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Title: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: NeMo on May 21, 2013, 06:35:52 PM
Have been lurking here for a while, learning masses and enjoying the discussions. Nice light-hearted antidote to those days when work does my head in! Decide it was time to take the plunge and say "hello".

Nominally set in the West Country around about the late 60s through to the late 70s, my aim is to create somewhere my 9Fs and diesel-hydraulics will look about right. I've got some other engines I run from time to time that don't belong, most recently a Union Mills 'Adams' 0-6-0 that's an absolute treat to watch.

After having tried out Peco Streamline on several previous layouts that didn't last more than a few months each, I've switched over the Kato Unitrack. Once ballasted (and eventually air-brushed with grimy paint) it looks pretty good, I think. Buildings are mostly kits, but there are one or two ready-made buildings as well.

The track plan is very simple. The outer loop doesn't have any points at all: my 9Fs and Dapol 73s seem to consistently derail on Unitrack, so I use this outer loop for them.

The inner loop has one passing loop and two sidings, one of which is alongside what I've interpreted as a former cattle dock that's been extended into a general siding for use by some sort of agricultural supplier. It contains bits from two Ratio cattle dock kits with a scratch-built extension and a bigger ramp for trucks. At some point I'll build a covered area for one end of the platform. It's big enough for four VGA wagons, which in my imagination are being used to transport agricultural chemicals or materials of some sort, perhaps seeds or fertiliser.

The station is a combination of Metcalfe platforms with (so far) a Kestrel building on one side. I'll need to add another building and a footbridge in due course. The nearby village is mostly Kestrel buildings, painted white and black to suggest the whitewashed walls seen very commonly in the Quantocks and adjacent parts of Somerset where my layout is meant to be set.

Some pictures below.

Cheers, Nemo

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5139.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5139)
Overview a few months back

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5140.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5140)
Class 14 passing some track workers

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5141.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5141)
A scene on the station platform (track recently ballasted, but needs painting)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5142.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5142)
Warship 'Kelly' heading a train of mineral wagons

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5143.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5143)
The village (definitely a work in progress!)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5144.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5144)
Class 14 in the freight siding
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Geoff on May 21, 2013, 07:45:04 PM
Hello and welcome Nemo, nice layout you have there sorry to here about your derailments on your inner loop, anyway hope you enjoy your stay.
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Pengi on May 21, 2013, 07:47:58 PM
 :welcomesign: NeMo, some lovely work on your layout - the pub is terrific
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: IanUK on May 21, 2013, 07:48:33 PM
Hi Nemo :welcomesign: Im a relative newbie, but all on here are friendly and helpful, hope your stay is a long one.

Nice layout  :thumbsup:

Ian.

Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Only Me on May 21, 2013, 07:58:14 PM
Hi nemo, welcome aboard!!

Both myself and Sprintex are both from Hertfordshire too :D
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: daveg on May 21, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
Hi NeMo  :welcomesign:

Thanks for the info and excellent pics.

Please keep the info coming and if ever you need to pick a brain or two I'm sure there are a few here that will be happy to help!  :)

Dave G
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: NeMo on May 21, 2013, 09:06:43 PM
Thank you all for the kind words of welcome; much appreciated!

I'm sure I will have questions in due course. Between this site and the N Gauge Society, I'm finding modelling in N a lot less intimidating than I feared. There didn't seem to be much in books or magazines.

Cheers, Nemo
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: port perran on May 21, 2013, 09:17:38 PM
Welcome aboard.
That's a great looking layout you have developing there. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 21, 2013, 09:18:39 PM
Hi Nemo - welcome to the forum :wave:
9F's and Hydraulics,eh? A choice I very much approve of.
Just for my curiosity, what make are your 9F's please?
Nice layout, by the way :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Tank on May 21, 2013, 10:26:54 PM
Welcome to the forum.  A lovely looking layout that you're making. :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 21, 2013, 11:28:36 PM
I'm very surprised the 73s derail as I ran 73s on unitrack a lot - but the older ones the wheel gauging was sometimes way off so its perhaps not entirely a surprise. It's not hard to regauge them fortunately.

I don't know which 9F you have but some of them had real problems and Dapol did a fix kit that added a spring to keep the front truck down properly. A 'fix kit' is or was available from Dapol if yours is one of the problem batch. Worth checking with Dapol if you are not sure.

Nice attention to detail with the milk churns and the bricked up station window.
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Sprintex on May 22, 2013, 04:52:50 AM
Welcome in NeMo :wave:

Some great scenic work there :thumbsup:

Might be best to start your own thread in the 'Layout Construction' section so you can keep us all updated with your progress, with plenty of :camera: of course! ;)


Paul
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: scotsoft on May 22, 2013, 08:19:32 AM
Hi NeMo and  :welcomesign:

That is a great layout you have gong there and thank you for posting the pictures of it  :thumbsup:

Feel free to ask any questions you may have  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: jonathanclaire on May 22, 2013, 09:12:08 AM
Love the realistic clock in the background, was that scratch built or from a kit?  ;)
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: CarriageShed on May 22, 2013, 12:58:00 PM
Welcome, Nemo. The layout looks absolutely superb, and your scenic work is inspiring me in advance of building my own layout for the first time in many years.

