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Title: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 12, 2013, 03:33:04 PM
Hi Folks,

BASEBOARD

Well I thought I would start a thread to cover the creation of my train set - HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  This is actually Mark II as the first (BODDINGFORD JUNCTION) was destroyed by damp after a house move.  Luckily it was insured so it was not a complete disaster.  ;)

What I learned from BODDINGFORD JUNCTION was that 6' x 4' is BIG in N gauge so with Mark II I reduced the baseboard size to 80cm wide x 185cm long x 87cm high.  Also, not being any good at DIY my kind wife ordered the baseboard from White Rose Modelworks in North Yorkshire for my 40th birthday.

http://www.whiterosemodelworks.co.uk/ (http://www.whiterosemodelworks.co.uk/)

I highly recommend White Rose - the quality of the board and service is first class.

Anyway, to whet your appetites here is a photo of the baseboard assembled, front edge painted black (by me!) and the backscenes (also painted by me) attached.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/Bareboard01_zpsd1f74e62.jpg)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: swisstony on February 12, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
Nice Piece of woodwork you have there  :goggleeyes:

Now "Add Track You Must"  :-X
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: Paddy on February 12, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
Thanks SwissTony - can't take any credit for that though.  :D

Your request is my command...  Here is a test fit of the track.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/Bareboardwithtrack01_zps9d233b37.jpg)

The track plan is based on one of Hornby's OO layouts and was converted to N Gauge using WinRail.  The layout is called COMMERCIAL ROAD and was created for Hornby by Scenic Model Railways.  HOLLERTON JUNCTION has a very similar track plan - one less siding if memory serves to get it to fit.

http://www.scenicmodelrailways.com/ourlayouts.html (http://www.scenicmodelrailways.com/ourlayouts.html)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: Paddy on February 12, 2013, 04:35:29 PM
BASEBOARD CONTINUED

The next challenge was noise.  The baseboards from White Rose are made from high quality MDF and when track is laid directly on top it is noisy.  On my first layout I elected to use PECO foam underlay and whilst it looks OK it was hard to make the tack level and running suffered as a result.

My solution was to cover the baseboard top with Fibre Board - the stuff that is placed under laminate flooring.  Packs of 10 sheets can be bought from B&Q (~£19) and it I used about 3 of them.  The remainder I placed on eBay (buyer collects) and they sold easily!

Here is a photo showing the baseboard covered with Fibre Board.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/IMG_1384_zpsff58f74d.jpg)

You can also see the layout plan attached to one of the backscene boards.  ;)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: Newportnobby on February 12, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Great to see progress is being made on Hollerton Junction. Nice one, Paddy :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: scotsoft on February 12, 2013, 06:37:56 PM
That looks like a nice space you have there Paddy, I will definitely be keeping a lookout for progress reports  ;)

cheers John.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: matt94 on February 12, 2013, 06:50:40 PM
Everything looks really well made so far  :thumbsup: Although i have to say, can a layout ever be too big  ;D
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: Paddy on February 12, 2013, 08:31:39 PM
Thanks everyone.  One of the reasons for starting this thread is to give me the discipline to make progress on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  There will be more postings over the coming weeks as you all keep me honest!  :worried:

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: Paddy on February 13, 2013, 10:03:38 AM
BASEBOARD CONTINUED

My next challenge was to cover the surface of the Fibre Board so that it was sealed and gave realistic (I use this term loosely) ground cover.

In one of the older Hornby track plan books they seemed to have laid the track on top of ballast and l liked the look of this effect.  I wondered how Hornby had done this... was it scatter material or some form of matting?  I found it hard to believe Hornby would use scatter so ordered a couple of rolls of Hornby granite mat believing this to be the "simple" solution - big mistake.

Hornby's mat comes rolled up and is basically lining paper with grey scatter glued to it - a lot of which falls off!  It is also not very flexible and where it has been rolled there tends to be creases etc.  Suffice to say this option did not work and looked awful after I had stuck it down.  :(

Much head scratching ensued whilst my poor baseboard lay in ruins - well not that bad but I was disappointed.  After a few days I decided action had to be taken and I bought some thick mounting card from a local art shop, removed the mat and resurfaced the baseboard.  The results were good as you can see in the following photo.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/IMG_1385_zps591e2fb5.jpg)

So back to square one.  I had a smooth neat surface but no ground cover.  I thought about using scatter material, paint or even reverting to PECO foam underlay.  Whilst wandering around B&Q, I came across a spray paint called Plasti-Kote Stone Touch.

http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/paint/specialist-paints/spray_paint/-specificproducttype-black___grey/Plasti-kote-Stone-Touch-Spray-Gotham-Grey-400ml-9254009?skuId=9261708 (http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/paint/specialist-paints/spray_paint/-specificproducttype-black___grey/Plasti-kote-Stone-Touch-Spray-Gotham-Grey-400ml-9254009?skuId=9261708)

I bought a can to test and the results were excellent.  It took a couple of coats to evenly cover my baseboard but the effect was perfect for me.  In terms of colour, it looks like the moulded ballast on the Tomix N gauge track - almost a perfect match I would say.  Here is a photo of the effect.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/IMG_1392_zps8ace95d8.jpg)

Now I had a good solid, flat baseboard with a very effective ground cover ready for track laying.  Remember, this is "my" train set and I have very clear ideas about what I want to achieve.  :)

To finish this post, here is a photo of the track laid on to the Plasti-Kote ground cover.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/IMG_1393_zps17f8ad16.jpg)

I have learnt a lot (personal experimentation and from others) whilst building HOLLERTON JUNCTION and one of the reasons for this thread is to share this knowledge.  Hopefully some people will be able to avoid the mistakes I have made by reading this.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: matt94 on February 13, 2013, 02:19:39 PM
That looks good, might find a use for that myself. Will you still be balasting the track?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
Post by: Paddy on February 13, 2013, 02:31:50 PM
That looks good, might find a use for that myself. Will you still be balasting the track?


Hi Matt94,

No, I will not be ballasting the track, the effect I am after can be seen here:

http://www.thebroomroom.co.uk/portfolio/print-portfolio/hornby-track-layouts/ (http://www.thebroomroom.co.uk/portfolio/print-portfolio/hornby-track-layouts/)

What I can report is that I get excellent running.  All my locos run quite happily through the PECO Setrack points, no stalling.  This includes the short wheelbase locos.  I assume this is down to the fact the track is flat/level?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 14, 2013, 10:51:26 AM
ELECTRICS

If I thought the baseboard and track plan were a challenge then "electrics" (and I am not talking EMUs here!) filled me with fear.  As I was returning to the hobby after 20 years I thought this area must have got easier.  I was sure PECO would have simple solutions for neatly attaching power wires to the rails and to provide isolated sections (in addition to those provided by the points).

Er, no.  PECO still sell their rather large brass power clips (Part# ST-9) which have now gone from being a slightly more discrete black colour to bright yellow!  In OO, PECO sell a straight track that has a built in isolating switch and I assumed this would be available in N gauge.  You've guessed it, the answer is "Er, no".  This means I had to place a rather large order with Expo Tools for wire, soldering iron etc. just to wire up a train set.

Whilst my track plan is not that complicated it does require 15 isolating switches and I needed a neat way to house these.  Many weeks of research in to all manner of "control panel" options lead me to the idea of having a mini keyboard case with the switches in rows.  Also, the cost of PECO switches seemed rather high and I was advised to buy similar SPST toggle switches from Rapid Electronics.

My black keyboard case (Part# A0519009) was sourced from a company called OKW Enclosures Limited and whilst not cheap (~£34) is of lovely quality.  The case measures 19cm wide x 14cm deep x 5cm high, full details can be found at http://www.okw.co.uk/products/okw/desk.htm. (http://www.okw.co.uk/products/okw/desk.htm.)

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/zA0519009_zpsb2f6e2f0.jpg)

As mentioned above I bought 16 black SPST toggle switches from Rapid Electronics (Part# 78-0193) at a total cost of £16 - about £1 per switch.  An absolute bargain and again they are beautifully made.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/Switch_zpsf38b1e03.jpg)

To get this far on the electrical side had taken seven months and this is with a lot of help and support from the N Gauge Yahoo Group.  I would not say N gauge model railways are "user friendly" or understand the concept of "Plug & Play"!

Word of warning about the OKW keyboard case - it is of VERY high quality (as one would expect for that price) and making holes in the top for the switches to go through is not easy.  The case is made from very tough plastic.  Also, you will need some rubber washers to stop the switches moving - I bought 25mm hose washers from B&Q (Part# WB501QV2).

After calculating the spacing of the switches so I ended up with 3 rows of 5 (see photo below) I covered the top of the case with masking tape so I did not scratch it whilst drilling.  I used a Zircon mini drill with a Bosch 5mm drill bit to create the holes and a flat needle file to smooth the edges.

Before fitting the switches I washed the case in warm soapy water and placed it in the airing cupboard to dry thoroughly.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/IMG_1404_zps344b7894.jpg)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Lawrence on February 14, 2013, 12:11:32 PM
Fascinating read Paddy, and great fun to watch your progress through this project, and good of you to share your mistakes along with your successes.
Personally I don't like the Hornby look, but as you rightly said its your layout and you know the look you are after.

Having read it from start to finish again, I can't help but imagine you are or have been involved in technical authoring or quality  :D
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 14, 2013, 12:24:49 PM
Fascinating read Paddy, and great fun to watch your progress through this project, and good of you to share your mistakes along with your successes.
Personally I don't like the Hornby look, but as you rightly said its your layout and you know the look you are after.

Having read it from start to finish again, I can't help but imagine you are or have been involved in technical authoring or quality  :D

Hi Lawrence,

Thank you for your kind words.  Trust me I have made many mistakes along the way and wasted a lot of money trying out different options.  If I can save others some time and money then my efforts will have been worthwhile.

As for technical authoring/quality - not really.  Although I have spent almost half of my professional life to date in technical/customer support management.  Also, I have had a book published so one tries.  :)

I see you list your location as Fife?  I grew up in St Andrews although I live in England now.  Absolutely love Scotland and we try to get back once a year.  Before you ask about "Paddy" - I was born in England of Irish descent and grew up in Scotland!  Not sure what that makes me...

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Lawrence on February 14, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
Fascinating read Paddy, and great fun to watch your progress through this project, and good of you to share your mistakes along with your successes.
Personally I don't like the Hornby look, but as you rightly said its your layout and you know the look you are after.

Having read it from start to finish again, I can't help but imagine you are or have been involved in technical authoring or quality  :D

Hi Lawrence,

Thank you for your kind words.  Trust me I have made many mistakes along the way and wasted a lot of money trying out different options.  If I can save others some time and money then my efforts will have been worthwhile.

As for technical authoring/quality - not really.  Although I have spent almost half of my professional life to date in technical/customer support management.  Also, I have had a book published so one tries.  :)

I see you list your location as Fife?  I grew up in St Andrews although I live in England now.  Absolutely love Scotland and we try to get back once a year.  Before you ask about "Paddy" - I was born in England of Irish descent and grew up in Scotland!  Not sure what that makes me...

Many thanks

Paddy

Confused!!  :D

I work about 10 mins from StA's where things are all up in the air at the moment (literally!)and live in a small village on the south bank of the Tay between the bridges, I'm sure you'll know the places.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 15, 2013, 03:45:26 PM
Quote
Confused!!  :D

I work about 10 mins from StA's where things are all up in the air at the moment (literally!)and live in a small village on the south bank of the Tay between the bridges, I'm sure you'll know the places.

Hi Lawrence,

Yes, we know that area quite well.  I lived in Lawmill Gardens (near to the Craigtoun Country Park) in St Andrews and we tend to stay in the caravan park there when we visit.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 15, 2013, 06:24:05 PM
ROLLING STOCK

Today's posting is about rolling stock, MK1 Sleepers to be precise.  Now I know Graham Farish will be releasing their own MK1 Sleeper this year but mine were created back in 2009.  The idea came about after creating a set of MK1 TPO coaches (I will try to cover these in a future posting) using printed sides from Robbie's Rolling Stock.

http://www.robbiesrollingstock.co.uk/ (http://www.robbiesrollingstock.co.uk/)

Discussing MK1 Sleepers with Robbie he suggested amending his existing LMS Sleeper art work as the coaches are very similar.  Robbie sent me through some example art work to "try" and we arrived at an agreed set printed coach sides.

Robbie prints his art work on high quality photo paper (not vinyl, well not in 2009) so they need to ideally be sealed before use.  For this I chose Ghiant Ink Jet Fixative Spray which comes in matt and satin finishes.  The spray costs about £8 a can but it is an excellent product and can be bought from numerous places such as Amazon.

Note of caution, whilst Ghiant spray is really good I found out that less is more!  Do not spray Robbie's sides too closely or flood the surface with the spray - they will run!  Instead, spray from 9-12 inches and start spraying before the printed side and after i.e. waft it over.  This way the spray seals the surface and the art work remains unblemished.  I also stuck the sides on to a large piece of card with masking tape so they did not move when sprayed.

To create the actual coaches I purchased two Bachmann Graham Farish MK1 coaches.  These were not the latest Blue Ribband MK1s (not available in 2009) but rather Bachmann's updated original Farish MK1s.  I chose these as I wanted the improved wheels, printing on the sole bar and ends.

My MK1 Sleepers were to be in BR Maroon livery so you can use any MK1 apart from Blue/Grey as they have blue sole bars.  First task was to disassemble the coaches down to their constituent parts i.e. remove bogies, roof and seating.  I masked off the chassis with tape to ensure the delicate printing did not get damaged.

Next I used a black permanent marker to "paint" the sides and edges.  This ensures none of the original livery can be seen.  It also provides a solid surface on which to glue the new sides.  The sides were cut out carefully using a new scalpel and the white edges coloured black with a felt tip.  Do not use the permanent marker as the ink is to strong and can bleed in to the art work (another email to Robbie asking for more sets of sides!).

These coaches only have printed detail so there are no raised mouldings to remove before attaching the new sides.  I used neat PVA applied with a flat brush that dried quickly and has not curled or lifted in the subsequent three years.  When reassembling the coach I chose to leave the seating in place (it cannot be seen) as it adds weight to the coach.  Robbie has colour matched the maroon of the Sleeper very well to the Graham Farish MK1s in Maroon and they do not look "odd" in a train.

Finally, here is a photo of the finished MK1 Sleeper.  Alas my poor photography does not do justice to the finished model.  They look even better in real life.   ;)

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/MK1SleeperB_zpsc7f41fe3.jpg)

For some reason Robbie does not list these sides on his web site but I am sure he would be happy to supply them if asked.  I cannot recommend them enough.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 18, 2013, 03:40:09 PM
STOCK BOXES

I was looking for a viable solution in terms of stock boxes for a few years.  After much research including the feedback from the N Gauge Yahoo Group I decided to use the following.

First I ordered a number of foam trays from Jon at JB's Model World.  Jon used to have a web site but now trades from his eBay shop.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/JBs-Model-World/N-Gauge-Storage-/_i.html?_fsub=2187821&_sid=110615568&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/JBs-Model-World/N-Gauge-Storage-/_i.html?_fsub=2187821&_sid=110615568&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322)

The trays I went for were 201that hold thirty six 10 foot wheelbase wagons although some are a tight fit. For example, a PECO box van fits perfectly. For wagons and locomotives I ordered the 202 tray where the cut out is one long section that can hold up to two MK1s (or similar length item) per row. Personally I have found tray 202 of more use than the 201 version and ordered more of those from Jon.

The foam trays are of high quality and come with the cut out pieces in place. If you want, you can cut the waste pieces with a scalpel to form dividers as appropriate.  Finally for each tray I bought a corresponding foam cover sheet (303).

To store the trays I wanted a "cabinet" that allowed fast access to stock but kept it clean and safe. The Pierre Henry A4 12 Drawer Multi Filing Cabinet whilst not cheap is excellent and provides a secure (metal chassis and plastic drawers), mobile (has optional wheels) and each drawer holds one foam tray with cover.

My two cabinets (yes I have 24 trays - not all filled!) are all black in colour but these seem to have been updated as follows:

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/cabinet_zpsaf662555.jpg)

Alas the price on these cabinets has increased but when I bought them WH Smiths were doing a deal on two.  You can still purchase them from places like Amazon, TESCO etc.

One word of warning though, the foam trays are slightly wider than the internal dimensions of the cabinet drawers (approximately 1cm). Length wise they are a perfect fit. This means that each foam tray and cover has to be cut with a scalpel to make it fit. This is not difficult and takes a couple of minutes per foam tray.

Whilst not the lowest cost option the above does deliver a high quality solution and as this was a "one off" I was happy to go ahead. With two of these cabinets you can literally store 100s of items of stock. The optional wheels make movement easy and there are inserts on each drawer where a small card can be placed to explain the contents.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 19, 2013, 12:36:10 PM
BREWERY WAGONS

In memory of my late Father I decided to assemble and run a brewery train on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  Although the period for HOLLERTON JUNCTION is quite wide (1948-1968) the use of Private Owner wagons (especially those in "as new" condition) is not accurate.

However, the train is colourful and I know Dad would have appreciated it. ;)

At present the train consists of the following wagons:

1 x Dapol Bulk Grain Hopper "Bass Charrington"
1 x Dapol GPV "Fremlin Bros"
2 x Dapol GPV "Palmers Brewery"
1 x Dapol GPV "Willow Brewery"
2 x Graham Farish Box Van "Allsopp's"
2 x Graham Farish Box Van "Bass"
2 x Graham Farish Box Van "Fremlin Bros"
1 x Graham Farish Box Van "Worthington"
1 x Graham Farish 7 Plank Wagon "Flower & Son"
1 x Minitrix 8 Plank "Nicholsons' Brewers"
2 x PECO Box Van "Bass"
2 x PECO Box Van "Worthington"
1 x PECO Cattle Van "GWR Ale Wagon"
1 x PECO Cattle Van "Bass"
1 x PECO 4 Wheel Tanker "United Molasses"

Some of the above wagons are not easy to find these days but the search has been fun and I have made contact with some very helpful people along the way.

Last night I created my own version of the PECO "Ale Wagon" by adding a "Bass" logo and barrel load to a standard BR bauxite cattle van.  The result is rather neat even if I do say so myself and it certainly looks the part even if it is not prototypical.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/IMG_0083_zps253579bb.jpg)

The Graham Farish 7 Plank "Flower & Son" wagon is an early Bachmann model circa 2003 and is rather attractive.  At that time, Farish were using darkened plain wheels which whilst better than the bright ones can still be improved.  I chose to replace these with new Farish spoked wheels.  I also added a barrel load to this wagon to finish it off.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/IMG_0082_zpsff03803e.jpg)

Finally, there is a web site created by Mitch Stepanovitch that is full of wonderful information about N Gauge/Scale wagons.  I have no connection but it is worth a visit.

http://www.stepo.net/index.html (http://www.stepo.net/index.html)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Newportnobby on February 19, 2013, 12:44:59 PM
A beer train - yay! :beers:
Well done, Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: MinZaPint on February 20, 2013, 11:34:20 AM
That's a very impressive list of Brewery wagons, makes my 6 van set look pretty ordinary! I'll have to up my game!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: portland-docks on February 20, 2013, 11:51:05 AM
Well i currently have 14 bass brewery box vans...and i aim to add another 20 or so to it :p
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 20, 2013, 11:57:41 AM
That's a very impressive list of Brewery wagons, makes my 6 van set look pretty ordinary! I'll have to up my game!  :thumbsup:

Sort of got carried away!  :D

Mind you, 20 wagons is about the limit for HOLLERTON JUNCTION anway.  Actually, there is 21 as I have not listed the wagon I got for Velentine's Day - Dapol Bulk Grain Hopper "Bass Charrington".  I have updated the list above.  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 20, 2013, 05:57:59 PM
BREWERY TRAIN

This is my first video and I have to say the quality is not good - obviously need more practice!  :doh:

Anyway, it tries to show my brewery wagon train in all its glory.  The locomotive is 46400, an Ivatt 2MT 2-6-0 in BR black.  This Minitrix locomotive was purchased new by me back in 1997 and was fettled by the Model Railway Doctor  in 2000 to improve its running and haulage capabilities.

 (http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/MVI_0101_zpsd00b6e71.mp4)
Enjoy.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: MinZaPint on February 20, 2013, 07:56:05 PM
BREWERY TRAIN

This is my first video and I have to say the quality is not good - obviously need more practice!  :doh:



Wow that makes my efforts look good  :thumbsup: Have another go, would like to see them again or have I over indulged!! The old glims ain't what they used to be (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink009.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 20, 2013, 09:08:29 PM
BREWERY TRAIN

This is my first video and I have to say the quality is not good - obviously need more practice!  :doh:



Wow that makes my efforts look good  :thumbsup: Have another go, would like to see them again or have I over indulged!! The old glims ain't what they used to be ([url]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink009.gif[/url]) ([url]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php[/url])


I know, not sure what went wrong there.  Is it lighting?  Anyone got any tips?

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 22, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
ADDING VARIATION TO A STANIER 8F

The Graham Farish Stanier 8F 2-8-0 has long been a favourite of mine as large freight locomotives fascinate me.  Also, although it is not the most detailed of models its die cast construction captures the rugged, powerful nature of these locomotives.  Finally, it reminds me of its Hornby Dublo big brother.  Totally charming to my eyes.  :)

Shed 13C currently has two 8Fs allocated:

1. 48773 (LMS 8233) which was built by the North British Locomotive Co. in Glasgow during June 1940.  The locomotive is fitted with a riveted Stanier tender with BR late crest.  48773 was withdrawn in August 1968 and has been preserved.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/372-153_zpse5368ef4.jpg)

2. 48709 (LMS 8709) which was built at the Brighton Works in June 1944.  The locomotive is fitted with a riveted Stanier tender with BR early emblem.  48709 was withdrawn in July 1967 and scrapped at J. Cashmore in Newport during January 1968.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/372-152_zpsa291f4cf.jpg)

To provide some variation I ordered a replacement Fowler tender (BR late crest) from Bob at BR Lines to attach to 48773.  As these locos do not have tender pick-ups the exchange was easy although the drawbar that came with the Fowler tender is too short.  Not a problem though as one simply uses the drawbar that came with the Stanier tender.

8F 84773 now looks like this:

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/372-151_zpsc7c7b085.jpg)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Newportnobby on February 22, 2013, 12:47:54 PM
Very nice, Paddy :thumbsup:
I have had an 8F for years, and only miss that piece of 'girderwork' that came down over (I think) the 2nd driving wheels from the front. Still, too easy to snap off probably :(
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 23, 2013, 07:27:11 AM
Very nice, Paddy :thumbsup:
I have had an 8F for years, and only miss that piece of 'girderwork' that came down over (I think) the 2nd driving wheels from the front. Still, too easy to snap off probably :(

Hi Mick,

The 8F seems a logical choice for Bachmann to upgrade.  They have a new Stanier tender and the WD chassis could be modified to provide the 2-8-0.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: longbridge on February 23, 2013, 07:54:39 AM
Ah Paddy there is nothing quite like the Stanier 8F to get the pulse racing, great loco and good luck with the layout  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on February 28, 2013, 03:34:44 PM
DAPOL SIPHONS

Back in November I purchased one of Dapol's new Siphons in BR Maroon (2F-024-004).  These updated Siphons are lovely models with a fine paint finish and nice wheels.  You may not know, but Dapol also took the opportunity to add NEM coupling pockets to these vans.  Whilst I am happy with the standard Rapido coupling I know others will welcome the addition of NEMs.

My only concerns about the new Siphons are:

1) It's weight - it is very light.  Having said that, it runs well and I have not had any derailments on HOLLERTON JUNCTION with it.

2) The NEM Rapido coupling that is supplied with the Siphon gives a very wide gap between items of rolling stock.

The weight issue I can live with unless it starts to cause problems.  However, even I find the gap a little too large and would like to reduce it.  Not being familier with NEM couplings I bought a pack of Graham Farish Standard NEM Couplings thinking these would be shorter - they are not!  In fact, they are exactly the same size as those provided by Dapol.

My next plan is to obtain a pack of Graham Farish Short NEM Couplers to see if they help.  I will report more when I have been able to try these out.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Newportnobby on February 28, 2013, 08:24:24 PM
Thanks Paddy.
I'm sure a few folks are eagerly anticipating the results of your experiment :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 01, 2013, 11:45:07 AM
PROTOTYPE INFORMATION

Over the years I have collected information about the real railways which I have found valuable.  Recently, a lot of this has been used in the creation of my computer timetable system for HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  Sadly I cannot recall the source of this information (thank you to those who helped) but I share it in the interest of helping others.

BRITISH RAILWAYS DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE CLASSIFICATIONS

Brake HP Type
Under 1000 1
1000 to 1499 2
1500 to 1999 3
2000 to 2999 4
3000 and over 5

BRITISH RAILWAYS STEAM LOCOMOTIVE CLASSIFICATIONS

BR adopted a modified version of the LMS classification system, itself based on the Midland Railway's system.  Each locomotive class was given a number 0-9 that signified its power, 0 for the least powerful and 9 for the most, with a suffix of F or P, indicating Freight and Passenger roles respectively.

Freight power ranged from 0-9, Passenger from 0-8. Many locomotives were used for both roles, in which case they were given two power rating values, the P first e.g. 3P4F or 6P5F.  A slight change from the LMS system saw those where the Passenger classification equalled the Freight classification, e.g. for the LMS Black Fives 5P5F, reclassified as 5MT.  Mixed Traffic locomotives had power rating in the range of 2-7.

Freight 0-9F
Mixed Traffic 2-7MT
Passenger 0-8P

WHYTES WHEEL ARRANGEMENT NAMES

0-2-2 Northumbrian 2-2-0 Planet
2-2-2 Single 4-2-0 Jervis
4-2-2 Bicycle 6-2-0 Crampton
0-4-4 Forney 2-4-0 Porter
2-4-2 Columbia 4-4-0 American
4-4-2 Atlantic 4-4-4 Reading
2-6-0 Mogul 2-6-2 Prairie
2-6-4 Adriatic 4-6-2 Pacific
4-6-4 Hudson, Baltic 2-8-0 Consolidation
2-8-2 Mikado, Mike, MacArthur 2-8-4 Berkshire, Kanawha
4-8-0 Mastodon 4-8-2 Mountain, Mohawk
4-8-4 Northern 2-10-0 Decapod

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 01, 2013, 11:51:01 AM
And then there is the '9F' which had no 'P' rating but working the Pines Express and other passenger services  :worried:

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 01, 2013, 12:59:37 PM
And then there is the '9F' which had no 'P' rating but working the Pines Express and other passenger services  :worried:

One of my all time favourite locomotives - the 9F.  A perfect locomotive for the S&D.  My understanding is that the Class 9 Standard 2-10-0 actually had a power rating of 8P9F.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 02, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
DAPOL SIPHONS

...

2) The NEM Rapido coupling that is supplied with the Siphon gives a very wide gap between items of rolling stock.

... However, even I find the gap a little too large and would like to reduce it.  Not being familier with NEM couplings I bought a pack of Graham Farish Standard NEM Couplings thinking these would be shorter - they are not!  In fact, they are exactly the same size as those provided by Dapol.

My next plan is to obtain a pack of Graham Farish Short NEM Couplers to see if they help.  I will report more when I have been able to try these out.


Whilst sorting out my spares box I came across the bag of extras for my Graham Farish Class 47.  Upon inspection I found that it contained two short NEM Rapido couplers.  I have now fitted these to my Dapol Siphon and I can report they work well.

The gap between the Siphon and other stock is reduced from 14mm to 11mm.  This 3mm reduction may not sound much but it improves the appearance significantly - I suppose this should not be too surprising as it is approximately 18" in the real world!

Also the Siphon still goes around 1st Radius curves without buffer locking or derailing.  So in short, I can highly recommend the fitting of short NEM couplers to the Dapol Siphons.  Just begs the question why Dapol did not do this?

Hope this helps.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Caz on March 02, 2013, 06:27:26 PM
Hi Paddy,

Sorry, but I'm finding very difficult reading your posts with all those block capitals, any chance you could refrain from using them unless absolutely necessary. 

Thanks
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 02, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
Hi Paddy,

Sorry, but I'm finding very difficult reading your posts with all those block capitals, any chance you could refrain from using them unless absolutely necessary. 

Thanks

Hi Caz,

Your wish is my commaned - no problem at all.  Always happy to receive customer feedback.

:thankyousign:

Changes have been made.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 03, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
DAPOL SIPHONS

I thought it might be useful to see a BEFORE and AFTER shot of the Dapol Siphons with the short NEM coupler fitted.

Before:

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/BEFORE_zpsf8a6b69d.jpg)

After:

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/AFTER_zpsdc320892.jpg)

Hope this helps.

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 03, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
FINISHING OFF THE "TARTAN ARROW"

Always fancied running the Tartan Arrow train on HOLLERTON JUNCTION as the CCTs are rather attractive.  Also, as mentioned previously I grew up in Scotland so it is great to have a link on the layout.  ;)

Today's task was to replace the Lima "Pizza Cutter" wheels on the Tartan Arrow CCTs with blackened coach wheels from Graham Farish (code# 379-412).  These wheels make a big difference to the look of the Lima CCTs for what is a relatively small cost.

One issue to be aware of is that the new wheels fit tightly in to the bogies and this restricts the free running of the van.  To resolve this take a small drill bit (I use a 0.9mm one) in a pin vice and give each bearing a couple of turns.  Do not press too hard as we only need to remove a very small amount of plastic.

Once the new wheels have been inserted, check they rotate freely and their back to back (B2B) with a gauge.  Personally I use the one sold by the N Gauge Society which I can highly recommend.

Here is a photo of a suitably modified Lima CCT.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/LIMA_zps6436e12d.jpg)

Now I am off to check the B2B on a number of freight wagons!

Have a great weekend.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 04, 2013, 10:54:07 AM
CAMERA CUSHION

Last week I ordered a camera cushion as I wanted something to balance my camera on when taking close up shots etc.  I looked for a "bean bag" but could not find one suitable at a reasonable cost.  Whilst searching with Google I came across the FUJIFILM Camcushion which arrived today and is excellent.

You can view/purchase the Camcushion at the following URL:

http://www.fotosense.co.uk/fuji-camcushion.html (http://www.fotosense.co.uk/fuji-camcushion.html)

No connection apart from a very satisified customer.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: scotsoft on March 04, 2013, 11:45:47 AM
It is good to hear when something you buy lives up to your expectations  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 04, 2013, 01:29:56 PM
Which brings me on to my next question.  My Canon Powershot A510 camera is getting rather old.  One option would be to upgrade to the latest Canon equivalent... However, the world of digital cameras seems to be very complicated these days.  Does anyone have a recommendation?

Do I need optical image stabilisation?  How many mega pixels?  What other features are useful?  What about movies?  Is Canon still a good make?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Paddy on March 06, 2013, 03:55:21 PM
PROTOTYPE INFORMATION

Here is some more information that other may find of interest.

Miles & Chains

There are 80 chains in one mile, thus 20 chains is equal to quarter of a mile, 40 chains is half a mile, and 60 chains is three-quarters of a mile.  A chain is 22 yards - the length of a cricket pitch.

Up & Down Lines

This is quite simple to understand, the Up line is the one that is considered to be heading towards London or major location.  In the UK trains run on the left - if you are ever unsure what this means in terms of your layout then look at the British Rail double arrow logo.

British Railways Passenger Livery Information

The following table is meant to be a guide.  Liveries overlapped periods due to delay in repainting rolling stock.

Year Region Livery       
1948        ER            LNER Teak           
            WR            GWR Chocolate & Cream
            SR            SR Malachite Green   
            LMR          LMS Maroon           
1949        All          BR Carmine & Cream   
1956        ER            BR Maroon           
            WR            Chocolate & Cream   
            SR            Green               
            LMR          BR Maroon           
1960        All          BR Maroon           
1964/65    All          BR Blue & Grey       

British Railways Freight Livery Information

Brown/bauxite wagons/vans indicate that they are fitted (braked).
Grey wagons/vans indicate that they are un-fitted (not braked).

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 06, 2013, 04:43:08 PM
Some small points
- The regulation said that "main line corridor coaches" were crimson and cream, others were crimson only (some oddities like a few crimson corridor full brakes)
- some maroon stock was unlined
- the southern kept many of its coaches green until 1956 by careful revarnishing
- BR(E) also had teak and brown coaches running around into the early 1960s!

BR(W) is a good deal more complicated - they only repainted a few bits of express stock in 1956 and mostly used maroon. There were good reasons for this (same as dropping the cream) - it saved a lot of coats and money. They gave up on trying to keep chocolate/cream special sets in 1962, although a few examples kept chocolate/cream until about 1968.  The GWR150 rake was repainted in chocolate/cream with white roofs from 1985-88 so is another excuse for some of those vehicles.

BR(S) went back to a plain green. BR(E) considered going back to painted teak but presumably the accountants choked on the costs and they went maroon a short while after the others. BR(S) was also unusual in that they didn't just 'drift' to green, they rapidly turned almost everything back the "right" colour.

Also there are at least two versions of Maroon liveries - with or without black ends, and the absence of black ends dates stock to about 1963 when spray painting came in. The end distinction is seen in 1960s SR coaches too (and I'm curious where the 1960 SR Maroon claim comes from ?)

1960 saw another change - the introduction of the yellow stripe for first class and catering red stripe on BR(S). This followed for the yellow stripe onto the other regions, but the red stripe was almost entirely unused there as it was useless against maroon. Instead it took off with blue.

Some vehicles also of course kept pullman livery, including a few non pullman coaches such as the full brake used with the Bournemouth Belle.

Blue/Grey was also not an immediate switch - coaches were being painted maroon into 66/67 because the paint shops needed refitting for the new paint types used for BR blue/grey. Also of course again some coaches were plain blue, including some DMU stock, full brakes and non-corridor stock (including the famous Moorgate suburban rakes). A few rakes of corridor stock ended up plain blue for a while too.

Another weirdness of early BR blue for modelling (and handy when you are short of the right decal) - British Rail also used up old decals so blue with decals for maroon stock was far from unknown.

1984 saw the appearance of the Scotrail lettering (changed to ScotRail in 85), and also Motorail (85).

One thing a lot of modellers overlook is roof colours. In theory its light grey with C&C, a dark shade with maroon, and a blue/grey with BR blue. In practice it was nothing of the sort until the later days of BR blue (early 80s) and up to that point having a set of coaches whose roof colour all matched is highly dubious !

Alan
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 06, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
Thanks Alan - great additional points that I am sure will help many.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Caz on March 06, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
PROTOTYPE INFORMATION

Here is some more information that other may find of interest.

Paddy

Cheers Paddy, a really useful summary, where was you when I needed all that info, looks like I'm now going to have to buy some more coaches to keep my liveries correct.   :beers:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
Post by: Newportnobby on March 06, 2013, 09:39:12 PM
PROTOTYPE INFORMATION

Here is some more information that other may find of interest.

Paddy

Cheers Paddy, a really useful summary, where was you when I needed all that info, looks like I'm now going to have to buy some more coaches to keep my liveries correct.   :beers:

Tsk - any old excuse then :P
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 08, 2013, 01:25:13 PM
CHILDHOOD MEMORIES

Back in my childhood I came across a book called "The Model-Railway Men", written by an author called Ray Pope.  This small hardback book told the story of a boy called Mark who had a large model railway in his loft that was inhabited by a family of railway people who were in correct proportion to the OO models.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/MRM01_zps3709bab9.jpg)
The first book in ther series

Visits to my local lending library allowed me to discover (there was no internet in those days!) that there were a total of 10 books in the series.

Title                      Published
The Model-Railway Men            1970           
Telford and the American Visitor 1970           
The Model-Railway Men Take Over  1971           
Telford's Holiday                1972           
Telford and the Festiniog Railway 1973           
Telford Saves the Line            1974           
Telford goes Dutch                1976           
Telford Tells the Truth          1977           
The Model-Railway Men in America 1978           
Telford and the Prairie Battle    1979           

Each book was charmingly illustrated by Gareth Floyd and was initially published in hardback form.  In recent years I have discovered that some of the books were released in paperback later on.

According to the first book, Ray Pope lived in Bath but I have never been able to find out what happened to him.  Given the story lines in the later books I have often wondered if Ray emigrated to America.

Thanks to the power of Google and eBay I have been able to assemble a complete set of all 10 books in hardback form.  Luckily, I did this 10+ years ago as prices of these books has increased significantly.

Does anyone else remember these books or have insight about what happened to Ray Pope?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 08, 2013, 05:24:33 PM
MK1 TPO COACHES

In my previous posting about MK1 Sleepers I mentioned that Robbies Rolling Stock do a range of replacement printed sides for MK1 TPO coaches.  Robbie provides ten different styles of TPO as follows:

Code        Diagram      Lot          Type        Numbers      Built        Number      Former Coach
TPO1        720        30486      POS        80300-80305 1959        6          N/A       
                        30661      POS        80309-80318 1961        10          N/A       
TPO2        728        30778      POS        80319-80327 1969        9          N/A       
TPO3        729        30779      POS        80328-80338 1969        11          N/A       
TPO4        726        30839      POS        80356-80380 1973        25          Former SK 
                        30900      POS        80381-80395 1977        15          Former SK 
TPO5        723        30489      BPOT        80450-80455 1959        6          N/A       
TPO6        733        30782      BPOT        80456-80458 1968        3          N/A       
TPO7        732        30781      POT        80415-80424 1968        10          N/A       
TPO8        727        30840      POT        80425-80430 1973        6          Former SK 
                        30901      POT        80431-80439 1976        9          Former SK 
TPO9        724        N/A        POT        80407-80410 1966/67    4          Former BSK
TP1O        722        30448      POT        80400-80402 1959        3          N/A       

where...

POS=Post Office Sorting Van
BPOT=Brake Post Office Stowage Van
POT=Post Office Stowage Van

The following image shows the printed sides available with TPO1 being the first and so on...

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/RobbiesTPOs_zps93339c3d.jpg)

Of these I have created versions of TPO1, TPO5, TPO7, TPO9 and TPO10.  The method used to create these coaches was exactly the same as detailed in my MK1 Sleeper posting.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/TPO53_zps65f4139e.jpg)
An example of one of my TPO5 coaches

I have no commercial connection with Robbies Rolling Stock apart from being a satisfied customer.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 09, 2013, 01:39:09 PM
Wish Robbie would get a cutter so he could do proper windows.I find that the one thing that really puts me off his coaches, while the wagons are superb.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 09, 2013, 02:06:14 PM
Wish Robbie would get a cutter so he could do proper windows.I find that the one thing that really puts me off his coaches, while the wagons are superb.

Agreed but at normal viewing distances and in a rake they look good.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 09, 2013, 02:08:49 PM
Agreed but at normal viewing distances and in a rake they look good.

On that point I think "each to his own"

Alan
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 09, 2013, 05:19:25 PM
Agreed but at normal viewing distances and in a rake they look good.

On that point I think "each to his own"

Alan

Indeed Alan, we all have our own level of compromise.  :D

My TPOs will have to do until Dapol or Farish release something better.  Farish's current TPO is lovely but a train it does not make... yet.  Who knows, there may be news on that tomorrow.  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 15, 2013, 12:02:33 PM
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS

Having done more research on the Tartan Arrow trains from the 1960s (information is very scant) it would appear that the trains were made up of two parts.  The first was a number of container bogie wagons followed by CCTs that transported smaller parcles.  Upon arrival in London or Scotland the train was split in two as this is how the purpose built  terminals handled the trains.

As of yet, I have been unable to find any photos that show the container livery.  It would seem that Tri-Ang (Hornby?) did produce the following:

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/TAC_zps7ac6c991.jpg)

Does anyone know if this is accurate?  Is someone knows of an actual photo (Paul's site does not seem to have one) then that would be great.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chetcombe on March 15, 2013, 01:57:54 PM
Can't help you with photos of the containers, but it looks like the new Farish catalog includes a proposed release of the Tartan Arrow CCT:

374-786   BR 4 Wheel CCT Van Tartan Arrow   £ 19.95      

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 15, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
Can't help you with photos of the containers, but it looks like the new Farish catalog includes a proposed release of the Tartan Arrow CCT:

374-786   BR 4 Wheel CCT Van Tartan Arrow   £ 19.95      

Mike

Thanks Mike - appreciate the info.  Already got enough Lima Tartan Arrow CCTs with new wheels etc.  I am sure the GF one will be a lot better but I thought it is a ways off yet.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 26, 2013, 02:00:43 PM
Hi Folks,

Looking for some help with scanning images.  I bought one of Graham Farish's Magnum layout plans back in 2001 which came with a set of back scenes.  The scenes are of the painted type with the buildings based on Farish's Scenecraft sticker/block products of the time.  This morning I have been attempting to scan the images in to my PC and whilst the result is OK it would be good if I can adjust the following...

As you can probably tell I am not a graphics person.  :doh:

I have cut the backscenes in to A4 lengths so that I scan each one in.  They are generic enough to mix and match which is what I intend to do eventually.  I am using my old HP Photosmart C4180 printer and selecting the following options:

*  Output Resolution 300 ppi
*  Restore Faded Color
*  Apply Addaptive Lighting
*  Sharpen
*  Remove Dust & Scratches
*  Scan with higher bit depths (slower scan time)
*  File Type Bitmap Image (*.BMP)

Once scanned I manipulate the image in PaintShop Pro where I apply a soften filter prior to printing.

What I am finding is that the image is printing out rather washed out with what is brown on the original being more red.  I have tried playing around with Brightness/Contrast, Hue, RGB but to no avail.

Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: scotsoft on March 26, 2013, 02:25:53 PM
Hi Paddy,

First off I would have scanned them without adding:

*  Restore Faded Color
*  Apply Addaptive Lighting
*  Sharpen
*  Remove Dust & Scratches

See what a raw scan can produce before adding these effects.

If you have an original scan, look at the results, then you see if you neeed to apply some or all of these effects.
By applying these effects to start off with I don't see how you can make an objective observation.

cheers John.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 26, 2013, 07:27:47 PM
Hi John,

Thanks for the reply - I kind of thought that might be the suggestion.  ;)

Will give this a go and report back.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 26, 2013, 08:04:07 PM
Hi John,

Works much better - just needed the Softener filter and a slight adjustment to the contrast.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: scotsoft on March 26, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
Always start with the basics Paddy, saves you loads of time and effort most of the time  ;)

I'm pleased you have managed to get sorted out  :thumbsup:

cheers John.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 26, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
Always start with the basics Paddy, saves you loads of time and effort most of the time  ;)

I'm pleased you have managed to get sorted out  :thumbsup:

cheers John.

Absolutely, and good advice John.  I would always advise the same but I got "flustered" as graphics are not my thing!  :confused1:

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 31, 2013, 08:08:38 AM
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - NEED ADVICE...

As some of you will know I have been trying to assemble information about the Tartan Arrow trains that ran in the 1960/70s.  I have found out that the trains were made up of two parts, the first being a number of container flats followed by the familiar CCT vans.

HOLLERTON JUNCTION is not big enough to accommodate a full length train but I can represent the Tartan Arrow with a couple of container flats and half a dozen CCTs.

So why do I need advice?  Well, the container flats (I have one so far) are the Graham Farish models with two 30' containers in Freightliner livery.  The idea is to spray the sides and one end in white whilst retaining the printed details on the door and roof.  Basically I end up with an all white container.

Next, I will need to create custom Tartan Arrow decals for the sides and I have never done this before.  Searching the web I came across the decal paper from:

http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk/default.aspx (http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk/default.aspx)

Does anyone have experience of their products?  Are they good?  Also, as the containers have ribbed sides do I need the dry rub on decal paper or the water slide?  I have also heard of DecalSol, DecalFix etc. - do I need these as well?  Finally, what about varnish after the decals have been applied?

As always, thank you for your help.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Pengi on April 01, 2013, 03:52:56 PM
Ive used Crafty and have mixed results with an inkjet. Originally all was super and then I started getting patchy printing I am putting this down to a duff batch of paper (as my ink-jet prints fine on glossy ink-jet paper). The paper comes with  instructions which are easy to follow. You must make sure to seal the ink first before putting it in water. The transfers can take a while to dry after being applied and I've had a couple peel off where they have not dried out properly - so probably best to give them a coat of clear paint afterwards.

The 'white paper' is good but you need to cut round the decal accurately. The 'Clear' paper alleviates the need for accurate cutting but whites just come out as transparent and the brighter colours do not come out very well.

I have not used the paper for locos only for station signs, building signs etc. The signs are pretty tiny though.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 01, 2013, 04:41:26 PM
I've used the laser version and had problems with the toner not sticking to the paper. With a bit of help from crafty I got it to sort of work. The paper goes off quite rapidly it seems and wasn't very fond of Dell toner.

Never tried wrapping it around ridged surfaces with decal solvent and I'd be a bit concerned as to whether it would soften and fit or turn into a nasty mess. I guess you just have to experiment and let us all know  :D

Alan
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 01, 2013, 06:19:12 PM
Thanks both, does not sound like it would be very successful.  Anyone got any other ideas?  I tried emailing Adam at Electra Railway Graphics but got no response.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 01, 2013, 07:02:50 PM
Vinyl definitely wont wrap.. way to thick.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 01, 2013, 07:09:23 PM
Vinyl definitely wont wrap.. way to thick.


Also tried emailing Robbie at Robbie's Rolling Stock but not sure if he is still going?  His web site was last updated in October 2011 - assuming this is his current site...

http://www.robbiesrollingstock.co.uk/ (http://www.robbiesrollingstock.co.uk/)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Pengi on April 01, 2013, 07:41:09 PM
I've just sent an email to Crafty about the issues I've been having - will let you know what they say. It seems that the ink is not adhering to the paper.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 01, 2013, 07:53:17 PM
I've just sent an email to Crafty about the issues I've been having - will let you know what they say. It seems that the ink is not adhering to the paper.

Thanks Pengi - look forward to hearing how you get on.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 08, 2013, 01:21:57 PM
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE STORY CONTINUES...

Got a response from the NRM regarding the TARTAN ARROW trains from the 1960s.  Sadly it would seem that without extensive searching they have little further info.  Indeed, the kind lady at the NRM sent me two photos of the Tri-Ang Hornby OO container that they have on display.

The Tr-Ang container livery seems to be somewhat simplified from the real world B&W (making livery colours hard to match) photos I have been able to obtain.  The OO container is painted all over white (including the roof) and on to this Tri-Ang have "stuck" on a smooth side with the "familiar" TARTAN ARROW branding.  The side graphic fits within the borders of the container i.e. there is a white edge all the way around.

The B&W photos would seem to indicate that this livery is not totally correct.  There is no white border around the side branding.  The livery seems to be:

Sides
Roof
Non-Door End
Door End
My plans is to reproduce the TARTAN ARROW containers using the Graham Farish bogie container wagon with two 30' containers.

http://www.hattons.co.uk/images/products/373450A_1.JPG (http://www.hattons.co.uk/images/products/373450A_1.JPG)

Copying the Tri-Ang version would be quite simple as all that would be needed is to paint the non-door end and the sides white.  Art work can then be created and stuck on - simples.  I could go one step further and paint the roof dark grey as well.  The door ends of the containers will be left unpainted as they have some fine printing that is worth retaining.

As the 30' container is not a direct match for the TARTAN ARROW this will only create a model that has the "feel" of the original.

Thoughts?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 09, 2013, 01:00:02 PM
MORE BREWERY WAGONS

The latest additions to the HOLLERTON JUNCTION stock list are the following DAPOL wagons:

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/WAGONS_zps53836987.jpg)

The pre-installed coal loads were removed last night and will be replaced with barrels of beer at the weekend.  Thanks to Les on the Yahoo N Gauge group for his advice on how to do this.  Whilst the coal loads are not glued in they are firmly inserted and require quite a bit of force to get them out.
 :beers:

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 09, 2013, 01:40:19 PM
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE STORY CONTINUES...

Last night I removed one of the 30' containers from the Graham Farish bogie wagon.  Given the bright Freightliner livery I thought it would need to be primed and then sprayed white.  Using a fibre glass pencil I removed the black printing from the sides and roof (leaving the door detail in tact) and primed the container (Humbrol Number 1).  There was a tiny amount of leakage on to the frame of one of the doors but this can be easily touched up with a spot of Humbrol Matt White.

Once again, thanks to advice from people on this forum and the Yahoo group I created the following artwork in Word and printed it out for a test fit.  The black outline would be removed before printing the real replacement sides.

(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa370/PaddyColeman/TAARTWORD_zps8c7c3c20.jpg)

Note: the above is a graphic and is nowhere near the quality of the printed sides.

The sides were then cut out and test fitted on an original Freightliner container and I have to say it looks good.  The surprising thing is that the livery underneath does not show through.  So it would seem that there is no need to prime/paint the containers prior to fitting the sides.  The only painting required is to the roof which needs to be dark grey.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on April 09, 2013, 03:41:57 PM
Nice solution to the problem, Paddy. Well done :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Pengi on April 10, 2013, 06:50:02 PM
I've just sent an email to Crafty about the issues I've been having - will let you know what they say. It seems that the ink is not adhering to the paper.

Thanks Pengi - look forward to hearing how you get on.

Paddy

They emailed me and asked me to change printer settings. This didn't work so I emailed them back and sent them samples today. Had another email saying they think it might be the paper at fault but will look at the samples I have sent.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 10, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
I've just sent an email to Crafty about the issues I've been having - will let you know what they say. It seems that the ink is not adhering to the paper.

Thanks Pengi - look forward to hearing how you get on.

Paddy

They emailed me and asked me to change printer settings. This didn't work so I emailed them back and sent them samples today. Had another email saying they think it might be the paper at fault but will look at the samples I have sent.

Thanks Pengi.  Hope they can sort it.  As you may have seen I am going down a different approach for my TARTAN ARROW sides.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 15, 2013, 01:16:40 PM
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE STORY CONTINUES...

Looking at B&W photos of the TARTAN ARROW trains from the 1960s and the preservation repaints I am convinced the Lima livery is wrong.  As you may recall, Lima painted the top half of their CCTs (N and OO) a yellow/cream colour.  This does vary from model to model but it is a long way from white.

The photo evidence seems to suggest that the top half was actually white, it may have been slightly off white but you cannot tell.  I emailed Dennis Lovett at Bachmann to see if they had any livery information for their impending CCTs but alas not.

So although it does not match the Lima livery I will go with white as the top half with a black roof.

Thoughts?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: EtchedPixels on April 15, 2013, 05:33:43 PM
I would be very wary of plain white. Firstly nothing white ever stayed white for longer than the press launch secondly you judge colours a lot by contrast. It's surprising how grey the blue/grey livery grey is for example if you see it on its own.

A slightly off white may be safer, However the following is an interesting (albeit model) view which rather supports you assumption.

http://www.settleandcarlisle.co.uk/downloads/content/additional/images/cct_tartan_arrow_small.jpg (http://www.settleandcarlisle.co.uk/downloads/content/additional/images/cct_tartan_arrow_small.jpg)

and a preservation one

http://www.rvp-ltd.org.uk/images/94707a.jpg (http://www.rvp-ltd.org.uk/images/94707a.jpg)


The Lima CCT always looked like a misguided application of crimson/cream.

Also I found this rather fun shot. These are LMS 50ft BGs (much like if not the same as the forthcoming Bachmann ones)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/3551405662/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/3551405662/#)

Might also be worth asking some of the truck types - find out what colour their lorries were painted ?

Alan
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 15, 2013, 08:29:17 PM
I would be very wary of plain white. Firstly nothing white ever stayed white for longer than the press launch secondly you judge colours a lot by contrast. It's surprising how grey the blue/grey livery grey is for example if you see it on its own.

A slightly off white may be safer, However the following is an interesting (albeit model) view which rather supports you assumption.

[url]http://www.settleandcarlisle.co.uk/downloads/content/additional/images/cct_tartan_arrow_small.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.settleandcarlisle.co.uk/downloads/content/additional/images/cct_tartan_arrow_small.jpg[/url])

and a preservation one

[url]http://www.rvp-ltd.org.uk/images/94707a.jpg[/url] ([url]http://www.rvp-ltd.org.uk/images/94707a.jpg[/url])


The Lima CCT always looked like a misguided application of crimson/cream.

Also I found this rather fun shot. These are LMS 50ft BGs (much like if not the same as the forthcoming Bachmann ones)

[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/3551405662/#[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/3551405662/#[/url])

Might also be worth asking some of the truck types - find out what colour their lorries were painted ?

Alan


Hi Alan,

Yes, I saw some of the images you reference as well - definitely a leaning to white.  Totally accept your point about white not staying white though.  As for the LMS BGs it would be good if GF released one in TARTAN ARROW livery as well.  They could even do some containers, pop a Class 45 on the front and bingo!

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on April 15, 2013, 08:33:55 PM
Paddy, haven't read the full thread so don't know if Lillian is going to be cheating with Paul at Hollerton - again? Will there be a branch line to Penny Hasset?
Do like your boards though, wish I'd have gone your route instead of self build.
Regards
David
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 15, 2013, 08:40:20 PM
Ah my secret is out David.  :D

Long live the Archers.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on April 15, 2013, 08:49:43 PM
Can't believe I was the first to pick up on this ..................... can you? Poor old Tom eh? And what will Matt (Chico in another radio drama life) do when he finds out about cheating slapper (she always has been, even in the early 60's)
Been listening since it started, my father would park the car to listen uninterrupted, guess it was about 1956 - Aunt New Zealander was still alive, and Charles Grenville and By Golly It Looks Good And By Golly It Does You Good too!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 16, 2013, 12:41:19 PM
I would be very wary of plain white...
Alan

Hi Alan,

Been looking at a Lima catalogue from the early 1980s and the photos of the OO and N TARTAN ARROW CCTs have a white upper half.  Either the existing Lima CCTs were originally painted incorrectly or I wonder if the paint has yellowed over the years?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 22, 2013, 12:15:29 PM
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE STORY CONTINUES...

Had a rather productive weekend on the TARTAN ARROW front.  The container sides were masked and the roofs sprayed Humbrol matt black.  I have to say the finish is excellent and far exceeded my expectations.

The artwork for the container sides is complete with the white matched to the colour used by Farish on their Freightliner container.  Matching the white colour was not easy until I hit upon the idea of scanning the Farish container to get the RGB values!  Not orthodox but it worked.

The container sides have been printed on to sticky backed paper and will be applied this evening all being well.  I will upload a photo so you can see the final result.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on April 22, 2013, 12:35:48 PM
Paddy, I thank you for the info and on going, but...........my sympathies are with Tom.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 22, 2013, 03:49:17 PM
Paddy, I thank you for the info and on going, but...........my sympathies are with Tom.

Mmm, wonder what I should call the pub at HOLLERTON JUNCTION...

 :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on April 22, 2013, 03:56:42 PM
Platform whatever the number from Brief Encounter but after Lillian and Mr Pratt or just Big Lil's, maybe? Could be the Cat & Fiddle if you liked?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 24, 2013, 09:38:34 AM
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE STORY CONTINUES...

Last night I assembled the first TARTAN ARROW container bogie wagon.  The first wagon was supposed to be a "test" but the end result is rather good (IMHO) and I have learnt a great deal in undertaking this project.

One question though as the roof colour of the container is proving a challenge.  The photos I have show the roof to be "black" so I sprayed them Humbrol Matt Black No. 33.  The finish is excellent but it looks a little too black (if that is not a stupid statement).  I feel that a dark (almost black) grey may be more effective.  Not wishing to buy numerous cans of paint to try and find the right one can anyone recommend a colour?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 24, 2013, 01:44:31 PM
Hi Folks,

Just had to write about some Yard Lamps that I purchased on eBay.  Given the price I did not really expect too much but thought it was worth a go.  The lamps arrived safely in a new jiffy bag and come from Mike Howarth (he of Stanier coach fame).  I did not realise this when I ordered them.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370797327950 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370797327950)

Although the lamps are simple they look very effective IMHO especially after a bit of paint and possible addition of ladders.

Anyway, highly recommended if you are looking for a low cost set of yard lamps (non working).

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 05, 2013, 07:34:11 PM
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE JOURNEY ENDS

After a number of weeks of research and much help and advice from this Forum and the N Gauge Yahoo group I have finally completed my two TARTAN ARROW bogie container wagons.  The livery and wagons selected is the closest match I could establish from the prototype photographs I could obtain.

The Starting Point...

The donor wagon for this project is the Graham Farish 63' Freightliner bogie wagon with two 30' containers (373-450 or 373-450A).  The wagons are not current so I had to seek out a supply of them - this is where the eBay and the NGF are your friends.

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

Removing the Containers from the Wagon

The first step is to remove both containers from the wagon.  This is a little harder than expected as the containers are glued in place.  There is no real reason for Graham Farish to have glued the containers as the small pips give quite a secure hold.

The easiest way to remove the container is to insert a thin flat knife between the bottom of the container and the wagon base.  Next gently twist the knife and the glued pips will give way.  Please note however, that some of the pips will break off.  This is not a major issue as I have found sufficient remain to secure the wagon.  Alternatively, the containers can be glued back in position.

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Removing the Black Print from the Container

After experimenting I found it was best to remove the black printing on the containers.  A fibre glass pen will remove the printing very effectively and does not damage the model.  It is best to wear protective gloves when using the fibre glass pen as the "shavings" can be uncomfortable.

Whilst removing the printing be careful not to damage the end doors as the printing/detail on those is to be retained.  Once complete wash the containers in warm soapy water and place in the airing cupboard to dry.

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Mask the Container Doors

Before priming the containers you will need to mask off the end doors.  I used Frog Masking Tape which I bought in B&Q for a DIY project and this works well.  You only need a couple of inches per container!

http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/decorating-supplies/painting-decorating-tools/tape/-specificproducttype-adhesive_tape/FrogTape-Multi-Surface-Masking-Tape-Green-11507512?skuId=12018218 (http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/decorating-supplies/painting-decorating-tools/tape/-specificproducttype-adhesive_tape/FrogTape-Multi-Surface-Masking-Tape-Green-11507512?skuId=12018218)

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Prime the Containers

Prior to painting the container roofs and attaching the printed sides I primed each one using Humbrol Matt Grey Primer No. 1 spray.  As you can see in the photo I secured an old pen inside the container so I could hold it whilst spraying.  Once again, it is best to wear a pair of disposable gloves as you do not want to get the primer on your hands!  I cannot recommend Humbrol primer enough - it is a great product that goes on well and does exactly what it says on the "tin".

http://www.humbrol.com/paints/acrylic-spray-paint/ad6001-1-grey-primer-150ml-matt-modellers-spray/ (http://www.humbrol.com/paints/acrylic-spray-paint/ad6001-1-grey-primer-150ml-matt-modellers-spray/)

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Paint the Container Roofs Dark Grey

Initially I used Humbrol Matt Black spray to paint the roof but found that although “correct” in terms of livery the result was too black.  After seeking advice on the Yahoo N Gauge group I decided to mix my own dark grey for the roof by mixing Titanium White and Mars Black Acrylic paint.

The first coat was applied quite thinly using a Sable flat brush as recommended by Tony Wright.  This coat was left 24 hours to dry and then was sanded using a very find “Wet and Dry” paper.  The roof was cleaned and then a second coat applied with the Sable once again.

The finish from painting with a Sable brush is nearly as good as spraying.  Whether this would be true on a larger area I am not sure but certainly it works in N Gauge.

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Attach the Printed Container Sides

The artwork for the TARTAN ARROW overlays was created in Microsoft Word scaled to fit the exact size of the container sides.  The lines on the image indicate where the side should be cut out as there are no black lines on the image itself.  The top colour (containing the TARTAN ARROW script) is off white with an RGB value of 255, 255, 248.  The TARTAN ARROW text uses the IMPACT font where as the text beneath is in Arial.

The sides were printed on sticky backed A4 paper via a high quality colour laser printer.  After allowing the sheets to cool off for 24 hours the surface was sprayed with Ghiant Matt Fixative Spray to seal them.  The sheets were allowed to dry thoroughly for a couple of days before any cutting took place.

A brand new scalpel blade was used to cut the sides out and the paper backing removed – you are basically left with a custom fit sticky label.  These were carefully attached to the container sides.

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Reassemble the Wagons

Once the containers are complete they can be reattached to the bogie flat wagons.

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The Finished Train...

This has been a very interesting and rewarding project where I have learnt a number of new skills with the help of people on this Forum and the Yahoo N Gauge Group.  In addition, the prototype research whilst challenging has been fun and I believe allowed me to create a unique train for HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

The finished train below consists of Type 4 (Class 45) D67 “The Royal Artilleryman” followed by two TARTAN ARROW container wagons and a number of matching CCTs.  I have managed to acquire prototype photos indicating such a formation although obviously the real train was much longer.

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Thank you to everyone who has helped and advised me over the last few weeks – it is very much appreciated.

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 06, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
Well done on the completion of your project, Paddy.
The end result looks excellent :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 19, 2013, 12:48:49 PM
HORSE BOXES

The imminent arrival of the new Graham Farish MK1 Horse Box got me thinking about adding another train to the HOLLERTON JUNCTION timetable!  So I bought a couple of second hand Lima Horse Boxes, stripped them down and cleaned the parts thoroughly.  The bodies were then primed (Humbrol Acrylic Spray No. 1) and then repainted using Humbrol Crimson No. 20 (acrylic spray again).  Finally the roofs were primed, one left "as is" and the other painted dark grey to provide variety.

The wagons were then reassembled and the horrible Lima pizza cutter wheels replaced with Graham Farish blackened coach ones.  You can see the end result below.

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These coupled to some of the new Graham Farish MK1 versions and my old Farish "Sir George Widgeon" van should create a varied and interesting rake.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: DCCDave on May 19, 2013, 03:13:57 PM
Nice one Paddy, those are much improved over the Lima originals. And there should be lots coming up on eBoy soon!

Cheers
Dave

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Sprintex on May 19, 2013, 05:11:56 PM
Excellent work on the Tartan Arrow trains. Never heard of them meself but nice to learn something new and see a little project bloom in the process :thumbsup:

The first step is to remove both containers from the wagon.  This is a little harder than expected as the containers are glued in place.  There is no real reason for Graham Farish to have glued the containers as the small pips give quite a secure hold.

I suspect the gluing has been done by a previous owner as many of my s/h container wagons show no signs of ever being glued, and as you rightly say there is no need to unless they've been subjected to excessive rough handling, enough to loosen them ;)


Paul
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 22, 2013, 01:24:41 PM
Hi Folks,

It has been a while since my last post - I have been undertaking a huge clear out as I had amassed so much railway stuff that I was not going to use.

Anyway, along with the clear out I decided to repaint a Graham Farish LMS brake van in to engineering dark grey/black for use with my Dapol Dog Fish and Grampus wagons.  The painting went well but I was left with the task of painting the hand rails white.  I wanted a neat finish was not overly confident of getting this with a paintbrush.

Having slept on the problem I came up with the idea of a white ink pen.  Whilst in Cheltenham I bought a Tipp-Ex "Shake 'n' Squeeze" pen, Pentel Wet Erase Chalk Marker and from Rymans an Edding 780 white paint marker.  I believe you could get very good results with any of these but I chose to use the Edding 780 which has a very fine nib and the paint gives a good solid covering.  Seriously - the results are factory finish.

Details of the pen...

http://www.ryman.co.uk/0845706016/Edding-780-Marker-Pen-Paint/Product (http://www.ryman.co.uk/0845706016/Edding-780-Marker-Pen-Paint/Product)

Hope this helps.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Trev on June 22, 2013, 03:41:47 PM
Did you take any photos of the end result of your conversion, sounds a very useful conversion.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 23, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
Did you take any photos of the end result of your conversion, sounds a very useful conversion.

Hi Trev,

No, not yet.  You do need a steady hand to be fair.  I am quite pleased with the end result and it looks good on my Departmental train.  It will stand muster until someone releases a RTR Shark.  Given that Dapol have released the Grampus and Dog Fish wagons you would think a Shark is an obvious step?  Unless they are being kind and do not want to impact on the NGS kit.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 24, 2013, 03:40:34 PM
BACKSCENES

Over the last couple of months I have been playing around with the backscenes for HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  In the end I decided to go with a mult-layer approach based around the PECO backscene papers.  Over the weekend I completed the backscene for the right hand side of the layout and I am rather pleased with the end result.

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The images above show the completed scene and was created as follows:

1. The PECO backscene paper (medium size) is glued to 1mm mounting card.  A small (and clean!) paint roller is used to ensure a flat, bubble free finish.  I left a 3cm gap below the bottom of the PECO backscene as I wanted the image to be half way up my 30cm backscene board.

2. When dry I carefully cut around the PECO image and painted the exposed edge with black paint.  This is best done with a flat brush - take your time so as not to get paint on to the front image.

3. Next, on the computer various backscene artwork was scanned, edited etc. and printed out (e.g. the arches) and glued on top of the PECO scene to create a multi-layer, pseudo 3D effect.

4. Finally, the completed backscene card was glued to the board.

Just two more sides to do now...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on September 24, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Brilliant and thank you for the ideas, points and reminders (for self) - Again, brilliant effect, best of luck, and please show next stages.
Regards
David
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: CarriageShed on September 24, 2013, 05:19:18 PM
That looks fantastic. Despite being quite a bit of extra work it really does look worthwhile.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 24, 2013, 07:06:05 PM
Thanks Folks - hard work to start with but I have a "process" now.  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 01, 2013, 12:42:07 PM
BACKSCENES PART 2...

It is hard to believe that a month has passed since my initial backscene posting.  I am pleased to report that during that time I have finally finished all three sides!  Whilst the initial right hand side went smoothly I had issues with bubbling in subsequent attempts and this resulted in starting again - beware of PECO backscene papers and PVA glue!

Still I have learnt much (with the help of Noel etc. on the N Gauge Yahoo Group) and found two new adhesive products that I can highly recommend.  The first is the humble Pritt Stick but in its Power guise.  This product has all the benefits of the standard Pritt Stick (minimal mess etc.) but sticks really well.  Full details of Power Pritt Stick can be found here...

http://www.prittworld.co.uk/en/consumer/parents-home/products/glue-products/powerpritt-stick.html (http://www.prittworld.co.uk/en/consumer/parents-home/products/glue-products/powerpritt-stick.html)

The other product is 3M Spray Mount adhesive which is a real life saver.  This product comes in an aerosol can and is spray on to the surface you want to stick.  After 30-45 seconds it will be tacky enough to attach and can be repositioned for up to 12 hours after which the bond is permanent.  You simply do not get any bubbles with the product and in my opinion is worth every penny of the £7 to £10 cost.  Full details can be found here...

http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/EU-HomeLeisure/Home/ProdInfo/MountingFastening/SprayAdhesives/ (http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/EU-HomeLeisure/Home/ProdInfo/MountingFastening/SprayAdhesives/)

So with help of my trusty Pritt Stick, Spray Mount and Paint Shop Pro the other two sides have been finished and look as follows:

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I hope the these posting will give ideas and tips to others so that they may avoid some of my issues.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on November 05, 2013, 05:22:30 PM
Where is Brian's mega dairy?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 05, 2013, 08:47:20 PM
Where is Brian's mega dairy?

In my universe the dairy did not happen! :-)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Pengi on November 06, 2013, 05:49:30 AM
Paddy,

Back scene looks great :thumbsup: and it would be great if you could report back in a few months or so as to whether the back scene is still stuck - this is the proof of the pudding so to speak.

Many of us have initial success only to find problems later on with peeling and bubbling  :worried: but we may not have used the products that you have

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 06, 2013, 08:15:22 AM
Will do Pengi but so far so good.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Only Me on November 06, 2013, 08:31:05 AM
Paddy,

Back scene looks great :thumbsup: and it would be great if you could report back in a few months or so as to whether the back scene is still stuck - this is the proof of the pudding so to speak.

Many of us have initial success only to find problems later on with peeling and bubbling  :worried: but we may not have used the products that you have

My backscene was stuck over a year ago using 3M Spray mount and is still as good as it was all that time ago, problem is the layout is now growing so I need to make a whole new back so it has lasted to retirement so to speak :D
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 06, 2013, 10:33:28 AM
BUFFER STOPS

Today's posting is just a quick shot of the PECO buffer stops that I have assembled for HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  Nothing amazing, just some glue, red and white paint.

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Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on November 06, 2013, 10:48:24 AM
Hi Paddy,
Have you considered running a length of fibre optic cable to the top of each buffer set and illuminate them from a small red LED or similar?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 06, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
Hi Paddy,
Have you considered running a length of fibre optic cable to the top of each buffer set and illuminate them from a small red LED or similar?

No, I like them the way they are and having just fitted them to the track they look good IMHO.  Remember, my objective for HOLLERTON JUNCTION is the "train set" I always wanted.  ;)

The next project is the engine shed lamps which are a bit more involved.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 08, 2013, 07:03:41 PM
LOCOMOTIVE SHED/YARD LAMPS

HOLLERTON JUNCTION locomotive shed (13C) now has a set of six yard lamps!  These were created from a set of Mike Howarth 2mm/N Gauge loco shed - Goods Yard Lamps (code L1) and additional etched brass ladders from CR Signals.

I bought the lamps from Mike via eBay for about £4 but he does not seem to be listing them at present.  I hope this does not mean they are no longer available as they are a lovely little kit.  Each bag contains enough parts to make 12 lamps and consists of the post with hoop and a separate shade.

The picture on the packet (see below) seems to show that the shade should be glued to the bottom of the “blob”¯ within the wire loop.  Personally, I thought it would be better to attach them further up thus allowing the “blob”¯ to represent a bulb.  If you follow this approach you will need to open out the hole in the shade a wee bit using a 1mm drill bit.  A word of warning, the loop at the top of the post is very delicate and I managed to break two trying to push the shades on!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_8084.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=8084)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_8083.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=8083)

Once the shades had been glued I created a small stand for each lamp from 1mm card.  Initially I made these 1cm x 3cm so I had something to hold whilst gluing and painting.  I drilled a hole big enough to take the lamp post and stuck it to the card.  Next I measured 3mm out from the base of the pole as this would mark where my ladder would start.

The ladders are available from CR Signals (http://www.crsignals.com/moreDetails.aspx?id=30 (http://www.crsignals.com/moreDetails.aspx?id=30)) and are very detailed for their size.  I used Xuron track cutters to nip them from the fret and to cut them to length.  Once this was done they were attached with a drop of super glue at the base and the top of the pole.

The lamps were then left for 24 hours before painting.  I mixed my own dark grey acrylic and initially painted each one all over in this colour (including the ladder).  You may find a couple of coats are required to cover the brass ladders.  When the grey had completely dried I painted the wee bulbs with matt white.

Here is a photo of one completed lamp...

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/54/thumb_8085.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=8085)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 12, 2013, 12:11:43 PM
ROADS & FOOTPATHS

Starting to look at roads etc. and I wondered what a suitable width would be.  Now I know it depends on era, location etc. but I found the following link very helpful.

http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/wwwfileroot/legacy/regen/plantrans/DesignAndConstructionOfRoadsAndAccessesToAdoptableStandardsMarch2011.pdf (http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/wwwfileroot/legacy/regen/plantrans/DesignAndConstructionOfRoadsAndAccessesToAdoptableStandardsMarch2011.pdf)

Hope this helps.

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: mika on November 13, 2013, 09:43:37 AM
Hi Paddy,

that's indeed a very helpful document. Not for now, but certainly for future plans  :D :angel:

Thanks a lot!
All the best,
Michael
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 01, 2014, 09:59:24 AM
PECO FENCING

It has been a while since I posted an update - my apologies.   I have been grappling with the scenery on HOLLERTON JUNCTION and learning loads (mostly through my own mistakes!).

One problem I have had is painting the PECO flexible field fencing (NB-45), the paint flakes off when the fencing is moved.  After trial and error I found the following process works:

1) Wash the fencing thoroughly in warm soapy water and leave to dry (airing cupboard is good)
2) Assemble the length of fencing that you need - glue if required
3) Spray the fence length with Humbrol Primer 1 and allow to dry for a couple of hours
4) Spray the fence length with Humbrol Dark Brown 29 and allow to dry for 24 hours

For me the result is still flexible and the paint does not flake off.  The paint is from the Humbrol Acrylic range of aerosol cans.

Hope this helps others.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: scotsoft on March 01, 2014, 10:11:24 AM
Good tip, thank you Paddy  :NGaugersRule:

cheers John.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bealman on March 01, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
That is a good tip, Paddy, thanks for posting!

I have always thought that the flexible plastic of those fences look like exactly that... flexible plastic! That goes for the Ratio stuff too, although at least it's a bit finer than the Peco stuff.

Good tip!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 05, 2014, 10:10:48 AM
SCENERY #1

Although I have not updated the HOLLERTON JUNCTION thread for a while there has been activity on the scenery.  This has meant a lot of mess with glue and scatter but the results are coming along.  I have learnt a great deal (by my standards) and found a deep respect for you scenic artists out there!

As a taster, here is a photo showing the front, right hand corner of HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

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Please excuse the photo - I really need to invest in a better camera.

Now for a tip.  If you are looking for an N gauge road surface then I would highly recommend Dulux Weathershield Textured Masonry Paint in Concrete Grey.  The colour is almost perfect for tarmac and you end up with a slightly rough finish.  In those places where I want a smoother finish I simply rub it gently with some "wet n dry" paper.

Details can be found here:

http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/weathershield-textured-masonry-paint#concrete_grey?hiderelatedproducts=true&product=wtm (http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/weathershield-textured-masonry-paint#concrete_grey?hiderelatedproducts=true&product=wtm)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 10, 2014, 08:03:03 AM
BRUSHES

Last weekend I bought a pack of Humbrol Stipple Brushes after seeing them demonstrated on their YouTube channel.  I have now had a chance to try them and they are really good and at £4 for four excellent value.

Details can be found here:

http://www.humbrol.com/shop/brushes-and-airbrush/brush-packs/ag4303-stipple-brush-pack/ (http://www.humbrol.com/shop/brushes-and-airbrush/brush-packs/ag4303-stipple-brush-pack/)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 17, 2014, 07:36:36 PM
Paddy,

Back scene looks great :thumbsup: and it would be great if you could report back in a few months or so as to whether the back scene is still stuck - this is the proof of the pudding so to speak.
X
Many of us have initial success only to find problems later on with peeling and bubbling  :worried: but we may not have used the products that you have

As requested Pengi.  I can report that I have had no problems with 3M Spray Mount and Prit Stick Power.

Have a great Easter everyone.

Many thanks.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Pengi on April 17, 2014, 08:13:02 PM
Paddy,

Back scene looks great :thumbsup: and it would be great if you could report back in a few months or so as to whether the back scene is still stuck - this is the proof of the pudding so to speak.
X
Many of us have initial success only to find problems later on with peeling and bubbling  :worried: but we may not have used the products that you have

As requested Pengi.  I can report that I have had no problems with 3M Spray Mount and Prit Stick Power.

Have a great Easter everyone.

Many thanks.

Paddy

Excellent - thanks for the update  :)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 03, 2014, 02:20:55 PM
SCENERY #2

Thought it was time to post a few images of the progress I have been making on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

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Photo 1.  Area around the level crossing and consists of some housing and a small industrial area.  We have shops, an electrical retailer and the local taxi company.

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Photo 2.  Plate layers hut with the gang resting outside.

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Photo 3.  Start of Hollerton motive power depot (Shed 13C).

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Photo 4.  Hollerton town gas works and Goods depot.

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Photo 5.  Another shot of the gas works and the start of Hollerton bus depot/garage.

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Photo 6.  St Patrick's which is now open for births, deaths, marriages and regular services.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on May 03, 2014, 02:32:21 PM
Looking real good Paddy, especially the little wood behind the lineside hut.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 03, 2014, 02:47:54 PM
Looking real good Paddy, especially the little wood behind the lineside hut.   :thumbsup:

Thanks Caz - the trees started life as Graham Farish Scenecraft ones from the Poole era.  Must get a better camera though as mine is struggling.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 06, 2014, 12:43:01 AM
BUSES PART 1 - WHAT IS THE LOCATION CALLED?

Having decided that Hollerton requires a local bus service thoughts moved to having a “bus station” and some of those lovely Oxford Diecast buses!  What could be simpler than plonking down a Graham Farish Bus Depot but then I started to research the subject...

Firstly I would say that there is an enormous amount of information about Britain’s bus services on the internet which is very interesting.  However, bus/coach operation seems to be a subject similar in depth to railways!  The more I read the more complex it became and the first question was “what is the bus station actually called?”.

Thanks to the ever helpful folks on the Yahoo N Gauge email group there would seem to be:

DEPOT
GARAGE
STATION
WORKS
YARD
My planned list of features for Hollerton’s bus facilities include:
Given the above I believe Hollerton will be getting a Bus Garage!

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bealman on May 06, 2014, 05:50:18 AM
Yep, I agree with Whiteswan. Coming along very nicely. Are you going to weather the gas holder? Looks very clean!  :beers:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 06, 2014, 11:26:10 AM
BUSES PART 2 - INSPIRATION

Having concluded that Hollerton will have a Bus Garage my thoughts turned to what livery the buses should have.  As a fan of the “On the Buses” series I decided to go for green and Bristol FLF-type Lodekkas like Stan drove.  Hollerton is not set in London so a little modeller’s license is required!

Looking at the buses available from Oxford Diecast I decided to go with their Crosville models as these matched the TV series livery quite well (although Stan and Jack worked for London Transport Luxton District).  You can find lots of information about “On the Buses” here:

http://www.onthebusesfanclub.com/index.html (http://www.onthebusesfanclub.com/index.html)

You can also find lots of inspirational models/kits relating to buses on the Kingsway Models web site:

http://www.kingswaymodels.com/page5.htm (http://www.kingswaymodels.com/page5.htm)

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 08, 2014, 11:57:56 AM
BUSES PART 3 - THE GARAGE

Hollerton Town Council has voted in favour of the development of a bus station.  A piece of land near the gas works and railway depots has been selected and prepared (see below).  Sorry, I could not resist!

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Photo 1.  Proposed location of Hollerton Garage.

Fortunately, I got a great deal on a Graham Farish Scenecraft Bus Depot (42-074) and this will form the basis of Hollerton’s bus garage.  Farish’s Bus Depot is a lovely building and just the right size for the area available although somewhat plain in decoration.  No doubt the lack of “artwork” on the building is to allow one to modify it depending on geographic location and bus company.

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Photo 2. Graham Farish Bus Depot 42-074.

To personalise the building I have created the following artwork that will be printed to the appropriate size and attached.  The only additional item is the “black & white” stripes to go on the entrance pillars.

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Photo 3. Garage artwork.

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 09, 2014, 04:37:50 PM
BUSES PART 4 - THE GARAGE IS DECORATED!

Hollerton Bus Garage has been "decorated" with a number of signs to make it a wee bit more realistic.  Inspiration came from some of the wonderful images on the Kingsway Models web site.

http://www.kingswaymodels.com/page5.htm (http://www.kingswaymodels.com/page5.htm)

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Photo 1 & 2. Crosville Motor Services sign and bus exit.

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Photo 3. Main Hollerton Garage sign.

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Photo 4. Bus entrances.

Personally I think these small additions make a big difference to the look of this building.  As you can see, one of the Bristol Lodekka buses is onsite and the rest of the fleet should arrive soon.

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on May 09, 2014, 05:03:43 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 13, 2014, 03:35:42 PM
BUSES PART 5 - THE FLEET HAS ARRIVED!

The good news is that the coach/bus fleet for Hollerton has arrived.  This means that Blakey, Stan, Jack and the rest of the crews will be able to start work soon.

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Photo 1. Two Bedford OB Coaches and four Bristol Lodekka LD Buses, all in Crosville livery.

It never ceases to amaze me how good Oxford Diecast vehicles are - how do they do them for the price?

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 14, 2014, 10:42:11 AM
BUSES PART 6 - BUS SHELTER AND STOPS

Infrastructure for the Hollerton bus service continues with the completion of a shelter and three stop signs all of which started life as the PECO Model scene bus stops (5192).  The shelter and stop post were all painted in Crosville green (not an easy task as once again the plastic used by PECO does not take paint too well).  As before, I ended up priming the items with Humbrol Acrylic Primer No. 1.

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Photo 1. PECO Model sceene Bus Stops (5192).

The bus shelter was then glazed using clear acetate from from a Metcalfe kit box (reduce, reuse, recycle!).  Once everything was dried I created some additional artwork to represent the “Bus Stop” sign and timetable to attach to each bus stop pole.

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Photo 2. Artwork.

I also printed off a few 1960s bus related posters from the internet to add to the bus garage building.

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Photos 3 & 4. Completed bus shelter and stop signs.

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 14, 2014, 04:08:27 PM
Nice detailing work, Paddy - an inspiration to us all :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 14, 2014, 09:28:40 PM
How annoying...  Another project on HOLLERTON JUNCTION is the resurfacing of the station platforms.  Originally the platforms were made from Metcalfe kits with the supplied "tarmac" tops but I do not like them - a bit too computer generated.

The paving slabs from Metcalfe's PN111 kit seemed to offer a better solution having tested this on one platform.  To complete the other platforms I had to purchase more PN111 kits and this is where the annoyance comes from.  The latest PN111 kits have a very different colour and texture from my original one and means I will have to rebuild platform 1!

Just an FYI for others.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 17, 2014, 02:21:52 PM
HOLLERTON JUNCTION STATION

Whilst waiting for some "bits" to arrive for the bus garage I decided to press on with resurfacing the railway station platforms and building the entrance steps.

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Photo 1.  Rear of the station showing the entrance steps.

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Photo 2. Front of the station with resurfaced platforms.

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Photo 3. Another shot of the entrance steps.

It has been a lot of work but I am very pleased with the end result.  I will probably add a couple of signs/posters to the entrance step wall.

Comments and suggestions gratefully received.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 17, 2014, 03:20:03 PM
That is one very imposing building, Paddy, and much too grand for what I'm modelling :thumbsup:
Is it scratch built? I don't recognise it being from any kit :-\
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: jonclox on May 17, 2014, 03:35:26 PM
Brilliant work throughout
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 21, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
FENCING - ANOTHER ATTEMPT PART 1

Due to the difficulties of painting PECO flexible fencing I bought some Ratio lineside fencing (code 217) to try.  In my opinion the quality of the Ratio fencing is rather poor with flash and a very nasty plastic.  Also, there seems to be no way to join lengths of fencing together unless I have missed something?  At nearly £4 per pack I am not impressed so far.

The next step is to paint the Ratio fencing and then use it around Hollerton Bus Garage.  I will share my findings in due course.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 23, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
FENCING - ANOTHER ATTEMPT PART 2

Painting

As with the PECO fencing the painting process was:
Results

Sadly I have to report that the Ratio fencing takes paint less well than the PECO product and has to be handled with care to avoid chipping.

To join each section of fence together I decided to cut the end fence post in half on each piece prior to gluing i.e. when joined the two halves give the appearance of one post.  Another problem is gluing as I have yet to find a glue that will stick the Ratio (or PECO) fencing together quickly and neatly.  Whatever plastic is used seems to be glue resistant!  Having said that, I have found that Loctite Super Glue Power Flex Gel Control to be about the most effective so far.

The next step before fitting the fencing to HOLLERTON JUNCTION is to touch up the joined posts with dark brown (brush applied this time).

So in summary I would have to say that the Ratio fencing product is no easier to use than the PECO one.  In both cases the fencing looks realistic (for me) when finished but is far from a “Ready to Plant” product.  In fact, I would say the PECO lineside fencing is actually a better quality product overall.

Many thanks

Paddy



Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Only Me on May 23, 2014, 10:23:07 AM
I've never had any of these issue Paddy, and TBH never bothered to undercoat either... I used Tamiya Acrylic through my airbrush and I use ROCKET Super 16 Second glue to join them together without issue.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 23, 2014, 10:28:29 AM
I've never had any of these issue Paddy, and TBH never bothered to undercoat either... I used Tamiya Acrylic through my airbrush and I use ROCKET Super 16 Second glue to join them together without issue.

Blimey, I must be unlucky!  I only undercoat as when I applied just the top coat on the PECO fencing the paint literally fell off.  I suppose it could be a Humbrol Acrylic problem although in every other use I have found them to be excellent.  Possibly a real airbrush is more "gentle" in the paint application than an aerosol?

Sounds like I need to get some of the Rocket glue - I will add that to my shopping list.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 23, 2014, 10:36:22 PM
I've never had any of these issue Paddy, and TBH never bothered to undercoat either... I used Tamiya Acrylic through my airbrush and I use ROCKET Super 16 Second glue to join them together without issue.


Can you please identify which glue you mean...

http://www.deluxematerials.com/index.html (http://www.deluxematerials.com/index.html)

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 25, 2014, 06:06:00 PM
BUSES PART 7 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

Work on Hollerton Garage continues with the installation of a bus/coach parking area, footpaths, shelter and perimeter fencing (the painted Ratio product).

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Photo 1.  Cobbled area for parking buses on.

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Photo 2. Pavements around the bus station and gasworks (note the bus shelter).

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Photo 3. Ratio fencing installed around the bus garage perimeter.

The next step is to add additional ground cover and foliage around the fencing to embed it in the ground.  Once this is complete the buildings can be added and the area finished off.

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 30, 2014, 08:09:25 PM
BUSES PART 8 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

The Ratio fencing has been installed and embedded in to the ground (see photo 1).

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Photo 1. Finished fencing.

The rear wall of the bus garage also looked rather bare so I downloaded some posters from the web and printed them on photo paper.  I am really pleased with the quality of the printed images although I am not sure a bus company would allow posters for trains and planes!

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Photo 2. Rear wall of the bus garage with posters added.

Work has now started on creating an area where the buses can be refueled.  I had no idea what a 1960s petrol/diesel pump looked like so once again Google was my friend and I found:

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/avery-hardoll.htm (http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/avery-hardoll.htm)

This site gave me some basic dimensions and allowed me to create some suitable artwork for the pumps.  I will show the results of my "modelling" in the next post.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 31, 2014, 07:50:14 AM
BUSES PART 9 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

Here is another photo showing the bus parking area complete with storage building and three buses resplendent in their Crossville livery.  The storage building is an old Graham Farish Scenecraft kit that I have weathered to match the main bus garage building.

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Photo 1. Completed parking area.

As mentioned yesterday the next project is to build some petrol pumps where the buses can be fuelled.  Using the dimensions of the Avery-Hardoll Model S I calculated the pumps should be about 5mm x 12mm x 3mm (wxhxd).  To make the body of the pumps I cut out 10 pieces of 1.5mm card so that I could make 5 pumps (1 is a spare for testing purposes!).

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Photo 2. Cardboard pieces that will form the pump bodies.

The pieces were then stuck together with PVA glue and allowed to dry for a few hours.

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Photo 3. Cardboard pieces stuck together.

The bodies were then primed (by brush) with Humbrol Grey Primer Matt 1 (another excellent product) and when dry lightly sanded with P2000 “wet ‘n’ dry” paper to produce a smooth surface.

A number of the period photographs show that pumps tended to have an illuminated “ball” on top of the pump with the oil company name on it.  After some thought I decided to represent these “balls” by using painted Berry pins as can be seen in photo 4.

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Photo 4. Primed pump bodies and Berry pins.

My initial plan was to print artwork that would completely cover the cardboard bodies but a test build did not look good enough (for me).  Therefore I decided to paint the pump bodies all over with Humbrol Red Matt 60 and to create artwork for the front and rear.

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Photo 5. Pump bodies painted red.

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Photo 6. Front and rear artwork for the petrol pumps.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on May 31, 2014, 08:41:23 AM
Looking very nice Paddy, nice bit of scratch building and I think the graphics will set them off perfectly, very inventive.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Malc on May 31, 2014, 09:00:34 AM
Looking good Paddy, are you just doing Shell, or will BP make an appearance?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 31, 2014, 09:59:01 AM
Thanks Cal - appreciate your kind comments.

Malc - just shell for the bus garage.  The artwork for the logo is really good for N gauge as it moved to red square background in the 1960s so easy to cut out!  ;)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 31, 2014, 10:31:03 AM
BUSES PART 10 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

This morning I have been seeing how the bus garage building fits in to the area.  Photo 1 shows the results so far.

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Photo 1. Garage building in situ.

The artwork for the petrol pumps have been printed, cut out and stuck to the front and rear of the bodies.  I used 120gsm matt photo paper and I have to say the results are very crisp for a home printer.

When the glue was dry I applied two coats of Humbrol Matt Cote to protect the pumps and to ease later touching in of the paper edges.  Matt Cote seems to be a very good product although it does smell rather pungent!

By the way, why would you use Humbrol Matt Clear over Humbrol Matt Cote?  On the face of it they seem to do the same job.  No doubt I am missing something?

The heads of the Berry pins were painted with Humbrol Acrylic White Gloss 22.  It may be just me, but the Acrylic White Gloss did not cover very well despite a lot of mixing.  In total I must have applied five coats to get even coverage on the Berry pin heads.

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Photo 2. Assembled petrol pumps and painted Berry pins.

The next step is to carefully paint the edges of the paper with Humbrol Red Matt as they do stick out in their original white.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: jonclox on May 31, 2014, 11:52:52 AM
The bus garage and yard look a treat and the petrol pumps will set it off perfectly  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 04, 2014, 02:34:04 PM
BUSES PART 11 - GARAGE DEVELOPMENTS

I have to finished off the petrol pumps for Hollerton Bus Garage.  The photo below is a bit cruel as they look quite good in reality (well to my eyes!).  I am now working on a fuelling station for the pumps to sit on along with oil cans etc.

Originally there were five pumps but only four made it through to completion - this is more than I expected!

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Photo 1. Completed petrol pumps.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 04, 2014, 03:42:19 PM
To my eyes they look pretty damned good, Paddy :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: rhysapthomas on June 04, 2014, 04:22:48 PM
Those look very very good
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 04, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
Thanks Chaps.  The white balls on the top are probably a little too big but using Berry Pins seemed the simplest option.  Mind you, if you look at period photographs the illuminated signs on top of the pumps were large.  The fuelling station for the buses is almost complete so I will post a couple of photos soon.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 04, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
BUSES PART 12 - FINISHED (WELL ALMOST!)

I am pleased to report that the Inspector, Stan, Jack and the other bus crews at Hollerton Garage can begin services now.  Today saw the completion and installation of the bus fuelling station (see photos below).

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Photo 1. Completed fuelling station.

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Photo 2. Completed fuelling station with a bus to give an indication of scale.

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Photo 3. Hollerton Garage showing installed fuelling station.

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Photo 4. Hollerton Garage showing installed fuelling station.

There is still fine detailing to do but the garage area is now complete so work can move on to the next section of HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

Some of you may already know the following but for those that do not...  I would like to recommend Deluxe Materials Rocket Card Glue.  I bought my bottle a few months ago and it has sat unused in my modelling box since (I forgot about it).  I used it today to assemble the fuelling station and it is an amazing product - it does far more than just glue cardboard together.  I would liken it to a cross between PVA and SuperGlue.

Another tip.  I have struggled with placing N Gauge people on the layout as they are so tiny.  The front of the Metcalfe kit packets has a clear window made from accetate and this can be used to make clear “feet” for the figures.  I glue the figures to the acetate using the Rocket glue and when dry trim to size.  The base is almost invisible to the naked eye and the figures stand up of their own accord.

This has been a great project and I am really pleased with the outcome.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on June 04, 2014, 05:32:28 PM
They look superb Paddy and very realistic but if I remember correctly (well, it was a long time ago!) the Shell pumps actually had something on top that looked like a shell and it was yellow in colour, could be wrong and my mind playing tricks.   :-[
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 04, 2014, 05:36:41 PM
They look superb Paddy and very realistic but if I remember correctly (well, it was a long time ago!) the Shell pumps actually had something on top that looked like a shell and it was yellow in colour, could be wrong and my mind playing tricks.   :-[


You are right Caz but alas I could not think of anyway to represent the shell in N Gauge so I went for a "generic" white blob that gives the impression.  As for the colour of the shell it did indeed come in yellow but also white.  My pumps are based on the following and there are prototype phots on the internet too.

http://www.osbornsmodels.com/harburn-hamlet-ss-387-1960s-shell-petrol-pumps--base-20959-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/harburn-hamlet-ss-387-1960s-shell-petrol-pumps--base-20959-p.asp)

Kind regards

Paddy


Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 15, 2014, 08:46:24 PM
Just to reassure everyone, I have not gone away - it is just too hot for modelling.

Normal service will be resumed in due course! :-)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: joe cassidy on July 15, 2014, 08:56:25 PM
Are you still living in the UK ?

Time to drink lager instead of bitter !

Best regards,


Joe
in France - still winter here
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 15, 2014, 08:58:03 PM
Are you still living in the UK ?

Time to drink lager instead of bitter !

Best regards,


Joe
in France - still winter here

Yes I am Joe.  A Stout drinker myself! :-)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Avis1434 on July 19, 2014, 04:02:28 PM
Hi Paddy

Have much enjoyed reading up on your progress to date and the first class results produced.

Keep up the good work and I look forward to following future posts and helpful pictures. :)

The glue you mention is in fact "ROKET" card glue for those who are trying to find it.

Cheers

Murray
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 19, 2014, 06:25:03 PM
Hi Paddy

Have much enjoyed reading up on your progress to date and the first class results produced.

Keep up the good work and I look forward to following future posts and helpful pictures. :)

The glue you mention is in fact "ROKET" card glue for those who are trying to find it.

Cheers

Murray

Thanks Murray.  I appreciate your kind words.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 22, 2014, 03:45:10 PM
SUMMER IS OVER - TIME TO GET MODELLING!

The temperature in my study is now returning to more normal levels so thoughts are returning to HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  My last serious modelling post was back in June so it has been nearly three months since the paint pots came out!

To ease myself back in gently I decided to create two Loading Gauges for use in the freight sidings of HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  My understanding is that the loading gauges were placed at the throat of the sidings just before they joined the main line - is that correct?  On a similar vein, did engine sheds have loading gauges to ensure tender coal loads were within gauge before departure?

My starting point was two Hornby Minitrix Loading Gauges as supplied with their Goods Shed.  These models are made of plastic and reasonably detailed for their age.  More importantly (for me) they are made from plastic and therefore robust should they be knocked during cleaning for example.

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Photo 1. Hornby Minitrix Loading Gauges as supplied.

After cleaning the loading gauges with warm soapy water I left them to dry for 24 hours.  The next step was to spray the gauges with Humbrol Acrylic Grey Primer No. 1 and allow them to dry.  As can be seen from photo 2 the end result was very good.

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Photo 2.  Primed loading gauges.

Unfortunately this is where I got over confident!  My next task was to spray the models with Humbrol Acrylic Matt White No. 34 and this is where the problems started.  For some reason I ended up with an orange peel effect on the white paint.  The primer coat was not like this so I assume it is something I have done?  Could anyone advise me what might have gone wrong?  Is it a bad aerosol can?  Had I not shaken the can enough?  Was it temperature or something else?

Anyway, I sanded the white paint using fine papers until I got a better finish (not perfect by any stretch) and then brush painted the gauges using Matt White Acrylic.  The end result is acceptable given these gauges were probably quite rough in real life.

Finally, I masked off the top of each gauge and then painted the bottom matt black using Revell Aqua Color Acrylic No. 8.  What a lovely paint this is and I can highly recommend its use.

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Photo 3. Finished loading gauges.

So there we have it, two completed loading gauges for HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  A task which I thought would take a couple of days has ended up consuming nearly a week!  Still, all good experience.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 27, 2014, 08:29:42 PM
Hi Folks,

I would like to paint a couple of wagons in BR bauxite but from what I can see Humbrol does not do a spray in this colour.

Any suggestions?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Only Me on September 27, 2014, 08:30:39 PM
Tamiya acrylcic, or revell... Just reading your post if you mean a can i think you will be unlucky and need an airbrush.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 27, 2014, 11:34:07 PM
Thanks Only Me.  I was hoping to avoid the need for an airbrush.

Anyone tried the Humbrol 160 Red Brown Matt colour:

http://www.humbrol.com/paints/spray-paints/acrylic-spray-paints/160-german-camouflage-red-brown-matt-150ml-acrylic-spray-paint.html (http://www.humbrol.com/paints/spray-paints/acrylic-spray-paints/160-german-camouflage-red-brown-matt-150ml-acrylic-spray-paint.html)

If so, does it work as a bauxite equivalent?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 28, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
Hi Folks,

Did some more testing today with regards to Humbrol equivalent to BR bauxite.  The following two colours do not look too bad match:

http://www.humbrol.com/70-brick-red-matt-12ml-acrylic-paint.html (http://www.humbrol.com/70-brick-red-matt-12ml-acrylic-paint.html)

http://www.humbrol.com/186-brown-matt-12ml-acrylic-paint.html (http://www.humbrol.com/186-brown-matt-12ml-acrylic-paint.html)

Comments?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 04:21:16 PM
Humbrol Rust (Matt 113 enamel) is quite a good match for faded BR Bauxite. Halford's Plastic Primer Red aerosol spraypaint (acrylic, I think) is good for Early BR Bauxite with thinned matt black painted over it it looks remarkably like Late BR Bauxite. (See the two ex-LNER brake vans on my Cant Cove thread.)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 28, 2014, 10:12:04 PM
Humbrol Rust (Matt 113 enamel) is quite a good match for faded BR Bauxite. Halford's Plastic Primer Red aerosol spraypaint (acrylic, I think) is good for Early BR Bauxite with thinned matt black painted over it it looks remarkably like Late BR Bauxite. (See the two ex-LNER brake vans on my Cant Cove thread.)

Thanks Chris.  My test of Humbrol 70 & 186 has now dried and I think a mixture of the two will give me a good result.

I will report my results in due course.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 28, 2014, 10:19:21 PM
My pleasure, Paddy. Looking forward to your results but those two colours should be a good combination.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 29, 2014, 11:06:16 AM
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 1 - THE PLAN!

As many of you know, there is no RTR version of the British Railways Prestwin wagons from the 1960s (see photo 1).  This does surprise me as it has been a regular model in OO since the days of Hornby Dublo.  Having said that, I am sure they will be announced not long after I have completed this project!  :)

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Photo 1. Hornby OO Prestwin wagon.

Looking at was available I decided to make my starting the point the old Lima twin silo tank wagon from the 1970/80s (see photo 2).  Whilst these are based on a European prototype I believe something “useful” could be made of them with a repaint.

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Photo 2. Lima Twin silo tank wagons.

The Lima silo wagons seem to be very popular and fetch quite high prices on eBay - maybe I am not the only one with this idea?  Luckily I came across two last weekend in good condition for a very reasonable price of £4.50 each.

So my plan is as follows:

1. Disassemble the wagons in to their individual parts
2. Thoroughly wash and dry the parts
3. Remove the Blue Circle transfers from the tank bodies
4. Prime the tank bodies
5. Paint the tank bodies in BR bauxite
6. Look at whether it is feasible to add a walkway on the tank tops
7. Paint the axel boxes yellow
8. Reassemble the wagons
9. Fit replacement Graham Farish blackened wheels

I am pleased to say that both wagons came apart very easily as Lima had not used any glue in their construction.  To remove the Blue Circle transfers I used very fine emery paper and a glass fibre pen (see photo 3).

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Photo 3. Stripped and cleaned tank bodies.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
Looking good, Paddy. Maybe you would need to mount the tanks on a shortened chassis? Would the Peco kit 10ft. chassis be the correct length?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 29, 2014, 11:33:42 AM
Looking good, Paddy. Maybe you would need to mount the tanks on a shortened chassis? Would the Peco kit 10ft. chassis be the correct length?

Hi Chris,

You raise a good point.  Looking at prototype photos of Prestwin wagons they seem to come in both long and short chassis form.  Whilst the Hornby model has the short version there would seem to be nothing wrong with retaining Lima's original chassis (well apart from the fact that the whole model is a fudge!). :)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 11:36:02 AM
I didn't realise, Paddy, that there were longer chassis versions, too. In that case, why not reuse the Lima chassis. 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 29, 2014, 11:37:58 AM
I didn't realise, Paddy, that there were longer chassis versions, too. In that case, why not reuse the Lima chassis. 8-)

Thanks Chris - you know what I will. :)

BTW, I have been reading your own layout topic - you have done some excellent work.  I especially like the blue brewery wagons.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 11:50:24 AM
Thanks, Paddy. Painting wagons is very restful and enjoyable. The next step is print out the very small signs, one on each side, and glue them on.

Cant Cove station is at the end of the private branchline from the Castle Estates (producing cattle, horses, milk, meat, eggs, grain, beer, stone, timber) where the Castle Brewery, part of Trevelver Castle, is also located and both family-owned companies have their own liveried wagons, some, older well-weathered ones (mainly) for internal use and newer ex-works ones for running on the BR network.

The former Trevelver Castle Brewery, and justly famous for its award-winning Cornish ales, has also
invested in continuing services both passenger and freight to distribute its local ales (via Cant Cove yard), as well as having a reciprocal arrangement with Messers Bass Worthington to distribute theirs locally for all the thirsty summer tourists from the Midlands and North! (So, I needed some Trevelver Castle Ales 4w vans to go with my Bass and Worthington ones!)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 29, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
I agree Chris - I enjoy painting wagons too.  My results are definitely improving especially since I took Tony Wright's (British Railway Modelling) advice and use good quality sable brushes.  Also, I cannot over state how important preparation is before painting - I almost always use Humbrol Acrylic Matt Grey Primer as my base coat.

Best

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 29, 2014, 02:57:36 PM
I certainly agree with you about the importance of good brushes. I'd add get them as small as possible as in N Scale a lot of painting is of very small items. I hardly ever use my medium-sized brushes. (I do have larger ones for painting scenery though.)

I use either Tamiya Matt Grey undercoat or Halford's Matt Grey Plastic primer, both spray cans. Definitely does make a big difference.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 30, 2014, 01:22:34 PM
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 2 - PAINTING

The next step was to prime the silo tanks using Humbrol Acrylic Matt Grey Primer (No. 1) to ensure a good base for the top coat (see photo 4).  No doubt I have said this before but I cannot praise Humbrol primer highly enough.

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Photo 4. Primed silo tanks.

After trying out a number of different colours to represent BR bauxite I decided to use Humbrol Enamel Matt Brown (No. 186).  To my eyes this matt brown paint is a good match to other bauxite wagons I have although it does look lighter in photo 6 than in reality.  The paint was applied with a good quality flat sable brush and the results are great.  I genuinely cannot tell the silos have been brush painted.  Looks like more excellent advice from Tony Wright of British Railway Modelling fame.

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Photo 5. Painted silo tank.

The Lima chassis is a good model (although no doubt it is generic) and after careful cleaning I have decided to leave them unpainted.  I will pop a drop of yellow paint on each axel box but overall the plastic looks too shiny to accept paint.

However, the wagon weights that Lima used are basically blackened metal and were a bit too shiny/obvious for my liking.  A quick spray on the visible side with Humbrol Acrylic Matt Black (No. 33) has toned them down (see photo 6).

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Photo 6. Wagon weights.

Looking at images of Prestwin wagons on the internet a number of them seemed to have silver ladders.  I have painted mine with Humbrol Acrylic Silver (No. 11) and you can see the result in photo 7.  At this stage the ladders look a bit shiny so I may choose to repaint them in bauxite or black when I get to the assembly stage - what do others think?

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Photo 7. Painted ladders.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 01:30:17 PM
Looking good, Paddy. If the ladders look too shiny you can drybrush them with matt black or dark grey and then use matt varnish?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: DCCDave on September 30, 2014, 01:31:26 PM
Looking at images of Prestwin wagons on the internet a number of them seemed to have silver ladders.  I have painted mine with Humbrol Acrylic Silver (No. 11) and you can see the result in photo 7.  At this stage the ladders look a bit shiny so I may choose to repaint them in bauxite or black when I get to the assembly stage - what do others think

Perhaps stipple with (a little) rust and then a wash of dilute black to tone them down. They should be shinier in the centre of each rung.

Cheers
FDave
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 30, 2014, 01:46:18 PM
Thanks Chris and Dave - good suggestions.  I will assemble one wagon with the ladders "as is" to see what it looks like.  It may be one of those things which works in the overall effect.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 30, 2014, 04:04:44 PM
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 3 - CHASSIS

On closer inspection I noticed that one of the couplers had a rusty spring and needed to be replaced.  Now I do not know about everyone else but I always get a sinking feeling when it comes to replacing those tiny springs!

Luckily for me the whole process went very well and I have to say that Lima’s coupler pocket design is very good.  I simply prised off the metal cover, removed the old spring, cleaned the pocket and fitted a new spring.  What amazed me was that the spring clipped on to the end of the Lima coupler so it did not “ping” off in to the stratosphere. :)

The next job was to paint the axel box covers with yellow paint to indicate that roller bearings are fitted.  This took a couple of coats as the plastic does not like paint very much.

Finally, a new set of replacement Graham Farish 3 hole disc wagon wheels (379-410) were fitted to each wagon.  I assume these are the correct pattern as spoked and coach wheels did not sound right?  To get the wheels to run freely I had to open out the plastic bearings with a 1mm micro drill and of course then check the back-to-back measurements.

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Photo 8. Completed chassis with painted axel boxes and new wheels.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: jd on September 30, 2014, 05:38:40 PM
Looking good paddy. I think the wheels look better then the original ones. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on September 30, 2014, 07:06:20 PM
Looking good paddy. I think the wheels look better then the original ones. :thumbsup:

Thanks JD although my photo does not do them justice.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on September 30, 2014, 07:29:07 PM
I THINK that disc wheels would be suitable for these wagons, Paddy. If you look online I'm sure you can find some photos?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 01, 2014, 09:54:25 AM
I THINK that disc wheels would be suitable for these wagons, Paddy. If you look online I'm sure you can find some photos?

Hi Chris,

I think you are right.  Also, I added a second cote of Humbrol Matt Brown to one of the silo tanks and the bauxite effect is much better.  I will therefore do the same to the other silo body.

The next task is to apply a protective coat of Humbrol Matt Cote varnish to the bodies.  I have never used this Matt Cote before so this will be a learning exercise!  :worried:

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2014, 02:48:58 PM
Hi Paddy,

Yes, a second coat should improve the 'depth' of the colour. Try out the Humbrol matt varnish on a painted scrap piece of plastic as my Humbrol matt varnish dried semi-gloss!

I look forward to seeing the photo. updates.

Kind regards,
Chris
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 01, 2014, 06:46:41 PM
Mmm, not impressed with Humbrol Matt Cote.  I watched the video demonstration on Humbrol's website and followed their recommendations.  I mixed some Humbrol enamel thinners with Matt Cote and applied it with a new soft brush.  I got a semi gloss and uneven finish!  Both bottles were brand new?

Not sure what to do now.  Any advice?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2014, 06:50:03 PM
Oh dear, Paddy. I did warn you. 8-( Where did you apply it?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 01, 2014, 06:52:38 PM
Oh dear, Paddy. I did warn you. 8-( Where did you apply it?

To one of the silo bodies Chris.  I applied another coat of matt brown and I seem to be back where I started.  May be I should get a bottle of Humbrol Matt Clear?

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 01, 2014, 07:00:04 PM
I was hoping that you would be able to paint over it, Paddy. If you do get a bottle of Humbrol Matt Clear try it out, first, on a piece of painted scrap plastic or plasticard. If you have a plastic model kit shop nearby maybe they have a similar product from Tamiya? I find their products very high quality although I have not bought any Tamiya matt varnish.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 05, 2014, 12:14:05 PM
Hi Folks,

Well the varnishing of the two silo tanks has been a complete disaster.  I have tried Humbrol Matt Cote and Humbrol Matt Varnish spray and both gave poor results.  I have managed to remove most of the residue using thinners and cotton buds and next I will gently sand the surfaces smooth again.

As recommended I have ordered a can of Testors Dullcote and I will give this a go once the new top coat has thoroughly hardened.

Many thanks for everyone's help and advice.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: NeMo on October 05, 2014, 12:30:37 PM
Not sure what to do now.  Any advice?

Something I learned the hard way was this: don't apply transfers to matt paints or varnish. Paint the model. Varnish (ideally with an airbrush to be honest) with gloss. Apply transfers (and weathering if necessary). Then apply matt varnish.

Apparently, matt varnish is matt because it scatters light, and it does that by being rough. So if you add anything to matt varnish, it becomes lumpy. Transfers trap air, for example. It's also a lot easier to slide transfers around on gloss surfaces than matt ones. That's because gloss varnish is shiny because it's smooth. So adding matt varnish has to be the last step.

Done this way, I've found the Humbrol products you mention work just fine. (Or at least, any shortcomings are clearly mine not the products!)

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 05, 2014, 01:29:35 PM
Not sure what to do now.  Any advice?

Something I learned the hard way was this: don't apply transfers to matt paints or varnish. Paint the model. Varnish (ideally with an airbrush to be honest) with gloss. Apply transfers (and weathering if necessary). Then apply matt varnish.

Apparently, matt varnish is matt because it scatters light, and it does that by being rough. So if you add anything to matt varnish, it becomes lumpy. Transfers trap air, for example. It's also a lot easier to slide transfers around on gloss surfaces than matt ones. That's because gloss varnish is shiny because it's smooth. So adding matt varnish has to be the last step.

Done this way, I've found the Humbrol products you mention work just fine. (Or at least, any shortcomings are clearly mine not the products!)

Cheers, NeMo

Thanks NeMo and just to be clear, I am not blaming the Humbrol products - I am sure it is me! :(

Mind you, I was simply applying varnish to the Humbrol matt enamel top coat - there are no transfers.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 05, 2014, 02:41:43 PM
I can only repeat that my experience of Humbrol Matt Varnish was that it was NOT matt.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 06, 2014, 01:33:09 PM
Hi Folks,

The silo tanks were sanded smooth using various grades of "Wet 'n' Dry" and a fiber glass pen.  A new coat of Humbrol Enamel Matt Brown has been applied to each and this will be allowed to dry for 24 hours.  If required a further coat will be applied.

The walkways that are to be attached on top of the silo tanks have also had a coat of matt brown applied.

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 06, 2014, 01:57:56 PM
I do hope that all will go well this time, Paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 06, 2014, 01:59:43 PM
I do hope that all will go well this time, Paddy.

Fingers crossed Chris.  I will report back on my results with Testors Dullcote!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 06, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
Hi Folks,

I have bought one Winsor & Newton flat sable paint brush and the results it gives are excellent.  However, anyone who has bought these brushes know they are EXPENSIVE.  Now I know you tend to get what you pay for but I was wondering if anyone has tried the Humbrol Sable brushes (their Detail and Palpo range)?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 07, 2014, 04:30:44 PM
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 4 - THE SILO SAGA CONTINUES...

Applied a second (make that probably fourth!) coat of Humbrol Enamel Matt Brown to the silo tanks today.  I was using stout card for the walkways but this does not seem to work very well so I need a different solution.  Something like stout plasticard - I will have a look around the house (reduce, reuse, recyle)!  :D

Two cans of Testors Dullcote arrived in the post.  I bought them from:

http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/ (http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/)

the total cost was £15.32 including delivery.  Please be aware that the cans are rather small (about half the height of the Humbrol cans) so they better be good.

More to follow...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on October 07, 2014, 05:12:44 PM
I was wondering if anyone has tried the Humbrol Sable brushes (their Detail and Palpo range)?

I have some of the Humbrol detail brushes and I find them ok, nice and stiff which is what you needy for tiny fiddly details.
I'm no expert though  :(
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 07, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
I hope it all goes well, Paddy. Looking forward to  :photospleasesign: of the work in progress.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 07, 2014, 07:29:43 PM
I was wondering if anyone has triged the Humbrol Sable brushes (their Detail and Palpo range)?

I have some of the Humbrol detail brushes and I find them ok, nice and stiff which is what you needy for tiny fiddly details.
I'm no expert though  :(

Nor me Wookie.  I might buy a set of the Humbrol brushes at the weekend if I see some.

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 07, 2014, 07:32:23 PM
I hope it all goes well, Paddy. Looking forward to  :photospleasesign: of the work in progress.

Hi Chris,

Will probably try the Dullcote tomorrow and post photos then (assuming success this time).

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 09, 2014, 01:01:21 PM
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 5 - WALKWAYS

As can be seen in photo 9 the Prestwin wagons have a walkway on top of the silo tanks.  My initial attempt at creating these was with stout card but this was not strong enough.

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Photo 9. Example of Hornby Prestwin wagon.

Whilst looking through my scrap box I came across a sheet of white A4 plasticard that is about 1mm thick.  I had already worked out that the walkway needed to be 40mm x 15mm and have a path width of 3mm all around.  To clear the piping on top of the tanks two small cut outs are needed half way along (6mm x 1mm).

This is the first time I have used plasticard and I am rather impressed by how easy it is to work with.  Photo 10 below shows the walkways with a couple of coats of Humbrol Enamel Brown Matt paint applied.

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Photo 10. Platsticard walkways.

As can be seen, I have chosen to paint my walkways bauxite rather than silver as this seems to be the predominant colour of the real wagons.  There is some cleaning up to do in certain places but overall I think they will work well.

As for the silo tanks, I have not tried the Testors varnish yet as it is rather cold/windy at present.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 09, 2014, 09:35:18 PM
Hi Folks,

Finally managed to pluck up enough courage to try the Testors Dullcote varnish.  Before spraying the silo tanks I applied Dullcote to a scrap piece of plastic to ensure all was well.  I am pleased to report that both tank bodies now have Dullcote applied with no problems!

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 09, 2014, 09:47:26 PM
Thanks for this update, Paddy. That's very good news as I want to coat my over-glossy Castle Brewery and Castle Estates' wagons and vans with a matt finish.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 09, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
Thanks for this update, Paddy. That's very good news as I want to coat my over-glossy Castle Brewery and Castle Estates' wagons and vans with a matt finish.

Thank you Chris as it was your suggestion to test before applying Dullcote to the actual models!  :thumbsup:

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 09, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
I learnt that the hard way, Paddy, by painting the roof of my first ex-LNER 'Wadebridge' brake van with Humbrol Matt Varnish that left a GLOSSY finish and had to be repainted.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on October 10, 2014, 08:47:15 AM
Thanks everyone for all the advice re paints and brushes etc. All useful stuff.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 10, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 6 - FINISHED!

Finally after a lot of frustration and much help from people on NGF and the N Gauge Yahoo group I have finished the Prestwin wagons!

Although they are not an exact match to the British Railways prototype I believe they are a reasonable representation.  In addition, they add some variety to my wagon fleet.

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Photo 11. Completed Prestwin wagons.

Of course, now that I have built these wagons the main RTR manufacturers will no doubt release them.  This happened with my MK1 TPO coaches and MK1 Sleepers.  :(

Anyway, thank you for all your help and support with this project - it is very much appreciated.

Comments and suggestions are always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2014, 05:07:31 PM
They look very good, Paddy. It pays to persevere. 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: jd on October 10, 2014, 05:24:04 PM
They look great paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 10, 2014, 05:37:07 PM
Two projects down, time to return to the scenery of HOLLERTON JUNCTION!  Mind you, given the issues I have had with these two builds I am feeling rather nervous.  :worried:

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: jd on October 10, 2014, 05:45:17 PM
Two projects down, time to return to the scenery of HOLLERTON JUNCTION!  Mind you, given the issues I have had with these two builds I am feeling rather nervous.  :worried:

Paddy

I can't wait to see the scenery work. Just take your time and enjoy it. :claphappy:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 10, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
I'm sure that your scenic work will be fine, Paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 13, 2014, 02:03:06 PM
PRESS RELEASE - CROSVILLE MOTOR COMPANY LTD

Crosville Motor Company Ltd. is pleased to announce that due to an unexpected increase in demand the Hollerton bus/coach fleet has been expanded.

Inspector Blake, Stan, Jack and the other staff have taken delivery of an additional Bedford OB coach and Bristol Lodekka bus to increase capacity on the main local routes.

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Photo 1. Bedford OB Coach.

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Photo 2. Bristol Lodekka double decker bus.

In addition, to provide a service to outlying villages two Commer PB Minibuses have also been added.  Although small the minibuses offer a comfortable and safe service where passenger volumes are lower.

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Photo 3. Commer PB Minibus.

The final edition to the fleet is a Bristol RELH coach which offers luxurious comfort to our long distance travellers (business and tourist).

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Photo 4. Bristol RELH long distance coach.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 13, 2014, 02:06:21 PM
Very nice, Paddy. I like such mini stories, too.

I hope that the local stationmaster has informed regional headquarters of the arrival of a competing luxury road coach service! 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 13, 2014, 02:11:40 PM
Very nice, Paddy. I like such mini stories, too.

I hope that the local stationmaster has informed regional headquarters of the arrival of a competing luxury road coach service! 8-)

Sadly Chris, the expansion of Crosville's Hollerton depot is a direct reflection of how local people are turning away from the railways.  The bus/coach service is more frequent, convenient, cleaner and more importantly cheaper than the train.  In addition, Dr Beeching's The Reshaping of British Railways report printed in 1963 has not helped to improve morale on our railways or the belief that people once had in the service provided.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on October 13, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
Will this fleet run on Route A or Route B? Or either of them?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 13, 2014, 02:30:45 PM
Alas, Paddy, that's TOO realistic for me!  :'(

However, Cant Cove and Penmayne benefit from good marketing (Lady Penelope, before her marriage to the Lord of Trevelver Castle, worked as the PA to David Ogilvy who was widely hailed as "The Father of Advertising") and local and county council support, not to mention help from Trevelver Castle and its Castle Estates and Castle Brewery. An ex-GWR diesel railcar, W30W, was refurbished at Worcester depot by BR WR and moved to Penmayne for off-peak local services, after local complaints of old, dirty carriages! Another ex-GWR diesel railcar, preserved in GWR livery, will also run on summer specials from Bodmin GWS depot (along with preserved GWR steam tank locos). A new Class 122 diesel railcar is also being provided by BR WR from Plymouth Laira; not to mention Class 22 and Class 35 diesel locomotives. At Lady Penelope's insistence, the WR has provided Penmayne TRSMD with a carriage washer to keep trains clean, too! Steam services will still run, however, for enthusiasts, locally supported by the Cornish Loco. Preservation Society.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 13, 2014, 02:35:17 PM
Will this fleet run on Route A or Route B? Or either of them?

Route A, B and any other where business can be had!  It does not bode well for HOLLERTON JUNCTION... :(

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 13, 2014, 02:36:51 PM
Maybe it's time for a visit from Lady Penelope, of Trevelver Castle, to give some marketing tips? 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 13, 2014, 02:40:01 PM
Alas, Paddy, that's TOO realistic for me!  :'(

However, Cant Cove and Penmayne benefit from good marketing (Lady Penelope, before her marriage to the Lord of Trevelver Castle, worked as the PA to David Ogilvy who was widely hailed as "The Father of Advertising") and local and county council support, not to mention help from Trevelver Castle and its Castle Estates and Castle Brewery. An ex-GWR diesel railcar, W30W, was refurbished at Worcester depot by BR WR and moved to Penmayne for off-peak local services, after local complaints of old, dirty carriages! Another ex-GWR diesel railcar, preserved in GWR livery, will also run on summer specials from Bodmin GWS depot (along with preserved GWR steam tank locos). A new Class 122 diesel railcar is also being provided by BR WR from Plymouth Laira; not to mention Class 22 and Class 35 diesel locomotives. At Lady Penelope's insistence, the WR has provided Penmayne TRSMD with a carriage washer to keep trains clean, too! Steam services will still run, however, for enthusiasts, locally supported by the Cornish Loco. Preservation Society.

You are lucky to have a formidable person such as Lady Penelope to defend your local railway.  As HOLLERTON JUNCTION is on the Midland main line they are benefiting from the investments British Railways are making in Inter-City routes and the movement of bulk freight.  The two new Prestwin wagons will be added to the cement train that travels through Hollerton Junction four times a week.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 13, 2014, 02:42:19 PM
Maybe it's time for a visit from Lady Penelope, of Trevelver Castle, to give some marketing tips? 8-)

That could be useful as we are not convinced by all this corporate blue and double arrow thingy that BR management are trying to force upon us.  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 13, 2014, 02:50:51 PM
Lady Penelope often hosts the BRB Chairman and the Chairmen of the SR and WR at her Chelsea parties, Paddy and Trevelver Castle's two main businesses are investing in their own wagons.

Lady Penelope prefers the SR (she likes the Green livery and Waterloo is SO more convenient for Chelsea, dahling!) whilst her husband, like his father and grandfather, is a (G)WR man. After hearing that one of the SR's brand new Mk2 FKs was going to be allocated to the 8.30 from Penmayne to Waterloo, Paddington promised to allocate Chocolate & Cream Mk1s with the brand new Swindon-designed smooth riding B4 bogies for the 10.00 from Penmayne to Paddington. The SR has countered by allocating some of its brand new Mk 1 BCKs (the last to be built and ordered for the "Atlantic Coast Express") to the 8.00 Summer only from Penmayne to Waterloo as well as the 8.30! (Rumour has it that they will also be fitted with B4 bogies). Isn't competition wonderful! 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 30, 2014, 08:43:50 AM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 1

Hollerton Town Council has successfully lobbied for a Police and Fire station to be built.  An area of derelict land behind the Chemist, Busby’s Hair Salon and Mr Hislop’s Gents Hairdresser has been selected.

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Photo 1. Buildings.

The land has been cleared and made ready for building to commence.  The shop premises will receive new rear fencing and walling as part of the development to ensure privacy and security.

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Photo 2. Cleared land.

The Police & Fire stations will be built in the contemporary style of the 1960s so that they blend in well with this part of Hollerton town.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 30, 2014, 10:09:54 AM
Those buildings really look excellent, Paddy. I look forward to seeing the updates.  :photospleasesign:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on October 30, 2014, 10:23:32 AM
Nice idea, Paddy :thumbsup:
Have you given any thought as to where to source a generic fire engine, as the Oxford models are very localised? :hmmm:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bealman on October 30, 2014, 10:45:50 AM
Looks great! But is the viewer going to see the fronts of those lovely buildings, or the backs?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 30, 2014, 11:35:07 AM
Nice idea, Paddy :thumbsup:
Have you given any thought as to where to source a generic fire engine, as the Oxford models are very localised? :hmmm:

Hi Newportnobby,

I know what you mean.  Not sure which engine the Fire Chief will choose but I am sure it will be red!  ;)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 30, 2014, 11:37:04 AM
Looks great! But is the viewer going to see the fronts of those lovely buildings, or the backs?  :thumbsup:

Hi Bealman,

You actually see the buildings end on so the front and rears are viewable.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 31, 2014, 06:34:05 PM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 2 - JUST ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL

The owners of the Chemist and Busby's Hair Salon requested that the rear area of their properties be enclosed by a stone wall.  St Patrick’s Church is also enclosed by a stone wall (see page 9) and this worked well so I decided to use the same method again.

The walling is created by laminating a printed (trusty Inkjet) stone wall image on to cereal packet card.  This means you end up with “Paper + Card + Card + Paper” and a total width of about 1.5mm (see photo 3).

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Photo 3. Stone Walling.

Where the walls join I thought it would look good to have a concrete post.  This is nothing more than a matchstick cut to the appropriate length.  The post is then given a coat of grey exterior textured paint (see photo 4).

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Photo 4. Concrete Post.

You can see the result of one completed corner in photo 5.

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Photo 5. Part assembled Wall.

The result looks good and I still need to attach the rear wall and post before gluing in to place.  The top of the wall is then dabbed gently with the exterior paint to give the impression of capping.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on October 31, 2014, 06:47:10 PM
Nicely done Paddy, very realistic.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on October 31, 2014, 06:59:31 PM
Big News for Brookfield tonight, will it mean you have to run trains to Prudhoe?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on October 31, 2014, 07:27:31 PM
Doesn't the laminator leave it with a glossy finish?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: portland-docks on October 31, 2014, 07:29:46 PM
Big News for Brookfield tonight, will it mean you have to run trains to Prudhoe?

i hear my town mentioned, what did i miss? lol
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on October 31, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
Very nice work, Paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 31, 2014, 09:43:42 PM
Big News for Brookfield tonight, will it mean you have to run trains to Prudhoe?

Sadly given the previous mentioned expansion of the Crosville services it is more likely to be a bus to Prudhoe!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on October 31, 2014, 09:44:43 PM
That looks really good and is a great idea.
When you say the paper is laminated onto the card, is it actually just glued on ?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 31, 2014, 09:46:56 PM
Doesn't the laminator leave it with a glossy finish?

Hi Wookie,

Sorry for the confusion but when I said laminated I meant the wall is made up of paper/card layers stuck together.  Finish is matt as that is what the paper is.

Hope this is clearer.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 31, 2014, 09:49:39 PM
That looks really good and is a great idea.
When you say the paper is laminated onto the card, is it actually just glued on ?

Yes and the benefit of these walls is that they do not have to be straight.

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: portland-docks on October 31, 2014, 09:51:03 PM
Big News for Brookfield tonight, will it mean you have to run trains to Prudhoe?

Sadly given the previous mentioned expansion of the Crosville services it is more likely to be a bus to Prudhoe!  ;)

Paddy

im still confused!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bob Wild on October 31, 2014, 09:54:28 PM
Hey, I like that idea with matchstick corners. I'm going to have a go at that. It's the painting bit that scares me though.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 31, 2014, 09:55:34 PM
Hi Portland-docks,

It relates to the current storyline in the Archers radio series.  The Archers family are considering a move to Prudhoe!  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 31, 2014, 10:00:13 PM
Hey, I like that idea with matchstick corners. I'm going to have a go at that. It's the painting bit that scares me though.

Hi Bob,

Which bit of the painting?

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bob Wild on October 31, 2014, 10:05:18 PM
All of it really. But specifically, what did you do with the match sticks?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on October 31, 2014, 10:11:31 PM
All of it really. But specifically, what did you do with the match sticks?

Hi Bob,

The wall itself is a texture found on the internet and printed off at the right scale.  The wall is 12mm high (roughly 6 foot in N Gauge) and the matchstick 13mm.  I lightly sand the matchstick and then paint it with exterior paint.

Hope this helps.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 04, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 3 - GARDEN WALL AND FENCING COMPLETED

The rear areas of the Chemist, Hair Salon and Barber's have now had their walls and wooden fencing installed.  Photo 6 shows this in place.  As can be seen there is a small gap at the bottom of the stone wall (these photos are so cruel!) but this can be hidden with some vegetation.

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Photo 6. Completed stone wall and fencing.

The fencing is Ratio GWR trackside fencing (Product 244) painted with burnt umber acrylic and cut to length.  The next step is to fence off the Police & Fire Station area from the railway.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 04, 2014, 02:35:05 PM
Looks very good indeed, Paddy. Yes, that small gap at the bottom of the stone wall (photos are, indeed, very cruel -- which is why I spend ages 'touching up' models to ensure they look good) can be hidden with a line of short grass like vegetation (which would be quite realistic). You might want to gently weather the wall?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 04, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
Looks very good indeed, Paddy. Yes, that small gap at the bottom of the stone wall (photos are, indeed, very cruel -- which is why I spend ages 'touching up' models to ensure they look good) can be hidden with a line of short grass like vegetation (which would be quite realistic). You might want to gently weather the wall?

Funny thing is that I cannot see the gap that the photo shows due to the angle of the baseboard.  Still, I know it is there so it will have to be addressed!  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on November 04, 2014, 04:10:09 PM
Nicely done Paddy, a crisp bit of modelling with some interesting variations that makes it look very realistic.  A little bit of grass will hide the gap quite easily, I've had to do it in a couple of places in Bampney village.   :-[
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on November 04, 2014, 04:57:15 PM
Both the fence and stone wall look brilliant Paddy - well done!

I have this sort of thing to tackle soon  :help:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 04, 2014, 09:31:10 PM
Thanks Caz and Wookie - this is all new to me so every step is a learning exercise.  This is the main reason I started this thread so that others can learn from my mistakes.

The lineside fencing went in this evening and initial ground cover.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bealman on November 05, 2014, 05:47:13 AM
Top stuff, Paddy! Keep it coming!  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 07, 2014, 04:48:08 PM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 4 - LINESIDE FENCING

The railway line running behind the new Hollerton Police & Fire Station has been fenced off with PECO flexible fencing.  As normal I had issues with getting the paint to stick to the fencing but a bit of touching up with Humbrol Acrylic Dark Earth No. 29 has done the trick.

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Photo 7. Lineside fencing near the Chemist.

It would be great if PECO could alter the type of plastic they use so that their fencing can be painted more easily.  Once the fencing is glued in to place a mixture of PECO Scene Dark Earth and various Woodland Scenics scatter materials are added around the base.

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Photo 8. Lineside fencing meeting with brick wall.

The next step is to build a couple of brick walls to provide an entrance to the stations.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 05:50:51 PM
Very good work, Paddy. Have you tried spraypainting the plastic fences, first, with an undercoat of, e.g. Tamiya Dark Grey Undercoat? (It's what I use.)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 07, 2014, 05:57:06 PM
Very good work, Paddy. Have you tried spraypainting the plastic fences, first, with an undercoat of, e.g. Tamiya Dark Grey Undercoat? (It's what I use.)

Hi Chris,

I tried spraying with Humbrol Grey Primer before spraying with Humbrol 29.  This sort of works and about 90%+ of the paint stays attached.  I just have to go around with a small brush afterwards and touch in where needed.

Have a great weekend.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 06:24:38 PM
Good evening Paddy,

Good to read that. However, if you run out of Humbrol Grey Primer it's worth trying Tamiya Dark Grey Undercoat spraypaint as you may find it superior.

I wish you a great weekend, too. I need to finish some small jobs then clear everything away until after semester ends.

Best wishes,
Chris
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bob Wild on November 07, 2014, 11:00:34 PM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 4 - LINESIDE FENCING

  As normal I had issues with getting the paint to stick to the fencing.


Funny that. I'm doing a bit of fence painting at the moment while waiting for my colliery glue to dry. I've used both Halfords primer and some cheap acrylic applied direct without any primer. Both seem OK to me.

Bob
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 07, 2014, 11:15:52 PM
Hi Bob, I also use Halford's Grey and Red Plastic Primer and find them excellent, too.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 08, 2014, 05:46:24 AM
Good evening Paddy,

Good to read that. However, if you run out of Humbrol Grey Primer it's worth trying Tamiya Dark Grey Undercoat spraypaint as you may find it superior.

I wish you a great weekend, too. I need to finish some small jobs then clear everything away until after semester ends.

Best wishes,
Chris

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the info - I will add Tamiya to my shopping list.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 08, 2014, 05:48:48 AM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 4 - LINESIDE FENCING

  As normal I had issues with getting the paint to stick to the fencing.


Funny that. I'm doing a bit of fence painting at the moment while waiting for my colliery glue to dry. I've used both Halfords primer and some cheap acrylic applied direct without any primer. Both seem OK to me.

Bob

Hi Bob.

The Humbrol primer/paint sticks initially but once you flex the fencing to install it starts to chip off (and that is with careful handling).

Have a great weekend.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 08, 2014, 05:49:34 AM
Hi Bob, I also use Halford's Grey and Red Plastic Primer and find them excellent, too.

May be a trip to Halfords is in order!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bob Wild on November 08, 2014, 10:53:44 AM
[The Humbrol primer/paint sticks initially but once you flex the fencing to install it starts to chip off (and that is with careful handling).
Paddy

Aha, maybe that's it. I've only used straight lengths so far on the station platform. I haven't tried to bend it yet.

Bob
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: ReBeginner on November 08, 2014, 11:34:26 AM
Where possible I have very lightly sanded the fence before paint, where not, I have soaked in Soda Crystals mixture and found both remove the 'sheen surface' enough for paint to stick okay though it does still 'crack' if coat is too thick.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 09, 2014, 07:37:25 PM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 5 - VEGETATION

Some of you may recall that there was a small gap at the base of the stone wall in my previous post.  Well this has played on my mind so I added scatter at the base of the wall to cover it (see photo 9).

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Photo 9. Vegetation at the base of the wall.

That is it for today.  I was hoping to post a picture of Hollerton Police station with its new painted side gate and matching doors.  However, the photo showed that a small amount of “touching up” is needed!  :doh:

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 09, 2014, 08:25:56 PM
Excellent job, Paddy; the perfect finishing touch in my opinion.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Maurits71 on November 09, 2014, 09:26:17 PM
lovely picture
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 12, 2014, 11:52:35 AM
Hi Folks,

Just a quick update to show my latest "tool" for HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  I already have a handheld "Dustbuster" type vacuum cleaner that I use exclusively on the layout to clear up scatter material - which can then be reused!  However, I am finding that the Dustbuster is a little too big/powerful for certain areas so with this in mind I ordered one of those USB computer cleaners (see photo below).

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The little cleaner only cost £6 on eBay so I was not expecting much but nothing ventured...  I am pleased to report that the little machine works really well and is small enough to get in to the tightest of corners.  The cable on the vacuum is only about 30cm long so I ordered a 5m USB extension cable from eBuyer so I can reach to any point on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 12, 2014, 06:31:12 PM
Excellent idea, Paddy. I'm sure that our local major supplier of electrical goods will have something similar.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 13, 2014, 04:50:47 PM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 6 - ENTRANCE WALL

A brick wall has been built at the entrance of Hollerton’s new Police and Fire station.  As previously the very flexible Metcalfe brick sheets were used after being laminated to get an appropriate thickness.  The wall looked a bit bare so I created a sign (see photo 10) to finish it off.

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Photo 10. The Hollerton Police & Fire Station sign.

The Hollerton Fire Service has also taken delivery of a new fire engine which will be housed in their purpose built station (see photo 11).

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Photo 11. New wall with sign and fire engine.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on November 13, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Love the sign :thumbsup:
Is that an Oxford Diecast fire engine and, if so, what reference number please?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 13, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
Love the sign :thumbsup:
Is that an Oxford Diecast fire engine and, if so, what reference number please?


Hi Newportnobby,

It is indeed an Oxford Diecast fire engine and the code is NDEN001.  It is a lovely model and I can live with the fact it is a London fire engine.

http://www.ehattons.com/33486/Oxford_Diecast_NDEN001_Dennis_F12_Fire_Engine_London_/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/33486/Oxford_Diecast_NDEN001_Dennis_F12_Fire_Engine_London_/StockDetail.aspx)

Can you believe it is only £4!

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 13, 2014, 09:34:32 PM
More excellent scenic modelling, Paddy. The sign is particularly fine.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on November 13, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
Great stuff.
Great sign
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 15, 2014, 08:36:17 PM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 7 - POLICE STATION COMPLETED!

The building work on Hollerton Police station is now complete.  As can be seen in photo 12 the Inspector is visiting and undertaking a final review before his Police officers arrive and the station is officially opened.

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Photo 12. Hollerton Police Station.

Photos 13 and 14 below show the entrance to the site with the new walls in place.  So far the local residents are very happy with all the work undertaken as it has transformed a piece of waste land.

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Photo 13. Hollerton Police & Fire Station entrance looking left.

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Photo 14. Hollerton Police & Fire Station entrance looking right.

The next step is to start work on Hollerton Fire Station and the car park.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 15, 2014, 08:40:27 PM
More superb scenic modelling, Paddy. Looking forward to seeing the Fire Station. Hollerton is obviously a great place to live. 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 15, 2014, 08:53:15 PM
More superb scenic modelling, Paddy. Looking forward to seeing the Fire Station. Hollerton is obviously a great place to live. 8-)

Thanks Chris - but with all this building work the local rates are going to be astronomical!  :worried:

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 15, 2014, 09:05:26 PM
I did think about the local rates, Paddy, but I'm sure the residents think it is worth paying high rates. 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on November 15, 2014, 11:11:21 PM
Just wait until the klaxons start at 2 in the morning >:( What about the rates then? :no:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on November 16, 2014, 12:47:20 PM
I'm envious of your modelling skills
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 16, 2014, 02:01:26 PM
Thanks Wookie but you should not be.  HOLLERTON JUNCTION is no Pendon and I have benefitted from all the help people have given me on forums like this.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on November 16, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
Yes they are a great bunch on here, and very helpful.
Trouble is they keep telling me that the trains I want to buy and run (or have already bought!) are not prototypical for my layout  :(
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: NeMo on November 16, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
Trouble is they keep telling me that the trains I want to buy and run (or have already bought!) are not prototypical for my layout
I feel your pain! But my 'Western' just looks so good dragging 'silver bullet' tankers!  :sorrysign:

Reminds me of a quote from Gary Larson to the effect that there should be a confessional booth for cartoonists who draw dinosaurs and cave men in the same strip!

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: mika on November 16, 2014, 03:33:52 PM
Yes they are a great bunch on here, and very helpful.
Trouble is they keep telling me that the trains I want to buy and run (or have already bought!) are not prototypical for my layout  :(


 :goggleeyes: What? Have you shown them your license? :D

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j368/mika21882/P1120532.jpg)

Cheers
Michael
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 16, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
Yes they are a great bunch on here, and very helpful.
Trouble is they keep telling me that the trains I want to buy and run (or have already bought!) are not prototypical for my layout  :(

Hi Wookie,

Don't worry about that, just run what you like.  HOLLERTON JUNCTION (despite being lebelled as London Midland Region) covers 1948-1968 and all regions.  This means you will see a Blue Pullman, WR King and Duchess together!  :o

I have a real fancy for a Class 50 in pre-TOPS blue but that might be stretching things a little too far...

Kind regards

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 16, 2014, 05:24:39 PM
There is no reason why you cannot have a 'Rule One' operating session for your own pleasure. I have a BR Green Class 14, a BR Green Class 46 'Peak', a BR Maroon Class 52 'Western' and a BR Green Class 47 D1662 "Isambard Kingdom Brunel" none of which did or even could have run in North Cornwall in the Wadebridge area (with the probable exception of the Class 14 and I have a 'cover story' for that), although they are within my 1961-1968 timeframe. I also have two Class 04s which, although the SR had an allocation of them never ran in North Cornwall either. However, then there is my InterCity liveried Minitrix Class 47 . . . I also have two "Kronenbourg" refrigerated beer vans and an ancient 'out-of-gauge' "Pilsner Urquell" beer van, too . . . When I want to, which will be most of the time, I can and will run an accurate Working Timetable with the correct stock for that year. And when I don't want to . . .
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 16, 2014, 05:35:51 PM
I also like the new DB Schenker livery which is very smart IMHO.  Now you can find Doctor Who's TARDIS on HOLLERTON JUNCTION so could I use that as an excuse for a DB Schenker Class 66?  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 16, 2014, 06:14:15 PM
I should add that Brush Type 4s (future Class 47s) DID run via Okehampton on passenger trains before the WR closed the Exeter - Plymouth line as a through route and at least one Class 33 (as they became) reached Launceston, so that justifies (for me) having a BR Green D65XX, too. 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on November 16, 2014, 07:05:28 PM
Thanks for the encouraging words guys  :-*
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 18, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 8 - FINISHED!

One last push has seen building work completed on Hollerton Town’s new Police & Fire Station.  Landscaping has been completed and the car park marked out (see photo 17).

Below are a number of photographs that try to show the completed area.  As always I have used Woodland Scenic materials to represent greenery.  The white parking area lines are thin strips (~1mm) cut from a white self adhesive address label.

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Photo 15. Entrance to the Police & Fire Station area.

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Photo 16. The new Fire Engine parked outside the station building.

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Photo 17. Aerial photo showing car park and overall area.

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Photo 18. New Fire Station.

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Photo 19. New Fire Station.

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Photo 20. New Police Station.

This part of HOLLERTON JUNCTION is now complete although there is still some fine detailing to do as well adding some Police Officers and Firemen.  Also the tree looks rather bent over to the right in the photos!  :doh:

The next project Hollerton Town high street.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on November 18, 2014, 02:19:58 PM
Nice bit of modelling. Looks really good.
Where are Pugh, Pugh Barney & McGrew ?  (Did I spell those correctly  :hmmm:)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 18, 2014, 02:28:11 PM
Nice bit of modelling. Looks really good.
Where are Pugh, Pugh Barney & McGrew ?  (Did I spell those correctly  :hmmm:)

Funny you should mention them Port Perran.  The Firemen are all inside on a training course and hopefully the full team (Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cutherbert, Dibble and Grubb) will be out and about Hollerton Town in the future.  :D

Oh and of course Captain Flack will be keeping them all in line!

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 18, 2014, 02:33:14 PM
Very nice scenic modelling, again, Paddy. Maybe the tree is twisted because that is the way the prevailing winds blow?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 18, 2014, 02:38:12 PM
Very nice scenic modelling, again, Paddy. Maybe the tree is twisted because that is the way the prevailing winds blow?

Hah, more likely that the builders chose to use a cheap Chinese import!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on November 18, 2014, 03:18:45 PM
Nice addition to a great layout just wish I had had room for a fire station as well as the police station as the two together look great.  For my police station in Bampney, I carefully removed the outside blue lamp and drilled a hole through the wall and also into the back of the lamp and then inserted a piece of fibre optic through the hole and into the lamp and glued the lot together.  A little SMD LED on the rear of the wall and hey presto, you have an illuminated blue lamp.   ;)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on November 18, 2014, 04:04:20 PM
hey presto, you have an illuminated blue lamp.   ;)

Just needs an N gauge 'Dixon of Dock Green' stood outside :D

Nice work, Paddy :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 24, 2014, 01:44:36 PM
TARMAC/CONCRETE PAVEMENTS

To date all the pavements on HOLLERTON JUNCTION have been made from Metcalfe paving slab sheets (PN111).  Personally I find these sheets not to be thick enough so I laminate them to cereal packet card before use.  Whilst I like the look of the Metcalfe paving I do not want all the pavements in Hollerton to be the same!  I started to think about how to represent tarmac/concrete payments with curb stones in N gauge...

As some of you know, I have used Dulux Weathershield Textured Masonry Paint (Concrete Grey) to represent the roads on my layout.  The texture/colour of this paint works very well in N gauge but I thought the surface might be a little rough for pavements.  A quick search on Dulux’s web site confirmed that they do the same paint in a smooth finish (photo 1).

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Photo 1. Dulux Weathershield Smooth Masonry Paint (Concrete Grey).

Money saving tip.  Buy the tester pots of paint which come in 250ml tins.  This should be more than enough paint for all but the largest of N gauge layouts.  Normally I buy the paint from B&Q where a tin this size costs about £3.  However, B&Q had sold out so I ended up purchasing the tin from Homebase where it cost £5.49!

The next step was to create a sample section of card made from two pieces of cereal packet card glued together with PVA (photo 2).  I cannot recommend cereal packet card highly enough as it is “cheap” and suitable for many uses around the layout.

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Photo 2. Two pieces of cereal packet card glued together.

Once dry (place some weights on top to reduce warping) I gave the top surface of the card a coat of the Dulux masonry paint.  The Dulux paint is quite thick so one coat is normally enough although there may be the odd patch to touch up later.

To represent the curb stones I lightly scribed a line 1mm back from the edge with a scalpel and then marked out the individual stones at 4mm intervals.  For the purpose of this test I undertook this process before and after painting the card with Dulux to see which gave the best result.  In reality there is very little difference although after painting seems marginally better.  Also, I found that cutting through the entire thickness of the card when marking out the 4mm divisions gives a finer result.

Looking at real curb stones they seem to be a lighter grey/slightly fawn colour (depending on weathering) so I chose to paint the curb stones with Humbrol Acrylic Authentic Rail Colours Coach Roof Off-White Matt (RC417).  This just happened to be a pot of paint I had in my possession but personally I think it looks rather good.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Humbrol Acrylic R417.

Once the Acrylic paint had dried I ran a fine pencil along the score and cut marks to make them stand out a little more.  Do not go overboard with the pencil as we are simply trying to suggest some shadow/weathering between the stones.  The completed pavement sample can be seen in photo 4 below.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Completed pavement.

Overall I am happy with the end result and the process allows the easy creation of pavements of different shapes/sizes.  However, as always comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: jd on November 24, 2014, 02:36:14 PM
A awesome write up and tips thanks paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on November 24, 2014, 09:03:31 PM
Excellent idea. It opens up a load of possibilities. Unfortunately in this part of the world nobody sells tester pots. Only half or one litre pots :(
I'll find a way round.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 24, 2014, 09:27:51 PM
Excellent idea. It opens up a load of possibilities. Unfortunately in this part of the world nobody sells tester pots. Only half or one litre pots :(
I'll find a way round.

Well Mito, 0.5l will last you a lifetime!  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on November 24, 2014, 09:37:54 PM
If I can't finish it, I'll bequest it to someone :P
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 24, 2014, 09:40:27 PM
If I can't finish it, I'll bequest it to someone :P

Or switch to O Gauge where you will need a lot more.  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on November 24, 2014, 09:55:08 PM
Got some On30 stuff. May be I'll use it for that. Just need to find a large garage. On second thoughts I'll sell the On30 and buy a spray paint.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 29, 2014, 01:03:27 PM
HOLLERTON TOWN HIGH STREET SECTION 1 - PART 1

Work has now started on Hollerton Town’s high street.  As detailed in my previous posting entitled TARMAC/CONCRETE PAVEMENTS, I created a base for the first section of the street so that it can be worked on away from the baseboard.  The cardboard base required a couple of coats of the Concrete Grey Dulux Weathershield Smooth Masonry Paint to get a good covering.  Once dry, I scribed and painted the curb stones before gluing the buildings with PVA.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Base with buildings attached.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Base with buildings attached.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Base with buildings attached.

This part of the high street has an Off License, Newsagents, Fish & Chips Shop and finally a Model Shop.  There is also a rather nice private dwelling which houses the local veterinary practice of Farnon, Farnon & Herriot.  As can be seen from the above photos the rears of the buildings require the addition of fencing, gardens and general detailing.  To this end I created the following panel fencing artwork in Paint Shop Pro and printed it out on high resolution HP paper.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Panel fence artwork.

The printed artwork was then glued to cereal packet card using 3M Spray Mount to ensure there was no bubbling.  Once dry this will be cut out and another layer of the printed artwork will be stuck on the other side.

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Artwork stuck to cereal packet card.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 29, 2014, 01:31:00 PM
More excellent modelling, Paddy. The idea of the base is excellent a sit will prevent any unsightly gaps under the buildings (one of my pet peeves). 8-)

Looks like another group of highly realistic buildings. The fence is a very nice addition. You (almost) persuade me to try cardboard buildings instead of plastic ones.  :greatpicturessign:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on November 29, 2014, 05:58:55 PM
Very nice indeed. I look forward to reaching that standard.
Chris, you ought to try card buildings. It's a hobby in itself.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 29, 2014, 07:04:05 PM
Many years ago, I did make card kits; remember Highfield Models? I just prefer plastic kits because I have a lot of experience making, kitbashing and painting them. Plus, I like the 3D quality although I agree that cardboard kits can be given a semi-3D character. The ability to make, change and print your own cardboard kits via a PC and colour printer is certainly a great development but I'm looking forward to the spread of 3D printers! 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 29, 2014, 08:43:33 PM
More excellent modelling, Paddy. The idea of the base is excellent a sit will prevent any unsightly gaps under the buildings (one of my pet peeves).

Thanks Chris and I agree with you.  I try to minimise any gaps although I had problems with the fish & chips shop as it was not flat on the bottom.  I got around this by packing one side up and filling the gap with model filler - seemed to work OK.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 29, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
Very nice indeed. I look forward to reaching that standard.
Chris, you ought to try card buildings. It's a hobby in itself.

Thanks Mito but I just plod along learning as I go.  It makes you realise just how clever the folks who build something like Pendon etc. really are.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 29, 2014, 08:53:18 PM
Many years ago, I did make card kits; remember Highfield Models? I just prefer plastic kits because I have a lot of experience making, kitbashing and painting them. Plus, I like the 3D quality although I agree that cardboard kits can be given a semi-3D character. The ability to make, change and print your own cardboard kits via a PC and colour printer is certainly a great development but I'm looking forward to the spread of 3D printers! 8-)

I think you can get away with the flatness of card in N gauge - not so sure about anything bigger though like OO.  Metcalfe seem to do a good job these days with their kits as they have multiple layers and laser cut parts to ehance the 3D effect.  The thing I dislike about card though is the exposed white edges - they can really spoil the effect so I use paint/pencil/felt tips to try and mask them.

Paddy
 
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on November 29, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
Corners are a nuisance. What I'm trying to do now is one of two things. I modify the building so that any join is on a flat surface and can be disguised or I score the card before I glue the printout on. Sometime successful sometimes not. :-\
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 29, 2014, 09:51:03 PM
Corners can also be a problem with plastic sheets as, if they are thick, they have to be bevelled and using enough but not too much glue can be a problem. However, once the glue has dried sanding and Tamiya Filler can come to the rescue!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on November 30, 2014, 10:51:11 AM
I love the scalescenes kits. There are no exposed corners, they are nicely weathered, and you lay the roof tiles in strips so that they have a properly layered look.
With properly recessed doors and windows, plus window sills they look properly 3D.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on November 30, 2014, 11:08:41 AM
They certainly can look very good, I agree, Mike but you don't get the 3D effect of brick or stonework so I still prefer plastic sheets / kits but, at normal viewing distance I have to concede that the Scalescenes kits can look very realistic.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on November 30, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
They are also within my (limited) capabilities  :D
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on November 30, 2014, 12:04:23 PM
I believe the recommended viewing distance is 2 feet for N gauge - which scales at around 300 feet in the prototype - I don't believe that you see much 3D effect from brick/stonework at that distance in the real thing  :o
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bob Wild on November 30, 2014, 11:16:42 PM
They certainly can look very good, I agree, Mike but you don't get the 3D effect of brick or stonework

Mmm, interesting thought. But when I think about texture and look at a ten thou (0.010in) recess in a moulding, which is about the smallest you get, and multiply that by 148 you end up with 1.48in depth. Now that's what I call a blooming big grout in a wall. Even for some of the cowboys I've seen round here.

So, in conclusion, I'm quite happy with paper prints from Scalescenes.

Bob
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2014, 07:50:17 AM
That's the problem with modelling in such a small scale, Bob. To notice something at normal viewing distance it may be necessary to exaggerate a 3D effect. Once the plastic sheet has been spraypainted with undercoat then painted and, finally, weathered, the recess depth is reduced anyway.

It reminds me of the e so-called scale effect which requires a proportion of white paint to be added to a basic colour in order to reduce its chromacity; particularly if your model is to be painted in very dark colours and is especially relevant for small-scale models as the scale viewing distance is much greater for N Scale than 00 Scale. The actual proportions of white paint added will depend partly on the scale of the model, and largely according to the personal preference of the modeller.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bob Wild on December 01, 2014, 11:06:08 AM
Cheers Chris. I bow to your greater knowledge and experience. Didn't know that about adding white to a basic colour. You're really scaring me now. Not sure I'll ever succeed!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2014, 11:09:47 AM
I would not worry too much about it, Bob. Rely on what looks good to you at normal viewing distance. It is just something to be aware of. It is the overall affect of realism that we're aiming for, IMHO.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chinahand on December 01, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
If I'm using the Scalescenes Brick sheets I print them onto 100 gsm Linen Weave paper. I find that the linen weave texture of the paper gives me just enough texture to be a reasonable representation of N Scale brickwork.

If I'm using the stone sheets I use 100 gsm 'Laid' paper which, again, gives just the right amount of 'roughness' for dressed stone or concrete.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 01, 2014, 12:22:18 PM
Excellent tips, Trevor. I'm sure that will provide enough 3D effect.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 09, 2014, 12:47:52 PM
HOLLERTON TOWN HIGH STREET SECTION 1 - PART 2

It has taken a lot longer to complete the rear gardens of these buildings than I expected.  This is not because of any particular technical problem, rather the intricate nature of the modelling (well for me!).  When I finished it suddenly dawned on me that most of this is probably a waste of time as from the operating position of HOLLERTON JUNCTION you cannot see these gardens!

As can hopefully be seen in the photos the panelled fencing turned out rather well and certainly passes muster in N gauge.  The lawns are created from small amounts of grass mat cut to shape and glued in place.  Other surfaces have been made from various scatter materials from Woodland Scenics and PECO.

[Limit reached]Photo 6. Fish & Chips and Model Shop rear gardens.

[Limit reached]Photo 7. Fish & Chips and veterinary practice rear gardens.

[Limit reached]Photo 8. Newsagent and terraced houses communal area.

The shed in the communal area is a Hornby Lyddle End item that I bought many years ago and is a lovely little model.  The greenhouse is a Kestrel Designs kit (KD22) which is now available from Gaugemaster and costs a mere £2.85 for four.  I used Deluxe Materials Glue ‘n’ Glaze to assemble the kit and this dried very clear and worked well.  One word of warning - the plastic used for the greenhouse is rather hard and difficult to cut with a scalpel.  In fact, I ended up with a nasty cut on my thumb whilst trying to remove the bits from the sprue.  In the end I use my Xuron track cutters and filed the edges smooth.

[Limit reached]Photo 9. Arial view of rear gardens.

Although not shown on the photos I intend to add a tree to the veterinary practice garden once the module has been glued to the baseboard.  As can be seen in photo 10 the tree is one of those low cost plastic ones that you can buy on eBay in boxes of eight.  Whilst they are not the greatest models they are cheap and make a reasonable starting point.

[Limit reached]Photo 10. Low cost tree prior to enhancement.

To improve the look of the tree I decided to add additional Woodland Scenic scatter material which was held in place with a strong hold hair spray.  I hope you agree that the end result is a big improvement.

[Limit reached]Photo 11. Low cost tree after enhancement.

The next task is to glue this section of high street on to the main baseboard.  Once dry I will add scenic materials so that it sits in the landscape naturally.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: wookie on December 09, 2014, 01:17:46 PM
That all looks lovely Paddy, and the tree is definitely better after your treatment.
I love the detailing of the waste water pipes, something that is missing on Scalescenes.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on December 09, 2014, 02:14:49 PM
Agreed - the extra detailing of buildings and trees really brings life to the whole scene :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chinahand on December 09, 2014, 02:31:48 PM
Very nice work Paddy.

It's never a waste of time detailing a model which, from a normal viewing position, may not be seen. You will know it's there and it will always give you satisfaction just knowing that it's there. It's also good practice for when you come to detailing something which will be in full view at the front of the layout.

Good work on the trees also which are much improved by the additional colour and textures you have added.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 09, 2014, 02:50:57 PM
Thanks Chaps - really appreciate the kind words of encouragement.  It is true, it does give me satisfaction to know the gardens are there and detailed even though I have to stand on a step to see them!  :)

Those trees were a real bargain - less than £1 each is memory serves.  You may recall that I used three in Hollerton's St Patrick's church "as is" but I might remove those now and give them a makeover.  Well, I will add it to the "To Do" list as I want to get the overall layout finished before I go back to super detail (hark at me!).

Merry Christmas

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on December 09, 2014, 03:41:20 PM
More excellent work, Paddy. I second all the comments from the three posters above.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on December 09, 2014, 03:46:14 PM
Superb modelling and attention to detail, love the panelled fences, how did you do them?   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 09, 2014, 04:25:31 PM
Superb modelling and attention to detail, love the panelled fences, how did you do them?   :thumbsup:

Hi Caz,

Thank you.  You can read about the panelled fencing in post 306.

Merry Christmas

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on December 09, 2014, 04:43:57 PM
Excellent modelling there Paddy.
Great detail.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on December 09, 2014, 06:44:46 PM
Super detailing :claphappy:
All you need now are a couple of deck chairs in the gardens with people relaxing.  :beers: Or are they too busy running their businesses?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 09, 2014, 08:42:41 PM
Super detailing :claphappy:
All you need now are a couple of deck chairs in the gardens with people relaxing.  :beers: Or are they too busy running their businesses?

Thanks Mito.  That is almost exactly what my wife said!  :D

Merry Christmas

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Guy on December 10, 2014, 03:32:25 PM
Just read the whole thread. Great modelling Paddy, I really like what you're doing, quite inspirational.  :)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 24, 2014, 01:17:03 PM
Hi Folks,

Just wanted to wish everyone a very happy Christmas and a prosperous & healthy 2015.

Also thank you for all your help and support with HOLLERTON JUNCTION which is very much appreciated.

Have a wonderful Christmas.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 19, 2015, 03:07:53 PM
IMPROVING THE “OLD” POOLE GRAHAM FARISH PULLMANS

Firstly I want to wish everyone a happy, healthy and prosperous 2015.  Personally I have just recovered from some sort of nasty chest virus so there was no progress on HOLLERTON JUNCTION over Christmas.

However, I saw a video on YouTube that was posted by TheZimma (aka Tony) who has a wonderful model railway that I find very inspirational.  The video in question shows how Tony improved his Hornby Railroad OO Pullmans by adding his own curtains (he also repainted the roofs to a more appropriate colour).  You can watch Tony’s videos and subscribe to his channel at:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheZimma (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheZimma)

This got me thinking about whether a similar thing could be done to my rake of old Poole Graham Farish Pullman cars.  As many of you will know the Farish Pullmans are rather basic by today’s standards and the painting/printing leaves a lot to be desired.  However, they are the only matchboard Pullman cars available and look OK when on the layout.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Starting point, Graham Farish Pullman Dining Car.

The first step is to dismantle the car to make adding curtains easier (see photo 2).  You should be aware that the sides of the coaches are quite brittle so be careful when removing the roof.  Also, you will find that the glazing is nothing more than a loosely fitted piece of clear plastic sheet (we are not talking flush glazing in these models!).

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Disassembled dining car.

Adding “curtains” to the glazing is not easy when the plastic can move around freely.  To resolve this I stuck the pieces of acetate in place with Glue ‘n’ Glaze from Deluxe Materials.  This glue is like PVA but dries perfectly clear so is perfect for securing glazing.  Full details can be found at:

http://www.deluxematerials.com/scenicrailwaygluenglaze.html (http://www.deluxematerials.com/scenicrailwaygluenglaze.html)

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Glazing glued in place.

The curtains themselves are simply pieces of Post It Note cut to size in an appropriate colour (I chose to use a very light purple colour).  The stickiness of a Post It is perfect as it allows the curtain to be moved around until in the ideal position.  When I was happy with the position of the curtains I secured them in place with a small dab of Glue ‘n’ Glaze at the top and bottom.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Curtains stuck in to position.

This is where I had some mission creep!  The solebars of the Pullman cars are made from a very shiny black plastic and look rather cheap.  A quick rummage in my paint box came up with Humbrol Acrylic Matt Dirty Black RC401.  A couple of coats of Dirty Black toned the plastic down and improves the overall finish to my eyes.  Photo 5 shows one of the completed dining cars with curtains and painted solebar.  You may also notice that I replaced the old shiny coach wheels with a set of Graham Farish's latest blackened ones.

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Finished Pullman Dining Car.

P.S. I notice in the photo that the roof is not quite on properly - this has now been fixed!  ;)

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 19, 2015, 03:50:53 PM
Very nice work and well worth it. Did you think about painting the white plastic interior or, at least, the tables lamps and chairs? A very fiddly job, of course.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 19, 2015, 04:55:14 PM
Hi Chris,

Thank you for your kind words.  Actually I did toy with the idea of painting the inside but decided against it.  It is really the outside painting/printing that needs improving.  :(

May be one day we will get some super detailed Pullmans like the Hornby ones in N gauge?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 19, 2015, 05:48:19 PM
Hi Paddy, I asked because I also have a rake of the old Pullmans (as well as a rake of the later design ones) and a Pullman Observation car kit to make to go with them and that definitely needs a detailed interior.

I am sure that, eventually, Graham Farish will bring out some new, better detailed Pullmans.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 19, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
Given your painting skill Chris, I look forward to seeing your results!

It would be great if Hornby/Arnold downsized their OO Pullmans...

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on January 19, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Nice work, Paddy. You've improved the look of the Pullman greatly :thumbsup:

  You should be aware that the sides of the coaches are quite brittle so be careful when removing the roof.

Any tips on this? Are the roofs (rooves) clipped on somehow? Did you use your nails/knife/screwdriver to aid removal?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 20, 2015, 08:44:05 AM
Nice work, Paddy. You've improved the look of the Pullman greatly :thumbsup:

  You should be aware that the sides of the coaches are quite brittle so be careful when removing the roof.

Any tips on this? Are the roofs (rooves) clipped on somehow? Did you use your nails/knife/screwdriver to aid removal?
Thanks in advance.

Hi Newportnobby,

The roof is held on with a single push fit pillar in the middle of the coach.  On most of my coaches the roof came off quite easily with some gentle pulling.  However, one was rather tight and I must have squeezed the sides a little too much and cracked the plastic above the window frame.  Luckily the damage was only minor and cannot be seen once repaired and the coach reassembled.

Hope this helps.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on January 20, 2015, 08:51:42 AM
Thanks Paddy for a great little thread, you've now created more work for me as my son gave me a rake of 6 of the old Farish Pullmans albeit with some broken couplings but so far I haven't done anything with them but seeing this has made me want to now do something with them.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 20, 2015, 08:57:40 AM
Thanks Paddy for a great little thread, you've now created more work for me as my son gave me a rake of 6 of the old Farish Pullmans albeit with some broken couplings but so far I haven't done anything with them but seeing this has made me want to now do something with them.

Thanks Caz - glad to be of service.  I look forward to seeing the results of your work as well.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 23, 2015, 01:31:52 PM
Finally finished adding curtains to all my Pullman cars (6 of them) - that took longer than expected (a common experience in my modelling!).  :)

Whilst reassembling the cars I felt the windows in the end and doors did not look good clear as most prototype photos tend to show a dark interior.  A couple of coats of Humbrol Acrylic Satin Coal Black 85 on the inside of the perspex has done the trick.

Overall I feel this has been a worthwhile project and the end result is definitely an improvement on these venerable old Poole Farish Pullman cars.  No doubt Hornby (or someone else) will now announce a range of super detailed matchboard Pullmans in N gauge.  :D

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 23, 2015, 01:56:42 PM
Definitely well worth doing, Paddy, and something I plan to do in the future with mine.

Can we have more  :photospleasesign:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 23, 2015, 02:17:34 PM
Well just for you Chris - here are a couple of shots of the Pullman cars in HOLLERTON JUNCTION station.

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Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bealman on January 23, 2015, 02:26:22 PM
They look great!  Get crackin' Caz!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 23, 2015, 02:29:15 PM
Very nice, Paddy. Thanks for those two very nice photos. Painting the window glass in the doors and the corridor ends is a great idea which would not have occurred to me. I wonder if the glass in the real thing was tinted?

When I get around to doing my rake I will definitely paint the white plastic interior strip. I also have one old Pullman to convert to a Camping Coach and that will have a simple scratchbuilt interior.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 23, 2015, 02:33:22 PM
Very nice, Paddy. Thanks for those two very nice photos. Painting the window glass in the doors and the corridor ends is a great idea which would not have occurred to me. I wonder if the glass in the real thing was tinted?

I do not know Chris - the interior certainly looks dark but that could simply be as a result of dark panelling and a lack of light in the photos.  It would be good to see what these coaches would look like if Bachmann were to treat them to a high quality print job.  Not likely to happen though as these are way outside what might be called Blue Ribband!

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bealman on January 23, 2015, 02:39:30 PM
They look Blue Ribband to me, bonny lad. Top job.  :thumbsup:

George
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 23, 2015, 02:52:31 PM
Looking at photos., online, the end dors had normal glass but I think your idea is still fine as it hides the lack of interior detail inside. The table lamps should have orange shades and gold stems but, as the tables had white table cloths, the tables can be left as they are.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 04, 2015, 09:29:01 PM
Hi Folks,

Does anyone know where you can get N gauge tyres?  Alternatively any ideas what could be used to represent tyres?

Want some tyres to put around my bus garage etc.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Bealman on February 04, 2015, 10:11:01 PM
I got some really neat white metal castings of single tyres and jumbled piles from a firm called Detail Associates Model Railroad Products, of Box 197 Santa Maria CA, but it was a long time ago and they may not still be around.

Here is a (not very good) pic of the tyres in situ, dumped in a little gully just outside of Castle Eden on my layout:
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Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 05, 2015, 08:00:49 AM
Thanks Bealman, that is exactly what I am looking for.  I will Google that company later today.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 09, 2015, 03:11:47 PM
CHURCH FARM - PART 1

Having completed the improvements to my Graham Farish Pullman cars, focus has returned to the scenic development of HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  The corners of a layout always seem awkward to fill although so far I have a road tunnel in one, forest and line side hut in another and St Patrick’s Church (see a previous posting for details) at the rear left.

This leaves the front left hand side to fill and I have decided to add a wee farm.  Now given the name of my layout one might expect the farm to be called Willow, Bridge, Grange, Hollowtree, Home, Nightingale or Brookfield farm!  However, my Uncle owned a substantial farm in Wiltshire called Church Farm so this is what Hollerton’s farm has to be.

The first step was to create a raised base for Church Farm buildings to reside upon.  This was created from a piece of corrugated cardboard (~4mm high).  The base was then covered with a piece of thick paper to hide the ridges from the cardboard (doh - I did not think of this beforehand!).  Once dry the base was given a coat of Dulux Weathershield smooth masonry paint to seal the surface.

The wet paint caused the paper to bubble (argh!!!) although these have reduced now it has dried.  Whilst annoying it is not a disaster as most of the base will be covered with scatter etc.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Base for Church Farm buildings.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 09, 2015, 09:51:38 PM
Looking forward to seeing you develop this corner, Paddy. "Church Farm" has a nice ring to it! 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 09, 2015, 09:56:32 PM
Looking forward to seeing you develop this corner, Paddy. "Church Farm" has a nice ring to it! 8-)

Thanks Chris, more updates in the days ahead!

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 10, 2015, 02:48:33 PM
CHURCH FARM - PART 2

More progress on Church Farm with the laying of the upper field which is made from Woodland Scenics grass mat stuck on to some cereal packet card.  The card is used to give a wee bit of height to the field in relation to the track level.

Tip: For odd shaped areas create a paper template and use this to cut out card, scenic matting etc.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Upper field of Church Farm.

Obviously the farmer at Church Farm likes his fields neat as the current surface is like a putting green!  Fear not, the addition of scatter materials with give the appropriate texture in due course.

The next task was to create some aged red brick walling to use around the farm.  A quick Google found a suitable texture and this was repeated a number of times in Paint Shop to create the appropriate length.  The colour of the brickwork was also altered by adjusting the brightness/contract and RGB mix.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Wall artwork.

Next was a test build of the wall to see if the end result would be convincing.  The wall artwork was printed on to bright white printer paper (HP in my case) and allowed to dry.  I already had some ~2mm thick mounting card and this seemed to be about the right thickness for a wall.  The card is actually just less than 2mm so makes the wall less than 12” thick in real life.

The top edge of the card was painted in a matt dark grey (mixed from black and white paint) and a little down the sides.  The artwork was then cut out with a scalpel and glued to the card leaving a wee bit of the grey visible on the side (less than 1mm).  You can see the result in photo 3 below.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Sample build of the farm wall.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 10, 2015, 05:07:22 PM
Another excellent job, Paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on February 10, 2015, 07:03:52 PM
Another excellent job, Paddy.
Seconded.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 13, 2015, 01:09:58 PM
CHURCH FARM - PART 3

In the previous part we covered the creation of brick walls for use on Church Farm.  Another common boundary marker on farms is the classic hedge.  Looking on YouTube there seems to be many ways of making hedges out of scourers etc. but unfortunately the tutorials seemed to be based around OO/HO and looked rather over scale for N gauge.

Whilst shopping in Sainsbury’s I came across a pack their Basics Sponge Scourers (pack of 3) for a very reasonable 20p.  The green scourer on these sponges is less thick and if removed from the sponge would be about a scale 2-3 feet.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Sainsbury’s Basics Sponge Scourers.

As expected the scourer is glued to the sponge quite securely but with patience, scalpel and scissors it can be removed intact.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Sponges, one intact and the other with the scourer removed.

You will be left with some yellow sponge and glue on one side of the scourer but this can be carefully cut off with scissors leaving a clean scourer.  If only Sainsbury’s sold the scourers on their own it would be so much easier!

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Green scourer removed from the sponge.

Next cut the scourer in to strips as seen in photo 4.  Each one of these strips is approximately 12mm x 95mm and you should get 4-5 from each scourer.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Scourer cut in to strips.

You could probably use the scourer strips as they are but a covering of scatter makes them look a lot more realistic.  Initially I tried PVA glue and Woodland Scenics Blended Turf but this was a complete disaster as the turf was over scale and the PVA cracked.

Another search on YouTube indicated that a better solution is to use fine grade scatter secured with an aerosol adhesive such as hairspray (firm hold and cheap!).  Luckily my local Sainsbury’s came up trumps again with a 300ml own brand can for £1!

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Sainsbury’s Extra Firm Hold Hairspray.

I also bought a couple of packets of Woodland Scenics Fine Turf scatter; T44 Burnt Grass and T45 Green Grass.  Neither of these colours was acceptable (to me) on their own so I decided to use 1 part burnt grass to 2 parts green grass.

[Limit reached]Photo 6. Woodland Scenics Fine Turfs.

The scatter was placed in a plastic tub and the strips of scourer liberally sprayed with the hairspray along with it.  The lid was then placed on the tub and the whole lot given a very thorough shake to ensure total coverage of the scourers.

Tip 1: Do not cover each piece of scourer individually as you will find the hairspray makes the scatter go clumpy.  If you place the 4-5 pieces in together then they can be covered in one go.  The clumpy scatter can then be used as bushes on your layout or made fine again by crushing it.

Tip 2: When you remove the scourer from the tub give them a gentle tap to remove any loose scatter and place on a sheet of tin foil.  They should not stick to the foil or if they do can be easily removed without damaging them.

Tip 3: When the hedges have dried give them another coat with the hairspray to seal the scatter.

The photo below shows a completed length of hedge.  At this stage it is a little rough but can be neatened up if desired.  The appearance really depends on how rustic you want your hedges to be.  Also, the mix of green and burnt grass turf gives a pleasing variability to the end colour.

[Limit reached]Photo 7. Completed length of hedge.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 13, 2015, 01:29:42 PM
Thanks for the tips/tutorial, Paddy :thumbsup:
However, I feel that hedges made in this manner are more suitable for urban gardens where hedges are (usually) extremely well kept/manicured, whereas hedges bordering fields are far more wild and woolly with large height differences and thicknesses.
Just my thoughts :hmmm:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 13, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
Thanks for the tips/tutorial, Paddy :thumbsup:
However, I feel that hedges made in this manner are more suitable for urban gardens where hedges are (usually) extremely well kept/manicured, whereas hedges bordering fields are far more wild and woolly with large height differences and thicknesses.
Just my thoughts :hmmm:


Hi Newportnobby,

You can make the hedges as unkempt as you like by adding more scatter or as I did originally using a coarser grade.  These are definitely a bit too industrial for domestic hedges IMHO though.

I am aiming for this sort of look...

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Farm_lane_with_freshly_trimmed_hedges_-_geograph.org.uk_-_623167.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Farm_lane_with_freshly_trimmed_hedges_-_geograph.org.uk_-_623167.jpg)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 13, 2015, 03:32:38 PM
Very nice work, Paddy, and a very useful tutorial.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 13, 2015, 04:19:01 PM

I am aiming for this sort of look...

[url]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Farm_lane_with_freshly_trimmed_hedges_-_geograph.org.uk_-_623167.jpg[/url] ([url]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Farm_lane_with_freshly_trimmed_hedges_-_geograph.org.uk_-_623167.jpg[/url])

Many thanks

Paddy


In that case please ignore my previous post, Paddy. There's nothing like a well trimmed, ahem, hedge ;)
In my case, I am after the terribly unkempt look :-[
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Geoff on February 13, 2015, 04:26:30 PM
Nice work with the hedge paddy I will certainly give that a go, thanks for the info how you made them hedges.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: MalcolmInN on February 13, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
Very nice work, Paddy, and a very useful tutorial.
Seconded :)

Hmmm, once upon a time farmers engaged gangs of men to 'lay' hedges proper like, giving rise to the npn "wild and woolly with large height differences" look :) (the re-growth rate depended upon many things including the cut thickness of the lay and how much live tissue was included )
the caption to that link says
"have recently been trimmed with a mechanical hedge cutter."

So the question arises, when did mechanical hedge trimming by farmers become common place ? 50s, 60s ?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 13, 2015, 04:30:27 PM
When I were a lad my parents used to drag me out 'blackberrying' in the hedgerows (they made lethal home made wine) so Paddy's given me the idea of modelling them at the side of my country lane :idea:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: MalcolmInN on February 13, 2015, 04:37:13 PM
When I were a lad my parents used to drag me out 'blackberrying' in the hedgerows (they made lethal home made wine) so Paddy's given me the idea of modelling them at the side of my country lane :idea:
? modelling your parents in a hedge ? :) :)

I still do ! there is about 5&1/2 gall of lethal brew the other side of this room. The addition of a proportion of elderberry adds extra interest,,,
(/OT)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: MalcolmInN on February 13, 2015, 04:43:03 PM
PS Dont forget to model at least one of them arm outstretched and on tip-toes for that big ripe one that was always just out of arms-length :)

Sorry Paddy  !
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: scotsoft on February 13, 2015, 04:53:05 PM

In my case, I am after the terribly unkempt look :-[

Try a mirror  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :sorrysign:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 13, 2015, 05:04:42 PM
In that case please ignore my previous post, Paddy. There's nothing like a well trimmed, ahem, hedge ;)
In my case, I am after the terribly unkempt look :-[

Not at all Newportbobby.  Nothing wrong with a good 1970s non-trimmed hedge either!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 13, 2015, 05:07:13 PM
Should have known that mentioning trimmed and non-trimmed hedges was likely to raise lots of sniggers...  ::)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Trainfish on February 13, 2015, 07:00:59 PM
A good piece of advice from the golf course: Never eat blackberries which are below waist high!  :worried:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on February 13, 2015, 07:05:31 PM
A good piece of advice from the golf course: Never eat blackberries which are below waist high!  :worried:
Good advice there. Luckily, I don't play golf.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 13, 2015, 08:12:16 PM

In my case, I am after the terribly unkempt look :-[

Try a mirror  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :sorrysign:

 :-* :moony: ;)

When I were a lad my parents used to drag me out 'blackberrying' in the hedgerows (they made lethal home made wine) so Paddy's given me the idea of modelling them at the side of my country lane :idea:
? modelling your parents in a hedge ? :) :)


If it's good enough for the stork, Malcolm, it's good enough for me :D
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on February 13, 2015, 08:37:27 PM
My parents told me it was under the gooseberry bush ???
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: MalcolmInN on February 13, 2015, 10:14:25 PM
Quote from: newportnob
by link=topic=11342.msg284256#msg284256 date=1423844341
In my case, I am after the terribly unkempt look :-[
If I was at all 'unkempt' my parents ( and Gran) would say "you look like you've been dragged through a hedge backwards" :)
A good piece of advice from the golf course: Never eat blackberries which are below waist high!
Good advice, and if not on a golf course but in a field of cows then shoulder height :(

But, in desperate attempt to get back on Paddy's topic ! :) ! laying of hedges vs. machines  it seems that it was all due to (dont mention) the war, decline of labour and advance of the machines, culminating in the 60s with the grubbing up of hedgerows.
There is even a National Hedge Laying Society !
But I dont think they have storks in mind ;)
http://www.hedgelaying.org.uk (http://www.hedgelaying.org.uk)

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 24, 2015, 08:10:42 PM
CHURCH FARM - PART 4 - FARM TRAILER

My apologies for the lack of progress on Church Farm recently but we have had the house re-carpeted so my energies have been directed elsewhere!  Farmer Newman needed a trailer for use on the farm and a search of the internet came up with the Farm Trailer from Lytchett Manor Models.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Lytchett Manor Models Farm Trailer.

The trailer is a white metal casting and at £3.85 it is not too bad.  There are some rough bits but these are hardly noticeable in N Gauge.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. The unpainted trailer as it arrived.

After cleaning up any flashing (very little) the trailer was given a coat of Humbrol Acrylic Primer 1.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. The primed trailer.

The picture supplied with the casting shows a blue trailer but I did not like the look of this.  A search on Google showed that a more suitable colour might be green or yellow.  As I had yellow in my paint box the decision was made to go with this.

The metal work and underneath of the trailer was painted in Humbrol Acrylic Satin Coal Black 85 with the sides (inside and out) painted in Humbrol Acrylic Matt BR Yellow RC407.  The coal black is an excellent paint and covers really well - a single coat was sufficient.  On the other hand the BR yellow has very poor coverage and I must have used 3 or 4 coats in the end.

The floor of the trailer was left primer grey as I liked the look of it once the yellow was applied.  The final job was to paint the wheel centres with Humbrol Acrylic Metallic Silver 11.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. The painted trailer.

Although the floor of the trailer has plank lines scored in to it the overall finish is rather poor.  Adding a load to the trailer would help to disguise this and also make the trailer look used.  A search through my parts tub yielded some sacks and an oil barrel which were primed and the painted in appropriate colours.

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Primed loads.

Once dry the sacks and barrel were stuck in place with super glue and the trailer is ready for use.  Farmer Newman seems rather pleased with his new addition and cannot wait to try it out with his new tractor.

[Limit reached]Photo 6. The finished farm trailer ready for use on Church Farm!

Tip: Not sure if I have mentioned this one before?  Anyway, I have found the wooden tea/coffee stirrers that you get in McDonalds, Costa etc. to be very useful for mixing Humbrol paint.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 24, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
Thanks, Paddy, for the update. Very nice work. I've been using wooden toothpicks to stir Humbrol enamel paint but the wooden coffee stirrers sound a better solution. 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 24, 2015, 08:40:52 PM
Thanks, Paddy. Might treat myself to one (or more) of them :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 24, 2015, 08:52:52 PM
Thanks, Paddy, for the update. Very nice work. I've been using wooden toothpicks to stir Humbrol enamel paint but the wooden coffee stirrers sound a better solution. 8-)

And they are er... "Free"!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 28, 2015, 02:10:28 PM
CHURCH FARM - PART 5

The backscene behind Church Farm is not very rural (see photo 1) so I decided that some trees would help disguise the join.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Original backscene behind Church Farm.

A quick search on Google found some suitable tree artwork and I used this to create a montage in PaintShop Pro.  This was then printed out on high quality paper and carefully cut out using a scalpel (extreme caution advised as I always seem to cut myself!).  It took a couple of tests to get the right size, shape and colours.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Tree overlay artwork.

Once cut out I stuck the tree artwork to the backscene using 3M Spray Mount adhesive (other brands of adhesive are available!).  What a great product 3M Spray Mount is as it avoids bubbling and allows for clean positioning.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Backscene with tree overlay.

You may recall that in part 2 of the Church Farm build I covered how I intend to make the brick walls.  Photo 4 shows the tree overlay with the test wall in front just so you can see the effect I am after.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Tree overlay with test brick wall in front.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 28, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
Very nice work, Paddy. I've been using PaintShop Pro for many years and am very happy with it.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 28, 2015, 02:17:26 PM
Very nice work, Paddy. I've been using PaintShop Pro for many years and am very happy with it.

Thanks Chris.  Totally agree about PSP - it never ceases to amaze me what I can do with it (and I am no expert when it comes to graphics).  My version is 4.15 dating from 1998 and it runs perfectly on Windows 7 64 bit!

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on February 28, 2015, 03:56:08 PM
Very effective Paddy and nicely executed, certainly gives it some depth, food for thought there.  Although I have Adobe CS4 I'm also a PSP user, v5, powerful and simple, what more do you need.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 28, 2015, 04:23:27 PM
These days though, I use PhotoStudio (version 6) more but PaintShop Pro is really all that is needed.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 28, 2015, 06:51:03 PM
Very effective Paddy and nicely executed, certainly gives it some depth, food for thought there.  Although I have Adobe CS4 I'm also a PSP user, v5, powerful and simple, what more do you need.   :thumbsup:

Wow Caz, been looking at your layout - truly amazing and wonderful modelling.  Puts HOLLERTON JUNCTION to shame... I must try harder!  :(

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on March 04, 2015, 12:06:12 AM
I came across this post whilst looking for some inspiration for roads. Some excellent tips here Paddy (and not just on roads!).  Thanks for the information. David.  :beers:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 04, 2015, 10:47:42 AM
I came across this post whilst looking for some inspiration for roads. Some excellent tips here Paddy (and not just on roads!).  Thanks for the information. David.  :beers:

Thanks David - I appreciate your kind words.  Sharing information was the main point of starting the thread on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  Hopefully others can see what works and also the tools/products I used to achieve the results.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Rob H on March 13, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
Hi Paddy,
I'm trying to find the USB computer cleaner you bought on eBay but can't find that particular one, do you have a link please,
Cheers,
Rob.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 13, 2015, 04:57:29 PM
Hi Paddy,
I'm trying to find the USB computer cleaner you bought on eBay but can't find that particular one, do you have a link please,
Cheers,
Rob.

Hi Rob,

Looks like that particular eBayer has moved on.  If you search for "USB vacuum" you will see loads of similar items.  Some are even cheaper than my model!  >:D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on March 13, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
Hi Rob, regarding USB vacuum cleaners - I do not want to 'rain on your parade', but I have had 2 of these in the past and have to say that I was disappointed in the suction power. For cleaning up whilst I get on with my little layout, I use a cordless vacuum cleaner I bought for the car. I have had it for about two years, but if you could see my car, you would realise the cleaner has not had a lot of use  :smiley-laughing: . The cleaner I have is a Black and Decker 'Flexi'. It is a brilliant cleaner with bags, (actually it is bagless), of power. It has a flexi hose, (presumably why it is called 'Flexi'  :) ) and different tools, just like a full size vacuum. They can be picked up for £30/40 - there is one on fleabay going for a fiver if you live in Wigan! (If anyone from B&D is reading, you can show your appreciation, I am not proud.... :laugh: ) David.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 14, 2015, 03:41:34 AM
I agree with Dannyboy - I only use the USB vacuum for "cleaning" the layout for which it works well i.e. dust removal.  It is small and lightweight.  In addition, I purchased a 5m USB cable so I can reach all those hard to get to corners.  :)

For heavy duty cleaning (scatter collection etc.) I bought a Bush handheld vacuum which has been brilliant.  It holds its charge for a long time and has just the right amount of suction for N gauge.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4067874.htm (http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4067874.htm)

The Bush only gets used on HOLLERTON JUNCTION so I can reuse any scatter after vacuuming it up - money saving tip!  ;)

Hope this helps.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 14, 2015, 07:20:26 AM
Thanks, Paddy, I'll see if I can buy one, here.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Rob H on March 14, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
Hi Paddy & dannyboy, thanks for the info. i've tried a few of these over the years and always found them "toy like" and pretty useless, I thought perhaps Paddy had found one that actually had some "suck", not to worry.
I use a Black & Decker Orb-it for general cleaning on the layout, just wanted something for the finer work,

Cheers guys  :beers:

Rob.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 18, 2015, 07:26:03 PM
Work on Church Farm continues and I really need to post the latest update with photos.  One issue I have is how to make hay bales.  I know you can buy cast bales from Harburn etc. but that seems wasteful for such a small item.

I have tried covering small (very) blocks in fine scatter but it looks over scale.  Does anyone have other ideas/suggestions?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on March 18, 2015, 08:01:54 PM
Were you looking for round or square bales ?
Mrs PP has made some excellent round ones for her Descanso Farm layout.
If you are happy with round bales , I'll ask her to describe how they are made.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 19, 2015, 09:04:55 AM
Were you looking for round or square bales ?
Mrs PP has made some excellent round ones for her Descanso Farm layout.
If you are happy with round bales , I'll ask her to describe how they are made.

Hi PP,

I have been looking at the oblong bales as I assumed the round ones are a modern style i.e. post 1968?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 20, 2015, 11:34:17 AM
CHURCH FARM - PART 6

The other day I asked if anyone had suggestions on how to model hay/straw bales for use on Church Farm.  Companies such as Noch, Harburn Hobbies etc. can supply bales but the cost seems very high for what they are (especially in N gauge).

Unlike Mrs PP, I want to use the oblong bales on Church Farm and some research on the internet showed that they are normally 1.5-2 feet wide by 16 inches high and 3-4 feet long.  In N gauge this roughly measures out to 3mm x 3mm x 6mm.  My initial approach was to create cardboard cubes of this size and glue fine scatter to them.  Although this worked it looked rather over scale for N gauge but may be a suitable approach for larger scales.

My next thought was to look at my cheap Sainsbury’s scouring sponge.  These are the same sponges that I use to make my hedges and initially I wondered if the green scourer part could be used “as is” if cut to the appropriate size.  On closer inspection though I felt it was still over scale.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Sainsbury scouring sponge.

My eyes then moved to the yellow sponge part and this looked like it had potential.  A quick flurry with a sharp scalpel and I had a number of appropriately sizes blocks cut from the sponge (these are VERY small).  You could probably leave the blocks in their natural yellow colour but I felt it was a bit too pale.  To tone the sponges down I created some watery Yellow Ochre acrylic paint and soaked the pieces of sponge and letting them dry thoroughly.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Finished hay/straw bales.

Personally I believe these bales look rather good and although close up you can see they are sponge from a few inches they give a good impression of bales.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Trainfish on March 20, 2015, 11:49:19 AM
They look good enough to eat Paddy. (If I was a horse)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on March 20, 2015, 12:32:26 PM
They look good to me.
Can we see a pic of them stacked up some time.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 20, 2015, 12:46:37 PM
They look good enough to eat Paddy. (If I was a horse)

Thanks Trainfish - hopefully the cows on Church Farm will be happy also!  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 20, 2015, 12:47:38 PM
They look good to me.
Can we see a pic of them stacked up some time.

Patience Mr PP - I am sure your request will be accommodated soon!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 20, 2015, 12:52:02 PM
Hi Folks,

More quick money saving tips whilst I think of them...  Of late I have been looking at every day items around the house to see if they can be used in modelling.

Not sure if I have mentioned this one before but I now save the plastic tops of milk bottles as they make excellent paint mixing trays and/or receptacles for glue.  When used simply throw away or recycle - no mess.

The other tip relates to those steel water troughs you see in fields for animals to drink from.  Once again I was not willing to pay for such a small item and I thought the following had potential:

[Limit reached]

If you cut the end of one of the pegs with a Stanley knife you are left with a very credible water trough.  I was intending to paint mine silver but after painting with grey primer they look the part.

Hope this helps.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Trainfish on March 20, 2015, 01:40:35 PM
And waterproof too so you could actually fill them  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 20, 2015, 01:44:30 PM
And waterproof too so you could actually fill them  :thumbsup:

Indeed John.  I have just filled my trough with Humbrol Acrylic Satin Coal Black - just have to wait for it to dry!  :)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 22, 2015, 09:54:38 AM
CHURCH FARM - PART 7

Work on the upper field of Church Farm is complete apart from the addition of some livestock.  The cows have been purchased (eBay bargain by Noch 36722) and are lovely little models.  I was planning on using the PECO Model Scene cows but the Noch ones are far superior and definitely worth the extra money.

As some of you may recall I had a problem with the original farm yard surface bubbling when it was glued down.  I decided to add a new cardboard top (from a cereal packet) painted with Dulux Weathershield textured paint as before.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. New cardboard top on the farm yard area.

There is a 2-3mm step down in to the upper field from the farm yard area.  Ready mixed filler (No More Cracks) was added and smoothed off with sand paper before painting with Dulux to blend it in.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Ramp from farm year down in to the upper field.

The next step was to weather the farm yard and also the area where the grass meets the ramp.  Watery washes of Burnt Umber and Black acrylic paint were used to perform the weathering.  It is best to build the effect up rather than swamping the area and making it over wet.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Weathered farm yard area.

It was now time to detail the upper field area and this consisted of the addition of hedges (see my previous post on how I made these), a farm gate (from the PECO Linside Kit NB-46) painted with Humbrol Acrylic Matt Natural Wood 110.  I also added a small outbuilding which I thought looked the part.  In the photo below you can also see the small pile of hay bales I made.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Completed upper field showing hay bales.

The final photo shows the completed livestock water trough made from the end of a plug scratch protector as detailed previously.

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Completed upper field showing water trough.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 22, 2015, 10:00:04 AM
Excellent work, Paddy. I guess it must be an 'urban farm'? 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on March 22, 2015, 01:49:13 PM
Excellent work, Paddy. I guess it must be an 'urban farm'? 8-)

As you can probably tell Chris, Church Farm was not in the original HOLLERTON JUNCTION plan!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on March 22, 2015, 02:41:13 PM
No matter, Paddy. It looks very good and 'urban farms' are very popular these days.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: georgehgv on April 01, 2015, 04:41:34 AM
 Nice work Paddy, just found your thread from the hedges I mentioned elsewhere, will read later, well done.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 07, 2015, 01:33:15 PM
CHURCH FARM - PART 8

In my last entry I said that I intended to use Noch cows as the livestock for Church Farm.  Whilst these are lovely models it soon became clear that one pack would not be sufficient.  Luckily I still had a pack of the Model Scene Cows (5179) but these are not well painted.  In fact, the Model Scene cows seem to be made from some sort of white plastic with random black splodges over them (nowhere near as good as the “stock” photo below).

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Noch Cows Ref. 36722.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Model Scene Cows Ref. 5179.

The painting of the Model Scene cows leaves a lot to be desired but the actual mouldings are not too bad although not to the Noch standard.  With some careful painting I thought the Model Scene cows could be brought up to a suitable standard.  One must also remember that the Model Scene cows typically cost £2-2.50 per pack whereas the Noch ones are around £10.

The Noch cows look like some sort of Jersey breed and I wanted the Model Scene cows to look similar.  After looking in my paint box I selected the following paints:


Step 1.  Each Model Scene cow received a couple of coats of matt white to cover the black patches and to provide a good surface for the top coat.

Step 2. The cows were then given two coats of natural wood which funnily enough is a rather good colour for a cow.

Step 3. Once dry the hooves and nose of each cow were carefully dabbed with dirty black.

Step 4. Finally the udders of the cows were painted with matt flesh.

The end result can be seen in photo 3 below and I believe they can almost hold their own with the Noch cows.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Completed Model Scene cows.

Work of the farm yard has been ongoing and I will post an update in due course.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 07, 2015, 04:56:12 PM
Nice work, Paddy. I agree the Noch models are much better than the Model Scene ones.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 07, 2015, 05:59:54 PM
Totally agree Chris but to be fair they do cost 4x as much.  You get what you pay for...

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 08, 2015, 07:35:55 PM
CHURCH FARM - PART 9

Work on Church Farm is progressing well with the farm yard almost complete.  Here are a couple of photos to wet your appetites and to prove I am not telling porkies!  ;)

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The main focus is now on the lower field which is having hedges planted around the boundaries before additional livestock can be added.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 08, 2015, 07:41:17 PM
Excellent scenic work, Paddy; highly realistic. I look forward to more photos., in due course.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on April 09, 2015, 05:38:33 AM
Make sure that Ted is always on hand to sort out the drainage in the lower field.
(If you never watched 'The Fast Show' that comment will make no sense at all)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on April 15, 2015, 10:13:04 PM
Hi Paddy,
I managed to find some very reasonable (read cheap) livestock from Country Scenes & Trees and, though probably not as wonderful as the Noch ones, are very good for the price.
See below, although the pic doesn't do them justice :-[

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/26/thumb_24073.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=24073)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 15, 2015, 10:21:46 PM
Thanks Newportnobby, those cattle do look interesting.  I have glued my Model Scene cows and the remainder of the Noch ones in to the lower field and I am happy with result.

I have now moved on to pigs!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 16, 2015, 11:23:06 PM
Pigs are done and I even have Ed Grundy shovelling pig .... in one of the sty pens!  :D

Church Farm is almost finished - just the milk churns and their stand to go!

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 17, 2015, 05:09:30 AM
Looking forward to the photo. update, Paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 17, 2015, 06:46:33 AM
I know Chris... photos have been sadly lacking of late.  :(

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 17, 2015, 12:43:54 PM
CHURCH FARM - PART 10

Church Farm is now basically complete!  There may be some additional detailing but the bulk of the modelling is done.  Below are a selection of images that show the completed area - enjoy!

[Limit reached]Photo 1.  Mollie Newman (farmer’s wife) can be seen in the garden with Joe Grundy shovelling “something” in the pig sty.

[Limit reached]Photo 2.  Entrance to the upper field

[Limit reached]Photo 3.  Pig sty.

[Limit reached]Photo 4.  Overall view of farm yard with Eric Newman standing by the barn.

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Entrance to the lower field.

[Limit reached]Photo 6. Another view of the lower field with cattle grazing.

[Limit reached]Photo 7. Country lane leading to Church Farmhouse plus Mollie’s Morris Traveller.

This has been a much larger project than I had anticipated with well over 2 months work!

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on April 17, 2015, 12:56:02 PM
Very nice modelling work there, Paddy. Highly realistic. Many thanks for the photos.

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on April 17, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
Smashing modelling, Paddy :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: MinZaPint on April 17, 2015, 04:42:35 PM
Great pictures :wonderfulmodelling:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 17, 2015, 05:17:11 PM
Thanks Folks - it never ceases to amaze me how long modelling takes even when using RTP buildings.  I now have enormous respect for the work of others even though my humble efforts are nothing amazing.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on April 17, 2015, 06:11:44 PM
What a lovely little farm and the narrative brings it all alive, great work Paddy and great pictures to boot.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: georgehgv on April 27, 2015, 05:40:15 PM
Thanks Folks - it never ceases to amaze me how long modelling takes even when using RTP buildings.  I now have enormous respect for the work of others even though my humble efforts are nothing amazing.

Paddy

I have loads of scenery work to do, it seems to take ages but I must agree with the others Paddy your photos and dialogue are excellent, makes vey interesting reading and not loads of boring text, the whole thread seems "alive" .
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on April 27, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
Thanks George.  If I have managed to entertain and inform in some small way then I am very pleased.  What has amazed me is that modelers are expected to know so many techniques.  Even in magazines you see phrases like "...in the time honoured way..." but that meant nothing to me.  So for better or worse I have tried to document everything I have done, good and bad.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on April 27, 2015, 06:22:52 PM
That is very good work indeed and lovely pictures.
I agree with others, the little story brings it all to life.
Excellent stuff.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 03, 2015, 01:07:32 PM
I hope everyone is having a great bank holiday weekend?

It is wet here so that means my thoughts have turned to what I would like to achieve this month on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  Looking at the layout I believe it is time to finish off Hollerton Bus Garage, Goods and Motive Power Depot...

So today's job is to clean this area up and prepare the surfaces for detailing and I have just started to paint some Model Scene Bicycles (# 5189) to go in the MPD bicycle shed.

More to come...

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 03, 2015, 01:21:57 PM
Looking forward to the photo. updates, in due course, Paddy. It's cool, here, with light cloud but I am still too busy with work to restart railway modelling, yet.

I am selling my original Graham Farish BR Maroon LMR BG and GUV.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 03, 2015, 01:36:32 PM
Looking forward to the photo. updates, in due course, Paddy. It's cool, here, with light cloud but I am still too busy with work to restart railway modelling, yet.

Thanks Chris.  Wow these bicycles are small - I could do with your amazing eyesight!  :goggleeyes:

Still, I now have four red framed bicycles.  Yellow next...

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 03, 2015, 01:58:42 PM
That's one advantage of being short-sighted, Paddy. I can see very well close-up. However, I need very fine, high quality paintbrushes, I have discovered for detail work!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 03, 2015, 02:02:04 PM
That's one advantage of being short-sighted, Paddy. I can see very well close-up. However, I need very fine, high quality paintbrushes, I have discovered for detail work!

Agreed Chris and where possible I tend to use Sable brushes.  The red and green bikes are coming on well but the yellow has not covered very well.  Wonder why yellow is always a difficult colour?  Looks like those four bikes will need another coat.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 03, 2015, 03:12:05 PM
Another tip from experience: use a matt grey or matt white undercoat and then several thin layers of paint rather than one thick one (tempting though that is).
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 03, 2015, 07:16:31 PM
MODEL SCENE BICYCLES # 5189

Hollerton’s Goods and Motive Power Depot needed some bicycles to populate the bike shed.  Luckily I already had a pack of Model Scene Bicycles and at roughly £4 for 12 they are good value.  As can be seen in the photo below they come in a sort of grey plastic and although you could use them “as is” they will benefit from some careful painting.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Model Scene Bicycles # 5189.

The following paints were selected for the bike frames (4 in each colour):
The handle bars and wheel spokes were painted in Humbrol Acrylic Metallic Silver 11.  Finally the tyres and seat were given a coat of Humbrol Acrylic Satin Coal Black 85.   I decided to paint the bikes whilst they were still attached to their sprues and this proved to be a good idea as they are VERY small.  Also, you will need a small, fine brush - I used a 3/0.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Painted Bicycles.

In the main the paint adhered to the plastic very well although for some reason the BR Yellow gave poor coverage and required a number of coats.  Once the bicycles have dried they can be removed from the sprues and a couple of them glued in to the bike shed.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 03, 2015, 07:26:50 PM
Well done, Paddy. Having tried to paint some white metal Italian style motor scooters, I can imagine how fiddly a task that was!

I look forward to further updates, in due course.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 03, 2015, 07:29:21 PM
Well done, Paddy. Having tried to paint some white metal Italian style motor scooters, I can imagine how fiddly a task that was!

I look forward to further updates, in due course.

Thanks Chris, it is your detailed painting results that inspire me to try and do better.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 03, 2015, 07:43:48 PM
Well done, Paddy. Having tried to paint some white metal Italian style motor scooters, I can imagine how fiddly a task that was!

I look forward to further updates, in due course.

Thanks Chris, it is your detailed painting results that inspire me to try and do better.

Paddy

Seriously, I'm flattered, Paddy. I will be documenting more attempts, this summer with the ex-LNER CCTs and Gresley BGs. I also have more wagons and vans to build / paint.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 04, 2015, 02:08:47 PM
Just a quick update to show the bike shed with newly painted bicycles installed.

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More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 04, 2015, 02:34:52 PM
Very nice work, Paddy. I have a German plastic kit of a simple corrugated steel roofed  bike shed plus bikes for Cant Cove loco. shed and have already attempted to paint the bikes but not as well as yours as I did not have fine enough brushes. I will have to have another go at tidying them up!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 04, 2015, 03:13:12 PM
Funny thing is that now I have glued the bike shed on the layout I cannot really see the bikes!  :(

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 04, 2015, 03:15:06 PM
Funny thing is that now I have glued the bike shed on the layout I cannot really see the bikes!  :(

Paddy

I had thought about that but thought it best to keep quiet! My bike shed is open on all sides.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 04, 2015, 03:38:52 PM
I had thought about that but thought it best to keep quiet! My bike shed is open on all sides.

You are such a diplomat Chris!  ;)

But as you once told me, at least I know the bikes are there...

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 04, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
More detailing work on the Hollerton depots.  This time I have added Bill and Frank to the coaling stage to bring it to life.  The stage is a standard Hornby Lyddle End product (# N8057) which saldy is no longer produced.  Having said that I am sure examples can be found on eBay occasionally but expect to pay more than the original £3 price!

[Limit reached]Photo 1.  Populated coaling stage.

The depots have been crying out for a suitable office and it was looking like a scratch build might be in order - or some kind of bashing.  I then came across the Graham Farish Scenecraft Fuelling Point Pump House (# 42-128) at a very reasonable price.  ;)

It was not clear from the photos (or the box) whether the supplied platform is attached to the office building - a quick check showed that it is not.  This does mean the entrance door is rather high off the ground but the addition of some steps cured that problem.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Depot office with added steps.

Now for some quick product recommendations - I have no connection with the companies that make these products and other brands are available!  :D

The first is the Humbrol Enamel washes of which I have purchased the Dark Grey and Brown.  These washes are expensive (approximately £5 per bottle) but they do work well when used for dry brushing.  As they are enamel they do smell somewhat but I have found them easy to use and can recommend their use.

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Finally, a rather strange object as it is a baking wash brush from Sainsburys!  At £1.50 it is a bargain and is perfect for lightly brushing detritus from buildings etc. on the layout.   The bristles are very soft yet have sufficient resistence to be effective and the wooden handle is a pleasure to hold.

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Full details can be found here:

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/millenium-pastry-brush (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/millenium-pastry-brush)

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: johnlambert on May 04, 2015, 04:21:05 PM
Bike shed, coal stage and depot office look good.

Never thought about a pastry brush for applying washes to models, makes sense though.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on May 04, 2015, 04:21:50 PM
Those buildings look really good Paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 04, 2015, 04:25:02 PM
Never thought about a pastry brush for applying washes to models, makes sense though.

Thanks John.

Just to clarify, I use the pastry brush for "dusting" HOLLERTON JUNCTION and not for applying washes.  However, the brush would probably work very well for this so a good idea.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 04, 2015, 05:22:28 PM
Very nice buildings and useful tips, Paddy. Many thanks. You might want to paint the door LMR Maroon?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Caz on May 04, 2015, 07:47:44 PM
Funny thing is that now I have glued the bike shed on the layout I cannot really see the bikes!  :(

Paddy

But you know they are they and they look great to boot.   I've lost count of the little detail items I've created and once on the layout they seem to disappear.   :(
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on May 04, 2015, 08:00:17 PM
Funny thing is that now I have glued the bike shed on the layout I cannot really see the bikes!  :(

Paddy

But you know they are they and they look great to boot.   I've lost count of the little detail items I've created and once on the layout they seem to disappear.   :(
That reminds me, I have a bike rack and cycles kit to make up and paint for Trepol Bay.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 04, 2015, 09:05:22 PM
But you know they are they and they look great to boot.   I've lost count of the little detail items I've created and once on the layout they seem to disappear.   :(

Indeed Caz but it is gratifying to know they are there.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 04, 2015, 09:08:26 PM
Funny thing is that now I have glued the bike shed on the layout I cannot really see the bikes!  :(

Paddy

But you know they are they and they look great to boot.   I've lost count of the little detail items I've created and once on the layout they seem to disappear.   :(
That reminds me, I have a bike rack and cycles kit to make up and paint for Trepol Bay.

I look forward to seeing your version Port Perran.

Best of luck.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 14, 2015, 12:37:06 PM
HOLLERTON GOODS DEPOT UPDATE

Time for a couple of photos to show the progress I have made on HOLLERTON JUNCTION’s goods depot.  The first photo shows a load that I made for a B-T Models Karrier Bantam Artic Flatbed (N011) which is a lovely little model.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Karrier Bantam with load.

The second photo shows an overall shot of the goods depot with added buildings and people.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Goods depot.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 14, 2015, 01:35:24 PM
That's an excellent load, Paddy. Can you tell me how you made the banding for the crates please?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 14, 2015, 02:06:46 PM
That's an excellent load, Paddy. Can you tell me how you made the banding for the crates please?

Thanks Newportnobby.  The crates are a collection of parts that I had in my spares box.  Some are definitely from Merit/Model Scene and others I have no idea.

The crates were glued together then primed.  Once dry they were painted with Humbrol Acrylic Natural Wood and finally dry brushed with dark brown to bring out the details.

Hope this helps.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 14, 2015, 04:09:03 PM
Very nice work, Paddy. Those rails though could do with some weathering to tone down their brightness?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 14, 2015, 07:21:41 PM
Very nice work, Paddy. Those rails though could do with some weathering to tone down their brightness?

I actually like the rails bright Chris.  I know, rather strange but it was the look I was aiming for originally.  What grates on me though is the Code 80 track - it is enormous and very much out of scale.  Time PECO released a Code 55 Setrack.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 14, 2015, 07:53:10 PM
Thanks for your reply, Paddy. I understand; it's your railway. I agree though that Code 55 rails look much better than Code 80.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 14, 2015, 08:13:43 PM
Thanks for your reply, Paddy. I understand; it's your railway. I agree though that Code 55 rails look much better than Code 80.

Unfortunately HOLLERTON JUNCTION's track plan would not fit on my baseboard using Code 55 so Setrack it had to be.  :(

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 14, 2015, 08:25:50 PM
A pity, Paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 31, 2015, 04:20:01 PM
HOLLERTON BUS GARAGE UPDATE

Well I know how much Chris likes the “Little People” so I thought it was time the cast of “On the Buses” made an appearance!

[Limit reached]Photo 1. The Manager, Blakey, Stan and Jack.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Arthur, Olive, Little Arthur and Mum.

It has to be said that On the Buses was a programme of its time and probably would not be made today but I love it.  So in memory of the programme and its main characters here is a cast list:

Inspector Cyril "Blakey" Blake
  - Stephen Lewis (Now 88)

Stan Butler
  - Reg Varney (Died 2008)

Jack Harper
  - Bob Grant (Died 2003)

The Manager
  - Michael Sheard (Died 2005)

Arthur Rudge
  - Michael Robbins (Died 1992)

Olive Rudge
  - Anna Karen (Now 78)

Little Arthur
  - Zachary Wolfe (Alive)

Mabel Butler "Mum"
  - Doris Hare (Died 2000)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on May 31, 2015, 04:21:34 PM
Great programme in its day.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 31, 2015, 05:22:26 PM
Many thanks, indeed, Paddy. I do, indeed, enjoy seeing pictures of 'Little People and yours are very well painted indeed. Thanks, too, for the detailed explanation of who is who.

I will be painting some little people shortly, too: 1960s trackworkers, trawlermen and passengers and workers. I will be posting pictures. I also have some more of the 'Chelsea Girls' back from their ski-ing holidays in Germany! 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 24, 2015, 05:27:58 PM
HOLLERTON GAS WORKS UPDATE

There was something missing from Hollerton Gas Works as the main entrance area looked empty.  It suddenly dawned on me that a flatbed lorry with coal sacks would look rather neat.  The obvious candidate seemed to be the Karrier Bantam lorry from BT-Models and one was acquired.  In the box the model looked perfect but once taken out its poor quality sadly became obvious.  Other BT-Models I have are very good but the quality of moulding on this particular lorry means that the cab slopes and the trailer is not level.  After much fettling I managed to resolve most of the issues but I would advise caution when buying this model.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. BT-Models Karrier Bantam Flatbed Lorry (1962-72) NP007.

The sacks that will form the load are sold by BR Lines and come in a pack of approximately 150 for 75p.  I am not sure if these are actually moulds of sacks or just waste plastic, either way they are rather effective.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. BR Lines Sacks.

The sacks were glued together using plastic weld and then primed using Humbrol Acrylic Primer 1.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Sacks glued together prior to priming.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Primed sack load.

Once primed the sacks were painted with various shades of grey to look something like the following photo:

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BFAKGY/north-wales-uk-november-a-coal-merchants-lorry-loaded-with-sacks-of-BFAKGY.jpg (http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BFAKGY/north-wales-uk-november-a-coal-merchants-lorry-loaded-with-sacks-of-BFAKGY.jpg)

Finally, the tops of the sacks were give a spot of Humbrol Acrylic Satin Coal Black 85 to represent the contents.

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Finished lorry with coal sack load.

[Limit reached]Photo 6. Finished lorry with coal sack load.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2015, 05:32:17 PM
HOLLERTON BUS GARAGE UPDATE

Well I know how much Chris likes the “Little People” so I thought it was time the cast of “On the Buses” made an appearance!

[Limit reached]Photo 1. The Manager, Blakey, Stan and Jack.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Arthur, Olive, Little Arthur and Mum.

It has to be said that On the Buses was a programme of its time and probably would not be made today but I love it.  So in memory of the programme and its main characters here is a cast list:

Inspector Cyril "Blakey" Blake
  - Stephen Lewis (Now 88)

Stan Butler
  - Reg Varney (Died 2008)

Jack Harper
  - Bob Grant (Died 2003)

The Manager
  - Michael Sheard (Died 2005)

Arthur Rudge
  - Michael Robbins (Died 1992)

Olive Rudge
  - Anna Karen (Now 78)

Little Arthur
  - Zachary Wolfe (Alive)

Mabel Butler "Mum"
  - Doris Hare (Died 2000)

Many thanks

Paddy

Excellent painting, Paddy. Far better than mine, alas.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2015, 06:45:28 PM
HOLLERTON GAS WORKS UPDATE

There was something missing from Hollerton Gas Works as the main entrance area looked empty.  It suddenly dawned on me that a flatbed lorry with coal sacks would look rather neat.  The obvious candidate seemed to be the Karrier Bantam lorry from BT-Models and one was acquired.  In the box the model looked perfect but once taken out its poor quality sadly became obvious.  Other BT-Models I have are very good but the quality of moulding on this particular lorry means that the cab slopes and the trailer is not level.  After much fettling I managed to resolve most of the issues but I would advise caution when buying this model.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. BT-Models Karrier Bantam Flatbed Lorry (1962-72) NP007.

The sacks that will form the load are sold by BR Lines and come in a pack of approximately 150 for 75p.  I am not sure if these are actually moulds of sacks or just waste plastic, either way they are rather effective.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. BR Lines Sacks.

The sacks were glued together using plastic weld and then primed using Humbrol Acrylic Primer 1.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Sacks glued together prior to priming.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Primed sack load.

Once primed the sacks were painted with various shades of grey to look something like the following photo:

[url]http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BFAKGY/north-wales-uk-november-a-coal-merchants-lorry-loaded-with-sacks-of-BFAKGY.jpg[/url] ([url]http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BFAKGY/north-wales-uk-november-a-coal-merchants-lorry-loaded-with-sacks-of-BFAKGY.jpg[/url])

Finally, the tops of the sacks were give a spot of Humbrol Acrylic Satin Coal Black 85 to represent the contents.

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Finished lorry with coal sack load.

[Limit reached]Photo 6. Finished lorry with coal sack load.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy


Another really excellent piece of model work, Paddy. I have two identical (older) BT Models lorries which I'm repainting in "Castle Estates" blue for Trepol Bay and Cant Cove. I also plan to make identical removable loads for them.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 24, 2015, 08:18:47 PM
Well I hope your lorries are better than mine Chris.  My model was very realistic as it was obviously assembled by British Leyland in the 1970s!  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 24, 2015, 08:42:15 PM
Well I hope your lorries are better than mine Chris.  My model was very realistic as it was obviously assembled by British Leyland in the 1970s!  :D

Paddy

As you probably have already discovered, Paddy, the body is attached to the chassis by small screws underneath. I have managed to separate mine into cab, chassis, and load platform which should make repainting them easier. However, I have not (at least yet) found a way to remove the glazing from the cab. I will post pictures on my Cant Cove thread.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 24, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
Yes indeed Chris.  I had to replace one of the screws on mine as it was too long and silver!  I bought this lorry new so I can only assume it left the factory in that state.  I also had to file the cab, chassis and trailer to get them to assemble correctly.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on June 24, 2015, 09:48:43 PM
The sacks look great, Paddy, but I wouldn't want to hump lug one about :worried:
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Post by: Mito on June 24, 2015, 10:00:36 PM
The finished truck looks great. Well done :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 25, 2015, 08:13:21 AM
The sacks look great, Paddy, but I wouldn't want to hump lug one about :worried:

Ah men were men in those days!  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 25, 2015, 09:41:55 AM
Inspector Blake is very happy this morning as his new Mini has arrived at Hollerton Bus Garage.  Hopefully this will allow the Inspector to keep an eye on Stan and Jack whilst they are out and about!  Mind you, the Inspector's last Mini ended up being crushed when Stan reversed his bus in to it.  :D

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Oxford Diecast Austin Mini NMN003.

On a modelling note - the green of the Mini is an exact match of the green Crosville buses.

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on June 25, 2015, 11:04:03 AM
Very nice indeed,  Paddy. Best regards, Chris.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on June 25, 2015, 02:54:58 PM
MODELLING TIP

The following probably applies to all manner of restoration jobs involving plastic.  The other day I bought an old Lima box van off eBay only to find that two sides were yellowed with age.  As some of you will know this problem affects all manner of "white" plastic that is a number of years old.

Searching the internet for a solution I came across Retr0bright which basically uses Hydrogen Peroxide as its main active ingredient to reverse this aging process:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retr0bright (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retr0bright)

You mix the ingredients together to form a cream and then apply it to the discoloured plastic.  After a few days in a UV light source (sun light will do) the plastic will return to its former glory.  Making my own Retr0bright seemed rather long winded especially for one N gauge box van.  :D

Another Google search for products containing Hydrogen Peroxide came up with Jerome Russell B Blonde Cream Peroxide which is used by ladies to lighten their hair.  Even better news this product comes as a cream, has a strong concentration (12%) of Hydrogen Peroxide and only costs around £1.50 per bottle - result!

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http://www.boots.com/en/Jerome-Russell-B-Blonde-Cream-Peroxide-for-Medium-to-Dark-Brown-Hair-75ml_1110807/?cm_mmc=pla-_-google-_-PLAs-_-Boots+Shopping+-+Category+-+Toiletries (http://www.boots.com/en/Jerome-Russell-B-Blonde-Cream-Peroxide-for-Medium-to-Dark-Brown-Hair-75ml_1110807/?cm_mmc=pla-_-google-_-PLAs-_-Boots+Shopping+-+Category+-+Toiletries)

The two discoloured sides of my box van have had the cream applied a few times and been left in the window sill.  The results so far are very good although a word of warning, be patient.  You need to re-apply the cream every few hours as it dries and the process will probably take 2-3 days.

Normal disclaimers apply plus be careful with hands, eyes and clothes as Hydrogen Peroxide is a nasty substance.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 03, 2015, 08:44:12 PM
ROLLING STOCK UPDATE

Well after many months of searching I have finally managed to add a Minitrix Shock Van in BR Bauxite to the HOLLERTON JUNCTION fleet.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. This is not actually my wagon - I will post one of mine when I have taken it.

This particular model seems to be rarer than hens teeth unlike its grey counterpart.

Although I have been after this wagon I have been unable to find any information about it.  Does anyone know when these were made?  Were they part of the Hornby Minitrix range?  I assume only a small number were made given their rarity?

Any information would be gratefully received.

Have a great weekend.

Paddy
Dream It | Believe It | Achieve It

P.S. I bet this is the point where everyone tells me they have dozens of these wagons!  :D

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2015, 09:03:41 PM
Hi Paddy, I have one in BR Bauxite and one in BR Grey. I think the BR Bauxite one was described as rare. I think mine was bought 'loose' so I'm unable to help with its history but I suspect it was Hornby Minitrix. They are nice models.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 03, 2015, 09:41:50 PM
Mine came in a job lot too Chris.  Unboxed but in mint condition.  I am very pleased as it ended up costing me less than £10.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 03, 2015, 09:57:53 PM
Mine came in a job lot too Chris.  Unboxed but in mint condition.  I am very pleased as it ended up costing me less than £10.

Paddy

I think you also got a bargain then, Paddy, as the BR Bauxite ones rarely come up for sale. I look forward to seeing the photo. of yours running through Hollerton Junction.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 05, 2015, 11:48:10 AM
ROLLING STOCK UPDATE

As promised here is a photo of my new (well probably 30+ years old) Minitrix Shock Van in BR Bauxite.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Minitrix Shock Van in BR Bauxite.

Also, another two additions to the fleet in the form of 50 ton bogie sulphate wagons.  The wagon in BR Bauxite is an original Poole version on which I have replaced the wheels with low profile, blackened ones.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Graham Farish (Poole) 50 Ton Bogie Sulphate in BR Bauxite 3202.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Graham Farish by Bachmann 50 Ton Bogie Sulphate in NE Grey 373-425.

Many thanks

Paddy
Dream It | Believe It | Achieve It
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 05, 2015, 12:36:00 PM
Hi Paddy. Many thanks for those excellent photos. I have repainted a variety of these Graham Farish open bogie wagons as "Castle Estates" quarry granite stone carrying wagons. I also have GWR Loco Coal one. Where did you get the low profile, blackened wheels from, please, as I have an old bogie wagon that has the 'silver' wheels and the one with black wheels definitely looks better. (I will post pictures, later.)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 05, 2015, 12:47:14 PM
Hi Chris,

Thanks for your kind words.  The wheels are standard Graham Farish replacements, see:

http://www.ehattons.com/stocklist/1000398/1000589/1000655/0/Graham_Farish_N_Gauge_Wheel_sets/prodlist.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/stocklist/1000398/1000589/1000655/0/Graham_Farish_N_Gauge_Wheel_sets/prodlist.aspx)

As for the bogie wagons, I would suggest not repainting any decent bauxite ones as they seem quite rare.  The grey versions are plentiful but tend to go for quite high prices on eBay too.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 05, 2015, 12:57:33 PM
Hi Chris,

Thanks for your kind words.  The wheels are standard Graham Farish replacements, see:

[url]http://www.ehattons.com/stocklist/1000398/1000589/1000655/0/Graham_Farish_N_Gauge_Wheel_sets/prodlist.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.ehattons.com/stocklist/1000398/1000589/1000655/0/Graham_Farish_N_Gauge_Wheel_sets/prodlist.aspx[/url])

As for the bogie wagons, I would suggest not repainting any decent bauxite ones as they seem quite rare.  The grey versions are plentiful but tend to go for quite high prices on eBay too.

Many thanks

Paddy


Thanks, Paddy, for your quick reply. I have a pack of Graham Farish wagon wheels. I need to check if they will do the job. I think most of them were the grey ones (also easier to repaint in blue) and I only bought those that went for a low price so, quite often, I lost out to those that needed them more than I. I have one or two more coming. I'm planning to have a rake of three "Castle Estates" quarry granite stone carrying wagons. One has already gone to Port Perran and I think at least one has also gone to another layout.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 07, 2015, 07:26:02 PM
HOLLERTON GAS WORKS UPDATE

Hollerton Gas Works needed a pile of coal in the corner of the yard and the obvious solution was to make one.  Luckily I have access to a few lumps of real coal and I thought how hard can it be to break that up!
 
[Limit reached]Photo 1. Lump of real coal.

The first thing I found out is that real coal is a rather hard material that tends to shatter when hit with a hammer.  This means pieces fly all over the place so definitely do this outside.  Also, try and find an old tin that you can place the coal in when hitting it to make the retention and collection of the bits easier.  To make my coal lumps look N gauge I gave it a final grind in a pestle and mortar.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Box with modelled pile of coal.

Next I found an old box lid and lined this with some aluminium foil to stop the glue sticking to the cardboard.  The coal was then piled up in one corner and given a good soaking with PVA/water mix and left for 24 hours to dry.  The pile was then gently removed from the foil (which did its job well) and can be seen below.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Completed pile of coal.

Although this process is time consuming it does have the advantage of low cost and the ability to create coal piles/loads of exactly the right shape/size.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Dream It | Believe It | Achieve It
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: MinZaPint on July 07, 2015, 07:39:59 PM
 "To make my coal lumps look N gauge I gave it a final grind in a pestle and mortar."

I think I'll pass on your offer of the home made curry with freshly ground spices, the food could be self igniting!  :o
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 07, 2015, 08:37:39 PM
Thanks for the photos. and detailed explanation, Paddy. Excellent work.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 07, 2015, 09:23:37 PM
"To make my coal lumps look N gauge I gave it a final grind in a pestle and mortar."

I think I'll pass on your offer of the home made curry with freshly ground spices, the food could be self igniting!  :o

Not sure my wife approved either!  :(

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 07, 2015, 09:26:31 PM
"To make my coal lumps look N gauge I gave it a final grind in a pestle and mortar."

I think I'll pass on your offer of the home made curry with freshly ground spices, the food could be self igniting!  :o

I always thought most curries were self igniting, David :laugh:

Nice to see another modelling use for aluminium foil, Paddy :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 08, 2015, 09:47:13 AM
Nice to see another modelling use for aluminium foil, Paddy :thumbsup:

There are loads of things around the house that can be used in modelling - you just need to look.  :goggleeyes:

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 08, 2015, 09:52:16 AM
Maybe that's why my place looks like a tip, Paddy :-[
It's full of 'that'll come in useful' stuff :doh:

As an ex sales rep selling aluminium foil (mainly in confectionery packaging) I just like to see other uses found for it :D
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 08, 2015, 10:22:26 AM
Ah so insider knowledge eh!  But I agree, the trouble is that you do end up with a lot of "rubbish" if not careful.  Personally I tend to have a bit of clear out every few weeks.  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 14, 2015, 07:52:30 PM
Hi Folks,

Right time for a quick modelling tip.  Have you ever struggled to mix paint that comes in the tinlets like Humbrol use?  In the past I have used cocktail sticks, those screwdrivers you get in Christmas Crackers, wooden coffee stirrers obtained from places like McDonalds with varying degrees of success.

Whilst watching a YouTube modelling video the other day I noticed that the chap "mixes" hits tinlets by clapping them in to the palm of his hand.  Simply repeat the clapping for 10-20 seconds and you have a very well mixed tin of paint - well it certainly works for Humbrol Acrylics.  Also there is no mess or wasted paint!

Hope this helps.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 14, 2015, 07:54:39 PM
Many thanks, Paddy. I'll (carefully) try that with my tins of Humbrol enamel paint.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 14, 2015, 07:58:17 PM
Many thanks, Paddy. I'll (carefully) try that with my tins of Humbrol enamel paint.

Hi Chris,

Hopefully it will work with enamels too although I rarely use them these days.  I could not believe how effective this method of paint mixing is though.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 14, 2015, 08:18:05 PM
HOLLERTON GAS WORKS UPDATE

A lot of detailing work has been completed on Hollerton Gas Works over the last few days.  One item that was needed was a yard crane and luckily I had one of the Ratio kits already in stock (item code 214).

Now a word of warning, this is one very fiddly kit to build.  Don't get me wrong, as with most Ratio kits the quality is very high but the pieces are tiny and you are expected to "fabricate" certain parts like the winding handle.  Given my eyesight and the size of the yard crane I decided on a simpler build and after careful painting and dry brushing I am very pleased with the result.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Completed Ratio Yard Crane 214.

Please excuse the quality of the photo - I have a new camera and I am getting used to it!  :confused1:

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Dream It | Believe It | Achieve It
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 14, 2015, 08:22:58 PM
Just needs the superglued taut thread for the cable now, Paddy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 15, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
HOLLERTON GAS WORKS UPDATE

Well after a lot of faffing I have finally finished Hollerton Gas Works.  This consisted of adding clutter, people, coal, vehicles and general weathering of the site.  You can see the results below...

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Also, the chaps at Hollerton Goods Depot are over the moon with their new Class 08 diesel shunter.  Number D3406 was delivered new from Derby Works resplendent in British Railways green with late crest.  The 08 has already been christened "Dick" in honour of Dr Beaching and is expected to replace the current Jinty 0-6-0 shunter.

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Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy


Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 15, 2015, 05:49:13 PM
Very nice work indeed, Paddy. The workers certainly know how to keep everything very neat and tidy. Is the manger an ex-Army RSM? 8-)

The Class 08 is indeed a lovely model. I'm after one of these, too, as a Wadebridge sub-shedded example from St. Blazey that will occasionally pass through Cant Cove with china clay wagons for service by the C&W fitters at Penmayne depot. So, it's not a priority. Cant Cove has its Drewry 0-6-0 (later Class 04) whilst Penmayne has its BR / Drewry 0-6-0 D2398 (later Class 03) in both BR Green and BR Blue whilst one of the Wadebridge, sub-shedded from St. Blazey,  BR / Drewry 0-6-0s, D2127, will occasionally pass through Cant Cove on its way for attention at Penmayne depot. Sooner or later GF will bring out one in the same livery as yours (unweathered). A WR one with the yellow spot route restriction code under the running number would be very nice!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 15, 2015, 05:50:42 PM
Dr. Beaching must be a very popular local MD, then. 8-)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 15, 2015, 09:49:35 PM
Everything in its place and a place for everything Chris.  :D

As for the Class 08, in the end I bought a Steel Worker train set and sold the track and controller.  Got a very good price on the set so it endd up cheaper than buying the loco and three wagons on their own.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on July 15, 2015, 09:54:09 PM
Looks good Paddy. A job very well done and the 08 looks a picture.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 15, 2015, 09:56:28 PM
Ah! I had thought that was where it came from, Paddy. I was tempted to buy the same set and sell off everything except the loco.! But I'll be patient. Glad you got a bargain. I only hope my new ex-GWR diesel railcar in Crimson & Cream, like one of BR's very last ones, at Worcester is as good.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 15, 2015, 10:24:42 PM
Gasworks looks very good, Paddy, but the gas holder needs an awful lot of rusting up. :hmmm:
If you do a nice job I'll send you mine to do as well, if you please :D ;)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 16, 2015, 08:47:27 AM
Hi Chris,

The set was £90 and I also wanted the three Iron Ore hoppers which meant the loco and wagons ended up costing less than £70.  Lovely jubly!  :D

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 16, 2015, 08:51:44 AM
Gasworks looks very good, Paddy, but the gas holder needs an awful lot of rusting up. :hmmm:
If you do a nice job I'll send you mine to do as well, if you please :D ;)

Hi Newportnobby,

I know what you mean plus the gas holder is far too small compared to a real one.  As for rusting I find it very difficult to change these Lyddle End buildings given what they sell for these days.  I glue them down lightly with PVA and live with them.

May be one day I will be more brave!  :(

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on July 16, 2015, 09:16:55 AM
I think the gas holder looks fine, Paddy. Judging by the neatness of the yard, I'm sure the gas works' manager would ensure that the holder was regularly repainted to keep rust at bay. You might try a wash of water colour black paint over it (from a cheap children's paint set) as that can be easily washed off if you ever needed to sell the gas holder?

Having just bought / paid to have DCC-fitted more motive power (so my brother can bring them all over, I hope) I will have to resist buying the Steelworker set, I'm afraid but you definitely got a bargain there, Paddy. Well done.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 16, 2015, 09:24:42 AM
Thanks Chris, I knew you would come up with a suitable excuse!  ;)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on July 16, 2015, 09:36:27 AM
I agree. That white needs dulling down as it currently attracts the eye to it too readily. As Chris suggests a wash of black or perhaps black/brown mix would od the job.

Martin
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on July 16, 2015, 12:54:33 PM
You lot are so hard to please...  :D

Prototype for everything excuse coming up:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1176792 (http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1176792)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on July 16, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
OK Paddy - it's a fair cop :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on July 16, 2015, 06:43:15 PM
You lot are so hard to please...  :D

Prototype for everything excuse coming up:

[url]http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1176792[/url] ([url]http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1176792[/url])

Kind regards

Paddy

Good one !  :thumbsup:
If it shines in the "Dull Winter Light" it must be positively sparkling in the bright Summer sunshine.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 24, 2016, 01:07:26 PM
HOLLERTON JUNCTION - UPGRADING THE LIMA SIPHON G CHASSIS PART 1

Sorry for the long gap between posts but a new job has meant progress on HOLLERTON JUNCTION has stalled.

Over the years a number of articles have appeared from people like Noel Leaver about the relative merits of the LIMA and later Dapol Siphon coaches.  Recently I read that the chassis on the Dapol Siphon is a perfect fit for the old LIMA model so I had to give this a try.  After a few weeks I managed to purchase a brand new (literally never used) LIMA Siphon G in BR Crimson livery (320865) for a good price.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. LIMA Siphon G in BR Crimson, 320865.

The next step was to find an original Dapol Siphon coach to provide a donor chassis.  I wanted an original model as this has the pre-NEM couplers which give a large gap between vehicles.  Once again, I came across a competitively priced, mint condition Dapol Siphon in GWR brown at a local Model Railway Exhibition.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. Dapol Siphon H in GWR Brown, NB-004.

Now I had all the parts required to upgrade the chassis on my LIMA Siphon!  One thing that did surprise me was that the chassis and bogies on my LIMA model were quite good and I wonder if LIMA upgraded them on the final models?  Dismantling the LIMA Siphon did not seem obvious at first as I could not find any visible plastic tabs or screws to remove.  Eventually I discovered that the bogies are held in place via a divided peg pillar on top that inserts through a hole in the chassis - gentle pulling and wiggling will safely remove the bogies.

The LIMA chassis on the other hand is a very tight fit and can only be removed by pulling each end with quite a bit of force.  There are four clips (two down each side) about 1” in from the end plus two very small plastic tabs at each end.  You would not believe that these little bits of plastic could hold the body on with such vigour!  Once you have removed the chassis you will find a significant (2.5”) metal weight clipped in to the chassis.

Removing the chassis from the Dapol Siphon has its own challenges as well.  The bogies are a clip fit as per the LIMA model and I found the easiest way to pop them off was to insert my thumb and first finger nails under the pip and squeeze gently.  Once the bogies are removed you can get access to two metal screws that hold the body and chassis together.  Surprisingly there is no metal weight supplied with the Dapol model so I shall be looking to reuse the LIMA one.

Once everything was disassembled I sprayed the Lima roof section with Humbrol Grey Primer Number 1.

In part 2, I will show the upgraded LIMA Siphon and you can all judge for yourselves whether this process is worthwhile.

As always your comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 24, 2016, 01:28:04 PM
Good afternoon Paddy. Very nice to have you back posting. The conversion you're describing is one that I will be doing, too. I also have a LIMA Siphon G in BR Crimson livery (320865) and have already removed a Dapol Siphon from its chassis. The body is in Cant Cove station yard in use as a PWM department store. The LIMA Siphon G in BR Crimson livery seems to be quite rare so I'm looking for more Lima Siphon brown bodies (can be vans with damaged chassis, e.g. missing buffers, as I only want the body) to spraypaint BR Crimson for 'through' running.

I have also read about this conversion. If I remember correctly, it's also recommended to add replacement roof ventilators. (I think from Alan, Etched Pixels?)

I also have a conversion kit of parts to add to a Lima Siphon body to convert it (e.g., covering up some of the ventilators) to one used for parcels use by BR WR.

I look forward to the next part(s).

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 24, 2016, 03:52:52 PM
HOLLERTON JUNCTION - UPGRADING THE LIMA SIPHON G CHASSIS PART 2

Welcome to Part 2 of the LIMA Siphon G chassis upgrade.  The ballast weight supplied with the LIMA Siphon measures 71mm but the gap between the two screw holes on the Dapol chassis is only 67mm.  To reuse the ballast weight you either have to cut it down, remove the screw holes from the chassis or find an alternative solution to the problem!

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Dapol Siphon H chassis.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. LIMA metal weight.

Personally I did not fancy reducing the length of the weight and removing plastic from the donor chassis seemed like a bad idea also.  My solution was to cut two pieces of plasticard approximately 65mm long, each of which is just under 1mm thick.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Two 65mm lengths of plasticard.

The two pieces were then stuck together using Plastic Weld to form a plinth 65mm x 2mm.

[Limit reached]Photo 4. Plinth made from Plasticard - 65mm x 2mm.

The plinth fits neatly between the two screw holes and once glued in place forms a platform for the ballast weight to be glued to.

[Limit reached]Photo 5. Dapol chassis with plastic plinth glued in place.

You may find that there is a slight lip remaining on the screw holes but this can be removed through gentle filing before attaching the ballast weight with some suitable super glue.

[Limit reached]Photo 6. Dapol chassis with the LIMA ballast weight glued in place.

Naively I thought this project could be completed in two parts but there will now be at least a part 3 as I need to wait for everything to dry.

As always your comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on January 24, 2016, 04:59:07 PM
Many thanks, Paddy. I had not even thought about the weight. I'm glad that you're taking a far more systematic approach than I had thought of doing! 8-)

So, I look forward, in due course, to Parts 3 and 4!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 26, 2016, 06:05:41 PM
HOLLERTON JUNCTION - UPGRADING THE LIMA SIPHON G CHASSIS PART 3

Welcome to Part 3 of the LIMA Siphon G chassis upgrade.  The repainted LIMA Siphon roof was glued back in place with some Rocket Card Glue and is a big improvement on the plain plastic.  I also took the opportunity to sand flat the little mould pip in the middle of the roof prior to spraying.  The Dapol chassis was attached to the LIMA body using the same glue forming a strong bond.  Finally, I gave the coach gangways a quick paint with some matt black to tone down the plastic appearance of these items.

[Limit reached]Photo 1. Completed LIMA Siphon with a Dapol Chassis.

My only concern is about the size of the Dapol chassis wheels - thy look a little small in diameter but when I compared them to a Graham Farish coach they are the same size.  May be it is just me but the upgrade Siphon seems to sit a little low.  The remaining Dapol Siphon body and LIMA chassis were put together and you can see the result below - doesn’t look too bad.

[Limit reached]Photo 2. LIMA Siphon with a Dapol Chassis.

Finally, a photo of a bargain I picked up last weekend.  In one of those “junk” boxes you get on traders stalls I came across an unboxed, very dirty Graham Farish Royal Mail TPO for only £10.  From what I could see the only fault with the TPO was dirt so I snapped it up.  A thorough clean, dry and reassembly has resulted in what looks like a brand new model - it is even the original version with lights.

[Limit reached]Photo 3. Graham Farish Royal Mail TPO.

So in summary, I have enjoyed upgrading the LIMA Siphon and there is no doubt the new bogies make a big difference.  However, the viability of this project really depends on the ability to source reasonably priced donor vehicles.  In my case the cost of the models came to £20.50 but I am sure cheaper donors are available in more common liveries and/or poorer condition.  At the end of the day I have something different to run on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.


As always your comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: joe cassidy on January 26, 2016, 07:17:51 PM
Paddy,

I think you got your money's worth in terms of :

1) enjoying yourself

2) achieving something that you're proud of

That's what this hobby is all about.

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 26, 2016, 08:56:52 PM
Thanks Joe. I have to say that I was surprised myself at how well this project went.  A few years ago I would not have known where to start.  However, these days I am happy to have a go and I must be getting a bit better as my disasters are getting less.  ;)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 09, 2016, 04:06:59 PM
Hi Folks,

As wee project I thought about replacing the chassis on some old LIMA box vans.  Ah I thought, these will be cheap as they are old, not overly accurate and have been superseded by better models.

The prices for LIMA box vans (and other wagons) seem extortionate.  Am I missing something?  Are the LIMA wagons sought after by collectors and/or modellers?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Mito on February 09, 2016, 08:49:27 PM
I think in general all secondhand prices are high. With ever increasing prices for new, secondhand prices are bound to go up as well.
Coupled with exorbitant postal charges asked by sellers on that auction site it is usually cheaper for me living in Spain to buy new from box shifters. 
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 09, 2016, 09:47:27 PM
Hi Paddy. I think there are collectors of these old Lima vans and wagons even though some, at least, are overscale. I know the 8-plank wagon bodies are popular for remounting on Peco wagon chassis.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 10, 2016, 08:14:46 AM
Thanks both, the prices are amazing as you can end up paying more for an old LIMA wagon than a brand new super detailed one from Graham Farish or Dapol.  Ah well, it was a nice idea while it lasted - a bit of recycle and reuse.  :)

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 01, 2017, 12:36:25 AM
HOLLERTON JUNCTION - UPGRADING THE CHASSIS ON A LIMA BOX VANS

After some searching I managed to acquire a few Lima box vans to modify.  As previously mentioned, the hope is to replace the chassis with a more modern equivalent.  The box vans themselves come in some interesting (if not prototypical) liveries and will add a bit of variety to the fleet.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/356-010217002310.jpeg)
Photo 1. Lima Box Van in Castrol GTX livery.

The above photo shows the starting point – a good condition Lima box van in Castrol GTX livery.  The existing chassis is rather crude and the van sits too high with the pizza cutter wheels.  Initially my plan was to use the PECO 10-foot wagon chassis but I found this required quite a bit of surgery to the box van as the PECO chassis top is not flat.

Whilst this modification is achievable (I modified a Lima van this way) it is a lot of work and rather messy.  I then came across Dapol’s 7 plank wagon chassis (2A-000-016) which is the right length and has a completely flat top.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/356-010217002514.jpeg)
Photo 2. Dapol 7 Plank Wagon Chassis.

The first step is to gently separate the Lima body from the chassis.  You will find there are four plastic lugs holding the body and chassis together – gentle pressure should be sufficient.  Do not worry if one or more of the lugs breaks off as they need to be removed anyway.

Using a scalpel and file remove any rough bits from the van bottom to provide as flat a surface as possible.  I then glued the Lima body to the Dapol chassis using Deluxe Materials Rocket Rapid super glue which sets in about 30 seconds.

The Lima roof is a shiny dark grey plastic which looks very toy like.  To give the van a more realistic finish I I sprayed the roof with Humbrol Grey Primer.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/356-010217002432.jpeg)
Photo 3. Completed Lima Box Van with replacement Dapol chassis.

Using the above method, a Lima wagon can have its chassis upgraded easily.  The only issue I found was that the Lima body seems slightly too wide – either that or the PECO/Dapol chassis is too narrow!  I suspect the former given the somewhat dubious scaling of the Lima N Gauge range.  One thing I do find surprising is that Dapol supply their replacement chassis in their high quality jewel case with foam insert and cardboard sleeve.  Surely it would be cheaper to dispense with this and use a polly bag?

However, when the wagon is on the track and part of a train the width is not noticeable.  The new chassis looks good and means the wagon now matches the height of other newer wagons.  Given the cost of Lima wagons and the replacement chassis this is not a cheap project but it is fun and means I have something different to run on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

As always your comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 01, 2017, 07:08:57 AM
Very nice work, Paddy. There are also old Graham Farish vans in PO liveries which never existed in real life.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on February 01, 2017, 09:41:47 AM
Thanks very much for that, Paddy.
I just happen to have a Lima Castrol GTX wagon :hmmm: :D
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 01, 2017, 03:36:53 PM
Thanks Chaps.  I might darken the roof a touch to give it more of a contrast with the body colour.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 01, 2017, 04:16:48 PM
Yes, I agree, Paddy. I use generic aerosol matt paint sprays for roofs: light, medium, and dark grey. I'd try medium grey first then dark if the contrast is not great enough.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 17, 2017, 11:16:02 AM
Hi Folks,

I have been able to aquire a Dapol 2MT 2-6-2T locomotive in BR black.  It is a lovely wee model but I would like to paint the wheels as the "standard" jars on me.  Has anyone attempted this?  If so, what brand/colour of paint would you recommend?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on February 18, 2017, 06:57:11 AM
Hi Paddy, whilst the wheels should be a shade of black I cannot advise you further as I've never attempted to paint wheels to match the latest factory-finished models. I hope someone more knowledgeable can.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Milton Rail on February 20, 2017, 11:37:27 AM
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 5 - VEGETATION

Some of you may recall that there was a small gap at the base of the stone wall in my previous post.  Well this has played on my mind so I added scatter at the base of the wall to cover it (see photo 9).

[Limit reached]Photo 9. Vegetation at the base of the wall.

That is it for today.  I was hoping to post a picture of Hollerton Police station with its new painted side gate and matching doors.  However, the photo showed that a small amount of “touching up” is needed!  :doh:

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy

Working my way through this excellent & informative thread, half way through but still have 2 years to catch up on!
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on February 20, 2017, 05:16:33 PM
Working my way through this excellent & informative thread, half way through but still have 2 years to catch up on!

Thank you Milton Rail - that was the intention of the thread i.e. share my successes and also things to avoid.  I also mention the products I used (not because I have any link with them) as it helps to know what can work (from my experience).  Other options are always available but a starting point is useful IMHO.

Just need someone to reply about painting the wheels on my 2MT!  ;)

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Milton Rail on February 20, 2017, 06:55:53 PM
Thanks Paddy, caught up with the end of the thread, great stuff, got me motivated to cracking on my layout when I get home this weekend (offshore weather & Air France permitting)  :)

Cheers,
Andrew
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Eclipse247 on August 17, 2017, 04:59:48 PM
CHILDHOOD MEMORIES

Back in my childhood I came across a book called "The Model-Railway Men", written by an author called Ray Pope.  This small hardback book told the story of a boy called Mark who had a large model railway in his loft that was inhabited by a family of railway people who were in correct proportion to the OO models.

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The first book in ther series

Visits to my local lending library allowed me to discover (there was no internet in those days!) that there were a total of 10 books in the series.

Title                      Published
The Model-Railway Men            1970           
Telford and the American Visitor 1970           
The Model-Railway Men Take Over  1971           
Telford's Holiday                1972           
Telford and the Festiniog Railway 1973           
Telford Saves the Line            1974           
Telford goes Dutch                1976           
Telford Tells the Truth          1977           
The Model-Railway Men in America 1978           
Telford and the Prairie Battle    1979           

Each book was charmingly illustrated by Gareth Floyd and was initially published in hardback form.  In recent years I have discovered that some of the books were released in paperback later on.

According to the first book, Ray Pope lived in Bath but I have never been able to find out what happened to him.  Given the story lines in the later books I have often wondered if Ray emigrated to America.

Thanks to the power of Google and eBay I have been able to assemble a complete set of all 10 books in hardback form.  Luckily, I did this 10+ years ago as prices of these books has increased significantly.

Does anyone else remember these books or have insight about what happened to Ray Pope?

Many thanks

Paddy


Wow Paddy. It was quite a coincidence that we bumped into each other at the Calne show! Mark
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on August 18, 2017, 02:29:19 PM
Hi Mark,

Good to hear from you and I am pleased to see two more of your books have been released on Amazon.  Any idea when the unpublished work will appear?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Eclipse247 on August 20, 2017, 10:53:27 AM
Hi Mark,

Good to hear from you and I am pleased to see two more of your books have been released on Amazon.  Any idea when the unpublished work will appear?

Kind regards

Paddy
Hi Paddy, I am looking to see how these 2 go and exploring various publicity angles. I have also approached a well known film maker and they are concerned the "core audience may have moved on". I think the core audience is still there and still enjoying their modeling as a hobby that keeps their feet on the ground in a difficult world. I am trying to contact people like yourself for whom these books are important. From what I can learn, many people find there are issues raised that are relevent in adult life and we can see the same story from different perspectives with age. Alot of 2nd/h copies are ex library implying private owners are holding on. I have done some videos which don't appear to have grabbed the attention of the viewer so I am thinking of repackaging the series as kidult and doing a more snappy video along the lines of the format people are used to ie short soundbites packed with info and concepts. We all have an inner child and thats what modeling or football appeals too. I also have other commitments that delay this process >:(
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 18, 2018, 08:27:02 PM
Paddy,

Back scene looks great :thumbsup: and it would be great if you could report back in a few months or so as to whether the back scene is still stuck - this is the proof of the pudding so to speak.

Many of us have initial success only to find problems later on with peeling and bubbling  :worried: but we may not have used the products that you have

Hi Pengi,

As requested, it has been 4.5 years now and the backscenes remain firmly attached.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 19, 2018, 10:07:43 AM
Very good to read a post from you, Paddy. How are things at Hollerton Junction?
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 20, 2018, 10:32:25 AM
Hi Chris,

Progress on HOLLERTON JUNCTION has been slow due to work and family commitments.  Not gone away though and still have lots of ideas but no time.  Working on another LIMA Siphon upgrade at present.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 20, 2018, 10:37:10 AM
Thanks for the update, Paddy. I have quite a few Lima Siphon Gs awaiting upgrades along with Dapol Siphon chassis. It would be good to see and read about yours.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 12, 2018, 12:22:08 PM
Hi Folks,

Been a while but I have been thinking about a wee project that involves spraying a coach with Humbrol gloss acrylic aerosol (they do not have blue matt).  I have not used gloss before and I was wondering if there is anything different to be aware of when using gloss?  Does it apply the same as matt for example?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on December 12, 2018, 03:17:13 PM
Hi Folks,

Been a while but I have been thinking about a wee project that involves spraying a coach with Humbrol gloss acrylic aerosol (they do not have blue matt).  I have not used gloss before and I was wondering if there is anything different to be aware of when using gloss?  Does it apply the same as matt for example?

Many thanks

Paddy


Hi Paddy

I'd always prime/undercoat first with a colour as close to your gloss shade as possible. Apply a couple of thin coats of gloss once the undercoat's fully dried out. Watch out for incompatibilities - might be best to use an acrylic undercoat layer too.

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 12, 2018, 03:50:58 PM
I'd always prime/undercoat first with a colour as close to your gloss shade as possible. Apply a couple of thin coats of gloss once the undercoat's fully dried out. Watch out for incompatibilities - might be best to use an acrylic undercoat layer too.

Mike

Thanks Mike.  Just to be clear, if the top coat is blue gloss are you suggesting the primer should be blue?  Is there such a thing?  :worried:  I have Humbrol Primer which is a light grey colour.

EDIT: Just checked and Halfords make their primers in white, grey and red.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on December 13, 2018, 04:04:27 PM
I'd always prime/undercoat first with a colour as close to your gloss shade as possible. Apply a couple of thin coats of gloss once the undercoat's fully dried out. Watch out for incompatibilities - might be best to use an acrylic undercoat layer too.

Mike

Thanks Mike.  Just to be clear, if the top coat is blue gloss are you suggesting the primer should be blue?  Is there such a thing?  :worried:  I have Humbrol Primer which is a light grey colour.

EDIT: Just checked and Halfords make their primers in white, grey and red.

Many thanks

Paddy


I'd use the closest primer (ie grey rather than white or red lead), then try to find the closest matt shade as an undercoat for the final gloss coat. Depending on the shade/brand of gloss, two gloss coats over grey primer might be ok - best try on a test piece before the model.

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 23, 2019, 11:03:00 AM
HOLLERTON JUNCTION REFURBISHMENT - PART 1

After 3+ years of doing a 125 mile daily commute, Mrs Coleman has allowed me to give early retirement a go for the rest of 2019.  If I do not get bored (again) then who knows it may be permanent!

The following photos show the state of HOLLERTON JUNCTION after nearly 4 years of neglect - there was simply no time for modelling.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-230519103705.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-230519103724.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-230519103740.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-230519103757.jpeg)

The first step was to draw up a plan of action to refurbish the layout:
Fortunately, on closer inspection once the loose items had been removed the main issue was dust and debris.  There were a few places on the backscene where the images needed gluing down again (but only minor and at the edges). 

The dust and debris was removed using a soft paintbrush and the USB mini vacuum cleaner I purchased a few years ago (see https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.270 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.270)).  I have to say, the little cleaner was very good at getting in the small areas without damaging the buildings and scenery.  For larger areas I turned to my trusted dust buster.

The next task is to build the track mop and clean the track - details to follow.

As always your comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 23, 2019, 11:07:46 AM
I hope the early retirement suits you, Paddy, as it was the best thing I ever did :D
As for suggestions, I'd have a glass of your favourite tipple to hand such that if all goes well with the layout you can celebrate and if you find some faults you can drown your sorrows ;)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 23, 2019, 11:08:31 AM
we look forward to the fruits of  your labour
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Chris in Prague on May 23, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
It's great to see you and Hollerton Junction back, Paddy. Yes, those mini vacuum cleaners are great as well as the handheld rechargeable ones when everything is firmly fixed in place or after major scenic work.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on May 23, 2019, 11:27:57 AM
The one thing I have found with retirement is the freedom it gives you, (even allowing for the ideas of how to spend the time from  SWMBO  ;)). I can agree with the use of the mini USB cleaner where the larger rechargeable could cause damage. Enjoy the retirement Paddy and lets hope it becomes permanent.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Train Waiting on May 23, 2019, 01:07:55 PM
Hollerton Junction looks better after four years of 'neglect' than my poor layout does after getting on for a year of fairly active modelling.  It's a lovely layout; just my sort of thing.

It's true what they say; retirement simply makes you even busier!  I decided a while ago that there would be no paid work after 60, so I gave it up at 59.  There have been attempts to get me back, including one today, which is when 'No thank you' is such a useful phrase.

Best wishes for lots of fun and I hope to see many more pictures of the layout.

By the way, is there a cat in the house?

Thank you for these super pictures and all best wishes.

John   
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on May 23, 2019, 01:32:26 PM
It’s good to see Hollerton Junction back and as others have said, taking early retirement is one of the best things that you’ll ever do.
Now....I have to ask. What’s that pink thingy with the tree on top?

Enjoy your layout and enjoy running trains.
All the best.

Martin
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 23, 2019, 02:59:35 PM

Now....I have to ask. What’s that pink thingy with the tree on top?


@port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230)
Mont Blanc(mange)? :laugh:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 23, 2019, 04:30:31 PM
Hollerton Junction looks better after four years of 'neglect' than my poor layout does after getting on for a year of fairly active modelling.  It's a lovely layout; just my sort of thing.

It's true what they say; retirement simply makes you even busier!  I decided a while ago that there would be no paid work after 60, so I gave it up at 59.  There have been attempts to get me back, including one today, which is when 'No thank you' is such a useful phrase.

Best wishes for lots of fun and I hope to see many more pictures of the layout.

By the way, is there a cat in the house?

Thank you for these super pictures and all best wishes.

John

Thanks John and everyone else for your kind words.  I feel very fortunate to be able to consider retiring at 51.  Whether it proves to be permanent, time will tell (we serve at Mrs Coleman’s pleasure).  ;)

There is indeed a very special cat called Henry.  The poor boy was hit by a car 3 years ago, losing an eye.  Henry spent weeks in hospital and it was touch and go on many occasions.  Henry still struggles to feed and has syringes of Veterinary Recovery food each day.  We love Henry dearly and he is a very spoilt British Blue/tabby cross.

You should have seen Henry’s medical bill!  :o

Kind regards

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 23, 2019, 04:34:24 PM
It’s good to see Hollerton Junction back and as others have said, taking early retirement is one of the best things that you’ll ever do.
Now....I have to ask. What’s that pink thingy with the tree on top?

Enjoy your layout and enjoy running trains.
All the best.

Martin

Thanks Martin.  The pink thing is a cat treat box with one of those cheap Chinese trees that you get on eBay stuck in to it.  The tree was sprayed with hair spray about 4 years ago and additional scatter added.  It was simply placed in to the treat box to dry.  It should be well and truly dry by now.  :)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Train Waiting on May 23, 2019, 06:50:24 PM

Thanks Martin.  The pink thing is a cat treat box...

Yes indeedy; Poppy spotted it in the picture and asked if there was a Hollerton Junction cat.  She sends her kindest regards to Henry.

She also wonders if Henry might consent to his photograph appearing on our Forum.

Early retirement (indeed any retirement) is, in my view, all about two Ts: tax planning... and trains!

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 24, 2019, 07:22:32 PM
HOLLERTON JUNCTION REFURBISHMENT - PART 2

Well, the most important things first.  I had a wee chat with Henry, and he sends his fondest regards to Poppy.  Henry also hopes that Poppy likes the following photo (which was taken recently).  As you can see, he has made an amazing recovery from what was a horrendous accident.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-240519190753.jpeg)
Photo 1. Henry.

Back to the restoration of HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  Over the last couple of days, I assembled the Track Mop from Mill Lane Sidings.  I purchased the mop a few years back and it is still available from their website for a very reasonable £6.00 plus £2 P&P.

http://www.mill-lane-sidings.co.uk/mlstrackmop.html (http://www.mill-lane-sidings.co.uk/mlstrackmop.html)

The Track Mop is supplied in a stout cardboard box and is made from laser cut 3mm MDF and comes with all the parts, large cleaning cloth (which needs to be cut to size) and small bulldog clip to hold it on.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-240519190249.jpeg)
Photo 2. Mill Lane Sidings Track Mop Components.

As per the instructions, I gave each part a generous covering of PVA glue prior to assembly.  The parts went together easily with just a couple needing a wee bit of filing to get a snug fit.  Once assembled you have a robust track mop that is perfect for cleaning N gauge track.  In addition, I gave the base of the cleaner a few extra coats of PVA to protect it from wear.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-240519190312.jpeg)
Photo 3. Completed Track Mop.

Now that the Track Mop is complete and dry the next task is to use it to clean the track - results to follow!

As always, your comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Train Waiting on May 24, 2019, 07:42:36 PM
Thank you very much, Paddy.

Poppy sends  :heart2:.

Poppy is a bit of a flirt, I'm afraid, and our garden is like Piccadilly Circus with 'gentlemen callers'.

It's wonderful that Henry has made a good recovery.  He's certainly a handsome chap.

I am a recent convert, thanks to @Webbo (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4229) , to WD-40 (don't panic!) contact cleaner to clean the track.  You might like to try skooshing some on to your spiffing track mop.

Many thanks and all best wishes to you and Henry.

John and Poppy.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 24, 2019, 08:18:26 PM
Thanks John and Poppy!

Henry is a terrible playboy with the ladies too so no doubt they would get on like a house on fire.  Poor chap does not realise he is lacking certain items...  :D

I have bought some isopropyl alcohol to try this time.  Before, I tried the Deluxe Materials product but did not get on with it.  Next time I am in Wickes etc. I will get a can of WD-40.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 24, 2019, 09:33:32 PM
Next time I am in Wickes etc. I will get a can of WD-40.


Make sure it's the contact cleaner type and not the common or garden variety, @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 25, 2019, 08:16:30 AM
Will do @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) - I hate to imagine what the original WD-40 would do to HOLLERTON JUNCTION!  :doh:

Looking on the WD web site the product contains approximately 20-30% isopropyl alcohol.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on May 30, 2019, 03:44:18 PM
HOLLERTON JUNCTION REFURBISHMENT - PART 3

Finally had some time to use the Track Mop (see previous post) to clean the track on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  This time I used isopropyl alcohol and the results were excellent (although rather smelly).  My only observation is that the J cloth supplied with the mop is not really tough enough as it tends to rip and fluff up.  The instructions suggest old cotton from a shirt which I suspect would be much better.  So in summary, I highly recommend the Track Mop from Mill Lane Sidings.

The following are three photos of refurbished HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-300519152508.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-300519152526.jpeg)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-300519152549.jpeg)

A new addition to the layout is the replacement of the original Hornby Lyddle End Engines Sheds with a new Graham Farish Scenecraft Two Lane Engine Shed (42-0033).  As the layout incorporates both steam and diesel I felt this building was more appropriate for the transition era.  However, as you can see from photo 1 below the Graham Farish Engine Shed is a very pale red - like it is covered in talcum powder.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-300519152443.jpeg)
Photo 1. Colour Comparison of Hornby and Graham Farish Engine Sheds.

To my eye the Graham Farish Engine Shed looks unrealistic and clashes with the darker red of the majority of buildings on the layout.  Out came the artist acrylics and a few washes of a darker shade produced the result in photo 2.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/77/356-300519152831.jpeg)
Photo 2. Colour Comparison of Hornby and repainted Graham Farish Engine Sheds.

As always, your comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on May 30, 2019, 04:10:08 PM
The acrylic washes certainly improve things, Paddy :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: crewearpley40 on May 30, 2019, 04:16:42 PM
Too unrealistic for me, plasticky. Could you not scratchbuild or find a paper to add over or weather
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on May 30, 2019, 05:30:58 PM
The GF engine shed definitely looks better after the wash.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on May 30, 2019, 06:32:35 PM
Personally, I'd have toned down the Hornby one with a light grey wash. It all depends on the look you want though - nothing looks new on my layout as it's an industrial location.

Either way, you've now two sheds that look as though they're of similar age and built by the same outfit.

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 01:25:35 PM
Hi @Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263)

I dismastled a PECO TTA tank wagon and popped it in a bottle of Isopropyl Alcohol as you suggested.

Never done this before so could you please give me some idea of how long I need to leave the tank submerged to remove the paint.

Many thanks

Paddy

Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Dr Al on November 11, 2019, 01:38:43 PM
IPA is relatively gentle, so will not aggressively lift the paint spontaneously in seconds (unlike some - e.g. Acetone....and no DON'T use Acetone on plastics - it will damage them, but it is very good at clearing enamel finishes off whitemetal kits etc).

On Farish finishes, a dip for 5 mins in IPA followed by gentle rubbing with cotton bud etc will start to lift the printing and base colour in my experience. Peco will likely use different materials, so you'll just have to try and see. If it doesn't lift, then you may have to move to a more potent substance, like a model paint stripper.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 01:45:06 PM
Thanks @Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263) - it has been half an hour so I will go and check...

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 01:55:44 PM
Hi @Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263) - wow, it works!  Popped it back in for another soak but about 50-60% of the paint has come off.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Dr Al on November 11, 2019, 01:58:43 PM
Its why using IPA as a track cleaner is extremely risky if you end up handling any stock!

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 02:04:58 PM
Ah yes, I see what you mean.  :doh:

Just ordered a new Woodland Scenics track rubber the other day as it was awarded “Best Buy” in Hornby Magazine.  Hopefully that will be less risky.

The stuff you learn on this forum - it is great.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on November 11, 2019, 02:56:45 PM
@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)
Some track rubbers can leave a white powdery residue which needs to be wiped/vacuumed off.
(Make a word from COPE ;))
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 03:17:53 PM
@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)
Some track rubbers can leave a white powdery residue which needs to be wiped/vacuumed off.
(Make a word from COPE ;))

Hi @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) - apparently this one does not according to the review where they compared all that were available.  It better be good as it is not cheap!

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on November 11, 2019, 03:21:19 PM

(Make a word from COPE ;))

I know, I know - OPEC - oh, that's an acronym - sorry.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 04:09:01 PM
CHIPMAN’S WEEDKILLING TRAIN - PART #1

Cost to date = £11.45

It is time to start a new project and this is likely to be my most ambitious to date!  There will be a lot of modeller’s license, but I hope to end up with something that looks like a reasonable representation of the prototype train (but shorter).

Since being a kid, I always wanted a weedkilling train, but none were available.  I did get rather excited when Graham Farish announced their train.  Sadly, this was a modern train and not something from the 1960s that I could run on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  My initial thoughts were along the lines of two or three tenders linked together as was common in the 1940s and 1950s.  Whilst searching the web, I came across the following page on the RCTS website:

http://www.rcts-shop.org.uk/features/carriage-conundrums/fisons-and-other-weedkilling-trains-carriages (http://www.rcts-shop.org.uk/features/carriage-conundrums/fisons-and-other-weedkilling-trains-carriages)

There is a lot of fantastic information and photos which got me thinking again and I decided to have a go at creating a version of the Chipmans Weedkilling Train (sic).  The real train seems to consist of:

1. LNER Bauxite Brake Van
2. Bauxite Box Van
3. Two Maunsell Coaches
4. Four Tank Wagons
5. LNER Bauxite Brake Van

Items 1, 2 and 5 are easy as they can be obtained off the shelf from Graham Farish, PECO, Minitrix etc.  These days even the Maunsell coaches are available thanks to Dapol (although not in the correct livery).  I will return to the Maunsell coaches later in the project but for now I will focus on the tank wagons.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-111119160120.jpeg)
Photo 1. Chipman’s Weedkilling train (© Michael Wild).

The photograph above shows a close-up of the tank wagons.  I am no expert, but they look like Class A or B tanks as per Revoloution trains (or similar).  Obviously, the Revolution tank wagons are far too expensive (IMHO) to mess up so I looked around for a suitable alternative and came across the PECO tanker numbers NR-P77.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-111119160329.jpeg)
Photo 2. PECO TTA wagon NR-P77.

The PECO wagon is not a direct substitute as it is a TTA wagon but as these were/are used in weedkilling trains a little modeller’s license was used.  The NR-P77 tanker has the ladder in the middle as per the prototype and from what I can see is the only available PECO tanker with this layout.  All the other PECO tankers have the ladders to one end or none.  Even the PECO kit does not seem to offer the ladder in the middle option (unless I have missed something).

On HOLLERTON JUNCTION the number of tank wagons will be reduced to two and these were duly ordered from Rails of Sheffield for £11.45 each.  The PECO tank wagons arrived in their new plastic box (which I really like) and came apart easily.  All the parts are simply held together with friction fit - no glue!  You end up with the following:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-111119160451.jpeg)
Photo 3. NR-P77 parts with stripped tank.

As you can probably tell, the next job was to strip (the lovely) factory finish off the tank and I have @Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263) to thank for making this easy.  Two hours in a bottle of IPA, some rubbing with earbuds, toothbrush and toothpick I had a clean tank body (see above).  The chassis and ladders have been put safely to one side (in the PECO supplied box!) and will be used “as is”.

The job is to spray the tank a suitable red and create some artwork to go on the sides.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on November 11, 2019, 06:06:36 PM
There are a few posts regarding the Chipman's Weedkilling Train, here's one -

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46874.msg595952#msg595952 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46874.msg595952#msg595952)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on November 11, 2019, 06:48:57 PM
Just as redundant TTAs replaced the Class A TSOs, those replaced earlier unfitted tank wagons including anchor-mounts. Here are some pictures (https://hmrs.org.uk/photographs.html?private_owner=2013&subject=6567) - the only one dated is from 1969.

This very useful book has some more pictures, including this one which shows the colour as being claret rather than the 'red oxide' noted on the example above. It's dated 1973.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/2947-111119184609.jpeg)

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 07:49:17 PM
There are a few posts regarding the Chipman's Weedkilling Train, here's one -

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46874.msg595952#msg595952 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46874.msg595952#msg595952)

Thanks @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) - that was a previous thread of mine when I was doing research.  ;)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 07:51:46 PM
Thanks @maridunian (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2947) - I will be using crimson which I hope will give a reasonable rendition of the original.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on November 11, 2019, 08:43:14 PM
Oops, sorry. I did not read the thread fully.  :-[
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 11, 2019, 08:52:43 PM
No worries @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) - this is one of the reasons I try to keep most of my posts relating to HOLLERTON JUNCTION in this thread.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 12, 2019, 11:55:54 AM
Hi Folks,

Can anyone please advise me on how to get into a Dapol Maunsell coach?  I have removed the bogies and the additional two screws but the chassis and body will still not part ways.  This is one of the Light Bar ready versions - not sure if that makes any difference?  I could only find the following on the web:

"You just need to remove the *whole* body. Unclip the ends and then run a thumbnail between the bottom of the body and the running board and the long clips in the centre of the coach will part. It should come off fairly easily. I've fitted 16 light bars and not had any issues removing or refitting the bodies."

This does not seem to work unless I need to be more forceful - I do not want to brake the coach.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: exmouthcraig on November 12, 2019, 12:21:05 PM
Exactly that way @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) I've just stripped a 4set of mine to weather and you can leave the bogies on.

Undo and remove the tiny screws behind each bogie

Holding the coach, I use mobile phone pry bars, lever between chassis solebar and coach side, again these chassis clip into glazing panels so work from the middle of the coach above truss work and go to each end.

This is best done over an empty ice cream tub to collect anything that pings off!!

Be AWARE these light bar ready ones have the socket in the seating panel and the wiring soldered onto pads on the chassis underneath. Not much movement in the chassis or seating but bodys come clear.

Replacement just requires a little persuasion once everything is square.

2 screws to tighten up and shes good to roll again
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 12, 2019, 12:36:26 PM
Thanks @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099) - that worked perfectly and I see what you mean about the soldered wires.  It was a bit nerve racking removing the glazing but actually it came out OK using a phone pry tool.

You are a star!

:NGF:

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 12, 2019, 03:06:01 PM
CHIPMAN’S WEEDKILLING TRAIN - PART #2

Cost to date = £45.85

Today's update consists of:

1. Disassembled and stripped the factory finish from the second PECO TTA.  This wagon came from Rails of Sheffield and cost £11.45.

2. Disassembled (thanks @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099)) a Dapol Maunsell BR Brake 3rd Class coach.  This coach came from Rails of Sheffield and cost £22.95.

3. Tested Humbrol Acrylic Spray Crimson #20 which is a good match to the Dapol coach.

4. Worked on artwork for the Chipman tanks (see images below).  Decided on a font called Bitstream Vera Sans in bold which is a good match for the prototype.  I also came across a very useful site that gives you the RGB values etc. for Humbrol paint (https://encycolorpedia.com/).  When the images below are printed on glossy photo paper the match is almost exact - very useful.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-121119145650.jpeg)
Photo 1. Company name for side 1 of the TTA tank wagon.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-121119145707.jpeg)
Photo 2. Service name for side 2 of the TTA tank wagon.

You can now see why I went for two tank wagons as when they are next to each other you get "CHIPMAN CHEMICAL COMPANY LTD" "INDUSTRIAL WEEDKILLING SERVICE".

 ;)

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Dream It | Believe It | Achieve It
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on November 12, 2019, 04:25:12 PM
Thanks Paddy, especially for the Humbrol->RGB link!

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 13, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
My pleasure Mike.  One of the main reasons for creating the HOLLERTON JUNCTION thread is to share useful information with other modellers.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 13, 2019, 02:27:25 PM
Hi Folks,

Another question which I hope someone can help me with.  Does anyone know what the glazing in Poole original coaches is made from?  For example, the clear sheeting that is used in the old Pullmans?

I have some that could do with replacing (discoloured) and was hoping it is possible to buy an A4 sheet of the stuff and cut out replacements.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 14, 2019, 09:24:25 PM
Hi @Ben A (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=94) - just reading Railway Modeller (well it has got Sir Rod Stewart on the front) and see you folks are releasing the Class A tank wagon.  Are you planning on doing any in the Chipman Chemical Company livery?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on November 14, 2019, 09:42:28 PM
Hi Folks,

Another question which I hope someone can help me with.  Does anyone know what the glazing in Poole original coaches is made from?  For example, the clear sheeting that is used in the old Pullmans?

I have some that could do with replacing (discoloured) and was hoping it is possible to buy an A4 sheet of the stuff and cut out replacements.

Many thanks

Paddy

I don't know what the original is made from but would suggest a sheet of acetate such as the type used in photocopying would be stiff enough to do the job and probably easily locally sourced
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on November 14, 2019, 09:48:50 PM
a sheet of acetate such as the type used in photocopying would be stiff enough to do the job

Not quite what was asked I know, but that is the stuff I use for windows in scratch built buildings and I would think it would do the job.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 15, 2019, 07:54:32 AM
Hi @dannyboy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4209) and @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

Thanks both, I have ordered a few sheets off Amazon and hopefully this will do the job.  It was less than £3 which I thought was a bargain.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on November 15, 2019, 10:20:58 AM
Let us know how you get on please, Paddy.
If it works OK it may help others to glaze stock and/or buildings.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 15, 2019, 10:30:39 AM
Will do @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264).

Just trying out matt varnish sprays:

1. Ghiant - could not really see any difference, ink did not run though.

2. Humbrol - messy and the ink ran - is this normal or have I got a "bad pint"?

3. Testors - perfect result.

Anyone else have other suggestions/recommendations?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 15, 2019, 11:19:09 AM
Hi @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

This is what I ordered from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07T4YT1ZR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07T4YT1ZR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

It came this morning and it is exactly as described.  It is 180 microns thick which looks fine to me although the proof will be when I try to use it in a coach.  The plastic does have a blueish tint but given the size of N gauge windows I do not see this as an issue.  I might get a bottle of Humbrol Gloss Clear to dip the cut pieces in as I was impressed with the results Humbrol got in the following video on an plane canopy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByMhacC5vAE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByMhacC5vAE)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on November 15, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)

Make sure the "blueish tint" is not just a protective film over the acetate - I once got caught out.  ;)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 15, 2019, 11:30:42 AM
@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)

Make sure the "blueish tint" is not just a protective film over the acetate - I once got caught out.  ;)

Thanks David (@dannyboy) - just checked and I cannot see that there is a protective film.

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 16, 2019, 01:34:21 PM
CHIPMAN’S WEEDKILLING TRAIN - PART #3

Cost to date = £45.85

N.B. Please excuse the quality of the photos as my camera was struggling with poor light.

The photo below shows the PECO tank wagons after their factory finish has been removed with IPA.  This worked really well and I would highly recommend this form of paint removal.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-161119131952.jpeg)
Photo 1. Stripped PECO tank bodies.

Next step was to prime the bodies before applying the top coat of Humbrol Acrylic Spray Gloss Crimson #20.  For the first time, I used Halfords Grey Primer (in the past I have used Humbrol Grey Primer) and the results were excellent.  I cannot recommend this primer highly enough - it is as good if not better than the Humbrol product, comes in a larger can and is therefore better value!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-161119132012.jpeg)
Photo 2. Primed PECO tank bodies.

Once the primer had dried, I applied two thin coats of Humbrol Acrylic Crimson.  It must have been an old can as sadly a few splutters of paint came out but luckily these are hard to spot on the completed models.

Next the signage was added to each side of the tanks, "CHIPMAN CHEMCIAL COMPANY LTD" to one side and "INDUSTRIAL WEEDKILLING SERVICE" to the other.  As can be seen in the photo below this then provides the full wordage when the tanks are joined together.

To seal the tank bodies and remove the gloss finished, two coats of Testors Dullcote were applied.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-161119132029.jpeg)
Photo 3. Completed PECO tank bodies.

Although not perfect (and the above photo is rather cruel), from normal viewing distances the effect is good enough for me.  Also, the colour/finish of the tank bodies is almost a perfect match for the crimson on the Dapol Maunsell coach!

Next job is to mask up and paint the top of the Maunsell coach white as per prototype.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: exmouthcraig on November 16, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Looking good @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) you'll have fun weathering them to the dusty grimy state they must of been in after a few trips on the metals!!  :beers:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on November 16, 2019, 02:20:15 PM
The colour looks great, and the finish is fine. Are the signs decals?

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 16, 2019, 02:29:23 PM
Hi @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099)

I do not intend to weather them as they are pristine in the prototype photos (see my earlier posting).  Having said that, I am sure you are right and in the real world they ended up very grimy.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 16, 2019, 02:34:02 PM
The colour looks great, and the finish is fine. Are the signs decals?

Mike

Thanks Mike ( @maridunian (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2947) ).  No, they are not decals as I did not have any decal paper and no one was able to create them for me when contacted.  It is just printed on glossy photo paper and stuck on.  With hindsight I would not have coloured the edges of the paper but you live and learn.

From a couple of feet away and on the layout the paper/wagon colour merge in to one.  At the end of the day I am going for an overall look and one has to accept certain limitations.

One day I would not have dreamt of attempting such a project so I must be making some progress.

 :D

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: exmouthcraig on November 16, 2019, 02:37:20 PM
Sorry paddy  :dunce:

They look very fresh in that photo, even the cream band on the coaches!!!

The RGB site has helped create a very very close matching background on the decals  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Newportnobby on November 16, 2019, 02:54:33 PM
A nice job of something no one else has probably has, Paddy :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 16, 2019, 05:54:08 PM
Thanks @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) - not over yet.  ;)

I bet @Ben A (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=94) at Revolution will now announce the Class A tanks in this livery!

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: dannyboy on November 16, 2019, 06:31:08 PM
@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)  They look pretty good especially as you have 'created' them yourself.  :thumbsup: I too am a firm believer in using Halfords  primer and I quite often use their paint spray cans as well.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on November 16, 2019, 06:51:10 PM
Sorry Paddy - I know it's a bit late now, but I was checking  Robbie Burns' tank decals  (http://www.robbiesrollingstock.co.uk/Tank_Wagons.htm) earlier for options for my own anchor mount tanks, and he offers the Industrial Weed Killing livery...

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 16, 2019, 07:01:37 PM
Hi Mike ( @maridunian (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2947) )

Argh!!  I forgot about Robbie’s transfers.  As a matter of interest how do these work?  Does Robbie match the colour of the wagon for example and print on white decal paper (so you get white text)?

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on November 16, 2019, 08:43:13 PM
The coal wagon examples I've used were clear and so you had to paint a white base layer. He recommends particular Humbrol colours to match the decal.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/82/2947-101019091926.jpeg)


Don't know why he wasn't using a white decal base - putting a dense enough layer of white paint on the model, then the decal, then varnish can potentially lose you some surface detail.

He's open to conversation and some on here have commissioned specials from him.

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 17, 2019, 03:47:32 PM
Hi Mike (@maridunian )

Love the wagons and the loco - great modelling.  Maybe one day I will be able to achieve such results...

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on November 17, 2019, 04:09:38 PM
Hi Mike (@maridunian )

Love the wagons and the loco - great modelling.  Maybe one day I will be able to achieve such results...

Kind regards

Paddy

Thank you, but of course you will. This loco's better than my previous one, which was better than the one before, which was ... There's no perfection to be had in this hobby, only progress!

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 17, 2019, 04:21:20 PM
CHIPMAN’S WEEDKILLING TRAIN - PART #4

Cost to date = £45.85

This is the last installment on my Chipman's Weedkilling Train build.  The last piece of rolling stock requiring modification is a Dapol Maunsell brake coach 3rd Class (2P-012-654) which corresponds to one of the coaches in the real train.  The coach was purchased new from Rails of Sheffield in crimson and cream livery with the hope that the bottom half would match the colour of the tank wagons.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/356-171119155425.jpeg)
Photo 1. Dapol Maunsell coach out of the box (© Hattons).

Fortunately, the crimson colour that Dapol uses is an exact match to Humbrol Acrylic Crimson #20 (well to my eyes!).  Once the coach was dismantled and the glazing removed it was masked up with a combination of Tamiya/Frog masking tape and Humbrol Maskol.

This is the first time I have used Maskol and Tamiya tape and I was disappointed with the former and impressed by the latter.  I expected the Maskol to dry to a rubbery cover that would easily pull off afterwards - this was not the case and indeed it ended up destroying the water pipes (wire) on the coach ends.  It may just be me, but I will be much more wary if/when I use Maskol next time.

As for Tamiya masking tape - great product. The tape is easy to apply, adheres well and can be worked around small bumps such as door knobs.  I decided to place a small piece of tape over the large wire handrails that extend in to the top of the coach and then hand paint and "gaps" later.

To paint the top half of the coach white (see previous prototype photo) I used a can of Humbrol Acrylic Matt White #34.  In the past I got good results with this paint but alas I had similar "splatter" issues as with the Humbrol Crimson.  I suspect both cans are suffering from age so they have been retired.  Still, two or three fine coats of matt white did the trick and the coach was left to dry well.

Finally it was time to remove the masking tape (nerve racking) and see what disaster lay beneath.  I am pleased to report that in the main the paint had covered the top half well with minimal overspray/leakage.  As mentioned above, I lost the wire pipes from the end of the coach but in reality these are hard to spot.  Touching up with white paint was minimal and consisted of the small areas around the large handrails and some tidying along the roof line.

Reassembly of the coach was very easy and the final results can be seen below.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/83/356-171119154352.jpeg)
Photo 2. View of the completed weedkilling train (note the brake vans are by Minitrix and the box van by PECO).

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/356-171119154413.jpeg)
Photo 3. View showing NE brake van followed by two Chipman weedkilling tanks.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/356-171119154439.jpeg)
Photo 4. View of the Maunsell brake/spray coach.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/84/356-171119154459.jpeg)
Photo 5. View showing bauxite box and NE brake vans.

This has been an enjoyable project from which I have been able to experience new products and learn skills for the future.  The end results are impressionistic and not 100% accurate but from normal viewing distances the illusion is acceptable (to me).

Soon it will be time to start the next project...  :-\

Finally, thank you for all the feedback and encouragement - it is very much appreciated.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: exmouthcraig on November 17, 2019, 05:13:19 PM
I think considering the profile of a Maunsell brake end coach the results achieved with masking tape have been particularly impressive  :claphappy:

Maskol is a product I have had varied success with and should be the answer to virtually all questions but I've found it easier to strip everything apart rather then use it.

Any hints or reveals as to the next project Paddy???
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: RailGooner on November 17, 2019, 05:36:15 PM
 :wonderfulmodelling:

As well as a lovely looking model Paddy, you've made yourself a pretty unique model too. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on November 17, 2019, 06:02:07 PM
This really works as a train. My minimum viewing distance for finished projects is 12", so 148' in real life. We don't often get much closer than that to real railways!

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 17, 2019, 06:17:38 PM
I think considering the profile of a Maunsell brake end coach the results achieved with masking tape have been particularly impressive  :claphappy:

Maskol is a product I have had varied success with and should be the answer to virtually all questions but I've found it easier to strip everything apart rather then use it.

Any hints or reveals as to the next project Paddy???

Thanks @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099) - that means a lot to me.

I was surprised by the Maskol and it was a brand new bottle to boot.  I decided not to use my original bottle that I bought in Beatties (remember them?).  I even watched the Humbrol Maskol video on YouTube beforehand.

As for the next project... there are four on the rolling stock list to choose from.

 ;)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 17, 2019, 06:19:00 PM
:wonderfulmodelling:

As well as a lovely looking model Paddy, you've made yourself a pretty unique model too. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thank you @RailGooner (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5427) - appreciate it.  Are you a fellow Arsenal fan per chance?

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 17, 2019, 06:22:42 PM
This really works as a train. My minimum viewing distance for finished projects is 12", so 148' in real life. We don't often get much closer than that to real railways!

Mike

Thanks Mike ( @maridunian (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2947) ).  I know what you mean - I look at close up photos and think “Ooh, missed a bit there!” but the same model on the layout looks fine.  It is like the wording on tank wagons - from a couple of feet away I cannot even seen the join.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Ben A on November 17, 2019, 06:56:33 PM

Hello Paddy,

The liveries for the Class A aren't decided yet; the CAD isn't even finalised as this is a model we anticipate will be offered toward the middle of next year.

Cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 17, 2019, 07:40:39 PM
Hi Ben,

Thank you for the insight.  My comment was tongue in cheek although I suppose this is a possible livery option.

 ;)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: chrispearce on November 17, 2019, 07:52:33 PM
An excellent weedkilling train there! You have excelled. An interesting project. :thumbsup:

Now to repeat the process several times and advertise on the web and open your own model shop!

Out of interest, what are the other 4 potential projects?


Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on November 17, 2019, 08:28:52 PM
Thanks Chris ( @chrispearce (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4141) ) - not sure about a model shop.  Sadly these days it seems a quick way to lose a fortune.  I really admire the people who run model shops though.

As for the projects...

1. Camera wagon.
2. N Gauge Society Loriet wagon kit.
3. Ford freight train.
4. CIWL Night Ferry train.

Not necessarily in the above order.  ;)

The above does even include all the layout things I really need to do!

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 13, 2019, 04:37:59 PM
CIWL NIGHT FERRY TRAIN - PART #1

The inspiration for this project came from an article on the East Bank Model Railway Club’s website (www.eastbank.org.uk/ciwl.htm (http://www.eastbank.org.uk/ciwl.htm)) that discusses a Tri-Ang R625 CIWL Sleeping Car.  The model is similar to the old Farish wooden Pullman (see photo 1) and I wondered if it would be possible to produce something similar in N gauge.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-131219155631.jpeg)
Photo 1. Tri-Ang CIWL Sleeping Car (Voiture - Lits). (© EBMRC)

Graham Farish did attempt a similar model themselves many years ago with the now rare CIWL Pullman cars.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-131219155650.jpeg)
Photo 2. Original Graham Farish CIWL Pullman Dining Car.

Further investigation indicated a reasonable representation for the 1950/60s CIWL Night Ferry train would be:

* Fouregon
* Voiture - Lits x 2 (Sleeping Cars)
* Voiture - Restaurant (Dining Car)
* Pullman/ Voiture Bagages (Baggage Car)

Unlike my previous Farish wooden Pullman project, this one would require repainting, artwork and bespoke interiors for some of the cars.  The price of Farish wooden Pullmans seems to have got rather high so before wrecking a significant number of these coaches I decided a test build was needed!  :worried:

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-131219155612.jpeg)
Photo 3. Starting point - the Graham Farish wooden Pullman dining car (0646). (© Hattons)

After disassembling the coach (see my previous Pullman article for details) the body was submerged in IPA for 2+ hours.  All this achieved was a loosening of the writing on the Pullman car - the brown and yellow paint had not lifted at all.  After following the advice of @Dr Al (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=263), @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099), @Graham63 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1323) and @Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264), I attacked the coach with a fibre glass pencil and eventually removed the yellow paint (see photo 4) - the brown paint was not going anywhere!

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-131219155710.jpeg)
Photo 4. Pullman car stripped of lettering and yellow paint.

As can be seen, the stripped car did not exactly look great, but the next step was to spray it with two light coats of Halford’s Grey Primer.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-131219155728.jpeg)
Photo 5. Primed Pullman car.

After 24 hours, the car had two light coats of Humbrol Acrylic Spray 15 Midnight Blue Gloss applied (see photo 6 - sorry for the lighting).  To my surprise, the end result is more than passable.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/356-131219155748.jpeg)
Photo 6. Pullman car sprayed with Humbrol Midnight Blue.

Remaining tasks:

* Create the artwork to adorn the sides of the car and apply.
* Spray the roof silver.
* Paint the chassis sole bars black.
* Create a Sleeping Car interior and fit.
* Upgrade glazing if required.
* Seal car body with matt varnish.
* Replace wheels with blackened Farish ones.
* Reassemble.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: exmouthcraig on December 13, 2019, 05:54:59 PM
Nice job @Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356) it will be nice to see the artwork, bit of trial and error on sizes but a fantastic coach on completion.

You got a nice rake to work through???

Hauled by something worthwhile I hope  :hmmm:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Train Waiting on December 13, 2019, 07:41:02 PM
Excellent stuff; thank you very much.

Best wishes.

John
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 13, 2019, 08:50:59 PM
Hi @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099)

I have enough Pullmans and a Fourgon to complete the train but as I said it is worth doing a proof of concept first.  If it works then great but if not then not too much is wasted.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Innovationgame on December 14, 2019, 06:34:18 AM
Hi @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099)

I have enough Pullmans and a Fourgon to complete the train but as I said it is worth doing a proof of concept first.  If it works then great but if not then not too much is wasted.

Kind regards

Paddy
You have a lot more patience and confidence in your skill than I do.  :wonderfulmodelling:
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on December 14, 2019, 01:56:02 PM
You have a lot more patience and confidence in your skill than I do.  :wonderfulmodelling:

Hi @Innovationgame (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3091)

Not sure about that!  :no:

The amazing people on this forum have given me inspiration and a willingness to "have a go".  We are fortunate these days as the products available (paints, varnish etc.) are extensive and readily available online.  In most cases, I find the Humbrol Acrylic spray cans to be quite effective and give a good result.  I also think it is important to be realistic about one's expectations as there is very little chance of me getting anywhere near RTR in terms of finish.

Sadly, a lot of the later models are rather difficult to take apart and repaint without damaging them and this is why I use older Farish, LIMA and PECO models.

As always, I appreciate everyone's kind comments and support.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 20, 2020, 05:12:02 PM
MILITARY TRAIN - PART #1

Progress on the CIWL cars ground to a halt over the Christmas period for a variety of reasons.  The CIWL project has not been cancelled, but to get my modelling mojo back I have changed tack!

Another train I always wanted on HOLLERTON JUNCTION was a military one e.g. Warflats with tanks etc.  The limiting factor has been the availability of suitable armour for the train until a post by Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7851) ) back in September highlighting his 1:160 models of various vehicles.

The following thread details the journey that Kevin and I have been on...

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46554.0 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46554.0)

To cut a long story short, Kevin created a 1:150 model of the British Cromwell tank for me.  You can see the result of our efforts on page 8 of the above thread.  I cannot recommend Kevin's models highly enough and he is willing to scale them to any size you want.  I went for 1:150 to give a wee bit of wriggle room on the Warflats.

The military train will be made up of a number of wagons and the first three are:

1. Minitrix BR Ventilated Van (13572).
2. PECO 5 Plank Open Wagon Kit (KNR-40).
3. Minitrix 20 Ton BR Brake Van (13570).

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-200120163903.jpeg)
Photo 1. The first three wagons.

Although the Minitrix ventilated van is based on a German prototype, I thought it would look good within my consist giving a European/NATO feel.  The wagon was stripped down to its components parts and washed thoroughly in warm soapy water.  Once dry, the body and roof were soaked in IPA to remove the printing (took about 1 hour).

The only issue I had was removing the body from the chassis as it is held in place by four plastic lugs.  These need to be pressed in to release the chassis but on my model they were very brittle and broke off.  I suspect this is down to the age of the model and can easily be remedied with a spot of glue when reassembling.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-200120163922.jpeg)
Photo 2. Minitrix BR Ventilated Van.

The PECO 5 plank open wagon will be used to carry tarpaulined supplies.  This is the first time I have bought this particular kit and I am very impressed.  The only issue is that there are some door supports on the inside that I need to remove to get the intended load to fit.  As above, the body was cleaned in IPA for 20 minutes prior to painting.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-200120163943.jpeg)
Photo 3. PECO 5 Plank Open Wagon Kit.

The Minitrix brake van is a very good model (for its day) and in plentiful supply on eBay.  Fortunately, I already had this particular one in stock.  The only issue is getting the roof off as Minitrix and/or some previous owners tend to glue them in place as they can be rather loose.  My roof was only held on with a wee bit of glue and ping'd off with some gentle pressure.  The model was cleaned in warm soapy water and the printing removed with IPA.  The roof on my brake van was not painted but I still gave it a soak in IPA.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-200120164003.jpeg)
Photo 4. Minitrix 20 Ton BR Brake Van.

Once all bodies/roofs were dry, I followed my now standard practice:

1. Apply a thin coat of Halfords Grey Primer.
2. Apply a coat of Humbrol Acrylic Spray 86 Light Olive.

These items will be left to cure overnight before applying a coat of Testors Clear Coat and reassembly.  I will upload photos of the completed wagons once they are finished.

This is not the end of the train!  There will be additional wagons added in the coming days/weeks and I will keep you all up-to-date with progress.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
Dream It | Believe It | Achieve It
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Panzer-Shop.nl on January 20, 2020, 05:18:23 PM
Very nice. I’m glad I could help out! :)
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 21, 2020, 12:35:15 PM
MILITARY TRAIN - PART #2

The first three wagons of my military train have cured and had a coat of Testors Clear Coat applied.  Reassembly of the wagons was relatively straight forward but I thought it would be useful for others to know the issues I had to address.

As mentioned previously, the chassis of the Minitrix ventialted van had to be glued to the body.  This required the ballast weight and both ends to have glue applied (a wee bit more than anticipated).  The Minitrix wheels (which I am not a fan of as they move on their axles) were inserted and adjuasted with back-to-back gauge.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-210120121516.jpeg)
Photo 1. Minitrix BR Ventilated Van.

This PECO 5 plank open wagon went together easily although I struggled with the little hexagonal nuts.  Does anyone know of a tool/small spanner that makes this process easy?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-210120121539.jpeg)
Photo 2. PECO 5 Plank Open Wagon.

The open wagon was completed by the addition of a covered load from the Graham Farish Scenecraft pack 42-545.  These are very impressive little models and are quite weighty.  To stop the load shifting around, I placed a couple of pieces of blu tack underneath.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-210120121556.jpeg)
Photo 3. Graham Farish Scenecraft Tarpaulin Covered Wagon Loads.

The only issue with the brake van was those pesky shifting Minitrix wheelsets.  As above, they were checked with the back-to-back gauge once inserted.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-210120121621.jpeg)
Photo 4. Minitrix 20 Ton BR Brake Van.

The final photo shows the three wagons connected together.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-210120121453.jpeg)

There are still a number of other wagons to complete e.g. Warflats, Gunpowder Van and an NGS Lowmac (the most complex kit I will have attempted!).

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: maridunian on January 21, 2020, 01:19:26 PM

The final photo shows the three wagons connected together.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-210120121453.jpeg)

There are still a number of other wagons to complete e.g. Warflats, Gunpowder Van and an NGS Lowmac (the most complex kit I will have attempted!).

All looking very neat and, well, military! Personally, I'd be tempted to use a different camo colour on the tarpaulin, or maybe just a black wash to darken it.

?15? years ago I cobbled a Rectank, Warflats and a Warwell from (then) cheap US freight wagons:

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33185.msg382749#msg382749 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33185.msg382749#msg382749)

It seems my cargo was fake too - the Crusader is actually an A13 Mk. III and the Bedford's really a Chevrolet...

Mike
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Train Waiting on January 21, 2020, 04:26:50 PM
That's going to be a very interesting train... a bit different from what one normally sees.

This PECO 5 plank open wagon went together easily although I struggled with the little hexagonal nuts.  Does anyone know of a tool/small spanner that makes this process easy?

To my very great shame, I just use (carefully!) a pair of pointed pliars.  Very poor engineering practice!

These nuts are between 9 and 10BA.  I expect a metric size and finding a metric spanner around Poppingham isn't likely to be successful.

With best wishes.

John
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: port perran on January 21, 2020, 04:40:37 PM
That is, as John says, something a bit different.
Those wagons look really good but I must agree with Mike in that the tarpaulin would look good in a different colour. Maybe khaki or grey perhaps?

Regards

Martin
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: crewearpley40 on January 21, 2020, 04:44:48 PM
I  Folded my tarpaulin and ran a was of grey and brown over adding streaks to crease lines. I third above comments
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 21, 2020, 05:01:45 PM

The final photo shows the three wagons connected together.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/356-210120121453.jpeg)

There are still a number of other wagons to complete e.g. Warflats, Gunpowder Van and an NGS Lowmac (the most complex kit I will have attempted!).

All looking very neat and, well, military! Personally, I'd be tempted to use a different camo colour on the tarpaulin, or maybe just a black wash to darken it.

?15? years ago I cobbled a Rectank, Warflats and a Warwell from (then) cheap US freight wagons:

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33185.msg382749#msg382749 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33185.msg382749#msg382749)

It seems my cargo was fake too - the Crusader is actually an A13 Mk. III and the Bedford's really a Chevrolet...

Mike

Hi Mike ( @maridunian (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2947) )

Thank you for your kind comments and love your military train too.  As for load, I believe you may be right although the difference is greater in real life.  I will wait until the train is complete and make a decision then.  That load is also quite high and there are four to choose from.  ;)

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 21, 2020, 05:03:25 PM
That's going to be a very interesting train... a bit different from what one normally sees.

This PECO 5 plank open wagon went together easily although I struggled with the little hexagonal nuts.  Does anyone know of a tool/small spanner that makes this process easy?

To my very great shame, I just use (carefully!) a pair of pointed pliars.  Very poor engineering practice!

These nuts are between 9 and 10BA.  I expect a metric size and finding a metric spanner around Poppingham isn't likely to be successful.

With best wishes.

John

Hi John ( @Train Waiting (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6222) )

Doh, that is a good idea and I did not think of that!  I was struggling with tweezers which are just not man enough for the job.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 21, 2020, 05:05:04 PM
That is, as John says, something a bit different.
Those wagons look really good but I must agree with Mike in that the tarpaulin would look good in a different colour. Maybe khaki or grey perhaps?

Regards

Martin

Hi Martin ( @port perran (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=230) )

I think you are both right and I will revisit the load once the train is complete.  I am awaiting delivery of some Evergreen planked sheeting to complete the Warflats.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 21, 2020, 05:06:03 PM
I  Folded my tarpaulin and ran a was of grey and brown over adding streaks to crease lines. I third above comments

Hi @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894)

OK, I take a hint.  :D

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: crewearpley40 on January 21, 2020, 05:07:32 PM
Lifecolor or tamiya products should do the trick paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 21, 2020, 05:09:04 PM
Hi Folks,

Without wanting to sound big headed, the paint finish on the wagons is exceptional.  All credit to Halfords, Humbrol, Testors and advice from this forum - it has delivered a factory finish.

Many thanks

Paddy
Title: Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
Post by: Paddy on January 21, 2020, 05:10:08 PM
Lifecolor or tamiya products should do the trick paddy

Oooh, now you are testing me @crewearpley40 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3894) - I am a Humbrol man!  ;)

Paddy
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