know which direction Wookie land is from here  :-[ and even Google cant find it for me
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on December 20, 2014, 11:03:45 AM
Uh-Oh.
Incoming! :worried:
A snags developed >:( I  dont know which direction Wookie land is from here  :-[ and even Google cant find it for me

Somewhere in Ipswich >:D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on December 20, 2014, 12:28:39 PM
No no no - it's in Norwich in Carrow Road  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on December 20, 2014, 02:18:32 PM
No no no - it's in Norwich in Carrow Road  :smiley-laughing:

 :laughabovepost:
Don't think that's got you any brownie points from supporters of the Canaries :no:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 20, 2014, 03:50:25 PM
Uh-Oh.
Incoming! :worried:
A snags developed >:( I  dont know which direction Wookie land is from here  :-[ and even Google cant find it for me

Somewhere in Ipswich >:D
Whose witch?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 20, 2014, 04:10:13 PM
Despite wookies plans to knoble my efforts of yesterday any de-railments etc today were due to somebody fiddling about with point switches when I   wasn't looking  >:( Only once did a loco derail of its own accord and that was my Jinty travelling to fast through a set of linked points. No damage was done and I think Thomas thoroughly enjoyed the Hornby BB and the farish Desiro.
The sooner I can get all three chipped and  onto DCC the better for all concerned.
I`m going to need a simple test track for running in and programing though as  all I have at the moment is a 15" strait piece of track on a plank to program locos on.
A local handyman is changing a bathroom door for something `nicer` over the Christmas and is letting me have the old one. It will be shortened and have a flat figure of 8 glued to it and a couple of  points along one side to test running through setrack and electro points. There (maybe) a variety of types of code 80 track to make sure everything is compatable.
If the door dosnt arrive over the hols I may go down the local tip and get a cheap `ex door' someone dosnt want   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on December 20, 2014, 05:15:33 PM
Despite wookies plans to knoble my efforts

I give the guy a HUUUUUUGGGGEEEEE dose of positivity, and that's all the thanks I get  :o
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 21, 2014, 09:05:32 AM
Despite wookies plans to knoble my efforts

I give the guy a HUUUUUUGGGGEEEEE dose of positivity, and that's all the thanks I get  :o
Awwwwwwww  sorry the wire must have got crossed along the way because they arrived here with massive negative vibes ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on December 21, 2014, 11:56:23 AM
Hmmmm.... it sounds like you are suffering with polarity disfunction.
This can only be cured by applying copious amounts of playing testing trains  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 21, 2014, 02:26:29 PM
Hmmmm.... it sounds like you are suffering with polarity disfunction.
This can only be cured by applying copious amounts of playing testing trains  :smiley-laughing:
Im applying the cure  :thumbsup:
Testing track and stock close to their very limits  >:D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 23, 2014, 04:08:02 PM
Modification day in between trying to pack parcels quietly in the railway room  without being disturbed  ::)
Following advice given by Caz  in another part of the board  managed to rip carefully disconnect the turntable bridge and put it to one side whilst I try and work out how to repair the damaged handrail on one side.
Ive noticed that the whole thing was not sat very level in the baseboard so thought I would see why and modify the hole whilst I was working on the deck.
Seems that the hole is slightly oval and is pinching the turntable at an angle. so I will round that up a bit and try and correct everything whilst Im about it
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 30, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
A few problems solved over the Christmas brake with extra IRJs fitted to the turntable sidings and the whole turntable fitted in a slightly enlarged hole that allows it 'float' on its rim pieces and is therefore level with tracks leading on and off. Need to sort out a new feed for all the sidings and raise  the surface wiring under some plaster 'ground'.
Have been slightly let down in that a local handyman said he would let me have a used door that I could build a test and programing track on. Ive got all the required track and crossover etc ready but still no door  :(
2 nice metre lengths of cable trunking arrived this morning that I can use as complete train storage racks. I just need to work out how to make 1 end so that a train can just slide off it onto the track :-\
Oh yep ...........and a batch of locos that still need chipping  which I was/am going to do once the planning tracks done
Nice frosty day here with temperature still down below zero :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 03, 2015, 11:35:32 AM
 :doh: Hit a brick wall as far as 'Ruleoneshire' is concerned this week.
Nothing seemed to want to go in the direction that I wanted it (Thank gawd  Im  not building to a set plan.)
Feels like the first cold of the winters starting up and generating the standard lack of interest all round  :(
A package of odds and sods + a back order of a Faller covered footbridge arrived today. The bridge is only wanted for kit stealing of various parts and isn't important at the moment.
Megga row with a laminator yesterday ended up with it flying out of an upstairs window and a modern (and cheaper) replacement ordered. Replacing the page I was laminating and is still in the laminator produced the comment ...Out  of ink... :veryangry: :censored: :veryangry: so I am not at my most relaxed at the momment
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 03, 2015, 12:49:28 PM
Oh dear - time for a sit down, deep breaths and a refreshing cuppa, Jon :hmmm:
If the weather's any good afterwards you can go and kick the  :poop: out of the old laminator. This can be considered therapeutic ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 03, 2015, 02:17:04 PM
Oh dear - time for a sit down, deep breaths and a refreshing cuppa, Jon :hmmm:
If the weather's any good afterwards you can go and kick the  :poop: out of the old laminator. This can be considered therapeutic ;)
I found that chucking it out of the window was rather satisfying is some perverse way  >:D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jd on January 03, 2015, 02:23:33 PM
Oh dear - time for a sit down, deep breaths and a refreshing cuppa, Jon :hmmm:
If the weather's any good afterwards you can go and kick the  :poop: out of the old laminator. This can be considered therapeutic ;)
I found that chucking it out of the window was rather satisfying is some perverse way  >:D

Have a nice cuppa with a shot of brandy,and chill. But yes I totally get the perverse satisfying feeling of chucking stuff out of the window. We had a wardrobein my man cave that was falling apart, it found its way out of the window.
Jon 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on January 03, 2015, 02:55:39 PM
Do take it steady.
As the others say, take a deep breath and take a step backwards.
Nice cup of coffee usually helps.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on January 03, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Opening the window before ejecting the offending article can reduce any costs incurred!  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 03, 2015, 03:59:27 PM
Opening the window before ejecting the offending article can reduce any costs incurred!  ;)

Dave G
Off Topic anecdote following........
Between 1985 and 1989 I worked for a small firm making high quality reproduction carriage clocks. They had to be perfect to satisfy most of our customers here and in the States.
We were fast approaching a deadline for an order for the states and were having problems because a few shards of chipped sie glass were no one of the benches. Every time the boss finished a job he always inspected it closely The one in question had been ripped to pieces several times and scratched brasswork replaced.  After about the 6th rebuilds he wasn't in the best of moods (understatement) and finally the complete clock worth quite a bit was hurled across the assembly room and through the window. Nobody said a word and we started from scratch again but it was great to see 'time fly' like that for once. In the pub after work we all calmed down before heading home still chuckling
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 06, 2015, 10:38:01 AM
Settling down to near normality now but taking things easy (being bone idol  ::) )and just thinking modifications and improvements through in my minds eye.
Have ordered a cheapo door from B&Q online shop to at last build a decent testing/planning track ( a new thread probably once I have sorted things out )
Till then everything is on back burner till I`m off the steroids again (next week )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on January 06, 2015, 12:33:06 PM
till I`m off the steroids again
Watch out chaps - the Incredible Hulk is coming  :smiley-laughing:
Hope you are soon posting progress pics Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 06, 2015, 02:55:14 PM
till I`m off the steroids again
Watch out chaps - the Incredible Hulk is coming  :smiley-laughing:
Hope you are soon posting progress pics Jon
Yups ive been testing the results today and found that I`m nearly strong enough to crush a grape already   >:D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 06, 2015, 07:48:10 PM
till I`m off the steroids again
Watch out chaps - the Incredible Hulk is coming  :smiley-laughing:
Hope you are soon posting progress pics Jon
Yups ive been testing the results today and found that I`m nearly strong enough to crush a grape already   >:D

That's as  maybe - but can you rip a tissue? :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 07, 2015, 09:59:33 AM
till I`m off the steroids again
Watch out chaps - the Incredible Hulk is coming  :smiley-laughing:
Hope you are soon posting progress pics Jon
Yups ive been testing the results today and found that I`m nearly strong enough to crush a grape already   >:D

That's as  maybe - but can you rip a tissue? :P
Of course I can if I use both hands and my teeth
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 09, 2015, 04:44:59 PM
 >:D :worried:
Cant get at 'Ruleoneshire' to do anything because some silly twits put a cut down door in the way and is sticking cork all over it.
Still hes promised SHMBOd that from tomorrow evening it can be stood on end or on its side to make space for delayed modelling
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on January 09, 2015, 04:53:12 PM
>:D :worried:
Cant get at 'Ruleoneshire' to do anything because some silly twits put a cut down door in the way and is sticking cork all over it.
Still hes promised SHMBOd that from tomorrow evening it can be stood on end or on its side to make space for delayed modelling

I have a silly twit like that who keeps putting things away in safe places so that I can't find them  :doh:  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on January 09, 2015, 05:26:25 PM
I too have a silly twit like that.
I have to duck under the connecting rail line from Port Perran to Trepol Bay to get to my work station.
If I'm at my workstation, the silly twit (me) has left what I need on the Trepol Bay baseboard.
If I'm at Trepol Bay that same silly twit (me) has left what I need at my workstation.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 10, 2015, 11:23:07 AM
 :claphappy: :claphappy:
  Ruleoneshire is accessible again to some extent. Unfortunately Ann now requires the window sill beyond the turntable end to 'bring on' young plantlets and other non N gauge garden produce. So windowsill tool/track/odds and s*ds is now banned till about Easter time. Means I now have ex windowsill clutter to find a home for .
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on January 10, 2015, 11:52:14 AM
Sounds like you need to buy her an electric propagator....although it would still need some light.
I suppose I ought to put my tomato and celeriac seeds in soon.

<wookie looks out of the window and decides against it for now>  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Trainfish on January 10, 2015, 12:03:42 PM
Sounds like you need to buy her an electric propagator.

I think my wife's got one of these. Not sure she ever uses it though.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 10, 2015, 02:25:45 PM
We`ve got one and its in use for starting seeds orf on the kitchen windowsill but the upstairs  windowsill is always 'stage two' in the yearly cycle and planning laws were written when I first started model railway making back in 2008 and tried to monopolise the room  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on January 10, 2015, 02:36:43 PM
Ah yes, mustn't ignore planning laws.
Might result in a new concrete patio on the back garden  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 13, 2015, 04:32:29 PM
Theres a load of surface wiring to feed droppers that will end up under scrub pasture or similar. I laid it out and used masking tape to  hold it in position. It looked a right old mess so feeling somewhat better I ripped the masking tape off bit by bit and hot glued it all down, Its neater, flatter and dosnt look anywhere near as much as a mess as it did. Time to wire it into the feed wire tomorrow hopefully. A very weathered, battered shed will cover where the connections are made above the layout surface
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 15, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
Decide that yesterday afternoon I would test the layout out and run a few locos so that when Tom and family cane to tea I could amuse him for a bit.
I think from what I managed to get running its time I serviced several of my locos.  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 16, 2015, 04:22:27 PM
Where running is a bit 'iffy' I will try and get it better running especially as today I received a pack of 3 Atlas code 80 re-railers.I think 2 of them may replace the track sections of the double Peco level crossing (requires hammer and chisel crafting)
After all the many point motor issues I had back in the summer/autumn theres one that still insists on being problematic. I may replace the motor completely and see if a replacement sorts it out
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 17, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
Carried out a bit of servicing/oiling and testing my Fleischmann 796882 track cleaning loco just now. Runs a treat :thumbsup: The cleaning pads are a bit worn so Ive stuck on  a new pair so I will go and  play test it for a while  :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 20, 2015, 11:37:06 AM
Semi serviced and ran a few locos yesterday via good ole DC as Its what was connected and many of my locos arnt per converted to DCC yet. In fact I think DCCing is beyond a few of them due to old age and heavy usage.
I ran my chipped Fairburn for some time and was horrified at the way the ponys kept de-railing. Front loco is now 'weighted' but the back one is still playing up (and Ive lost the holding washer :censored: :veryangry: )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on January 20, 2015, 11:44:20 AM
Now now Jon, remember your blood pressure....
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 23, 2015, 11:22:52 AM
That pony washer was never found :( despite mgnet searching and grovelling around on my knees. None of the usual splendid parts suppliers could help either so I ended up buying a packet of 100 assorted watch/clock from a trade supplier I used to use way back when I was working. Looks like theres several size options that might be suitable but Ive yet to hunt through them all.
Retail therapy has raised my spirits slightly with a 08  converted by Wickness spurring me onwards
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 29, 2015, 11:30:36 AM
 >:( Out of the pack of 100 washers I have discovered that none are suitable even if bodge. carefully modified so its back to square 1. A fleebay search came up with 12 and 14 BA brass washers so Im just weighting for them to arrive and will see if they are any good.
Intend to run a few locos and stock later today just to calm me down a bit  :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 29, 2015, 03:13:24 PM

Intend to run a few locos and stock later today just to calm me down a bit  :-[

Always therapeutic, Jon :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 05, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Many moons ago when 'Ruleoneshire' was a mere figment of my dreams I purchaced a Prodigy Advanced for the day when I and the track would be ready to be conbined. Sinse then many months, years and  mistakes and frustrations have passed by. In every case Ive managed to quietly  :-\ overcome them apart from the final hurdle........DCC  :doh:
Ive not chipped many locos and have a list to work my way through once I have my dedicated test track complete.
I recently bought a class 08  from messers Wickness  which Ive drooled over for a week or so but but Today 05/02/2015 I finally plucked up courage and havening cleaned track etc I put it on 'Ruleoneshire' and connected up the Prodigy.
Selecting loco 03 I was staggered to see it actually moving sedately along the track. It even speeds up very slowely and slows down just as sedately
 :claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:
I be happy for once
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 05, 2015, 03:19:01 PM
Excellent, Jon. I send all my locos. and DMUs to Wickness for DCC fitting and have always been very happy with the results.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Trainfish on February 06, 2015, 02:11:39 AM
Great stuff Jon. I had DCC once and yes it was good but if I have 1 piece of advice then this is it. Beware that you can set 2 trains up unwittingly to head straight towards each other. Just make sure you know where the panic button is on your controller! I've gone back to DC now, not for that reason I hasten to add, and I have 4 panic buttons on my layout like the one below in the top left corner of the first picture below. A bit drastic maybe but they cut the power to all controllers instantly and hopefully avoid disasters like in the bottom picture. You don't always see it happening of course..........................   :thumbsdown:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19565.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19565)

You can of course have accidents with DC too if you don't watch what you're doing.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/32/thumb_20921.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=20921)

Please note that no small people were harmed in this incident  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 06, 2015, 10:56:34 AM


Please note that no small people were harmed in this incident  :thumbsup:
Any incidents like that may actually be harmed if they are caused by 2 certain young persons here  >:D
Thanks for your input anyway  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 19, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
I think I must run a few trains again this week and get some progress going  :dunce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on February 19, 2015, 07:35:37 PM
I think I must run a few trains again this week and get some progress going  :dunce:
Have fun.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 23, 2015, 09:39:50 AM
Strange  :worried: :confused1: nearly everything seems to run OK apart from 1 Bachmann loco that jumps its pony in 3 points.
B2B is fine (ish) but a fraction wide so I`ll adjust that and double check the points.
Lots still to do before The summer and 'going out' weather arrives.
Replacement bridge arriving later from Germany. Spotted it in another thread and its vastly better looking than mt trestle bridge.....although some of that will have to form a link onto it.
http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg (http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg) .Cashing in the bonus euros I had I ended up paying 9 for the kit.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on February 23, 2015, 10:35:27 AM
Have you checked the back to back on the pony wheels?   ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on February 23, 2015, 11:12:39 AM
Have you checked the back to back on the pony wheels?   ;)

What do you mean by that Caz?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 23, 2015, 11:19:14 AM
It's the measurement between the backs of the wheels, and gauges are available for checking that measurement. Some factory fitted stuff can be slightly out.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on February 23, 2015, 11:20:40 AM
Ah ok thanks
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 23, 2015, 11:33:50 AM
Have you checked the back to back on the pony wheels?   ;)
Thanks Caz but that's always my 1st stop. It maybe just a fraction wide  :thumbsup: but I think it just lacks any weight so if the tracks not 110% perfect it can cause problems
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 23, 2015, 04:41:08 PM
I was warned this morning that young Thomas might come over this afternoon so much of my time has been spent track cleaning. levelling and sorting any non perfect areas out. ::) and no visiters arrived  :thumbsdown: I guess SWMBO just wanted me to tidy up the layabout area  :hmmm:
1 area showed a slight sudden change of incline and in the end the only way I could see to correct it was  :worried: :o put a piece of wood across it and..............






.................................






............hit it with a hammer and then re-glue the  trackbed.
Its worked (of course) but now the long wait till its firmly glued under metal packing pieces
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 25, 2015, 11:35:24 AM
1 set of points that were playing up my Bachmann loco up and derailing the pony has I think now been sorted (to be confirmed later today) and was caused by the end of the frog rail being slightly proud of the track so that when the loco arrived  the pony was 'bounced' up onto the track (or not). I guess its partly extra small diameter pony wheels clashing with peco points. Ive smoothed the end down and back just a fraction.
The bridge is now complete........well its being held together with masking tape so that I can check all measurements regarding its position length and height. Then it will be modified to fit----- stripped down -- -cleaned up and painted.



Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: georgehgv on February 28, 2015, 09:13:36 AM
Strange  :worried: :confused1: nearly everything seems to run OK apart from 1 Bachmann loco that jumps its pony in 3 points.
B2B is fine (ish) but a fraction wide so I`ll adjust that and double check the points.
Lots still to do before The summer and 'going out' weather arrives.
Replacement bridge arriving later from Germany. Spotted it in another thread and its vastly better looking than mt trestle bridge.....although some of that will have to form a link onto it.
[url]http://www.modellbahnshop-ilippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.modellbahnshop-Mlippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url]) .Cashing in the bonus euros I had I ended up paying 9 for the kit.


Great find Jon. I saw mine on Ebay already assembled but in a terrible state. Have you started assembling it yet? Oh just noticed you are nearby, are you going to Basingstoke Show in a fortnight? I have arranged to collect 4 locos currently being DCC chipped then.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2015, 11:20:09 AM
Strange  :worried: :confused1: nearly everything seems to run OK apart from 1 Bachmann loco that jumps its pony in 3 points.
B2B is fine (ish) but a fraction wide so I`ll adjust that and double check the points.
Lots still to do before The summer and 'going out' weather arrives.
Replacement bridge arriving later from Germany. Spotted it in another thread and its vastly better looking than mt trestle bridge.....although some of that will have to form a link onto it.
[url]http://www.modellbahnshop-ilippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.modellbahnshop-Mlippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url]) .Cashing in the bonus euros I had I ended up paying 9 for the kit.

I had hoped to go....it would have been my 1stever show but Ive been advised not to go anywhere that I may encounter crowds because of COPD  problems :( :( :'( :'(
I had been looking forward to attending for months now

Great find Jon. I saw mine on Ebay already assembled but in a terrible state. Have you started assembling it yet? Oh just noticed you are nearby, are you going to Basingstoke Show in a fortnight? I have arranged to collect 4 locos currently being DCC chipped then.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: georgehgv on February 28, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Oh sorry Jon. Am in the beginning of reading progress on Ruleoneshire, Basingstoke is a good show but does get busy. Cheers, Geo
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2015, 11:33:43 AM
Oh sorry Jon. Am in the beginning of reading progress on Ruleoneshire,
:goggleeyes:  Theres a beginning to it ?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Railwaygun on February 28, 2015, 11:40:37 AM
Replacement bridge arriving later from Germany. Spotted it in another thread and its vastly better looking than mt trestle bridge.....although some of that will have to form a link onto it.
http://www.modellbahnshop-XXiXXlippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg (http://www.modellbahnshop-XXiXXlippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg) .Cashing in the bonus euros I had I ended up paying 9 for the kit.

an extra I!!

http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg (http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 28, 2015, 11:48:50 AM
Replacement bridge arriving later from Germany. Spotted it in another thread and its vastly better looking than mt trestle bridge.....although some of that will have to form a link onto it.
[url]http://www.modellbahnshop-XXiXXlippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.modellbahnshop-XXiXXlippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url]) .Cashing in the bonus euros I had I ended up paying 9 for the kit.

an extra I!!

[url]http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url])


Alas, that URL does not now work: 'This webpage is not available'
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2015, 11:52:20 AM
 :headbutt: :headbutt:
http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg (http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on February 28, 2015, 04:40:33 PM
Strange  :worried: :confused1: nearly everything seems to run OK apart from 1 Bachmann loco that jumps its pony in 3 points.
B2B is fine (ish) but a fraction wide so I`ll adjust that and double check the points.
Lots still to do before The summer and 'going out' weather arrives.
Replacement bridge arriving later from Germany. Spotted it in another thread and its vastly better looking than mt trestle bridge.....although some of that will have to form a link onto it.
[url]http://www.modellbahnshop-ilippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.modellbahnshop-Mlippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url]) .Cashing in the bonus euros I had I ended up paying 9 for the kit.


When I posted a pic of that bridge on my layout I got some nefarious remarks about some Tynesiders wanting their bridge back . :)   Here's my post and scroll down two messages to see the offending reply by NPN.   ;)  http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.msg74923#msg74923 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.msg74923#msg74923)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 28, 2015, 04:44:45 PM
That was nearly 3 years ago, Caz.
I was just a cheeky youngster then ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2015, 04:49:19 PM
It looks good where ever its placed.
Where did the Newcastle brown mob nick theirs from?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: georgehgv on February 28, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
Strange  :worried: :confused1: nearly everything seems to run OK apart from 1 Bachmann loco that jumps its pony in 3 points.
B2B is fine (ish) but a fraction wide so I`ll adjust that and double check the points.
Lots still to do before The summer and 'going out' weather arrives.
Replacement bridge arriving later from Germany. Spotted it in another thread and its vastly better looking than mt trestle bridge.....although some of that will have to form a link onto it.
[url]http://www.modellbahnshop-ilippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.modellbahnshop-Mlippe.com/article_data/images/43/35070_b.jpg[/url]) .Cashing in the bonus euros I had I ended up paying 9 for the kit.


When I posted a pic of that bridge on my layout I got some nefarious remarks about some Tynesiders wanting their bridge back . :)   Here's my post and scroll down two messages to see the offending reply by NPN.   ;)  [url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.msg74923#msg74923[/url] ([url]http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6570.msg74923#msg74923[/url])


How did I guess NN was a commenter?  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Trainfish on February 28, 2015, 05:06:28 PM
That was nearly 3 years ago, Caz.
I was just a cheeky youngster then ;)

NPN minus 3 years does not equal a youngster!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 28, 2015, 09:17:04 PM
That was nearly 3 years ago, Caz.
I was just a cheeky youngster then ;)

NPN minus 3 years does not equal a youngster!

Drat - busted. Presumably my cheque didn't arrive >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 04, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
Decided to do a bit yesterday so had just started when a huge lawn mower battery  pack arrived in the layout room.
Literally swimming in condensation and general overwintering dampness.
Took an hour to instruct eldest son how to strip in down/clean and dry all contacts and get him to reassemble it then put it on charge.
Still dosnt work but I think the problem may now br in the mower motor bearings.........guess what my next job is  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 28, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
The mower battery proved itself to be dead battery pack and a new mower complete was purchased.
That was yonks ago though and since then Ive been having a break from modelling to try and clear up the 'I`m totally useless' feeling that's left feeling me permanentlyknac worn out.
Doc. recons I`ll be back to normality by next week so will try and make a re-start on the layouts   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 28, 2015, 11:46:58 AM
Thanks for the update, Jon. I had wondered how things were going. I hope that you will be back to normal and able to make a re-start on your layouts soon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 28, 2015, 12:09:21 PM
Sorry to hear you've been in the doldrums lately, Jon. I look forward to your next update (please charge up the camera battery) ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on March 28, 2015, 12:13:59 PM
I hope you return to normality soon Jon.
Remember-modelling is a great tonic.
Take it easy.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 28, 2015, 02:11:42 PM
I hope you return to normality soon Jon.
Remember-modelling is a great tonic.
Take it easy.
1st define 'normality' in relation to my modelling and ramblings  ;)
Thanks everybody though for the encouraging comments  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 18, 2015, 04:22:00 PM
 :worried: Been a while since Ive had any modelling enthusiasm but Ve just gone and had a look at the layout. One thing that's long niggled me is that the exit from the turntable is contra normal UK running direction so getting a a loco into the outer circuit mean reversing out onto the track and then changing direction  to  the loco to get clockwise running correct
  1  I considered several ways out of the problem the fist being rip everything up and start again.
  2  include various slips and crossovers. then realised to do that would include changing to code 55. (costa del fortuna  :'( )
  3 shorten 2 minor sidings back a bit and make an extra road  off the turntable leading to the layout  andcausing the loco to go instantly in the right direction

After much braincell searching  no3 is the obvious choice and will cost approximately 1 single throw switch and a couple of feet of wiring so if the medics tell me that I am still alive after Thursdays spiromitary   I will risk starting the modifications
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 18, 2015, 04:30:26 PM
Thanks for the welcome update, Jon. I hope that all will go well for you and your layout.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 18, 2015, 09:11:58 PM
if the medics tell me that I am still alive after Thursdays spiromitary   I will risk starting the modifications

Let us know how you get on, Jon (from someone who had the same test last Monday).
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on April 18, 2015, 10:26:52 PM
I hope everything works out for you Jon, medicaly and re modeling.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 19, 2015, 11:26:59 AM
 ::) Just sorted through my stock of points and find that the Fleischmann points that I  hoped to use had far to tight a radius to put in the 'main' track loop so Ive had to send off for 12" radius Peco 00-9 track which I hope will fit in without to much of a problem. The tightest code 80 electro frog point has an 18"  radius which is far to big for where I would need it.
The other problem is that the motor will have to be a surface mounted  PL11 which means that I`ll have to use a CDU and put up with the noise as it clunks across  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 20, 2015, 02:20:06 PM
Hattons excelled themselves this morning. I placed an order for a couple of pairs of points yesterday at about 11 0`clock for delivery by Royal mail in about 2 days.
This morning at 10-15 Mr Yodel delivered the parcel. Pretty good service I recon  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Still think I can get better radius points from a maker somewhere but Iv spent  hours trying to find  a RTR set anywhere   
pity someone dosnt do a chart of sizes for us to browse when we are looking for  something  of obscure measurements.
Im actually now searching for a Peco code 55 short set of points Ive got stashed away somewhere jus to see if thats any use if I mount it on a packing shim  :worried: ::)
I bet its R/H if I find it  >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 20, 2015, 02:51:07 PM
If you look up Peco points on the Hattons website they do give measurements such as overall length, turnout radius etc
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 20, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
If you look up Peco points on the Hattons website they do give measurements such as overall length, turnout radius etc
Thanks Mick I had forgotten that but have found the relevant details details in the Peco catalogue and noted them down in my modellers handbook. (Back of a serial packet)




 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on April 20, 2015, 11:01:18 PM
You can also download patterns/templates  of the points from the Peco web site  http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=tempc55 (http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=tempc55)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 21, 2015, 11:48:54 AM
You can also download patterns/templates  of the points from the Peco web site  [url]http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=tempc55[/url] ([url]http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=tempc55[/url])

Thanks Chris I had the full range of code 80 in N and 00-9 gauge printed out from a couple of years back but I had never bothered to copy code 55.  That is now corrected and the whole lot stored in scale 1-1 and copies run off for use
as and when needed 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 24, 2015, 10:36:59 AM
 :) I managed to bullsh talk my way through my spirometery test yesterday and was told that I`m as fit as I can hope to be  :confused1: so within the next day or so I should be able to knuckle down and do a few odds and ends
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on April 24, 2015, 10:44:57 AM
I guess that's good news, Jon.

Having some 'limiting issues' I now work at a pace I'm comfortable with, stop the moment I want/need to and be pleased with what I achieve. Getting frustrated is just a waste of limited energy!   ;)

Take care and have fun!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on April 24, 2015, 01:51:01 PM
I guess that's good news, Jon.

Having some 'limiting issues' I now work at a pace I'm comfortable with, stop the moment I want/need to and be pleased with what I achieve. Getting frustrated is just a waste of limited energy!   ;)

Take care and have fun!

Dave G


I agree with Dave getting frustrated because you can't do as much you want to in one go does not help you to enjoy your hobby and wears you out faster.
Take care but enjoy yourself
 ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 24, 2015, 02:14:39 PM
I guess that's good news, Jon.

Having some 'limiting issues' I now work at a pace I'm comfortable with, stop the moment I want/need to and be pleased with what I achieve. Getting frustrated is just a waste of limited energy!   ;)

Take care and have fun!

Dave G


I agree with Dave getting frustrated because you can't do as much you want to in one go does not help you to enjoy your hobby and wears you out faster.
Take care but enjoy yourself
 ::)
I totally agree about getting frustrated but all my life Ive been someone who gets on with something and often refused to stop till it was finished. Backing off and resting has been till late a no go area but I am learning the hard way
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on April 24, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
Just take it easy Jon and go steady.
Do what you can when you can.
Chin up.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on April 24, 2015, 10:53:59 PM
Just take it easy Jon and go steady.
Do what you can when you can.
Chin up.

My feelings too. If it's any consolation I too am having difficulty in adapting to advancing years. Fortunately I have reasonable health but I can't do a quarter of what I used to do a few years ago.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 27, 2015, 11:39:23 AM
 :claphappy: :claphappy: I actually managed to do a bit yesterday afternoon. It mainly consisted of  checking points in where I want to break into the main circuit and staring at each one intently to work out which would be best suited and checking o see which feed droppers will need fitting but at least I gave up with a few definite ideas ready to work on probably starting tomorrow morning. Theres no hope of me working beneath the board so contoured plaster scenic ground will be needed to hide wiring and chopped of disused sidings. An old Ratio parcels shed may get modified as a disused delapitated wiring cover.
1st thing now is chop out ex sidings and get the new point laid and wired   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 27, 2015, 11:52:51 AM
Glad to hear you're easing yourself back into it, Jon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on April 27, 2015, 01:23:24 PM
Sounds like a good plan.

I've not tried it (yet) but would think that surface wiring needn't be an eyesore especially with a touch of imaginative use of scenic work.

Look forward to hearing how you get on.

Dave G

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 27, 2015, 01:38:11 PM
Glad to hear you're easing yourself back into it, Jon :thumbsup:
Oh Im always *back innit* its just the depth that *im innit* that varies  :-[  :angel:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 28, 2015, 04:01:12 PM
 :) Actually managed to remove old Peco level crossing and replace the track bit with an Atlas re-railler. Dosnt look bad but needs new ramps both sides.
3 sections of track removed and 2 replaced leading into the new set of points position. Nearly run out of Fleischman rail joiners and I  refuse to use some old Peco ones that Iv had years
Bit tired now but It was a good work session and breathing hasn't really suffered for once  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on April 28, 2015, 05:11:36 PM
Good news.
Enjoy a well earned rest.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 30, 2015, 11:03:14 AM
 :doh: Yesterday was a bit mucked about as  far as railway progressed was concerned.
1st It was Anns birthday so the morning was messed about giving pressies etc 
2nd the postman delivered my postal voting forms so I got them out the way
Son/his partner and our grandkids announced that they would be over mid afternoon and expect a cooked birthday tea  :-\
Did manage a couple of hours sorting through track bits and seeing if any could fit into the newly modified section of the layout. Next came wiring wiring where and how positioning to allow connection to existing (and removed ) track sections.
One section looked to be a right nightmare but on microscopic inspection turned out to be just 1 set of droppers  :uneasy:
This afternoon ...................................................... maybe finish off laying/wiring and get things up and running again.  :) :thumbsup:
Once that's done 'grandpas chuff chuffs' can run  again and I can hook into the turntable between running sessions
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 30, 2015, 11:34:12 AM
:doh: Yesterday was a bit mucked about as  far as railway progressed was concerned.
1st It was Anns birthday so the morning was messed about giving pressies etc 


I'm sure you'd be in the doghouse if the light of your life read that, Jon :o :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 30, 2015, 04:01:01 PM
Browsing the forum this morning I spotted Croxys  Yew trees thread and noticed the picture of the Fleishmann curved points which I had semi ignored (the points not the thread)as beig to tight a curve but infact they are closer to the curves that I need so Ive ordered 1 of them and will check it out and return to sender if it turns out to be unsuitable. Its going to save me quite a few problems if it does fit so a big thank you to Croxy for the picture
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 03, 2015, 11:44:22 AM
Had several 'great' plans for yesterday but in the end I just wasn't in the mood so sat down with a couple of old  world war 2 film DVDs and relaxed. I had been let down anyway and my curved Fleischmann points failed to arrive so I`m stumped till Tuesday at the earliest.
Might change a couple of point motors this afternoon as they seem to be struggling for no apparent reason  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 03, 2015, 04:05:53 PM
Managed to replace a siding set of points with a newish set which still has its locking spring in place. That means that the tortoise point motor below it can be removed eventually but for now just disabled and a spare peco PL11 used in its place. Don't like surface point motors but for now it will get me out of the :poop:
The remaining siding tracks are slightly short so I will take the easy way out and lift nd shift them slightly to the right and relink them to the points
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: georgehgv on May 03, 2015, 08:52:22 PM
Glad to hear you're easing yourself back into it, Jon :thumbsup:
Oh Im always *back innit* its just the depth that *im innit* that varies  :-[  :angel:

That sounds like one of NN's specials. :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 03, 2015, 09:40:40 PM
Glad to hear you're easing yourself back into it, Jon :thumbsup:
Oh Im always *back innit* its just the depth that *im innit* that varies  :-[  :angel:

That sounds like one of NN's specials. :smiley-laughing:

I resemble that remark :telloff:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 07, 2015, 05:48:33 PM
 :uneasy: Not a good week.
Monday wife and son were out. Younger son brought the 2 grandkids  over with the little girl in full screech mode  :-X I wasnt impressed.
Tuesday set about working out it the Fleischmann points would fit but had to give up when I started to feel rough.
sore and anti everything (but then again everything seemed anti me).
Wednesday woke about 5a.m shivering and needed leek so off I went then realised my inhaler was back in the bedroom :worried: managed to get back in the bedroom and used the inhaler and slipped a jip up jumper on before crawling under the sheets again. 15-20 minutes later I was boiling hot :confused1:
Spent the next 4/5 hours alternating from roasting to freezing. To keep all this company my chest was constricted and my abdomen sore as ......
never did get up just  :uneasy: suffered in silence all day till breathing dropped right off and I resorted to yet another dose of  stairods
  Thursday... At least I slept most of last night. Even had some most of the night and had a more settled day today partly thanks to 1 paracetamol every 6 hours.
Now a few more hours sleep before I fall   :laugh: :sleep: :sleep:
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 07, 2015, 06:26:34 PM
Very sorry to read that, Jon. I hope you're feeling better, soon, and able to sort out those Fleischmann points.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on May 07, 2015, 07:18:54 PM
I do hope you start to recover soon Jon and start to feel a bit better.
Hopefully you'll feel up to a bit of modelling soon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on May 07, 2015, 07:36:27 PM
It is a right pain in the you know what when you get a week like that Jon.  I also suffer from those damned hot and cold flushes but mine is caused by medication.  It is the hot and cold flushes that wake me more than my bladder does these days, but you just have to look forward to the times when these symptoms settle down somewhat and life is more bearable  ;)

At least you keep persevering and make some progress, even if it is only a little and your sense of humour still shows  :NGaugersRule:

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 07, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
Good to see your sense of humour sticking 2 fingers up at everything that's besetting you at present, Jon, and I hope things improve very soon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on May 07, 2015, 09:58:47 PM
Adding my best wishes for a speedy return to better health, Jon.

Stick with it!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 08, 2015, 11:27:37 AM
Thanks everybody for your comments and wishes.
Not a bad nights sleep and still slightly muzzy headed and not 100% stable mentally :confused2: :uneasy: or physically
Ive even got up and dressed already today.  :hmmm: 
Will not be up track work etc. today  :hmmm: 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 09, 2015, 11:28:17 AM
 :-\ feel neo-human today.
Even struggle down stairs when the posty rang the door bell with a couple of boxes. That sent me off kilter a bit and there was no hesitation to taking the stair lift back upstairs.
My trusty just carried on out in the back garden tending her plants and didn't even know the post had been.
Proves I`m not back into modelling mode yet though  :veryangry:
Quacks appointment Monday afternoon so fingers crossed :uneasy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 09, 2015, 11:33:23 AM
I hope you can get back to feeling ready to return to your railway layout soon, Jon, and the doctor's assessment on Monday afternoon is positive.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Bealman on May 09, 2015, 11:36:32 AM
I reckon all the quacks need a tracksetta  :thumbsup:

Good luck on Monday!

George
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on May 09, 2015, 12:03:25 PM
All the very best for Monday Jon.

Martin
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 11, 2015, 07:14:20 PM

Quacks appointment Monday afternoon so fingers crossed :uneasy:
Seen this doctor a few years back but always 'stuck' with the one who has just retired.
New broom sweeps cleaner springs to mind.
I know CPOD is her speciality and I don't think I`m going to be disappointed.
Going to juggle my inhalers and try a different one till the right ones found.. but only 1 change at a time till the menu is right.
Very pleasant youngish lady ;) with a great sense of humour and I can tell theres going to be a fair bit of cross banter as we establish boundaries
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on May 11, 2015, 07:42:33 PM
I think a change of doctor will do absolutely no harm at all.
Hope everything works out well for you but the main thing is .....take your time and take it easy.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on May 11, 2015, 07:45:59 PM
A fresh insight may work well for you Jon and the fact she is pleasant and youngish is a bonus  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 11, 2015, 09:27:55 PM
If she's that pleasant, there shouldn't be any 'cross' banter (unless you don't do what she tells you to do, Jon :telloff:)
30 or so years ago a locum doctor told me exactly what the problem was with my hip when my 'normal' doc kept coming up with all sorts of ridiculous diagnoses which even I knew were wrong, so a change of doc/opinion can and does work.
Good luck :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on May 11, 2015, 10:09:55 PM
Sounds like a good change ;). My wife suffers from the same condition and some while ago saw a locum specialist who changed some of her medication. It made quite a difference.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 12, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
:claphappy: Started on the new inhaler this morning. Obviously its far to early to judge its long term results but Ive yet to have to go anywhere near my short term(get out of trouble quick) Ventoline inhaler but it looks a fair result even as a starter. I even walked downstairs with no resulting problems just now.
Discovered that if your not carefull Cobalt wiring can slip out of the sockets. I replaced one in desperation with a temporary PL11 but will reinstate the cobalt once Im up and running better. The cobalt next to it looked a bit 'odd' and crawls across  when called up and Ive noticed (finally) that one of its power wires is nearly out of its socket  :veryangry:.
Going to do a few bits and pieces to the layout today but will be running on very low revs till I can see how I cope.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on May 12, 2015, 11:50:31 AM
Great that you're up n about but just take it easy.

Hope the new doc/meds do well.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 12, 2015, 01:18:16 PM
If she's that pleasant, there shouldn't be any 'cross' banter
'Exchange' of banter might be better wording then :laugh: perhaps
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 13, 2015, 02:52:13 PM
1 PL11 sorted out and just needs a switch wired in rather than just swiping a wire across another as in probe and stud technique
Now its back to the new curved Fleischmann points and wiring it in.
The  track is cut and removed slightly in both directions and its now a case of linking it back into the outer main loop. Needs a few very short linking sections with power feed but they will be here end of w :-\eek and a length of flexi between the ends.
The spur to the turntable is going to be a similar job but I think that terminating on a turntable road will give me an easier route and option of terminating track  :hmmm:
(overspent this month just on Odds & Ss)  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on May 13, 2015, 09:38:45 PM
I overspend every month :-[. I've got the dog house into quite a comfortable place now :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 14, 2015, 09:19:03 AM
I overspend every month :-[. I've got the dog house into quite a comfortable place now :D
That must be the dog house next to mine then  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 14, 2015, 09:26:17 AM
Today (with luck) Mr Posty is scheduled to bring me a
package from G Masters
stock of wiring from Fleebay,
couple of random packages
1 cordless door bell and receiver so I can call Ann at my whim and demand coffee-tea-scratch my back etc. and not have to rush downstairs to answer the door to mr posty if she is out in the garden.
2 new Wasgijs which we already have several of and enjoy doing of an evening (very therapeutic in times of stress)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 14, 2015, 01:29:04 PM
2 new Wasgijs which we already have several of and enjoy doing of an evening (very therapeutic in times of stress)

Sorry, Jon. You'll have to explain that one to me :dunce:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Basinga on May 14, 2015, 01:39:00 PM
They're jigsaw puzzles, with a difference. There's actually 2 puzzles in one box, but only 1 picture on the box. The first puzzle (the box picture) gives you clues to what the second jigsaw's picture is.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 14, 2015, 01:42:35 PM
They're jigsaw puzzles, with a difference. There's actually 2 puzzles in one box, but only 1 picture on the box. The first puzzle (the box picture) gives you clues to what the second jigsaw's picture is.

Thanks. It never entered my thick head to read 'jigsaw' backwards :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 14, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
2 new Wasgijs which we already have several of and enjoy doing of an evening (very therapeutic in times of stress)

Sorry, Jon. You'll have to explain that one to me :dunce:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
See Basingas post (a man of local breading no doubt)
Another explanation.
the picture on the box lid shows the scene as it was  say 50years ago and using the pieces in the box you have to work out what it probably looks like today.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 15, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
Wish I could say that I got a lot sorted out and done yesterday and today but a fair bit has been accomplished but the only visible outcome is a slight attack of rail joiners finger  :o
Though I id manage to move  a couple of sidings 1/4" east and re-join and glue 'em down them in their new position.
In all seriousness I would like to know who is using/drinking all my soldering flux when I'm not looking.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 15, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
In all seriousness I would like to know who is using/drinking all my soldering flux when I'm not looking.

Not me :no:
Last time I tried that it gave me the flux :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 18, 2015, 11:17:17 AM
In some ways a non modelling weekend.
  In others.............. odds and ends of kit bashing with a pile of scrap and some modified odds and s*ds littering the layout.
I really need to persuade a younger (30yo) to nip under the layout for a few minutes and trim some poly sheeting away from an area where I need to rewire/expand a bus installation. A packet of very short track sections turned up Saturday and Ive managed to install just one so far.
Feeding the local vampire community tomorrow to see if my blood is still liquid and if so what sort  ::) just to please my new GP
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Tom U on May 18, 2015, 12:38:22 PM

If you want to do some blood letting - just install some rail joiners on those new track sections, that should do it!  ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 18, 2015, 02:44:18 PM

If you want to do some blood letting - just install some rail joiners on those new track sections, that should do it!  ;)
Thanks Tom U. I have had that method of b.letting ingrained in my system sinse 2008  :( :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 20, 2015, 11:32:16 AM
 :worried: Well the blood did flow  :doh:
Tried to do some chopping and sawing on the layout afterwards but a distinct lack of air forced me to abandon the project  :(
The new inhaler worked fantastically the first week but isn't doing its job so well this week.
I was on stairrods last week and wonder if coming off them might be causing a problem or two  :worried:
Will try and get back into sawing etc. later today with the backup of the good old  ventolin puffer to help and a face mask to keep dust out.
Really need to get outside and spray paint some 'bits' but I think that will require better weather  :-\ 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Basinga on May 20, 2015, 02:12:08 PM
I was on stairrods last week and wonder if coming off them might be causing a problem or two  :worried:

I wouldn't be at all surprised. My fiancee suffers rheumatoid arthritis in the arms and legs, when she's been on "the good stuff" for a while, it plays all kinds of havoc when she comes off them.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 21, 2015, 11:04:21 AM
 ::) Been scratching my head this morning and havnt as yet come up with a solution (just sore fingers)
I`m reroofing the station and need some ridge tiles .Ive come up  with the idea of using right angled styrene strips and filing/sawing marks along it to denote joins. Anybody got any other ideas or solutions
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on May 21, 2015, 10:37:52 PM
I've heard that head scratching is a sign of impending dandruff :o
If the apex of your roof is at 90 then no problem. Would another solution be to use paper and print out ridge tiles? If you need depth then print onto heavier paper.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 26, 2015, 03:58:17 PM
Long drawn out sorting the curved points out. The radius is a bit tight for what I need so Ive cut the turn of track length back an inch or so and that seems to make things a bit easier.
Today Ive recut the semi ridged track  and got that to look a reasonable fit Just hope tomorrow to get it laid as I want it.
 The station roof is coming on OK bit a tad slow. :(  Semi flattened out some 4mm styrene angle to make the ridge tile strip and I think :worried: that should work once its been scored and filed to the profile I want.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 26, 2015, 09:19:48 PM
About time you charged those camera batteries up methinks, Jon ;) :camera:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 27, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
About time you charged those camera batteries up methinks, Jon ;) :camera:
The fact is I hate taking photos  :(
Maybe if I had a good camera it wouldn't be so bad but getting one would deny me pennies spent on railway modelling stuff
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 09, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
 :o A month on the new inhaler and not a thing done to the layout
I guess its caused by little or no concentration to drive me along.
Anyway the monthly Doc. visit happened yesterday and was reasonably satisfactory. Need a picture taken of my perfectly formed  :-\ chest and its innards because Ive not had any taken for about 3 years then we will see how things go for a couple of months.
I may even end up selling all my N&Z gauge stuff as a mega lot. Theres no way I`ll break it down and sell everything as separate items.
Time will tell  :'( :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on June 09, 2015, 01:19:00 PM
'Act in haste and repent at leisure' as they say, Jon.
Please wait and see what the doc says.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 09, 2015, 02:07:16 PM
'Act in haste and repent at leisure' as they say, Jon.
Please wait and see what the doc says.
Indeed that's what I intend to do but for now Im not pushing to get on with the layouts  :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 10, 2015, 02:11:58 PM
SOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo this morning the guy turned up to service my stair lift, and a very thorough job he made of it and then coming into our bedroom for me to sign his service sheet, where the PC is he noticed my Peco catalogue  :doh: skulking  next to the PC desk and I asked if I had ever built one  >:D I threw him out of the bedroom and pushed towards the other room and told him to enter it.
Here followed a friendly debate for half an hour debate over the meets of `Orrible Oversized'.  gauge and the perfect  :angel: scale of N gauge It ended  with me having an extra friend who may pop in a few times to discuss and ven help me out with a few odds and ends
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on June 10, 2015, 04:47:08 PM
Glad to hear you didn't fire him into the wall after all, Jon.
Look forward to hearing you've converted him (and I don't mean kicked him between the uprights :goggleeyes:)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on June 10, 2015, 06:41:33 PM
It ended  with me having an extra friend who may pop in a few times to discuss and ven help me out with a few odds and ends

Great news Jon, sounds as though he could be very useful.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on June 10, 2015, 07:40:11 PM
It just shows if you strike up a conversation, you never know where it will lead  :NGaugersRule:

Do you have any requirements for a stair lift in n gauge  :D

cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on June 10, 2015, 10:10:35 PM
Excellent, you can't have too many friends especially with the same interest. I was talking to one of the girls who works in our local supermarket and found out her husband is a railway modeler, in HO, but I won't hold that against him :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 12, 2015, 10:59:13 AM
It just shows if you strike up a conversation, you never know where it will lead  :NGaugersRule:

Do you have any requirements for a stair lift in n gauge  :D

cheers John.
Not a stair lift,  but I would love to include a cable  car between two parts of the layout  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 22, 2015, 03:59:40 PM
 :scowl: Got a bit of a telling off yesterday from Master Thomas because I hadn't sorted 'his' (?) trains out so had to get about starting to finish off the new lengths of track and electrical wiring out. Managed to link in the rails to the already installed knitting and add a an couple of extra knots etc. Strange as it may seen it appears to be all OK without any shorts (only tested with DC so far but its getting there).Tomorrow I hope to wire the actual point in with its existing surface motor. Once that's done I can run some locos round the full loops again and keep 'Sir' happy :hmmm:
(I might even confuse him  by running a couple of 00-9 locos round the layout) :laugh:
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on June 22, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
Very Good to hear that it is all working out.
Maybe you can publish a couple of pics of locos in action tomorrow ?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 23, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Very Good to hear that it is all working out.
Maybe you can publish a couple of pics of locos in action tomorrow ?
Alas the rest of this weeks messed up an unexpected panic attack this morning  :(, a medical visit tomorrow, and a doctors consultation on Thursday.

The new bit of linked up track still looks like a  bomb site with wires and cut out bits of track everywhere.
  The actual points need wiring back to the control panel  :doh: before I can really wave the camera near the layout again 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on June 25, 2015, 04:19:30 PM
I must say that the point wiring is out of my comfort zone because the wires a so very fine even for me.
Will be seeking ways of stripping back the insulation and tinning then each before soldering them to power wires  :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 09, 2015, 09:30:48 AM
Long time since heat and health have let me add or even do anything to Ruleoneshire but yesterday  the latest dose of steroids started to kick in and I ventured into the train room.
1st thing I must do is power up the new set of points.
Easyt you say but roco wire coding matches no others that I use so ages was spent running the 3 wires in and trying to math colours. .........Easy in the end after checking continuity and  working out exactly what I am working with. Next came power requirement. The finest of the wire got me worrying about hitting it through a CDU although everything tells me that's the right way to do it (Google eventually  showed me that it does actually require a 12-24 volt hit via a CDU) so by tonight :-\ I should have a powered working points unit  or a big blackened area of burnt baseboard  :'(
T`is good to be modelling again tho
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 09, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
Hope it all goes well. Glad to read you're back to railway modelling.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on July 09, 2015, 10:28:07 AM
Glad you've been able to make a tentative return to the train room.
Hope your health is now on the up.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 09, 2015, 10:32:41 AM
Glad you're easing yourself 'back into the groove', Jon, and hope we don't hear of any blackened areas.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 09, 2015, 04:36:25 PM
Its got `OT in the train room so Ive not got as far as I had hoped but One end of the point wiring is soldered up which included stripping and soldering some far finer than ive ever worked on before. It also meant that at last I was able to use a chrissy present that Mrs JC gave me last year. Its the best soldering iron Ive ever owned/used and is the
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/60w-professional-lcd-solder-station-with-esd-protection-a55kj (http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/60w-professional-lcd-solder-station-with-esd-protection-a55kj)
There is one snag I found and that is the hot end of the wand shakes about a heck of a lot (honest its not my wrist fingers shaking  :-\ ) but I got the one end soldered and heat shrunk just needs a dollop of hot glue to hold the wires in place.
The start of some extra shelving put up ready to hold boxes of locos somewhere handy to save reaching across the rear of the layout or being piler up in a heap between rails so the days not been to bad (so  far)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 09, 2015, 05:05:59 PM
or being poiler up in a heap between rails so the days not been to bad (so  far)

Poiler ???
Is your predictive text having a bad day, Jon? :confused2:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: keerout on July 09, 2015, 05:07:55 PM
Hi Jon, You can exchange the bits, so maybe the one that's in, is not seated well, or not tight enough.... (try only when COLD)  :D
Stay cool,
Gerard  :wave:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 09, 2015, 07:16:38 PM
or being poiler up in a heap between rails so the days not been to bad (so  far)

Poiler ???
Is your predictive text having a bad day, Jon? :confused2:
Well spotted young (ish) gent. I wondered who would notice it first,. Someone ought to award you a thank you
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 09, 2015, 09:17:07 PM
or being poiler up in a heap between rails so the days not been to bad (so  far)

Poiler ???
Is your predictive text having a bad day, Jon? :confused2:
Well spotted young (ish) gent. I wondered who would notice it first,. Someone ought to award you a thank you

There are no young(ish) people living here let alone any gents :no:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 10, 2015, 07:26:31 PM
Finished cobbling up the wiring at the one end and set about the control panel end today :goggleeyes: quite a conglomeration of colour codings and few spaces to wire in yet another  'jc' personal coded area of knitting. Cut into sections of the existing loom and set about making extra access points into it. OK I dont work fast and electrics are basically nogo areas for me but after a couple of hours I had a spiders web that looked as  it if might work  :worried:
With all the existing odds and sods back in action the time came to see if I could cause the semi expected sooty black mess where I had cobbled in the new points.
I through the  switch but didn't hear a sound the clunk as the CDU unit fired made not a sound so I set the switch to the other side... >:(......nothing so I checked the wires at the point end again
Now I  swear I hadn't heard a sound but the CDU had actually fired the points :goggleeyes: and in the right direction.
Tomorrows got to be tidy up/check track power, and run round with a finishing hot glue gun and maybe.......just maybe run some trains over the weekend :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on July 10, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
Lets hope it all works for you. Fingers are crossed.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 10, 2015, 08:25:43 PM

Now I  swear I hadn't heard a sound but the CDU had actually fired the points :goggleeyes: and in the right direction.


That's 'cos you had your fingers in your ears waiting for the BANG when you threw the switch :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 11, 2015, 09:42:12 AM

Now I  swear I hadn't heard a sound but the CDU had actually fired the points :goggleeyes: and in the right direction.


That's 'cos you had your fingers in your ears waiting for the BANG when you threw the switch :laugh:
:thumbsup: true very true but I also didn't want to hear Mrs JC let fly at me as the power trip blew :-X
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 11, 2015, 11:55:20 AM
...............and so this morning Ive been handed a piece of conti board.....an electric drill..........a saw and a few dimensions and been told that a wall shelf is needed urgently  :( .........so layouts on hold again  :-X

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on July 11, 2015, 01:03:37 PM
Ah, I see, you've been asked to build a shelf to accommodate a siding or two from your railway.
 Great idea. :doh: ???
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on July 11, 2015, 05:47:26 PM
Perhaps Mrs. JC wants an end to end in the kitchen to transport ingredients to a central point. It puts a new meaning on "meals on wheels" :food:  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 12, 2015, 09:25:24 AM
Ah, I see, you've been asked to build a shelf to accommodate a siding or two from your railway.
 Great idea. :doh: ???
:laugh: I wish but it has given me a glimmer of an idea for future storage of boxed locos  :confused1:
I`m informed that MR Thomas is coming today for a prolonged visit and expects to see some trains running.  :worried:
Ruleoneshire has now become triple gauged ! ::)
That's 1/148th  1/160th and on occasions 1/87 narrow gauge but the latter will only run on 'fun' days and with very limited stock
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 12, 2015, 03:32:40 PM
 :claphappy: An hour and a half train running with all gauges explo tested. The new point still needs some straightening on entry and leaving so  a bit of extra works required and an extra power feed in one area.
It meant we could only pla run an out and back 4.5metre track but the only loco that took violent objection to me track laying is my 'new' class 66 freightliner (by non runner I mean unable to negotiate the tight curves.it runs fine on the straights) which I had a feeling from the word go was going to be a non runner (it will end up in the N`porium or on eBay  as soon as I can get round to it.
The 00-9 locos look like they will have a novelty future and behaved very well. as did the GWR Farish autocoach although I need to fit slightly lnger couplings to 1 end
I even managed under duress  to get a very much shortened Arnold Brighton Belle running which it seems be the highlight for everybody and as the room was getting a tad hot we retreated to the cooler rooms for chat and dwinkies.
Success rating 7-10 with 9-10 for effort  :claphappy: :claphappy:
edit...
With the house back to some degree of order (apart from the train room) Ive set about a list of problems that befell todays running (s). One fault I cannot understand id that upon inspection tonight there were odd scraps of wire,track nails,blocks of metal to hold down drying glue sections and tweezers laid across the track in random places but the locos still ran even if somewhat spasmodically  :hmmm:
Tomorrow the full size vacuum cleaner has an airing
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 14, 2015, 04:22:24 PM
 :o Its taken me till now to sort out a metre of track.... not new track but bits and bobs to align the outer track so that it has several straight sections before it enters a new point.
Last problems to overcome were cutting in a Fleishchmann 9110 adjustable track to compensate for a small difference in track length (well over a days swearing and fiddling  :-[ and 2 rail joiner thumbs to prove it)
A heavy blast with my aerosol of compressed air and all looked and felt fine. ........
wrong a mega short circuit now appears  :worried: :doh: finally sorted out after much investigation.............  :-[ I  had stood the air can on the rails....its made of metal. Guess what was shorting the track out.
At least all that I coupled up so far now works and takes my railcoach right round the re-worked track (even at crawler speed tomorrow I`ll run my 08 shunter round and see if that's ok with its short wheelbase
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 15, 2015, 04:27:23 PM
 :thumbsup: At last Ive been able to sit memorised as a  small variety of locos have trundled past my eyes towing a track cleaning wagon round the whole layout including  the curved set of points that's frustrated me for so long.
When Thomas comes over again the only non working area will be the new spur onto the turntable and that should be fairly straightforward now  :worried: but I think I need a couple of days rest to get over the nightmare job that  this small modification has generated
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2015, 04:30:48 PM
Sounds like 'mission accomplished', Jon.
Nice one :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 15, 2015, 04:41:46 PM
Many congratulations, Jon. Well worth all the hard work.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 15, 2015, 04:42:47 PM
Sounds like 'mission accomplished', Jon.
Nice one :thumbsup:
Someone muttered in the background.............."it cant be done and wont work even if it did''
That was the only spur to success I needed
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on July 15, 2015, 08:14:06 PM
Certainly good news.
Enjoy watching your trains :drool:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2015, 09:33:04 AM
 :whiteflag: :whiteflag:
OK  OK :-[  `They' said it wouldn`t work and it didn't
Actually that's not quite true I ran every wheel configuration through the junction that I own. That 0-6-0 right up to BO BO and everything negotiated the new bit apart from the BO-BOs in one direction. As its the main direction of travel the whole things turned out to be a failure. I mean I cant even run coaches through it  >:( Demolition squad is on standby and a variety of points that I know will (90% certain) will work. :worried: 
 :whiteflag: :whiteflag:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 17, 2015, 09:51:56 AM
Oh  :censored:

Sorry to hear that, Jon, but I just know your perseverance will pay off.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 17, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
This morning was demolition time having first laid out the new route with actual track and set of 00-9 points.
The points took a giant step to the right and fresh semiflexable track was cut and laid in place.
 :veryangry: Why I didn't plan it this way 1st time is anybody's guess but its now worked out with common sense and strong language
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 19, 2015, 02:57:17 PM
2 days furterling and I`m further advanced than before I started ripping stuff up.
At least now I can run trains (yes trains.. not just locos) round the outer loop. I hate using Peco surface points but to use slow mowing points  would mean just to much work. Ive noticed today that many of the slow movers arnt making good contact and need a good clean out, but that's no major problem. So far Ive tended to `pull` coaches round the new section but even pushing  several through seems ok.
theres still the side track to the turntable to link up but that take locos etc as far as its connected. I think theres just a fairly straight 6" length  connect in an that will only have to cope with locos  :thumbsup:
Need to give the Hornby/Arnold Brighton B. a run around as a final test cause if that dosnt work  I  envisage a mega binning job for the layout
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 19, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
Glad to hear of your successes, Jon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 23, 2015, 11:24:49 AM
Decided to finish the new tracked area off yesterday as theres just the hook up line to the turntable left to finish off.
Didn't get very far but its all well on its way.
Staying clear of the layout room today because its visit GP day again   :worried: just to update hers and my records and see if theres anything new to try  :worried: that might improve matters............................or indeed to see if Ive died yet  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on July 23, 2015, 12:44:19 PM
Yeah, best not to put your blood pressure up just before you see the doc Jon  :D
My layout was supposed to be my relaxation therapy, but I'm sure it's just wound me up more!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: paulprice on July 23, 2015, 01:56:45 PM
Good luck with your visit today, I know its not easy keeping your blood pressure down
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 23, 2015, 04:23:45 PM
 :confused1: Well I`m still alive they think  :-\ but Ive got a changed menu to try out. I`ll soon have enough ex-inhalers to start a chemists (1-1 scale) but its good to ring the changes I`m told  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 23, 2015, 08:41:38 PM
:confused1: Well I`m still alive they think  :-\

Glad to hear it, Jon :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on July 23, 2015, 08:45:20 PM
Glad you are still very much with us.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on July 24, 2015, 07:18:33 AM
Well done that bloke!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 27, 2015, 03:37:24 PM
Sorted :thumbsup: and it all works at last. Some of the points need a tweek and a da.. good clean but locos run on what I think I will call it 'nightmare junction' ::)
Now Ive just got to tidy up the wiring
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 27, 2015, 03:43:52 PM

Now Ive just got to tidy up the wiring

Go careful with that bit, Jon. We still want to hear trains are running OK after the tidy up :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on July 27, 2015, 06:34:19 PM
With my memory, if I tidy things up I can't remember where I've put them :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 28, 2015, 03:44:24 PM
 :'( :veryangry: Decided to do some rail cleaning before the tidy up starts  :'(
Theres a  :censored: short somewhere. Not even where Ive been working but a  :censored: short somewhere on the layout.
45+ minutes later I found it :claphappy: Eldest son was looking at the layout over the weekend and picked up a key ring spirit level that was relaxing at the top of the incline so that in time I can check out the gradient .  The kind :o lad had put it back having looked at it and carefully laid the key ring part neatly across the incline rails.
 :censored: :veryangry: :censored: I was not amused  >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on July 28, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
Take consolation the short was not of your own making, Jon.
Annoying, yes, but not caused by you.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on July 28, 2015, 10:43:17 PM
Is eldest son still breathing?  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 29, 2015, 09:48:41 AM
Is eldest son still breathing?  :smiley-laughing:
:hmmm: maybe  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 30, 2015, 11:28:51 AM
Time to lengthen a few sidings if I can. There is room at the moment to extend a few and not overcrowd the layout to much. Ive got the track in stock so in some ways its going to cost me nothing.
 Might even have to run a few bits of stock along them. I believe that Ive yet to run my Jinty in before chipping it  ;).
In between whiles whilst theres a warmish breeze I must get outside and spray some bits and pieces.
Im guessing that Saturday is going to be a non modelling day as its our wedding anniversary again  :o
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on July 30, 2015, 05:47:02 PM
It's ours on Sunday, so no modeling that day too. 46 years of?..............., well 46 years :heart: :heart2:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on July 30, 2015, 05:57:25 PM
It's ours on Sunday, so no modeling that day too. 46 years of?..............., well 46 years :heart: :heart2:
Oh you should be used to being married by now then  :thumbsup:
Ive only been married for 41 years on Saturday (and its still my 1st time ;) )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on July 30, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
I've tried trading in SWMBO but no takers, even with a cash offer :D
So I reckon I'm lumbered now and a bit late in life to change. She's been my girlfriend, lover and wife for 55 years. I wouldn't swap her for anything. :angel:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 02, 2015, 09:37:26 AM
With 'nightmare corner' sorted out and stock running through it in all directions I ran a few locos around the layout to check things over. A couple of the lighter weight wagons 'bounced' and derailed going over some points that have existed for many months. Examining them closely showed no problems and I know that the B2B is acceptable.
It was only when I ran my fingers across the areas that I found a minute step at the joints. Each was correctly fish plated but the step was there none the less.
Now all the points are Peco streamline so theres no mismatch there  but Im guessing I going to have to skim the railtops and then burnish them back to a polished finish   :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 02, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
If the problem only exists with a couple of wagons then I would suggest just adding some weight to them, Jon.
I'm not in favour of filing track as it gives crud a helping hand to stick to railheads.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 02, 2015, 10:49:12 AM
If the problem only exists with a couple of wagons then I would suggest just adding some weight to them, Jon.
I'm not in favour of filing track as it gives crud a helping hand to stick to railheads.
Understood NPN and I agree in general. I am lucky though as I can burnish any file marks out and return them to a good degree of smoothness. I already have some lead weights to apply to lightweights before I go that far though
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 02, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
Ive ended up using the Tomix angle grinder on the iffy bitsbut not with the motor spinning. It was dragged round by my Minitrix Crocodile which can tow just about anything asked of it. There were certainly some high points in places but now they are identified I will work on each one individually. I really must get the croc. chipped if possible (more info about that fairly shortly )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 07, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
 :( :doh: Its Friday and Ive just been informed that the Inspector of Railways (Mr Thomas ) himself is  coming over to lunch etc. on Sunday and expects to see the trains running.
Just when I had decided that evolution requires certain track improvements to take place  :worried:.
Seem that any improvements will have to exist purely on Anyrail  and the wreckers/track specialists will have to be on standby till after he has gone home
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on August 07, 2015, 11:02:02 AM
Never mind, Jon. You'll catch up, eventually.  :D

Anyway, it's nice to be needed!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 07, 2015, 11:28:33 AM
You will probably have come up with another track plan by Sunday evening Jon  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 07, 2015, 11:48:00 AM
You will probably have come up with another track plan by Sunday evening Jon  :D
The basic plan will remain. Its purely evolution taking its toll   :doh:
I blame that Charles Darwin for discovering evolution in the 1st place  >:( and of course Asaac Newton for introducing gravity to cause locos and stuff to fall over or derail
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on August 07, 2015, 10:02:37 PM
Could you sprinkle some tea leaves on the track and curtail services. There's a prototype for everything! :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on August 08, 2015, 08:43:29 AM
You will probably have come up with another track plan by Sunday evening Jon  :D
The basic plan will remain. Its purely evolution taking its toll   :doh:
I blame that Charles Darwin for discovering evolution in the 1st place  >:( and of course Asaac Newton for introducing gravity to cause locos and stuff to fall over or derail

Doubt if either of those new fangled ideas will last! I'm just gonna wait them both out.  8)

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 08, 2015, 09:46:03 AM
 :thumbsup: When I first decided that Ruleoneshire would be DCC  I searched around and bought a Bachmann 82051 Spectrum(R) Diesel GE 70-Ton Switcher - DCC Equipped from Osbornes as a trial loco. It got stored away in a box and never even run via DC.
Knowing my luck I dug it out and ran it yesterday via DC just to see if its small diameter wheels would cope with my low quality track laying. I didn't clean it or the track, didnt lubricate it, didn't check the back to back, etc. etc.  Just plonked it on the track and it ran perfectly, negotiated every point and twist and turn without failing once.
Maybe I`ll send it off via DCC later today ::).
Having abandoned the test/ running in track that I had I decided to run a single length of 009 track up the side of where the station is going and call it a museum track for OAP locos etc. In fact it is being wired in a programing track for all  :-\ my DCC stock.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 09, 2015, 04:40:24 PM
 :confused1: A confusing running session with a variety of locos (mainly all behaving themselves) and 2 grandchildren egging my efforts on. Emily, Toms younger sister (2.5yrs old) decided to watch grumpy grampys trains with big brother. About 10 minutes later the trainroom was enriched with the fragrant odour of what young children are famous for :'(
Fortunatly after a few minutes a firm asked if they could call and quote for my flashing damaged chimney. That was followed by the younger generation going home and me indulging in a well earned rest  :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 09, 2015, 07:05:32 PM
A good day was had by all then  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on August 09, 2015, 09:09:59 PM
I think there was a bit of relief all round :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 09, 2015, 09:30:59 PM
On that subject, one of our club exhibition layout has a sewage farm in one corner.
I suggested that they install scentsaround smellyvision  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 09, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
About 10 minutes later the trainroom was enriched with the fragrant odour of what young children are famous for :'(
Fortunatly after a few minutes a firm asked if they could call and quote for my flashing damaged chimney.

Must have been extremely potent if the aroma reached the firm within a few minutes, and if it has that effect on mortar I'd better get myself a cork :worried: :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 18, 2015, 03:58:44 PM
 :goggleeyes: Been a bit side  tracked last week and this because on my 70th. birthday last week My wife kindly gave me
 http://www.modellbau-metallbaukasten.de/index.php/en/solar-models/ferris-wheel-solar-powered (http://www.modellbau-metallbaukasten.de/index.php/en/solar-models/ferris-wheel-solar-powered)
to give me an alternative to 'play' with. As its got 1042 bits it may take me a while and look slightly oversized for my layout when its finished
Made in China with Mecano style parts and German instructions (pictures only, no text) I think it will keep me busy till Christmas time :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on August 18, 2015, 04:06:14 PM
Belated Birthday Greetings!  :beers:

Hope you have a lot of (alternatve) fun building that humongous wheel!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 18, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
1042 pieces! :o
Are we talking Christmas this year or next year, Jon? :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 18, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
1042 pieces! :o
Are we talking Christmas this year or next year, Jon? :laugh:
Not sure yet. :hmmm: When you realise there are 300+ bolts and nuts included in that number it dosnt seem quite as bad :-\
It still looks great pile of 'bits' to sort out  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 18, 2015, 05:10:41 PM
Many happy returns, John.  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on August 18, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
 Belated

(http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/mother_goose/MG_123.gif)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 18, 2015, 06:52:53 PM
Happy Birthday Jon - you are now officially a crumbly  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on August 18, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
Happy Birthday John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on August 18, 2015, 08:56:18 PM
And happy birthday from me.
Looking at the video of the ferris wheel I think it revolves at more than a realistic speed :sick2:
I think a quick fiddle with the gearing might be in order :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 27, 2015, 10:59:18 AM
 :( Took a few days off modelling and got on with a few other mundane thingies.
 :thumbsup:
Spirits back in force following an email and video link from Douglas of Wickness  of my Minitrix Croc` that he has converted to DCC for me.
A lovely job and a U Tube link to show me the results of his work
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0TfuoDeX1M&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 27, 2015, 02:09:35 PM
Thanks for the video link. A very nice model; I remember the real things running in the 1970s. Douglas, at Wickness, always does an excellent job.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 27, 2015, 07:58:12 PM
Hmmmm I think I might be sending some of mine to Douglas to be REchipped  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 28, 2015, 10:01:26 AM
Hmmmm I think I might be sending some of mine to Douglas to be REchipped  :(
Douglas was quite open from the start and admitted that he hadnt done an N gauge one before but offered do look at it and see if he could do anything with it. I was thrilled with the results :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 28, 2015, 11:42:15 AM
Do you mesan an N gauge one of that particular engine Jon?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 28, 2015, 02:25:58 PM
Do you mesan an N gauge one of that particular engine Jon?
    Correct.
 He does many N gauge locos regularly but this was the 1st N gauge Croc he had done
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 29, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
:claphappy:  .................  and as expected it came out of its postal wrapping and straight onto my layout.
A quick check of the DCC settings and away it went as good as anything else I run, if not better  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on August 29, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
I think I may have to send him my class 04. I bought it brand new, had it converted locally, and have never been happy with it.....
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on August 29, 2015, 11:00:59 PM
It's worth the expense, Mike, to have a loco. that runs smoothly and, especially a shunter, slowly.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 30, 2015, 09:56:42 AM
 :doh: Inspector Thomas is coming over for lunch and a 'train running session' today so a big tidy up and rail cleaning is the order of the day with both DCC and DC running sessions  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on August 30, 2015, 09:08:52 PM
Oh dear! :uneasy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 31, 2015, 11:09:34 AM
 :-[ Of course  I wanted to show my 'Croc' off  under DCC  so set it all up prior to Sir arriving. He hasn't seen DCC running in the past and wondered what my new gizmo did. Programmed the loco to run round the outer loop and ............. nothing :doh:. Tried another loco ................ nothing :worried: :doh:
Decided to go back to DC and everything worked ok  :thumbsup:
After a while it dawned on thicko me and  I unplugged the DC lead from the power bus and plugged in the DCC connection.......... Bingo :-[, so much fun was then had running the loco(s)  back and forth untll one area was reached and all  rail contact was lost.
Guess/know my next job is to rip up  1 length of Peco flexi and replace with Fleischmann semi flexi
Ive been banned from doing that till after Miss Emily (2 and a half years old)) come over later today to see the choo choos but she is at east not so demanding as brother Thomas
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on August 31, 2015, 03:44:45 PM
Sounds like a good time was had by all, Jon.  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on August 31, 2015, 04:14:20 PM

Guess/know my next job is to rip up  1 length of Peco flexi and replace with Fleischmann semi flexi
Ive been banned from doing that till after Miss Emily (2 and a half years old)) come over later today to see the choo choos but she is at east not so demanding as brother Thomas
???  Nothing but tidy and spruce up a few areas of track this morning ready for little missy who just wasn't interested in anything train related today  :doh: :hmmm: So track ripping started and another non train running session commencing
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on August 31, 2015, 09:21:43 PM
Bit confused as to why a section of Fleischmann track would work better than Peco unless it's summat to do with the rail joiners :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 01, 2015, 10:06:22 AM
Bit confused as to why a section of Fleischmann track would work better than Peco unless it's summat to do with the rail joiners :confused1:
The peco track seemed to kink instead of flex a fraction vertically (which I know the  Fleischmann doesn't ) and the slight difference in overall length places the joints in more favourable positions

( In time I anticipate replacing all Peco track with Fleischmann track )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 01, 2015, 04:10:09 PM
Rip up time well underway and fault found was as I  expected :doh: one rail went straight across the problem area and the left one dipped quite considerably (once you checked the levels)
All that's needed is a fresh plywood base instead of a thin balsa one and with new track laid over it it should be but  I`ll make a major job of it and sort the whole area out.......points/wiring and all  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on September 02, 2015, 10:21:53 AM
My next layout will be Kato track Jon, I'm fed up with Peco  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 02, 2015, 11:00:34 AM
I must admit to going right off Peco a year so so ago but have 'struggle' on with it and its points  since then.
Kato reminds me of  Hornby 00 back in the 3 rail 1950/60s. I do have a few bits it but am less than impressed with its looks/  track selection selection
Knowing Fleischmans  turntable and running stock + the fairly discrete  surface motors I am prepared to give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on September 02, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
My next layout will be Kato track Jon, I'm fed up with Peco  :(

I use KATO all the time with chamfered cork strip along side the track I think it looks really effective
Graham
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 06, 2015, 04:34:53 PM
Managed yesterday and today to start relaying the track and adjust the height of the raised section so as is far less likely to 'kink' and derail all/any locos. Tomorrow with luck I hope to test the new section but as In  but as Im  gluing  in as I go its a long process :hmmm:
May actually be able to glue another 3" before supper  if Im lucky ............... if the previous glue is still drying out  everything will wait till tomorrow
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on September 06, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
Good luck with that John!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 06, 2015, 04:56:50 PM
Good luck with that John!
Seconded.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 09, 2015, 10:02:01 AM
Decided to take a day off yesterday
1 to get used to new inhaler
2 check out which radius I really need to use and see what I am at present using.
Turns out that I can use 18" sweeping curves and not 15" as I thought would be correct.
Glued half a 'semi flex' length of track down now and it looks far better than anything that was there before. :) so just 1.5 lengths left to install and glue down today/tommorow
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on September 09, 2015, 11:12:47 AM
Good progress, Jon. :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on September 09, 2015, 11:31:26 PM
I see you are struggling a bit Jon, I know the feeling thats why I ripped up my layout. What glue are you using to lay the track, I use copydex and that drys fairly quick, and it's good for pulling up too without much trouble ( a sharp thin blade)and that includes a layer of cork.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on September 10, 2015, 06:39:34 AM
I see you are struggling a bit Jon, I know the feeling thats why I ripped up my layout. What glue are you using to lay the track, I use copydex and that drys fairly quick, and it's good for pulling up too without much trouble ( a sharp thin blade)and that includes a layer of cork.