As for the points problem, with or without the Dapol fix that EtchedPixels mentioned, have you tried reverse points? If they face in the opposite direction to travel, do they still cause derailments?
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Jerry Howlett on May 22, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
Welcome Nemo, from an ex Hertfordhire resident from Ware?....

Also I have an addiction to 9Fs. Confirm with Etched Pixels that Dapol did a fix for the early (9's that involved a replacement underframe ) this is probably still available all it needed was an SAE sent to them.

As for the ugly duckling D95xx rememember them as "A LAD" on the western , your scenic work looks the buisiness!
Jerry
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: NeMo on May 22, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
Wow! What a great set of replies and welcomes. Much appreciated.  :beers:

In answer to the questions: newportnobby, the two 9Fs are the two "weathered" Dapol ones, ND 090M and ND 090N (pictured below). They're lovely looking models. Thank you EtchedPixels for the tip about the fix-it kit, and as it happens, Dapol Dave advised me just the same thing when I sent a message off about the 9Fs over the weekend. I'll report back (perhaps on the 9F review thread) if this fixes the problem here.

jonathanclaire, I do wish I knew how to build (or rebuild) the clock. It's the best part of a couple hundred years old, part of my inheritance from my dad. Unfortunately it's been through the wars a bit, and while the external bits could be PVA'ed back together without too much fuss, I don't know where to start re-threading the wires between the springs and weights inside the mechanism.

Pete33, the 9Fs and the 73s derail fairly consistently on the Kato points, the 9Fs pretty much all the time in both directions whatever the point setting, while the 73s are fine if the point is straight ahead, but derail about 50% of the time going round the curve. If it makes a difference EtchedPixels, the two 73s are ND036B and ND008B, which I believe are the old, split-chassis, non-DCC-friendly models.

Cheers, Nemo

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/58/thumb_5147.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=5147)
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: rogerstalbans on May 22, 2013, 08:42:41 PM
I think I recognise the pub sign - is it The Lower Red Lion in St Albans?

I like the scenic work on and next to the Unitrack. I'm working on a Unitrack layout and you've set the standard for me.

Roger
St.Albans
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Alex on May 22, 2013, 08:59:36 PM
Hi Nemo,

Nice looking layout. The 9Fs look good. I like the weathering on then, very effective.

Alex :wave:
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2013, 09:03:32 PM
Not too sure myself, Alex.
I have the weathered 92133 and it looks a bit too 'stripey' for my liking :-\
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Alex on May 22, 2013, 09:08:43 PM
Any way you can soften the effect by using a cotton bud dipped in thinners or IPA?
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Newportnobby on May 22, 2013, 09:11:39 PM
Any way you can soften the effect by using a cotton bud dipped in thinners or IPA?

I may try that if I dare pluck up the courage. I do prefer RTR weathered v pristine but just am not sure about this one :hmmm: Sorry if I'm nicking the thread here :-[
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Sprintex on May 22, 2013, 09:51:25 PM
:offtopicsign:

I think I recognise the pub sign - is it The Lower Red Lion in St Albans?

I like the scenic work on and next to the Unitrack. I'm working on a Unitrack layout and you've set the standard for me.

Roger
St.Albans

Sneaking a first post in there Roger ;)

Welcome to NGF :wave:


Right, back to the thread  :)


Paul
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Bealman on May 23, 2013, 12:01:38 AM
Hi there from Australia, Nemo! Wonder if that was you I saw at Sydney Harbour the other day?   :D ;D Just kiddin'

Great layout you've got there! Love the shot of the Class 14 passing the track gang, and I too also like the pub. Just goes to show that a layout does not have to be big to be enjoyable and atmospheric. Great job, mate! Looking forward to seeing more of it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: ffdockree on June 11, 2013, 12:47:50 AM
Hello Nemo from a fellow newb and Unitrak fan.
Your scenic work looks outstanding! I have similar plans for cosmetically improving my Unitrak, and it's nice to examples of what can be done.
Are the points that are causing derailments number 4's? If so, a google search can show you some methods for tuning them up.
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: CarriageShed on June 11, 2013, 10:15:18 AM
There has been quite a bit of discussion about Kato #4 points here. Hopefully this helps you, too:
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=14125.msg144068#msg144068 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=14125.msg144068#msg144068)
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: diesel on June 13, 2013, 03:44:14 PM
Hello Nemo and welcome nice layout you have ,I have a passion for the warships got hermes in maroon .
Title: Re: Hello from Hertfordshire
Post by: Maurits71 on June 13, 2013, 03:53:10 PM
Hi Nemo

welcome :welcomesign: