Headline from this quarter's announcements is that EFE are releasing a Class 23 Baby Deltic in multiple examples.
Other items of note are two-car Class 101 DMUs in Green, blue, and Regional Railways colour schemes, including sound examples, TPO carriages, and GBRF HYA wagons, and 8 plank private owners wagons (4 examples).
Was going to say the Bachmann announcements was poor for N.
Farish only doing new run of (sound fitted) 101s, some postal coaches, old coal and modern coal hoppers (GBRF).
But
EFE have announced the class 23 baby Deltic, which is good for some?
Actually putting some perspective on it, look at all the "obscure" diesels now being offered?
A few years ago, having class 17. 23 and 41 in N gauge would have seemed a little far fetched!
Skyline2uk
N gauge is discussed first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AQFzLZxTcg
Bachmann Collectors Club N scale exclusive V2 Green Arrow BR late crest livery and LNER livery from Locomotion
Class 101 2-car DMUs with 2-character headcode boxes
BR Green, BR Blue, Regional Railways
***All new EFE Rail Class 23 Baby Deltic*** about to enter production for issue in 2026.
From a class of ten there are lots of options
Green with discs (4 locos) D5902/D5906/D5907/D5909 (all ~1959-1964)
Green SYP (2 locos) D5900 (1964-1968)/D5905 (1964-1971)
Green SYP (1 loco, Derby Research Centre loco with 1970s blue TOPS data panel) D5901 (1969-1977)
Green FYP (2 locos) D5903 (1967-1968)/D5908 (1967-1969)
Blue FYP (1 loco) D5909 (1968-1971)
Re-runs of Mail POS coaches in 4 liveries
8 plank Wagons in two PO liveries
HYA Coal Hoppers GBRF/VTG
Another thread here:
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=66206.new#new
Maybe a mod merge?
Skyline2uk
Graham Muz on RMWeb (Kernow product development chap) has stated that the Baby Deltic does not use anything from the previously touted DJM project, which suggests that Kernow are responsible for bringing this model to EFE.
Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 04, 2026, 10:45:14 AMAnother thread here:
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=66206.new#new
Maybe a mod merge?
Skyline2uk
Yes a great idea, but it won't be Mick
@Newportnobby doing the merging cos he's been wanting a baby deltic for years, and he'll be partying. I only hope his pacemaker keeps going :smiley-laughing:
V2 60800 Green Arrow in BR green is a "must have" for me so I logged on to the "Collectors Club" part of the Bachmann site with great excitement to buy one, only to find that the sound fitted ones show "sold out". I am assuming that they are actually not in stock yet in reality, but am querying.
Roy
Quote from: Bob G on February 04, 2026, 11:04:20 AMQuote from: Skyline2uk on February 04, 2026, 10:45:14 AMAnother thread here:
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=66206.new#new
Maybe a mod merge?
Skyline2uk
Yes a great idea, but it won't be Mick @Newportnobby doing the merging cos he's been wanting a baby deltic for years, and he'll be partying. I only hope his pacemaker keeps going :smiley-laughing:
I'm not nerging with any Mod!! :no: :( :o
D5905 green SYP pre ordered :)
P.S. Already got one built by
@Dalteth of this parish :P
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Quote from: Carmont on February 04, 2026, 10:46:38 AMGraham Muz on RMWeb (Kernow product development chap) has stated that the Baby Deltic does not use anything from the previously touted DJM project, which suggests that Kernow are responsible for bringing this model to EFE.
Every EFE box I have has "distributed on behalf of KMRC" on it so much to thank that retailer for.
Been after a green DMU for a while so that's welcome and will find a home for a 23 too.
So for me, when I add in a 46 in the post somewhere too, it's a good day to be in n gauge.
An NEM coupling upgrade to their MK1 suburban would be a welcome future move to tie in with the Baby Deltic
Thankfully years after expressing an interest in DJM ones it finally gets made :thumbsup:
Sound 37, 20 etc next please :)
Craig
I was going to say nothing for me here.
I have never seen any evidence of them on southern metals (despite having evidence for classes 15/16 from Stratford and 24/25/27 from Willesden)
But I'm still thinking about it. Might wait for the EFE cut price sale, as they did with class 41s earlier this year.
The class 23 is a bit niche but I hope it sells well.
Seems I've morphed into ordering virtually anything I remember from my spotting days.
Even the one Napier engine sounded awesome leaving Kings Cross and heading into Gasworks Tunnel :heart2:
Rule 1 ! within reason :)
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 04, 2026, 12:15:08 PMSeems I've morphed into ordering virtually anything I remember from my spotting days.
Oh dear. Snap. I weakened in less than 3 1/2 hours and ordered D5905, based on longevity of use in my favourite livery.
I used to like going to Finsbury Park and wandering down to the Sheds. Usually lots of Deltics on shed, and Pullman "Doris" by the station.
Bob G
Who's going to build a model of Finsbury Park shed or Stratford works to park their failed baby Deltic in?
Seriously, I hope it does well, as it seems to have had a lot of requests or suggestions.
Martyn
Quote from: martyn on February 04, 2026, 01:21:42 PMWho's going to build a model of Finsbury Park shed or Stratford works to park their failed baby Deltic in?
I seem to recall Finsbury Park was a fairly modern, clean depot with raised platforms at loco door level, whereas Stratford was a large, rambling, clinker open space with a few old sheds
I was tempted by the 2-car Green Class 101 until I realised it was the Power-Twin version. Hopefully they will announce a 3-car version in the near future to add to my existing model.
The only thing for me from this announcement is the Era-5 Post Office Sorting Van.
Think my wallet is mostly safe except for the mail coaches.
Got a perfectly good kit built baby deltic and no reasonable excuse to run it either.
Quote from: Carmont on February 04, 2026, 10:46:38 AMGraham Muz on RMWeb (Kernow product development chap) has stated that the Baby Deltic does not use anything from the previously touted DJM project, which suggests that Kernow are responsible for bringing this model to EFE.
As the djm 23 was merely at a CAD stage I would be amazed if it was used as a basis, we saw with kr and the king that buying CAD's from someone else does not always work, easier to start again. But hopefully EFE will work through the DJM plans and a King and Q6 might yet appear
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 04, 2026, 01:33:50 PMQuote from: martyn on February 04, 2026, 01:21:42 PMWho's going to build a model of Finsbury Park shed or Stratford works to park their failed baby Deltic in?
I seem to recall Finsbury Park was a fairly modern, clean depot with raised platforms at loco door level, whereas Stratford was a large, rambling, clinker open space with a few old sheds
:offtopicsign:
Both Fin Park and Stratford
diesel depot were newbuilds.
The cl 23s stood outside the
works, a different place.
Martyn
Quote from: eddief83 on February 04, 2026, 01:49:54 PMQuote from: Carmont on February 04, 2026, 10:46:38 AMGraham Muz on RMWeb (Kernow product development chap) has stated that the Baby Deltic does not use anything from the previously touted DJM project, which suggests that Kernow are responsible for bringing this model to EFE.
As the djm 23 was merely at a CAD stage I would be amazed if it was used as a basis, we saw with kr and the king that buying CAD's from someone else does not always work, easier to start again. But hopefully EFE will work through the DJM plans and a King and Q6 might yet appear
When the EFE class 74 came out in OO a few months ago we were told in no uncertain terms that there was nothing shared from the DJM OO class 71. The reality was a very similar chassis block, bogie towers, and design approach, with thankfully better electronics and motor.
The EFE N gauge Class 17 Clayton, Mermaid ballast wagon and Shark ballast brake van all used existing Dies. The EFE Baby Deltic might have borrowed an unknown amount from the original CAD but as we've never seen anything in the flesh, and it is not derived from any other EFE or DJM design, I would imagine the Graham Muz/Kernow magic will make sure it is more robust than the prototype was, and will last longer than 10 years on our layouts!
Bob G
Likewise, the EFE Rail J94 claimed no links with the proposed DJM model yet if you looked at the CAD there were a lot of similarities.
I don't believe Kernow/EFE bought the DJM CAD, however I do suspect the Chinese designer went off and copied someone else's work.
Quote from: Steven B on February 04, 2026, 03:07:08 PMLikewise, the EFE Rail J94 claimed no links with the proposed DJM model yet if you looked at the CAD there were a lot of differences.
I don't believe Kernow/EFE bought the DJM CAD, however I do suspect the Chinese designer went off and copied someone else's work.
It's a model. Isn't that the whole point of a model :D
It can be very hard to tell what was copied. I've seen a load of OO gauge kits and RTR models of things like the class 29 that all have the same mistake, but you can often chase the mistakes back down to all using dodgy sources in the first place. My favourite being a book that had a drawing of a class 29 directly opposite a photograph clearly showing the drawing was wrong 8)
Quote from: martyn on February 04, 2026, 01:53:11 PMThe cl 23s stood outside the works, a different place.
Martyn
The don't works presumably :D
Sadly one depot is now under a station and the other under a load of flats.
Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 04, 2026, 10:06:09 AMWas going to say the Bachmann announcements was poor for N.
Farish only doing new run of (sound fitted) 101s, some postal coaches, old coal and modern coal hoppers (GBRF).
Really? Admittedly it wasn't exactly a feast of new releases, but at least they are releasing some useful mainstream items. Have we already forgotten about Toiletgate? :D
One depot I never got to. It seemed to be miles from Stratford station, which itself was an Art Deco marvel complete with Clacton Units seemingly doing a ton through the station with no yellow "stand back from the edge" markings at all.
Those were the days.
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Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 04, 2026, 03:15:51 PMQuote from: Steven B on February 04, 2026, 03:07:08 PMLikewise, the EFE Rail J94 claimed no links with the proposed DJM model yet if you looked at the CAD there were a lot of differences.
I don't believe Kernow/EFE bought the DJM CAD, however I do suspect the Chinese designer went off and copied someone else's work.
It's a model. Isn't that the whole point of a model :D
It can be very hard to tell what was copied.
I meant I felt there were a lot of similarities between the DJM and EFE CAD - and not just the important bits that make it look like a J94. The moldings around the coupling mounting looked identical for example.
That said, I'm very happy with my EFE J94s and hopefully the Baby Deltic will be just as good.
Quote from: Steven B on February 05, 2026, 09:15:29 AMThat said, I'm very happy with my EFE J94s and hopefully the Baby Deltic will be just as good.
If it's anything like as good as the class 17 and class 41 (grounding aside) it should be a cracker
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 05, 2026, 09:33:03 AMQuote from: Steven B on February 05, 2026, 09:15:29 AMThat said, I'm very happy with my EFE J94s and hopefully the Baby Deltic will be just as good.
If it's anything like as good as the class 17 and class 41 (grounding aside) it should be a cracker
Don't have a 41 but do have a couple of 17s and couldn't agree more Nobby
I beleive what Kernow say about origins but, if (when) an accurate well running robust 23 arrives on our layouts towards the back end of the year, who cares? I don't
You're all odd.
There, someone had to say it.
:D
Quote from: emjaybee on February 05, 2026, 02:35:53 PMYou're all odd.
There, someone had to say it.
:D
On the other hand, it takes one to know one :smiley-laughing:
So, Farish announce 374-901C - an era 5 sorting van with lights fitted..........that don't work.
???
I have ½ a dozen of the 374-901 with lights that do work.
???
Would it have been so difficult for the sorting van to have working lights or did Farish suffer with issues I'm unaware of?
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 12, 2026, 03:57:39 PMSo, Farish announce 374-901C - an era 5 sorting van with lights fitted..........that don't work.
???
I have ½ a dozen of the 374-901 with lights that do work.
???
Would it have been so difficult for the sorting van to have working lights or did Farish suffer with issues I'm unaware of?
Increase in electric prices innit.
Quote from: emjaybee on February 12, 2026, 06:38:57 PMIncrease in electric prices innit.
Yeah. Those light emitting diodes are sooooooo expensive.
374-901 (W80300) & 374-901A (W80301) had working lights. The last release, 374-901B (SC80315) came without, as appears will be the case for the latest 'C' revision.
I picked up some spares of the first two with the working lights, and swapped the chassis with the PCB for the chassis without the PCB, so I could have all numbers with working lights. I also therefore have a few I can run without the lights. I might do the same again with the new version.
It does seem a strange choice; I can't remember what the pickup arrangement is, but the only other difference is the PCB with a few components and the LEDs on it. I can't imagine the cost is that significant, but I can only assume that's the rationale for not including it.
At least the last release did have the orange lenses in the bodyside, so it was possible to do the chassis swap. Hopefully the new one will be just the same.
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 12, 2026, 03:57:39 PMSo, Farish announce 374-901C - an era 5 sorting van with lights fitted..........that don't work.
???
I have ½ a dozen of the 374-901 with lights that do work.
???
Would it have been so difficult for the sorting van to have working lights or did Farish suffer with issues I'm unaware of?