My choice, too. Copydex may be a bit expensive compared to PVA but as Chris says, it cures quickly and comes up easily when you can often re-use the track after an quick clean up.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 10, 2015, 09:50:03 AM
Thanks guys .
Im stuck in the rut of always using white wood glue which I  dilute a fraction and add a magic drop of washing up liquid ;).
Doing it this way means I can take multitude of coffee breaks and rests for my breathing problems  ;)
I did use copydex in years gone by it aggravated breathing problems even back then so steered away from it.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: paulprice on September 10, 2015, 10:20:43 AM
I sometimes use a product called Cascamite, its a powdered glue, I mix it with the ballast, then just apply water and a drop of wasinng up liquid to fix the ballast once I have it in position
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 10, 2015, 10:54:56 AM
I sometimes use a product called Cascamite, its a powdered glue, I mix it with the ballast, then just apply water and a drop of wasinng up liquid to fix the ballast once I have it in position
:o wow. Ive not heard that name  since I built my 1st canoe back when I was 14  :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on September 10, 2015, 11:06:05 AM
I see you are struggling a bit Jon, I know the feeling thats why I ripped up my layout. What glue are you using to lay the track, I use copydex and that drys fairly quick, and it's good for pulling up too without much trouble ( a sharp thin blade)and that includes a layer of cork.
My choice, too. Copydex may be a bit expensive compared to PVA but as Chris says, it cures quickly and comes up easily when you can often re-use the track after an quick clean up.
Dave G
I too use Copydex. Easy to use and , of course, it's readily available.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 10, 2015, 11:16:41 AM
Todays 'glue and progress' is being interrupted to go on our annual drag racing trip to Greenham Common where I shall check my mobility scooter out to near its limits along the disused perimeter tracks and wife and son pick bushels   of   ::) glow in the dark blackberries  :laugh: to make jam and jelly from
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 11, 2015, 11:27:09 AM
Most ripe blackberries already stolen by other jam/ jelly makers so apart from a good trip out not much else was achieved.
In the vastness of the old jumble of the old aerodrome a middle aged lady ands her son(?) passed us at some speed and asked if we had spotted any cows  :-\
We did point out that we had seen many many  patches of cow  :poop: and advised her to follow the :poop: which should lead then to their quarry (they did not seem amused) but set off the the advised direction
I suspect the pickers gathered about a kilo of blackberries whilst I sat on my buggy and watched them.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 11, 2015, 11:34:31 AM
This afternoon I  might  get round to hooking up a couple of  replacement droppers and even run a loco (or 6) as a test--starting with DC and then progressing to DCC before moving to the opposite end of the replacement area and starting to lay that end round to join up and completeting the full circuit again
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on September 11, 2015, 04:40:18 PM
completeting the full circuit again

Will that be the lap og honour?  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 12, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
completeting the full circuit again

Will that be the lap og honour?  :D
Probably quite a few till I am satisfied that everything is working as I want it  :worried: in the meantime work progresses very slowly but defiantly forward .
I even spotted an outward leaning chamber in one area and even though a minute amount soon corrected it before it showed up and started throwing locos off the track
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 15, 2015, 04:43:45 PM
All work now on hold  :(
Tools and stock scattered in deepest dark corners until various things are resolved  .  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 15, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
Sorry to read that. I hope that various things are resolved as soon as possible, then.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on September 15, 2015, 09:49:05 PM
Chin up Jon, we decrepit old gits have to soldier on.....
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on September 16, 2015, 07:44:16 AM
Keep going Jon.
Things will be on the up again soon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: paulprice on September 16, 2015, 10:19:48 AM
Just remember my golden rule, no matter how well things go or how badly they go, BLOW LIFE A RASPBERRY  :P
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on September 16, 2015, 08:54:51 PM
Just remember my golden rule, no matter how well things go or how badly they go, BLOW LIFE A RASPBERRY  :P

+1 to that. Tomorrow will be better :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 18, 2015, 11:22:11 AM
Just remember my golden rule, no matter how well things go or how badly they go, BLOW LIFE A RASPBERRY  :P
:uneasy: Agreed I usually do and it has the advantage of clearing any room I`m in at the time  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 18, 2015, 11:28:44 AM
At your age, Jon, beware the follow through :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on September 18, 2015, 09:03:45 PM
At your age, Jon, beware the follow through :worried:

My neice when she was very young called them "bottie noises". She's an adult now and calls them something else :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: paulprice on September 18, 2015, 09:12:53 PM
At your age, Jon, beware the follow through :worried:

Trouser burps
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 19, 2015, 03:11:20 PM
Today I got enough enthusiasm to wander into the train room and weigh up a few options.
The biggest eyesore is a large falling apart hoard of general purpose DIY tools and offcuts of wood so I just ordered 2  32 litre tubs/boxes to transfer the contents into minus the rubbish..
AT one point last week my Noch preformed Z gauge layout was bagged up and taken up the workshop but will come back nearer Xmas and be sold on line
The door planning testing layout was also "dumped" in the workshop
That just leaves "Ruleoneshire" and loads of sons stuff he`s brought over whilst he contemplates his long-term  future  :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on September 19, 2015, 05:30:43 PM
Best of luck with everything, Jon.  :beers:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: paulprice on September 19, 2015, 06:11:51 PM
Family's cant live with them and its frowned upon if you kill them  :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on September 19, 2015, 08:48:05 PM
I hope you're charging him storage and that he realizes the inconvenience he's causing after you've had a serious clear out of the most important room in the house. :)
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 23, 2015, 04:18:45 PM
Actually laid some cork on thin plywood sheets today and have clamped the bits down on several pieces of pre cut ply curves. With luck  :worried: can slide them under the already laid inclined track ,glue the underlay to the prelaid track and then slide supports under the completed incline  :-\
Well that's the theory  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on September 23, 2015, 06:40:06 PM
The jonclox theory of probability possibility :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 24, 2015, 10:00:40 AM
The jonclox theory of probability possibility :D
Also known as a pie in the sky idea  :-\ but it might work
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 24, 2015, 04:19:14 PM
The jonclox theory of probability possibility :D
Also known as a pie in the sky idea  :-\ but it might work
Now I didn't think that the above idea would really work I wasn't at all surprised to find that I was wrong and a 3"-4" test section was held up under the track and once satisfied that it was in the right positionand well supported in position I used some fairly dilute PVA mix to see if it could work
To prove my recent failure rate I looks fine and is gluing down very nicely   :angel: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Tomorrow will show if its worked and another section attempted  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on September 24, 2015, 09:20:36 PM
Here's hoping then Jon  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 25, 2015, 03:59:13 PM
 ::) ::) What a day? Been a bit like Christmas here today.
Postie delivered a bundle of odds and sods
Messers Yodal delivered a 32 litre storage container and now
 Another  white van man has just turned up with my lightweight base board
MR UPS dropped in a Gaugemasters order
My wonderful SWMBO is fed up with taking parcels in and trying to find homes for everything  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on September 25, 2015, 04:45:38 PM
Are you sure it's not your birthday ?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on September 25, 2015, 09:08:41 PM
Perhaps a "Royal" birthday? :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on September 25, 2015, 09:35:29 PM
I've a good idea as to where you could store your deliveries, Jon, but I'm not sure your son would like it >:D :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on September 26, 2015, 09:59:09 AM
Are you sure it's not your birthday ?
Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllll I had my birthday back in August but if I get deliveries like yesterday I am more than happy to accept and 'Royal Birthday' and any presies you may like to send me  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 07, 2015, 04:11:31 PM
Minute progress being made but a lot of its buying Plastic storage boxes (34 litres) each to store useful 'bits' in Yeah I know that 34 litres is big but I somehow manage to fill them with kits, part built and not started and even finished ones
Latest box is overfull with tools, wiring and wood offcuts. 2 more scheduled to arrive at the weekend.
Of course the 1st of 3....... maybe........ 4 lightweight boards are progressing along side all the mayhem  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 13, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
There must be a glimmer of hope for me today. ::)
I had the desire to do some work to the layout  :doh: Theres still a fair amount of relaying the 'iffy' section but Ive just prepared the track bed and sorted out my next few moves. Looked t some of my motley assorted running stock and compared weights of various assorted carriages. I now understand why some bounce off the track at the sheer hint of problem whilst others run sweet and true over the same area.
There must be a weight that makes train make pulling balance right whilst not causing to much drag on the locos .
To that end Ive just ordered a small post packet weighing set of scales to bring all stock to the best compromise   :hmmm: or at least  get them all close to the desired level, add that too slowly changing some of the couplings to a more universal state (NEM sockets) and every thing stands a better  chance of good running
......well that's the theory  :worried: :confused1: 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on October 13, 2015, 05:28:43 PM
This might be helpful. Remember the weights are American. http://www.nmra.org/car-weight (http://www.nmra.org/car-weight)
Glad you're feeling up to doing more.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on October 13, 2015, 05:39:53 PM
This might be useful too!http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-GAUGE-SET-OF-10-WAGON-TRACK-WEIGHTS-/281824071960?hash=item419e061118 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-GAUGE-SET-OF-10-WAGON-TRACK-WEIGHTS-/281824071960?hash=item419e061118)
Cheers.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on October 13, 2015, 08:20:13 PM
In my carriage stock of maybe 100+ items I have a right old mish mash of Farish China/Farish Poole/Dapol/Minitrix and Lima and don't find anything derails or bounces off the track :no:
Some items are definitely lighter in weight than others, but if anything derails I'd suggest looking to see if the axles are seated in their boxes correctly (i.e. not wonky) and that the wheels spin easily when turned by hand.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 14, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
In my carriage stock of maybe 100+ items I have a right old mish mash of Farish China/Farish Poole/Dapol/Minitrix and Lima and don't find anything derails or bounces off the track :no:
Some items are definitely lighter in weight than others, but if anything derails I'd suggest looking to see if the axles are seated in their boxes correctly (i.e. not wonky) and that the wheels spin easily when turned by hand.
It must be remembered here that Ive run little or no 'trains' as opposed to test engines since I started the layout close on 3 years ago so I may somehow got a bee in my bonnet about bad haulage etc. I just think that a thorough service/overhaul of my rolling stock would be a good idea. I know that make 1 farish carriages and I have never had a happy partnership. In the distant past its always been..... '' open the box take the carriage out...bin the box and run the carriage, warts and all :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 16, 2015, 11:36:30 AM
Following all my mutterings about weight I received a pre owned Fleischmann tanker yesterday from Osborns........... just what I want for my upcoming light weight board  and the weight seems perfect. I cant see any signs of extra weight being installed but I shall test it out and if satisfactory be using its weight as a standard for most of my stock. In the meantime Ive just managed and glued down about half of the remaining track  to complete the circuit that I replacing  :claphappy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 18, 2015, 10:50:43 AM
Following all my mutterings about weight I received a pre owned Fleischmann tanker yesterday from Osborns........... just what I want for my upcoming light weight board  and the weight seems perfect. I cant see any signs of extra weight being installed but I shall test it out and if satisfactory be using its weight as a standard for most of my stock. In the meantime Ive just managed and glued down about half of the remaining track  to complete the circuit that I replacing 
And that's still where I am. Yesterday youngest son looked in for a rest before heading home from work.   >:( and snored for about 5 hours by which time  I had other things on my braincell but today he has gone straight home so there may be some progress from me even if its only trying to move 2 curves into such a situation where they can join up
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 18, 2015, 04:13:07 PM
Very nearly got it all together but have been forcefully reminded what  railjoiners fingers feel like  :veryangry: :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on October 18, 2015, 08:43:30 PM
Oh yes, been there, done that  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 20, 2015, 09:40:33 AM
 :veryangry: :censored: The 2 sweeping curves that I spent so much time trying to lay and join up at the ends fail to line up for the final linking joint.
Oh well back to the drawing board  >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 21, 2015, 11:09:43 AM
 :( Struggled yesterday to even out  kinks on the complex curve area and in the end resigned myself to the fact that the only way out is Peco Sicktrack  :doh:
  :idea: :idea:
This morning I suddenly remember that Fleischmann do their own sophisticated (by pecos Standard) fixed curve track so Im just waiting till tomorrow now when G masters tomorrow  deliver an assortment if radius/lengths of that.,
What I don't need/use now will fit into me lightweight modular layout in the future
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 22, 2015, 04:01:42 PM
The jigsaw box of the new curves from G Masters has arrived today but  2 trips out (one to B&Q) are taking their toll and I feel like  :poop: Today :(
Cant focus on anything and totally frustrated so taking things easy.
Little 2year old Emily came over this afternoon and I even snapped at her :o poor kid
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on October 22, 2015, 07:39:38 PM
Take a break for a couple of days, Jon. I've had a pretty grim couple of weeks and have decided to watch Chris Tarrant's programme tonight nice and warm in my bed :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: paulprice on October 22, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
tell me about it, I need a good vet
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on October 23, 2015, 07:10:25 AM
Take it easy boys!

Hope to hear that you are both up n at 'em again very soon.

Dave G

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 23, 2015, 07:40:01 AM
Take it easy boys!

Hope to hear that you are both up n at 'em again very soon.

Dave G

Seconded.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: paulprice on October 23, 2015, 09:50:28 AM
Well I have managed another day above ground, so bonus.  Perhaps we should start an "old crocks" thread?  :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 26, 2015, 11:36:14 AM
Well I have managed another day above ground, so bonus.  Perhaps we should start an "old crocks" thread?  :doh:
I think we should not only have an old crocks thread but our own section (forum)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: paulprice on October 26, 2015, 12:08:58 PM
Well I have managed another day above ground, so bonus.  Perhaps we should start an "old crocks" thread?  :doh:
I think we should not only have an old crocks thread but our own section (forum)
I think that would be a good idea, we could call it JURASSIC NARK
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on October 26, 2015, 02:06:53 PM
Well I have managed another day above ground, so bonus.  Perhaps we should start an "old crocks" thread?  :doh:
I think we should not only have an old crocks thread but our own section (forum)
I think that would be a good idea, we could call it JURASSIC NARK

Or Dinosaurs' Detours :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on October 27, 2015, 04:16:34 PM
Interesting  :-\ An hour juggling the order of the Fleischmann curves and anything is now ready to glue down ...........of course Ive just run out of glue :veryangry: but theres only one piece of track ive had to order an extra couple of pieces of  and that should be here mid morning tomorrow with luck.
(Just been informed that Thomas the inspector wants to come over this week some when  :doh: )
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 01, 2015, 11:33:07 AM
Finally managed to get the  :censored: curve sorted out and am ready to run locos along it. The sides still need filling in probably with cork sheeting or thin ply and plaster bandage................................. main thing is to get stock running.
 :doh: :veryangry: mega track clean up needed first and near the end of all the new section Ive found two lengths of Roman or middle aged GF track curves They need instant renewing with  flexi track of the Fleischmann variety  :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 09, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
A nightmare weekend  :censored: full of disasters (Don't ask!) meant no progress with anything since last  Thursday when things started to go wrong (Don't ask! Ive told you once) but I finally got back to sticking cork sides to fill in under the shallow raised track and can see  progress of sorts. A couple of wiring modifications can be made and all is well  :hmmm:
Found by error that Fleischmann do 2 alternative forms of fish plates and the one Im now using is a vast improvement ad easier to link to other makes of track. One of my fingers is highly relieved because over the weekend the other type have produced several red fountains whilst using them. 

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on November 09, 2015, 04:07:30 PM
Can I just ask...........................no, I guess I'd better not.
Hope your 'Fishplate Finger' clears up soon, Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 09, 2015, 04:16:32 PM
Can I just ask...........................no, I guess I'd better not.

A wise decision :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on November 09, 2015, 04:17:55 PM
Now we're all intrigued....but no - I won't ask !
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on November 09, 2015, 05:40:38 PM
I'd love to ask....... but er..........no, I think not :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: lil chris on November 09, 2015, 10:23:24 PM
Know the pain too well myself from those little blighters, and keep at it, I know what you mean you sort one fault and find another. I thought I had sorted my layout then I have a test session and find more faults when I thought all was well. Do Not let it beat you, Mine is not beating me if it does I will throw it out the loft window, lucky it's small.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 13, 2015, 11:24:22 AM
Got as far as using a  pre mixed  tube of pollifilla to cover joins, hollows etc under the long curved area now. Decided that it was worth making a minature Plasicard  trowel to save getting fingers messed up. Ive even got a new A4 sheet of suitable card in stock.....then looked to see if Eblay had any readymade ones .......... Ordered one for 3 as it is cheaper than making one.
Posties just delivered it and it looks just what I need  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 16, 2015, 04:19:47 PM
Didn't really want to even get up this morning let alone do any layout working  but forced myself to and wandered into the train room for a glimpse at how Saterdays filling had dried out.
It had dried out reasonably well but what will the next move in that area do.
!% minutes later thin ply sheeting, and some cobbling together gave me a hint of a back and side scenic area which meant no speed maniac locos coupls go floor bound.
Its going to take days to glue and wait for pieces to harden and dry before more pieces could be added etc but theres no alternative due to the wood glue I use.
[/WRONG!! where has my hot glue gun gone?
4PM I gave up for today, the whole skeletal area is hot glued down and even a girder bridge has been rebuilt and glued in place. Next comes more inner ribs of balsa and then covering.
I sometimes think I`m a genius but I know that in fact I`m not  :( :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on November 16, 2015, 05:33:58 PM
Any pictures Jon ?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on November 16, 2015, 06:09:01 PM
I think what you did was worth getting up for. :thumbsup: :photospleasesign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 17, 2015, 09:58:55 AM
Any pictures Jon ?
Sorry no but I`ll order a new set of batteries today and some spray bridge paint
(in the meantimer I beg my son to take a couple of quickies)
Midday update....Just been in and had a look  :confused2: it looks a mess at the moment So need to do a big tidy up this afternoon  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on November 17, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
No rush at all Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 17, 2015, 04:49:00 PM
I din`t even tidy up David (eldest son gave me a spare pair of hands (his) and we managed to get the legs on my lightweight board and stand it up right. no braces yet but its at least usable as a workbench (if covered) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 18, 2015, 04:12:42 PM
1st job this morning was mask up mega area around the bridge and
 spray both sides with grey primer...turns out the prima must be a bit old as I now have a speckle surfaced bridge. I really shall have to design and build a new one soon :uneasy:
Then got a few corner bits of wood and the top balanced on it more bracing and support needed but its fairly firm and drying on `No More Nails` feet.
Still raining so David carried on helping  (?) me tidy and clear up the room.
Now worn out  :sleep:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 19, 2015, 09:57:23 AM
Any pictures Jon ?
Sorry no but I`ll order a new set of batteries today and some spray bridge paint
(in the meantimer I beg my son to take a couple of quickies)
Midday update....Just been in and had a look  :confused2: it looks a mess at the moment So need to do a big tidy up this afternoon  :thumbsdown:
:'( Alas I appear to have an ex camera the new batteries seem to do nothing for it (I have checked the new batteries out  and they are fine)
Now wheres my Xmas wish list?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on November 19, 2015, 11:11:09 AM
Better drop a few hints re Christmas methinks.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 19, 2015, 11:22:43 AM
 :-[ I should have  known better.
David sealed round a shed window with expanding foam the other day and asked me to seal up the part used container.
I checked it out this morning and as we have a few spare nozzles for it fitted one on and made sure it still worked.
Might as well use some more of it to build up my raised corner  A bad idea.............. I did the front corner 1st and all seemed well even though a bit to much foam had been used and as it cured it got closer and closer to the track  :doh:
Did the back corner as well and moved away from the throbbing seething mass of foam.
Ive dragged any surplus away and things now seem to be hardening off and settling down, in fact the surface seems fairly firm.
Not only is everywhere a mess but Ive managed to  wipe my elbow across it some when and have a bright green sleeve which has not amused me or my sweet wife .
 :dunce: :dunce: :uneasy: :hmmm:   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on November 19, 2015, 02:44:02 PM
Sounds more like 'Quatermass in the Pit', Jon :o
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 19, 2015, 03:53:48 PM
Sounds more like 'Quatermass in the Pit', Jon :o
:laughabovepost: looked like it a bit. I wondered just how much it was going to grow. I partially wanted to keep it clear of the track edging.
Its actually been given a good (?) shave with a razor saw and is about ready to be attacked by sharp Xacto blades before a thin coating of pollifilla to fill all the unwanted nooks and crannies. maybe before that push my longest overhanging loco/stock round it to make sure everythings clear.
The  girder bridge looked really tatty and rubbish between the corners so that has now been binned and I am sat here with my design cap on awaiting divine inspiration 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on November 19, 2015, 06:04:40 PM
I find divine inspiration comes in fits and starts. Usually in fits. When I use polyurethane foam I squirt it onto newspaper well away from anything then cut it to shape when it has cured and put it on the layout then cover it with plaster or polyfiller. No danger of it encroaching on the track and cutting is done away from the track.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: David Asquith on November 19, 2015, 06:18:12 PM
 :thankyousign:  For the  great tip.  Why didn't I think of that?  I didn't use foam because I knew I'd get it where I shouldn't!

Dave
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on November 19, 2015, 08:43:28 PM
I am sat here with my design cap on awaiting divine inspiration

I've given up doing that as I usually get what I deserve :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 20, 2015, 11:32:37 AM
I find divine inspiration comes in fits and starts. Usually in fits. When I use polyurethane foam I squirt it onto newspaper well away from anything then cut it to shape when it has cured and put it on the layout then cover it with plaster or polyfiller. No danger of it encroaching on the track and cutting is done away from the track.
:thumbsup: A great idea. I was trying to come up with idea that would give me 'pre-solidified' foam but hadn't thought of that
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 21, 2015, 11:18:54 AM
 :doh: :doh: Around about 6 important areas of work needed to get up and running again  :confused1: each closely connected areas and things that need leaving for 24 hours before proceeding to the next step.
No set order to do any of them but none will finally work till they are all done.
  :hmmm: Chaos resumes
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 21, 2015, 04:52:30 PM
 :claphappy: :claphappy: At last the track laying and connecting up is completed......not finished but completed and is being levelled to merged into its track bed. Its even pinned down ready to be glued in the morning and then I think it will be conturing the foamed areas and starting to plaster them.
Progress is  :hmmm: progressing :uneasy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 21, 2015, 05:21:37 PM
Delighted to read that, Jon. I look forward to the next photo. update.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 22, 2015, 09:27:40 AM
The 2 humungusly high mountains ..... foam masses at either end of the side incline  huge  :hmmm: near vertical giants of unmanageable height .   :o
There will be heavy pruning down to a more believable height and mass. It shouldn't take long but will make a far more believable geology
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on November 22, 2015, 06:16:03 PM
Could you include a ski resort? Save cutting the foam. :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 23, 2015, 09:04:33 AM
Could you include a ski resort? Save cutting the foam. :)
Nice idea but the footprint size wouldn't allow cthat. Maybe a rock climbing school would be better but if they fell the climbers may well end up under a passing loco
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 28, 2015, 04:07:34 PM
 :worried: Only 3 weeks + the odd day or so till Xmas and the train room still looks chaotic.
Hense .....
No more modelling till the New year.
Just tidy up the whole room from when son descended on us back in the early autumn
Rummage through endless plastic tubs and see what modelling stuff has been bunged in which box.
Search for the floor and areas to stand/walk on.
Finish the lightweight board so theres room to  move 'stuff' off of Ruleoneshire and try and make it so that I can run a few 'twains' if the kids come over.
Just realised that the whole things a bit like trying to 'solve' a Rubik cube with no idea how to do it :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on November 28, 2015, 04:09:42 PM
Take your time, don't rush and see if you can return to some semblance of order.
It will be good if you can run a few trains for grandchildren over Christmas.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on November 28, 2015, 04:49:39 PM
Take your time, don't rush and see if you can return to some semblance of order.
It will be good if you can run a few trains for grandchildren over Christmas.

:thankyousign: With due respect to your idea of running 'twains' for the kids I would add that its ME
 that needs its therapy  >:D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 05, 2015, 11:50:15 AM
 :hmmm: I think I need a kick up the b to get me going again  :(
Heavy cold and rough breathing means Ive managed to do nothing for ages.
Even the tidying ups come to nothing so far  :scowl:
One aid to progress that Ive installed is an order to take possession of one of those 'orrible blue Pullmans that many rave about.  The reason being that the lightweight layout  will be partly a Pullman depot with the Hornby Brighton Belle of the 30s, 2 class 73 Belles (once Dapot pull their fingers out and supply Gaugemaster with the pre-ordered locos) and I thought there really ought to be a blue version to make up the set.
That's a job for the future though  ;)
I need to get Ruleoneshire up and running to run them all in first  :)   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on December 07, 2015, 09:02:28 PM
You don't need an excuse Jon, it's a lovely train  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 17, 2015, 11:27:25 AM
 :doh: Still thick (no sarky comments please) with cold thingie but decided on Tuesday to do some layout work/modifying which wasn't one of my better ideas.
20 minutes in I eased a dropper to one  side and promptly snapped the soldered joint and lost the wire down the `ole  ::) (remember I use pre soldered fishplates to make droppers) and Ive just used my last stock one so am waiting for extra stock to arrive. Should be here tomorrow but ................. :worried:
PC antivirus run out an ensuing chaos now taking priority until I can sort that out  ::)
This afternoon some boxes of not wanted at the moment stock will vanish into the already overcrowded roof /loft area to give me extra room.
Defiantly overspent this month  :veryangry: and still a whole batch of stuff to arrive.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 20, 2015, 04:33:46 PM
An interesting day :-\ messing about and cleaning track and all the other stuff that needs doing before a season of festive :-\ visits from the younger family members. Taking things easy tho after my Friday chaos, but at least that seems to have settled down a bit
Did spend a bit of time hanging a rather 'gappy' track sector for one of my new Minitrix extending track sections but that means finishing off in the morning.
All that's on order or use now (or next week) is either on its way or not really needed till January time and comprises of a few odds and ends
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 21, 2015, 11:52:12 AM
A long hard squint at the layout this morning confirmed  :worried: that it could become a single track mainline layout with a folded over dog bone inner track nearly doubling the length of one full  circuit.
It could be done fairly easily whilst still allowing train movements most of the time
I already have a crossover ready to  slip in
I  think that next year if I`m still able to make changes I will whilst slowly replacing the Peco track and points for the Fleischmann /Roco tracks.
Soon be time to clear the windowsill so that SWMBO can set up her regular seed and plant rearing project  ::) although that should mean the room will be kept slightly warmer than it is now
 :o Just seen this and had to order for the new year  :(    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IDRVT20?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IDRVT20?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)  so now I`m even deeper in dept  :'(   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on December 21, 2015, 02:27:31 PM
Nice!

Happy Christmas!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 21, 2015, 02:48:20 PM
Nice!

Happy Christmas!

Dave G
......And to  you and all  members :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 22, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
 :worried: Decided this morning to try downloading Sparm Scarm and also a full version og Anyrail to see if I can come up with some sort of plan/modification drawings.
Its going to take a while as I`m a dead slow learner.
No incoming parcels still awaited so I an spend some time getting organised  :worried: :-\ and set up for the kids  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: austinbob on December 22, 2015, 11:31:55 AM
:worried: Decided this morning to try downloading Sparm Scarm and also a full version og Anyrail to see if I can come up with some sort of plan/modification drawings.
Its going to take a while as I`m a dead slow learner.
I found AnyRail very easy to learn compared to some (e.g. WinRail) and very intuitive and versatile. Great program.
 :beers:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on December 22, 2015, 12:12:02 PM
:worried: Decided this morning to try downloading Sparm Scarm and also a full version og Anyrail to see if I can come up with some sort of plan/modification drawings.
Its going to take a while as I`m a dead slow learner.
I found AnyRail very easy to learn compared to some (e.g. WinRail) and very intuitive and versatile. Great program.
 :beers:

Good luck with the new project, Jon.

I'm with Bob on the software though.

I know that Scarm offers 3D views, etc., but I guess I'm not clever enough to use it properly. AnyRail I found was an easy way to playing around with ideas and eventually coming up with the Final Plan. That of course, is being tweaked as the track goes down.  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 22, 2015, 02:56:25 PM
:worried: Decided this morning to try downloading Sparm Scarm and also a full version og Anyrail to see if I can come up with some sort of plan/modification drawings.
Its going to take a while as I`m a dead slow learner.
I found AnyRail very easy to learn compared to some (e.g. WinRail) and very intuitive and versatile. Great program.
 :beers:
Agreed austinbob, Ive used the the freebee Anyrail for some years now but decided that I do have a need for the full version nowadays  even if its only to rough out an evolving plan to show you lot  :angel: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on December 22, 2015, 04:36:13 PM
eventually coming up with the Final Plan.

 :o :o
Beware Dave. Others have been there and come to a sticky end, so please confine such thoughts to model railways only :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on December 22, 2015, 05:11:25 PM
eventually coming up with the Final Plan.

 :o :o
Beware Dave. Others have been there and come to a sticky end, so please confine such thoughts to model railways only :laugh:

No worries Mick, my Final Plan is strictly N Gauging.

Anyway, while under the layout I always work with a hard hat and safety harness. One can't be too careful.  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: GeeBee on December 23, 2015, 10:10:21 AM
:worried: Decided this morning to try downloading Sparm Scarm and also a full version og Anyrail to see if I can come up with some sort of plan/modification drawings.
Its going to take a while as I`m a dead slow learner.
No incoming parcels still awaited so I an spend some time getting organised  :worried: :-\ and set up for the kids  ::)

My wife bought me the full version a couple of years ago I used it on both Martini Holt and Wotcanappen and when I am not fit enough to do proper modelling I use it to design what if layouts now where did I put those house blue prints??
Merry Christmas to all
 :idea:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on December 23, 2015, 10:34:17 AM
You can lose many an hour with AnyRail as well as spending an 'if only' fortune.

Have fun with it, Jon.

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 23, 2015, 03:46:11 PM
 :claphappy: Finally got all the modified track glued down on a 1.5mm trackbed and the trackbed  set in quick drying Pollifilla  to the layout so ending all  the hassle I suffered during the last few months. Even tried running a small wheeled wagon along itslenght from the top and it ran all the way down and onward.
Next comes mega track cleaning and dumping of tools spares etc
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 25, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
  :beers: :beers: Happy Xmas everybody :thumbsup:
Im effectively banned from the train room today but  ;) ....................................... ::)
At least Ive managed to get a small order out over the 'net to Gaugmasters but that wont be needed for a while yet.
Last night found a power dead spot on a section of track which is slightly worrying but I can think of an easy fix for that  >:D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 25, 2015, 11:00:30 AM
Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy Railway Modelling New Year! 8-)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on December 28, 2015, 02:57:24 PM
Slapped a dollop or 3 of Pollifilla around on the layout after a few hours track tidying up and cleaning areas of track cleaning..
Even ran cleaning train round all the new bits for the 1st time. :)
1 track power dropper connection has still to be soldered but  breathing suggests that I do that tomorrow morning after my morning inhalers fix has just kicked in  ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on December 28, 2015, 08:18:00 PM
Quite right, don't overdo it mate!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 07, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
 ??? Just been reminded that the Xmas decorations need to vanish into what little roof space we have so that's down for tomorrow afternoon. :'(
That means shifting great mounds of railway stuff and the lightweight board to get into it. Once done though it wont have to be done again till next December thank gawd. All I can do is sit and supervise son and SHMBOd  and hope they do it right(ish)  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on January 07, 2016, 04:10:10 PM
All I can do is sit and supervise son and SHMBOd  and hope they do it right(ish)  ::) ::)

Best keep some suitable disciplinary weapons to hand, Jon. Maybe a taser >:D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 08, 2016, 10:55:49 AM
 :claphappy: :claphappy:
Although
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IDRVT20?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IDRVT20?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00) was promised for February delivery when I ordered it Mr postie delivered it today.
 Next thing to do is see how it runs. Its actually by Kato and not Cato as the advert states
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on January 08, 2016, 03:35:00 PM
Does it come complete with a little Hercule Poirot figure Jon?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 08, 2016, 04:06:03 PM
Does it come complete with a little Hercule Poirot figure Jon?
I`ll have to check the passenger list  :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: cornish yorkie on January 08, 2016, 11:26:33 PM
 :hellosign:  very nice John.
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 12, 2016, 03:01:45 PM
 :( Frustration trying to keep the tracks clean has today lead me to order a CMX clean machine. It might save me a few hours each running session (at least I hope it will)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 12, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
:( Frustration trying to keep the tracks clean has today lead me to order a CMX clean machine. It might save me a few hours each running session (at least I hope it will)

I hope that, when it arrives, it will do the job required of it as well as you want.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 13, 2016, 11:44:12 AM
:( Frustration trying to keep the tracks clean has today lead me to order a CMX clean machine. It might save me a few hours each running session (at least I hope it will)
Early yesterday the above (CMX machine) was ordered from Coastal dcc  and it was delivered here at 10.45 today.
That some service  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 13, 2016, 12:21:25 PM
:( Frustration trying to keep the tracks clean has today lead me to order a CMX clean machine. It might save me a few hours each running session (at least I hope it will)
Early yesterday the above was ordered from Coastal dcc  and it was delivered here at 10.45 today.
That some service  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

That's excellent service indeed, Jon, but I am not surprised as I have also received excellent service from Coastal DCC (a Hex Frog Juicer PCB).

Best wishes,
Chris
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 27, 2016, 10:00:05 AM
And so back into Ruleoneshire for a while..............
The lightweight boards are still evolving but Ruleoneshire needs some TLC and other work especially with the ne Androd tablet soon to arrive and show fantastic  :-\  pictures of things.
I`m giving myself 2 days to change the 1st of a pair of points and will add the next one in next week. (at least that's the theory) ::).
Following that its a a case of relaying the existing route of track to fit in even if it means loosing a set of points in places. :-\ and adding a crossing to double the length of the outer circuit
Maybe better to give myself a week longer. I seem to be in need of replacement track and re aligning odds and s*ds
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 28, 2016, 10:29:42 AM
 :doh: As per usual plans alter :-\ Looking at where I need to change the 1 set of points and update the surrounding track as well I find that it will make sense to rip the whole area up, alter spacing, and rewiring. All in all 6sets of points and at least 4 m lengths of flexi + of course all the wiring etc.
Still  at least Ive got 4 pairs of point and most of the tracking in place. Even had fun wiring up dropper wires as I go along. Now for a rest :wave: :sleep:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 29, 2016, 11:08:45 AM
 :confused1: Mucky morning here today so little progress as far as installation is concerned. Routed round with sons help on Wednesday and found 2 unused  Peco PCU2s that I bought way back in 2008 so started sorting a mounting board out for them.. Then I can start hooking 'stuff' up
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 29, 2016, 11:39:08 AM
 :doh: :doh: Todays just got slower :doh: My 10" tablets just arrived and requires investigation
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 29, 2016, 04:33:01 PM
Decided to lay  a few cut  lengths of flexitrack glue it down so its got plenty of time to dry before I start again tomorrow. Using flexi and  some curved set tracks of Fleischmann seems to be working out quite well and curves actually do go here I want the to :o
Sent GM an order to replace some of the track Im using that was earmarked for my lightweight shunting /storage depot  and that's been dispatched already.
At present Ive lumbered myself with a surplus of points but they will soon get used up and its always handy to have stock in hand ::)
The tablets in hand but taking time to charge up its flat battery  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on January 29, 2016, 06:16:35 PM
  My 10" tablets just arrived and requires investigation

Bit difficult to swallow or do you take it in bytes? :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on January 30, 2016, 08:53:06 AM
  My 10" tablets just arrived and requires investigation

Bit difficult to swallow or do you take it in bytes? :D
I`ll probably put them through a blender and then liquidise them with a dose of PVA  8) ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 01, 2016, 04:02:52 PM
Now with a surplus of spare points for a few days I felt that 1pr of points were rather drastic in that locos would be thrown first sharp right the back to the left in a very short time.....in fact the area may even be to tight for some kettles (proper trains) and running my finger along the top showed that at 1 join the 2 rails had actually ridden up over one another and I had missed it till the offending culprit had gouged a furrow across the skin  :veryangry:
2 long points now occupy the area and have linked in very nicely  but the wirings now an extra day behind
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 03, 2016, 04:08:47 PM
 :) All droppers now connected back to a designated connecting wire. Jus need to spice that into the power bus tomorrow.
I might even get things running by the weekend :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on February 03, 2016, 09:22:25 PM
Let's hope you have a good weekend testing. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 04, 2016, 04:32:05 PM
 >:D :censored: wasn`t  feeling brilliant this morning so took things slow and easy ready to get bon this afternoon
Didn't even get into the layout room ::)
Chest cramp (indigestion not  heart meant Ive done 5/8ths of sweet nothing today.
I am not amused :censored:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on February 04, 2016, 08:51:35 PM
What was the other 3/8ths? :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 05, 2016, 10:36:17 AM
What was the other 3/8ths? :D
:-[ I wasted them
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 07, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
 :doh: Seemed as thou we were having Tom over for a couple of hours yesterday so spent an age connecting the droppers back and into the power bus. Only to be told his other granny had taken him shopping for the afternoon   :censored:  >:D
The train room faced onto the incoming gale force weather so I virtually froze as I linked things back.  Several droppers need soldering onto the track ( I already knew that) but even today the winds howling through the layout room so things must wait yet again :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on February 07, 2016, 04:20:51 PM
Take your time and wait for that wind to die down.
It's been quiet (though VERY wet) here for 2 days wind wise but just starting to blow a hooley (not sure how to spell that!).
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 10, 2016, 11:40:07 AM
Frusteration kicking in big time here  >:(
Dare not start  layout work again till these antibiotics have done their job properly.  :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: cornish yorkie on February 10, 2016, 11:57:17 PM
 :hellosign: Patience John your health must come first
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on February 11, 2016, 12:30:47 PM
I know how you feel Jon, I've done nothing on Wookery for a while, too many other things taking up my time at the moment!
To add to the logjam, I bought a rather nice part-finished layout yesterday hahaha
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on February 11, 2016, 12:45:44 PM
I bought myself a couple of train related jigsaws to do. I can lose myself doing them and the time just flies past. I use a piece of hardboard salvaged from a broken clip frame so I can place it down and pick it up when I need.

Cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 11, 2016, 03:27:11 PM
I bought myself a couple of train related jigsaws to do. I can lose myself doing them and the time just flies past. I use a piece of hardboard salvaged from a broken clip frame so I can place it down and pick it up when I need.

Cheers John.
My wife and I usually spend evenings together doing jigsaws with the TV on in the background unless we are interrupted by a good (?) TV program
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on February 11, 2016, 03:41:46 PM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35330.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35330)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35329.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35329)

The Old Timer jigsaw is unusual because of its outline, I have never seen one like it before. The other one is a standard format.

Cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 16, 2016, 02:40:30 PM
Mojos has anyone got a bucket full they can sell me ?
The anti diabolics finished over the weekend so Sunday I set about doing something to the layout. The joy of being back doing something lasted about  30 seconds and after a few long minutes I just gave up and went back to watching non railway type DVDs >:(
Still I do have a pile of non watched ones to wade through.
Will try again later in the week  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 16, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
Fear not, Jon :no:
I guess at some point everyone's mojo ups and leaves for a while. Personally I wouldn't push for it to return straight away and give yourself a break as I reckon it will prove beneficial.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on February 20, 2016, 03:13:19 PM
Mojos has anyone got a bucket full they can sell me ?
The anti diabolics finished over the weekend so Sunday I set about doing something to the layout. The joy of being back doing something lasted about  30 seconds and after a few long minutes I just gave up and went back to watching non railway type DVDs >:(
Still I do have a pile of non watched ones to wade through.
Will try again later in the week  :worried:

Sorry to hear it, John. I'm always so afraid when my mojo goes away that it won't come back, but it always has so far :) Take a little railway break, but keep up with the forum; we need you! ;) I also find that the forum helps me get my mojo back after a while. Reading about everyone else's projects invariably makes me want to work on my own or in an effort to answer someone's question, ends me up tinkering with my toys until I realize I'm enjoying it a great deal :) if there is anything we can do, let us know :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on February 21, 2016, 03:20:01 PM
I've found by giving yourself a week or two doing something completely differently nearly always helps especially if I watch a steam video or two on youtube to get me back into the feel of the magic. 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2016, 10:47:34 AM
 :( A quick trip into the layout room yesterday to see about clearing the over width window sill ready for 'seed propagation  showed me just how cold the room is despite having a radiator at one end :worried: (or is my poor health just making it feel cold?).Anyway I realised after a few minutes with a heater on that bug blow the window sill I do need to get back in there and get some trains going again. ::)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on February 28, 2016, 10:52:46 AM
:( A quick trip into the layout room yesterday to see about clearing the over width window sill ready for 'seed propagation  showed me just how cold the room is despite having a radiator at one end :worried: (or is my poor health just making it feel cold?).Anyway I realised after a few minutes with a heater on that bug blow the window sill I do need to get back in there and get some trains going again. ::)

Glad to hear the Mojo is starting to flow again, John :)

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 28, 2016, 11:28:15 AM
I do need to get back in there and get some trains going again. ::)

Wonderful therapy, Jon, closely followed by stroking one's favourite pet :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Jerry Howlett on February 28, 2016, 11:59:26 AM
I think MOJO is susceptible to winter.  Definitely lost mine this year just about clinging on to the forum.   

Time for a Glass methinks.... 

Jerry
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on February 28, 2016, 12:07:22 PM
Looking forward to seeing some trains in action Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2016, 01:56:25 PM
I do need to get back in there and get some trains going again. ::)

Wonderful therapy, Jon, closely followed by stroking one's favourite pet :)
:-[ Cant really do that it upsets SWMBOd and the pets husband and kids  :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on February 28, 2016, 05:11:53 PM
Bad bad Jon  :D

Glad you are back on track though.....yeah I know, awful pun  :o
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 20, 2016, 11:44:49 AM
 :( Long time no modelling  but at least I hoped that by keeping visiting in here it might kickstart my mojo back into action.  ::)
Yesterday afternoon I did indeed relay a remaing sector of the outer circuit where it links into one end of the turntable but was struggling a bit when a phone call came in from Tom and Emilys dad asking if we could loo after Tom for an hour or so as an ambulance war rushing the take Emily into hospital with (I quote) a near boiling temperature.
$ hours later they had to collect her and take her home but at least her temperature was back down to normal and it seems like she was/fighting an infection. :doh: Later today I hope to catch up on all the track laying and soldering I gave up on yesterday   :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 20, 2016, 12:41:19 PM
Hope Emily feels better very soon, Jon.
I generally find watching a railway DVD or 2 provokes a wish for me to run some stock round my layout so maybe you could give that a go :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 20, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
:( Long time no modelling  but at least I hoped that by keeping visiting in here it might kickstart my mojo back into action.  ::)
Yesterday afternoon I did indeed relay a remaing sector of the outer circuit where it links into one end of the turntable but was struggling a bit when a phone call came in from Tom and Emilys dad asking if we could loo after Tom for an hour or so as an ambulance war rushing the take Emily into hospital with (I quote) a near boiling temperature.
$ hours later they had to collect her and take her home but at least her temperature was back down to normal and it seems like she was/fighting an infection. :doh: Later today I hope to catch up on all the track laying and soldering I gave up on yesterday   :-\

Yikes! I too hope Emily is now well recovered (or at least on her way). I hope modeling today is a less exciting experience and I do hope it helps get that old mojo flowing ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 20, 2016, 03:30:58 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: 3 special locos (73s) from Dapol via Gaugemasters are now not due for delivery till May of this year
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2016, 03:38:59 PM
Best wishes to Emily.
Yes, keep your spirits up and try to get some modelling work done if you can.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 20, 2016, 03:42:57 PM
Best wishes to Emily.
Yes, keep your spirits up and try to get some modelling work done if you can.

Seconded. I also hope that all will be well with both Emily and your model railway.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 20, 2016, 04:19:37 PM
Thirded from over here  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on March 21, 2016, 07:17:48 AM
Thirded from over here  :D

Ditto + 1!

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: cornish yorkie on March 22, 2016, 08:20:08 AM
 :hellosign: hope all is well soon Jon & you are back on track
regards Derek.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 22, 2016, 10:54:56 AM
Many thanks for Emily comments. She did get to pre-school yesterday and seemed ok after it.
Gave modelling a miss in case we were needed at short notice but cant come up with any excuses today.
So this afternoon is onwards and towards running train direction
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 22, 2016, 12:04:43 PM
Go for it!  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 22, 2016, 02:48:41 PM
Many thanks for Emily comments. She did get to pre-school yesterday and seemed ok after it.
Gave modelling a miss in case we were needed at short notice but cant come up with any excuses today.
So this afternoon is onwards and towards running train direction

Glad to hear Emily is doing better! I hope modeling goes well today :) It seems I caught the mojo bug that has been going around, partially because I've been busy with work and home stuff, but I've been trying to fight it off with little projects. :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 22, 2016, 03:58:16 PM
Many thanks for Emily comments. She did get to pre-school yesterday and seemed ok after it.
Gave modelling a miss in case we were needed at short notice but cant come up with any excuses today.
So this afternoon is onwards and towards running train direction
::) The best made plans of mices and men do go wrong :(
Seems that over half of the grandkids school is laid low with 'the bug' and Emily has slept most of today day, poor lil kid
My track laying took another no go this afternoon as it seemed that for the 1st time since November it was warm/fine enough for me to go out in the fresh air for a car ride during which we called in a a couple of hardware/timber shops looking for 34x34 timber for the lightweight board  legs
 :veryangry: We didn't get any but ive got home knac..... exhausted and so taking yet another afternoon off.
Still theres always tomorrow :-\ :-\
 
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 22, 2016, 06:38:36 PM
Ive got home knac..... exhausted

Join the club Jon. With all my health problems over the last couple of years, I haven't used my bike for over a year. It was a lovely day today, so I dragged out mine and missus's bikes, had to pump up all four tyres, then we did the weekly supermarket run on them. Pumping the tyres up bugg was bad enough, but the bike ride finished me off hahahaaa
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 22, 2016, 09:12:30 PM
As I have no transport to get to the rehabilitation classes at the hospital I have had to resort to my push bike but am not allowed to use it until I have a heart monitor so am collecting one from Argos tomorrow.
Hopefully I can get some exercise then.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 22, 2016, 09:23:47 PM
Hope all goes well, Nobby.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 22, 2016, 09:29:39 PM
As I have no transport to get to the rehabilitation classes at the hospital I have had to resort to my push bike but am not allowed to use it until I have a heart monitor so am collecting one from Argos tomorrow.
Hopefully I can get some exercise then.

Just remember not to over-do it, Mick. With a surgery like yours, there is a fine line between exercising to help your heart and exercising in a way that puts a strain on it. Do as the docs tell you about heart rate. We can't have you making it through surgery and then overdoing it during recovery! I hope things are still going well in the recovery department :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 22, 2016, 09:40:33 PM
I'm quite sure, like Wookie, that I'm no Chris Froome/Sir Bradley Wiggins :no:
The hospital have told me my working heart rate should be between 82 and 103 so if my monitor tells me different I'll refrain from pedalling too hard.
Like Jon, I can recognise when I need a break, but thanks for the cautions.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: David Asquith on March 23, 2016, 12:19:50 PM
Best wishes to the sick, lame and mojo losers,  Hope recovery is quick.

Best Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 23, 2016, 02:15:50 PM
I'm quite sure, like Wookie, that I'm no Chris Froome/Sir Bradley Wiggins :no:
The hospital have told me my working heart rate should be between 82 and 103 so if my monitor tells me different I'll refrain from pedalling too hard.
Like Jon, I can recognise when I need a break, but thanks for the cautions.
I bought one back in about 2012 and keep it to use on a semi regular basis if ever I need to check up on my heart/blood oxygen levels.
I hope you miserable sick lot arnt going to drop out of running the London Marathon wih me again this year  :worried: :-\  >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 23, 2016, 03:30:57 PM

I hope you miserable sick lot arnt going to drop out of running the London Marathon wih me again this year  :worried: :-\  >:(

I've always known you were a joker, Jon. :D


You are...............................aren't you? :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 24, 2016, 11:42:28 AM

I hope you miserable sick lot arnt going to drop out of running the London Marathon wih me again this year  :worried: :-\  >:(

I've always known you were a joker, Jon. :D


You are...............................aren't you? :worried:
:hmmm:   Er..........um.......... nope  :angel:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 24, 2016, 05:42:55 PM

I hope you miserable sick lot arnt going to drop out of running the London Marathon wih me again this year  :worried: :-\  >:(

I've always known you were a joker, Jon. :D


You are...............................aren't you? :worried:
:hmmm:   Er..........um.......... nope  :angel:

Happy 3000th Post! ;) As for the marathon, I'm not sick or infirm (thankfully) but I am still going to tap out of the marathon. ;) I'm claiming insurmountable distance as my excuse ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 25, 2016, 09:58:53 AM


Happy 3000th Post! ;)
 As for the marathon, I'm not sick or infirm (thankfully)
:goggleeyes: :goggleeyes: good grief I hadn't noticed I had posted so much drivel over the years.
The powers that be have once again refused to form a special section for mobility scooters in this years marathon so Ive withdrawn my entry application and shall sulk at home instead on the day  :veryangry: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 29, 2016, 04:47:14 PM
 :o I actually managed to do an hours work on the layout this afternoon
Basically just re-finding all the tools that I left in a muddle and soldering several droppers before hooking up a replacement  feeder  track to the turntable.
Will try and do a bit more tomorrow  :-\ unless I suffer for todays escapade  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 30, 2016, 03:00:06 PM
In the bright light of today  ::) the rerouted turntable feeder track snarls up against a short radius set of points on outer roundy roundy circuit That set of points is now gone and a far nicer curve length of track now installed
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: scotsoft on March 30, 2016, 04:03:07 PM

Happy 3000th Post! ;)

 :goggleeyes: :goggleeyes: good grief I hadn't noticed I had posted so much drivel over the years.


Thank goodness it was only drivel and not  :poop:

Cheers John.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 31, 2016, 11:28:59 AM

Happy 3000th Post! ;)

 :goggleeyes: :goggleeyes: good grief I hadn't noticed I had posted so much drivel over the years.


Thank goodness it was only drivel and not  :poop:

Cheers John.
In all honesty I was being polite etc.  :-\  of course it is mainly :poop: but at least its my own :poop:  :angel: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 31, 2016, 11:40:43 AM
As much as I want to get on today I think it may be a bit risky.  :(
Last evening I  went down with a violently sore/raw throat  and my voice 90% vanished. Today its not too bad but I think I will take things even  easier than normal  >:(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 31, 2016, 11:41:37 AM
I don't blame you Jon.
I've spent the morning working hard on the allotments, I think I'll spend this afternoon dozing in the sun in our summer house  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 31, 2016, 03:37:05 PM
I don't blame you Jon.
I've spent the morning working hard on the allotments, I think I'll spend this afternoon dozing in the sun in our summer house  :D
:sleep: :sleep:
enjoy.....You..........OOPS I MEAN ENJOY YOUR QUIET DOZE IN THE SUN.WE WILL TRY NOT TO DISTURB YOU   :laugh3:





Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 31, 2016, 03:42:19 PM
I didn't get one mate. The missus started cutting down shrubs and stuff in the garden and I felt obliged to go and help.
By the time we finished the sun had gone in  :veryangry:

I'm doubly nack worn out now, time for a lie down I think.....
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 01, 2016, 09:50:01 PM
As much as I want to get on today I think it may be a bit risky.  :(
Last evening I  went down with a violently sore/raw throat  and my voice 90% vanished. Today its not too bad but I think I will take things even  easier than normal  >:(

Hope you are feeling better today or, if not, will be soon!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 02, 2016, 04:29:17 PM
As much as I want to get on today I think it may be a bit risky.  :(
Last evening I  went down with a violently sore/raw throat  and my voice 90% vanished. Today its not too bad but I think I will take things even  easier than normal  >:(

Hope you are feeling better today or, if not, will be soon!
Ive decided to ban myself from the layout room until at least Monday :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 02, 2016, 05:21:40 PM
As much as I want to get on today I think it may be a bit risky.  :(
Last evening I  went down with a violently sore/raw throat  and my voice 90% vanished. Today its not too bad but I think I will take things even  easier than normal  >:(

Hope you are feeling better today or, if not, will be soon!
Ive decided to ban myself from the layout room until at least Monday :'(

:(

As bad as that, huh? I hope you're mended quickly and that you come up with a reason to lift the ban early ;)

All the best and a speedy recovery!
Philip
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 03, 2016, 10:32:31 AM
 :hmmm: The ban has now been lengthened because last night I gave up and came to bed very early and this morning started another weeks dose  of steroids  :scowl:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 03, 2016, 10:52:08 AM
Oh dear, Jon. What are we going to do with you?
Mrs Jonclox has informed me you have turned the knackers yard away 3 times in as many weeks ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 03, 2016, 02:17:27 PM
Oh dear, Jon. What are we going to do with you?
Mrs Jonclox has informed me you have turned the knackers yard away 3 times in as many weeks ;)
She doesn't know the half of it  :(  Yesterday I spotted a family of red kites that circles the village and area for carrion every day peering through the window at me  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 06, 2016, 11:43:01 AM
 :worried: Started to get itchy fingers again and want to get on now ! but I think I will hold back from anything for a couple of more days  :uneasy:
[edit]. So minutes after uploading the above Mr Postie delivers a package of track sections Ive been waiting for  :claphappy:  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on April 06, 2016, 06:37:42 PM
:worried: Started to get itchy fingers again and want to get on now ! but I think I will hold back from anything for a couple of more days  :uneasy:
[edit]. So minutes after uploading the above Mr Postie delivers a package of track sections Ive been waiting for  :claphappy:  :hmmm:

Clearly the package was a go-ahead from the universe ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 14, 2016, 03:44:10 PM
 :) Just checked rail stock level and am preparing to cobble a bit more track together  ::)
Spent a while this afternoon just plottin   planning  out my next move(s)  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on April 14, 2016, 04:27:07 PM
You always need a plot to put your plan in, Jon.  ;)

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 14, 2016, 08:29:41 PM
You have to pick a plot or two :music:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 30, 2016, 09:57:12 AM
 :goggleeyes: :doh:
Just found out that Thomas is coming over for a couple of hours on Monday and Ive not done anything on the  layout for months  :hmmm:
Visitors coming to lunch today so I guess this afternoon its going to be time to knuckle down and see how much I can get done  :uneasy: :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 01, 2016, 11:45:27 AM
 ::) :-[
Well lunch guests arrived at 10 AM followed by youngest son and his tribe.
By the time we got rid they all left we were all totally knac exhausted and so I just collapsed and went to  :sleep: for a couple of hours so total layout progress was once again  :'( zero :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on May 01, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
It's nice to know your family want to come and visit but I do also know exactly what you mean about  'Lovely to see you! When are you going?'  :D

I've not touched the layout build-wise for best part of 3 weeks although I must confess I've done a fair bit of 'testing'.

Hope that the coming week allows you time and energy to have a go.  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on May 01, 2016, 09:51:55 PM
Thank goodness we've no grandchildren and the house is too small to entertain visitors. :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 02, 2016, 09:43:02 AM
 :claphappy: Managed 3 twenty minute sessions yesterday weaving  metre long curved track between two existing (to be re-tracked later this year) so at least at long last its laid and temporally pinned down in the right position so I can at least glue it down later today  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 02, 2016, 09:49:29 AM
That metre length I laid yesterday consisted of elements of 12" 15" and even a short section of 18" curves before finishing in a short strait section  :scowl: thank gawd for Fleischman semi flexidrive track
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on May 06, 2016, 05:41:17 PM
Glad to hear you've had some free time and a little mojo and gotten some track down :) I've been busy lately and haven't been making tons of progress (one little thing a day usually). Keep us informed on the progress :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on May 06, 2016, 07:11:02 PM
Glad that you have made some progress.
I too find the Summer months less productive railway wise (so much other stuff to do).
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 07, 2016, 11:44:16 AM
 :claphappy:
The horticultural side of the bedroom has now done its job for 2016 and my tool/kit space is now cleared until Jan. of next year so I can exractum didjitum and start work on a cleared  -reclaimed layout and  get on with things  :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 07, 2016, 01:57:35 PM
:claphappy:
The horticultural side of the bedroom has now done its job for 2016

Do you have a rising damp problem, Jon? ;)

I can exractum didjitum

Sounds like a spell from Harry Potter :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on May 09, 2016, 11:14:11 AM
:claphappy:
The horticultural side of the bedroom has now done its job for 2016

Do you have a rising damp problem, Jon? ;)



Sounds like a spell from Harry Potter :confused1:
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 :-[ Its not rising damp that concerns me but the opposite  :-[ but the GP says I have to accept a certain amount of that as I get older   :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 09, 2016, 03:16:34 PM
A problem suffered by many, Jon, especially the Chinese. They have even named a city feature after it - Tenamen Square. :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 23, 2017, 02:59:11 PM
I was in masochistic mood today and decided to read this thread from start to here. :doh:
Heavy duty stuff if you can stand the pace  :-[
As Ive finally got my Dapol 73s I need something to run them on.
As yet I still have to get into the train room to suss things out.
Plans are afoot  :doh: to  make the  incline far steeper and higher  :-\
Investment (?) has been made in the form of a Fleischmann DCC rack and track loco (730581) and the rack and pinion track all within the incline unit which at the momment contains Peco track.  I only have about half the track I will need but can soon get some more.
Calling a GP out on Monday to give me a check over has done a power of good and the 73 deliveries has really helped
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 23, 2017, 03:09:03 PM

Calling a GP out on Monday to give me a check over has done a power of good and the 73 deliveries has really helped

Glad to hear some of your mojo has returned, John :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on February 23, 2017, 04:42:47 PM
Good to have you back Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daveg on February 23, 2017, 06:04:21 PM
All good news but don't push your luck!!  :thumbsup:

Dave G
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 23, 2017, 06:17:02 PM
A reasonably short chat with Ann and son David (33) over meal time brought about a pleasent outcome.
They are both pleased that I want to start work on the layout again but are happy to impose certain parimiters  :o
I only work when they are in the house to keep an eye on me and I dont attempt anything that will cause me to much breathing stress and stear clear of any nasty stinkie glues/paints/cleaners.  :angel:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 23, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
Everyone is thinking of your welfare, John, so please do as you are told :telloff: ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on February 24, 2017, 01:20:13 AM
That's good news indeed, John. I'm glad you're feeling inspired and up to doing a little here and there. Don't overdo it and stick to the rules ;) Happy modeling :)

Philip
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 24, 2017, 02:22:28 PM
 :goggleeyes: :( :'( sneeked into the train room after lunch to see whats where etc.
 :doh: :worried: The whole rooms a  :censored: mess and freezing cold :thumbsdown:
Think it needs to warm up a huge ammount and have several blitzes of tidying up done befor I can start using it.
Having read this thread through my memory cell was jolted and I discovered I had an old DCC 73 and a I can muster 5 73`s
The idea has always been to build a heritige layout and track which is what  the lightweight boards are for but in the meantime they will have to run on Ruleoneshire  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 25, 2017, 11:12:34 AM
I boasted that I had read this thread fron page 1 right through till page 79.
OK I had browsed/spead read/scanned every page it but not. every word  :doh:
Now over several days I am actually reading every  page/words and trying to mentally retain details/mistakes/advice before getting back into doing anything
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 25, 2017, 07:04:19 PM
 :veryangry: Grrrrrrrrrrrrr :doh: back  on the steriods again  :censored:  :veryangry:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 26, 2017, 07:00:23 PM
 :o Phew  :goggleeyes: Ive actually read this  :poop: right through now.
Hunted out and ordered a cheepo camcorder from Fleebay and placed yet another odds and sods order with Gaugemasters
We need to thaw out the train room  before I venture in there  :angel:
I recon I might start doing things next week if all is well   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 27, 2017, 10:42:54 AM
 :worried: Before Ive actually done anything towards working on the layout Ive just quickly added up to see roughly how much its cost me so far  :worried:.
I think I`ll need to go on a bread and water diet for a few weeks to pay for anything  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on February 27, 2017, 10:56:42 AM
:worried: Before Ive actually done anything towards working on the layout Ive just quickly added up to see roughly how much its cost me so far  :worried:.


Doing such a thing is an exercise in futility as it will always have a bad effect on your health and wallet.
The NGF propaganda Section recommends this is never repeated :no:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on February 27, 2017, 01:10:19 PM
Before Ive actually done anything towards working on the layout Ive just quickly added up to see roughly how much its cost me so far

You silly silly boy   :dunce: - that's something you NEVER do!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 27, 2017, 01:37:06 PM


You silly silly boy   :dunce: - that's something you NEVER do!
But I just did  :doh:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on February 28, 2017, 04:17:13 PM
  :) Well  today a new fan heater for the train room has arrived so its a go situation as far as starting is concerned
BUT
My credit card bill has also arrived so I cant afford the lectric stuff to run it :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 02, 2017, 02:12:55 PM
sheduled phonecall/chat with my GP has added in a few goodies  :confused1: to make breathing/life easier and includes some 'anti panic and depression ' substances .
They will take till mid next week to take effect so till then Im going to be  lazy  :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Innovationgame on March 03, 2017, 09:30:46 AM
  :) Well  today a new fan heater for the train room has arrived so its a go situation as far as starting is concerned
BUT
My credit card bill has also arrived so I cant afford the lectric stuff to run it :'( :'(
You'll have to start saving up then!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 03, 2017, 10:11:11 AM
  :) Well  today a new fan heater for the train room has arrived so its a go situation as far as starting is concerned
BUT
My credit card bill has also arrived so I cant afford the lectric stuff to run it :'( :'(
You'll have to start saving up then!
I know  :'( :'( ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: austinbob on March 03, 2017, 10:13:28 AM
:worried: Before Ive actually done anything towards working on the layout Ive just quickly added up to see roughly how much its cost me so far  :worried:.
I tried that once but my calculator didn't have enough 0's on it  :no:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 03, 2017, 01:57:38 PM
It's scary what we spend isn't it?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 07, 2017, 11:32:07 AM

I recon I might start doing things next week if all is well
Started new tablets Friday tea time and by 19-00 felt ruff and was going back and forth to bathroom.
20-00 the room was spinning and I wasnt feeling at my best  :worried:  :sick2: :sick2:
Tablets now binned but still getting over the problems caused so modelling put off for another few days  :'(  :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 07, 2017, 11:51:59 AM
In the immortal words of Unlucky Alf from the Fast Show "Bugger"

I hope you have made your doctor aware of this, Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Innovationgame on March 07, 2017, 12:52:17 PM
I hope you're back on form soon.   :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 07, 2017, 01:22:22 PM


I hope you have made your doctor aware of this, Jon.
Oh I promise you we have in no uncertain words  :censored:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 08, 2017, 11:16:03 AM
 :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daffy on March 08, 2017, 11:43:54 AM
As a seasoned human guinea pig for a countless variety of drugs prescribed by various quacks over the years, most of which have had negative adverse reactions upon me (one I particularly remember was of the 'take pill, wait thirty minutes, fall over, land on blunt metal item' variety) you have my sympathies Jon.

Getting the right drug regime can be a troublesome process. Here's wishing you a speedy return to modelling. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 12, 2017, 11:19:58 AM
Soooooooooooooooo....for now I hope theres an end to spending  :-\  and I concentrate on actually modelling
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 12, 2017, 11:38:59 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on March 12, 2017, 08:42:13 PM
Soooooooooooooooo....for now I hope theres an end to spending  :-\ 

Are you sure? :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 13, 2017, 03:58:48 PM

Are you sure? :)

 :doh: :( :'( Um .............................No  :'(
Joy oh joy  :veryangry: :censored: Im back on the steroids again
Anyone got any grapes they want crushed?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 13, 2017, 04:34:55 PM

Are you sure? :)

 :doh: :( :'( Um .............................No  :'(
Joy oh joy  :veryangry: :censored: Im back on the steroids again
Anyone got any grapes they want crushed?

No. But I have some tissues requiring ripping ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Innovationgame on March 13, 2017, 04:59:18 PM
If it's a GP who's doing this, then we're not surprised.  If its a consultant, then that's more of a problem.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 13, 2017, 07:49:08 PM
If it's a GP who's doing this, then we're not surprised.  If its a consultant, then that's more of a problem.
The jump from one to the other for my COPD problems is about 6+ months unfortunatly
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 18, 2017, 11:16:04 AM
 :worried:  :-[  caught in the act  :help:
Thomas and sister visited this morning with their dad and I didnt  know they were here till they came upstairs and found me in the train room  :-
Im instructed to get on with things and they will inspect again soon  :help: :help:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 18, 2017, 01:20:16 PM
In the immortal words of Father Dougal McGuire "Go careful now"
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 18, 2017, 02:45:47 PM
In the immortal words of Father Dougal McGuire "Go careful now"
"Rush in slowely" also springs to mind
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 20, 2017, 02:39:38 PM
Managed to actually get into the trainroom after a visit from my GP lunchtime  :claphappy:
Tidied up a little and then ripped out about a metre of  old track>>>>>>>>>>> binning it as I went.
Fogot to take spare specs in with me so just ripped and cut by feel  :-\
Tommorrow with luck I will be able to see and can start replacing >>points>>track and 30 degree crossing then onwards and  round the inner circuit replacing track etc.etc. to the crossing again
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 21, 2017, 07:11:12 PM
 :) Spent a happy hour or 3 kit bashing a Kestral station building/complex  together.
Quite relaxing
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on March 21, 2017, 08:31:23 PM
:) Spent a happy hour or 3 kit bashing a Kestral station building/complex  together.
Quite relaxing
Enjoy the relaxation.
Can we see a piccie please?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 22, 2017, 08:03:20 AM
:) Spent a happy hour or 3 kit bashing a Kestral station building/complex  together.
Quite relaxing
Enjoy the relaxation.
Can we see a piccie please?

Seconded! Yes please. :photospleasesign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 22, 2017, 11:12:24 AM
Fogot to take spare specs in with me so just ripped and cut by feel  :-\

I hope you didn't go in there later and found you'd ripped up the wrong bit of track Jon!  :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 22, 2017, 11:37:10 AM
Fogot to take spare specs in with me so just ripped and cut by feel  :-\

I hope you didn't go in there later and found you'd ripped up the wrong bit of track Jon!  :D
:worried: :worried: er>>>>>>>>>>> nope  So  far so good :thumbsup:
I might even get round to changing a set of points and retracking  the area later  today :help:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 22, 2017, 02:36:16 PM
:) Spent a happy hour or 3 kit bashing a Kestral station building/complex  together.
Quite relaxing
Enjoy the relaxation.
Can we see a piccie please?
Fleebay camcorder has arrived and awaiting  a memmory card and reader before pictures can be taken + I guess I  shall need  extra lighting  above the layout :veryangry:
Then I might get some pictures   :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 22, 2017, 03:26:20 PM
 :veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: Think this new inhaller thing is going to take time to stablise and get used to me. Did  try and do some track modding earlier but had to give up with 5/8ths of absolutly nothing achieved.
Not the progress I wanted to make  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 22, 2017, 04:50:35 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 23, 2017, 02:10:53 PM
:veryangry: :veryangry: :censored: Think this new inhaller thing is going to take time to stablise and get used to me. Did  try and do some track modding earlier but had to give up with 5/8ths of absolutly nothing achieved.
Not the progress I wanted to make  :hmmm:
Ditto again today unfortunatly.
Im really beginning to wonder if I will ever get back into the practical side of things  :'( :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Innovationgame on March 23, 2017, 03:53:37 PM
Keep your chin up John.  I usually find that when things seem as though they couldn't get worse, something turns up.  Conversely....you have to keep looking over your shoulder.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 23, 2017, 04:06:28 PM
Keep your chin up John.  I usually find that when things seem as though they couldn't get worse, something turns up.  Conversely....you have to keep looking over your shoulder.

Which chin though?  :worried:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINITRIX-N-GAUGE-LIMITED-EDITION-DER-ADLER-SET-CC1/131051237714?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dd76a68d911ba40d39fa82765635df4d7%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D282200694741 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINITRIX-N-GAUGE-LIMITED-EDITION-DER-ADLER-SET-CC1/131051237714?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dd76a68d911ba40d39fa82765635df4d7%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D7%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D282200694741)
Maybe a lower priced version of this may spur me on when it arrives on Friday/ Saterday  :)
Not sure if its DC or DCC though :-\
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 25, 2017, 07:19:34 PM
 :-[ Did get some things done today but not what I had planned out
(see my comments etc in the Happy Thread)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 26, 2017, 02:58:20 PM
 ::) Close on 30 minutes this afternoon saw a set of points and some old Peco track taken up and fresh set of Fleischmann  points fitted with the correct IRJs and lenght of flexitrack connected just waiting for  my next  :-\ session.
I think this set is going to be the hardest to work on/around because it involves quite a stretch across the board  :worried:.
Still once  its done its  :goggleeyes: done apart from wiring which wont happen for some weeks/months yet
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 27, 2017, 07:06:30 PM
Glad you are getting there Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on March 27, 2017, 07:17:28 PM
Keep going Jon.
You will get there.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 27, 2017, 09:54:29 PM
Sorry to hear the inhaler isn't making modeling any easier, Jon. Sounds like you've gotten some good work done over the last week or so though! I look forward to seeing what you did with the kestrel station. I've been planning a few buildings that I intend to bash out of kestrel kits when I get around to it. :) And trackwork can be a bear! Glad to hear you're making progress with it. Not sure how high your baseboard is, but since I like them high, I find standing on a short step helps me reach areas towards the back a little more easily, as I don't have to worry about my stomach hitting the buildings up front! However you do it, make sure to stop and straighten your back up often or you'll stay stooped over half the day afterwards (if you're like me!).

All the best,
Philip
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 29, 2017, 03:41:02 PM
  :worried: :worried: just called GP out for a house call  :worried:  will have to wait and see what happens.Down hill all the way sinse last night :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daffy on March 29, 2017, 03:53:39 PM
Thinking of you John, and wishing you well. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 29, 2017, 04:03:56 PM
  :worried: :worried: just called GP out for a house call  :worried:  will have to wait and see what happens.Down hill all the way sinse last night :(

Hope all is OK following his/her visit, Jon. Let us know please.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Innovationgame on March 29, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
Thinking of you John, and wishing you well. :thumbsup:
The same goes for me!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on March 29, 2017, 06:45:47 PM
Fingers crossed that all is well Jon
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Caz on March 29, 2017, 07:33:50 PM
Hope things improve soon Jon, my recent illnesses pale into insignificance compared with what you go through.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 29, 2017, 08:00:50 PM
Best wishes for a speedy recovery Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 29, 2017, 08:17:38 PM
Thinking of you, Jon. I hope the doctor's already come and gone and that you are resting and feeling better as I write this.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: austinbob on March 29, 2017, 08:34:43 PM
You've had more than your fair share of problems recently. Hope you're soon on the mend
Jon.
 :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 30, 2017, 09:57:49 AM
 :-[ I`m still here  > > > > just.
 :-[ All of this is my fault really. Turns out that the new inhaher Ive been on a week has a maximum of 4 puffs a day > >> > >
I was taking it as a short time reliever and taking 5/6 puffs at a time and about 5/6 a day as  I understood I had been  that  it was a direct replacement for the type I had used for the last few years.
The inside of my mouth, throat , etc rebelled, shrunk and turned red(?) sore.
No short term inhalers wer used after that was realised a phone call GP chat happening today and maybe even a house call will follow .
 :thankyousign: everybody for asking etc.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Innovationgame on March 30, 2017, 10:23:45 AM
Great news that you're on the mend!  :beers:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 30, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
Good news, John, and I hope the soreness can be alleviated very soon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: daffy on March 30, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
Good news indeed John - having been give so many different inhalers myself over the last 12 months I can fully understand how you can get the doses wrong. Here's hoping the right dose gives you a great improvement in both the short and long term.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 30, 2017, 01:27:30 PM
GP has been on the phone and set me back on my old short term inhaler  :confused1:  She played at vampires when she was over last week and must have dained my left arm out of red stuff   :help:  :confused2:
Results given over the phone today show that all   is in reasonable order apart from a low level of wrought iron so tomorrow we raid our chemists shop for a course of wrought iron tablets :confused1:  and spare short term inhallers
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 30, 2017, 01:59:04 PM
Goodness! You were winding up with 8-9 times the daily dose!  :goggleeyes: They should really have made it very clear to you how different this type is to the one you were on previously. I'm glad soreness and swelling were the only side effects, as those can (and hopefully will) heal quickly. Glad to hear the bloodwork came back good as well :) I hope you readjust to the old inhaler quickly and can enjoy some stabilization for a bit!

All the best

Philip
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 30, 2017, 02:50:17 PM
so tomorrow we raid our chemists shop for a course of wrought iron tablets

Everyone in the Basingstoke area with iron railings had better beware.
John will be taking offence :)
Do not attempt to apprehend him as he may take a gate as well.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 30, 2017, 02:54:09 PM
so tomorrow we raid our chemists shop for a course of wrought iron tablets

Everyone in the Basingstoke area with iron railings had better beware.
John will be taking offence :)
Do not attempt to apprehend him as he may take a gate as well.
            :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: keithbythe sea on March 30, 2017, 02:58:32 PM
so tomorrow we raid our chemists shop for a course of wrought iron tablets

Everyone in the Basingstoke area with iron railings had better beware.
John will be taking offence :)
Do not attempt to apprehend him as he may take a gate as well.

Do you think that I am safe here in the New Forest? Basingstoke is not that far for a desperate man. Maybe as a precaution I should hastily paint my fence with that lead paint I have hoarded somewhere?

Hopefully on the mend very soon Jon.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 30, 2017, 03:13:56 PM
I just noticed John has said tomorrow he will be raiding the chemists shop.
Tomorrow is Friday, so if he is offered 'something for the weekend' you'll probably be safe for a while, Keith. ;)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 30, 2017, 03:32:03 PM
  'something for the weekend' you'll probably be safe for a while, Keith. ;)
:angel:  :-[  :whistle: :whistle: I dont understand what you mean  :-\  :-[
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on March 30, 2017, 09:16:30 PM
I wish somebody would offer me something for the weekend. I suppose we can all dream. ::)
My wife has the same problems as you and uses Ventolin as a short term inhaler. She has about a 50% lung capacity. The other inhalers she uses have Spanish trade names but I can send you details if you're interested. They have stabilized her condition and now she uses very little oxygen.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: N-Gauge-US on March 31, 2017, 01:46:57 AM
I wish somebody would offer me something for the weekend....

They have stabilized her condition and now she uses very little oxygen.
Surely you're at an age now when you can buy them at the chemist instead of secretly from your barber, Mito. ;)

And excellent! I wish her continued stability and ever-improving health. :) Let's hope they can get Jon to the same place. :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 31, 2017, 10:50:10 AM
a low level of wrought iron

I TOLD you not to make your own rails!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 31, 2017, 10:56:38 AM
a low level of wrought iron

I TOLD you not to make your own rails!
:goggleeyes: Oooooops is that where I`m going wrong ?
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on March 31, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
 ::) ::) a trip to the bathroom after lunch ended up with a suprise  :-[
Got back into the bedroom and slipped. Made a heap type mess on the bedroom floor with a damaged shoulder blade and in a mad airless  panic. 
Details phoned thruogh to the paramedics brought me a siren sounding/light flashing ambulance.
Took the paramedics close on a hour to get my breathing stablised and me back on the bed.
Maximum painkiller dose seems  :-\  to be coping with things for now
Lif is fun  :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: austinbob on March 31, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
Don't know what to say Jon. You deserve a bit of good luck after all this rubbish stuff which has been happening to you.
 :beers:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on March 31, 2017, 06:39:18 PM
What a pair of old crocks we are Jon.

I think we need an "ailments" secion on this site - it will be the one with the most posts!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Mito on March 31, 2017, 08:52:51 PM
I wish somebody would offer me something for the weekend....

They have stabilized her condition and now she uses very little oxygen.
Surely you're at an age now when you can buy them at the chemist instead of secretly from your barber, Mito. ;)

And excellent! I wish her continued stability and ever-improving health. :) Let's hope they can get Jon to the same place. :)

Thank you.
You can buy them here in supermarkets. Discounts for bulk buys. Had my tubes cut years ago so only fire blanks.  :D

Jon, hope you get over the fall soon. Keep smiling and a little noggin will do you the power of good. :)
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: port perran on March 31, 2017, 08:55:44 PM
You deserve a break Jon with all the illness that you've had to cope with lately.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on March 31, 2017, 09:39:54 PM
Somehow or other you need to get to the therapeutic 'running of trains' stage but I dread to think what will happen getting there, Jon :worried:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 02, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
a little noggin will do you the power of good. :)
A nice idea but damage to dijestive tract back in the 1990s means the noggin  would probably kill me even quicker :(
 :thankyousign: :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 02, 2017, 04:07:32 PM
 :uneasy: They put me on the list  :worried: They  realy have a list  :hmmm:
Every fall (if any) I have goes on their list :worried:
I wonder what the prize is for say 5 falls  :help:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Hailstone on April 02, 2017, 04:49:40 PM
you used to lose after 2 falls or a submission on Saturdays!  :D

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: wookie on April 02, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
:uneasy: They put me on the list

Big brother is watching you Jon 👮
You need to do some railway work to lull them into a false sense of security....
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: keithbythe sea on April 02, 2017, 07:50:36 PM
You deserve a break Jon with all the illness that you've had to cope with lately.

Surely Jon doesn't need a break as well  :help:

Wishing you better fortune soon!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 02, 2017, 08:05:50 PM
you used to lose after 2 falls or a submission on Saturdays!  :D

thanks Alex, I will take extra care at the weekends then   :confused1:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Newportnobby on April 02, 2017, 09:32:26 PM
you used to lose after 2 falls or a submission on Saturdays!  :D

Regards,

Alex

World of Sport - Kent Walton and all that :D
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Hailstone on April 02, 2017, 11:07:15 PM
Wrestling on Saturday afternoon - Mick Mc Manus, Jackie Pallo, Les Kellett, Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks, Kendo Nagasaki and many more!

Regards,

Alex
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 05, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
 :) shoulder pain easing now but theres no bruise or  anything to see  :doh:
 :sleep: pattern completely wrecked.......... about 2 hours only last night :sleep:  >:( and even that was uncompfortable :-\  so
 :sleep: :sleep: now if possible   
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Innovationgame on April 05, 2017, 12:50:51 PM
Hopefully, everything will ease off over the next few days.
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 08, 2017, 11:09:23 AM
 :( been few days sinse I did anything but my chest has got a bit 'cackley' so SHMBO has sugested that a course of
Antibiotics is somewhat overdue again.
1st dose taken and awaiting signs of them kicking in  (probably tomorrow).
At least I`m sleeping better again now  :sleep: :sleep: although I just dont want to eat anything  :(  :sleep:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 09, 2017, 11:10:27 AM
 :dunce: :headbutt: :ouch:
I think the antibiotics must be kicking in  :worried:
Tis the date to do my credit card payments by post.  Never a problem once Ive checked the ammounts in the bank and what I owe.
Checked this morning ,slid some money around and wrote the cheque out to the ammount I  need to pay.NOT Right no way.
The resulting cheque ready to post off was made out to 3 times the ammount I owe.
So I had to go back and make another one out. Just under what I really owe.
 :dunce:  :doh:

Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Milton Rail on April 12, 2017, 03:55:19 PM
sounds like the kind of think I do on an all too frequent basis .... and I can't blame any medication!   :hmmm:

Hope your finding some time to run the layout
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: austinbob on April 12, 2017, 05:41:50 PM
Didn't realise you had to pay a credit card bill??
Thought it was part of old age benefits.
Oh well, might have to sell some of my locos on eBay.
That's life I guess.
 :doh: :confused2:
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 18, 2017, 04:02:04 PM
 :angel: finished with the antibiotics and refusing to take any more iron tablets. ::) the side effects from those has  ripped my inside to shreds  >:(  and I`m spending hours in the bathroom but Ihave invested in a 'soft,padded seat`which makes life just about bearable  :(
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: Innovationgame on April 18, 2017, 04:11:59 PM
:angel: finished with the antibiotics and refusing to take any more iron tablets. ::) the side effects from those has  ripped my inside to shreds  >:(  and I`m spending hours in the bathroom but Ihave invested in a 'soft,padded seat`which makes life just about bearable  :(
Sounds like a pain in the bum!
Title: Re: Ruleoneshire
Post by: jonclox on April 19, 2017, 03:50:26 PM
:angel: finished with the antibiotics and refusing to take any more iron tablets. ::) the side effects from those has  ripped my inside to shreds  >:(  and I`m spending hours in the bathroom but Ihave invested in a 'soft,padded seat`which makes life just about bearable  :(
Sounds like a pain in the bum!
:worried: It was  :o  but all now appears to be mended if not cured  :whistle: :whistle: