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Dear all,

I'm trying to get the next NGF anniversary rolling stock ready, but I need your help.

There are some options for what rolling stock is available in large quantities, and I'd like you to choose which you'd prefer.

Additionally, I'd need to know what it would look like.  The last wagon was red, so I don't know if there would be preference for the same colour, or something different?

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thank you.   :)

My vote would be for a simplistic design along the lines of the last one but a different colour.
How about black with white or yellow wording?

I suppose I would slightly prefer a van to an open wagon, but I don't really mind. What anniversary are we celebrating, is it 25? If so, something with silver lettering would be a bit different!

Cheers,

Chris

I'll buy one, whatever, but I'm tempted to suggest a cattle truck, as appropriate for some of our members.  Hat, coat, exit stage left and right.....

We haven't had a van

Traditionally it's crystal for a 15th Anniversary but that doesn't lend itself to model railways.
I have all sorts of commemorative wagons so another van would fit in well, maybe with just simple lettering stating 'NGF - 15th Anniversary.

Quote from: snitchthebudgie on June 30, 2025, 12:54:06 PMI'll buy one, whatever, but I'm tempted to suggest a cattle truck, as appropriate for some of our members.  Hat, coat, exit stage left and right.....

If it is a van type, then how about a beer wagon with the lettering in silver as another post suggested. May be 'N.G.F. Brewery' or other text with N G and F in it somehow?

Cheers! :beers:

Quote from: Newportnobby on June 30, 2025, 01:37:11 PMTraditionally it's crystal for a 15th Anniversary but that doesn't lend itself to model railways.
I have all sorts of commemorative wagons so another van would fit in well, maybe with just simple lettering stating 'NGF - 15th Anniversary.

Ooo, you sentimental old thing you.

Here's some alternative information that could be 'manipulated' along that theme...

15 yr anniversary, traditional and alternative themes:

Watches     Maybe a clockmakers van?
Crystal     Maybe a glass manufacturers van?
Red         We've done red so what about...?
Ruby        A red alternative?

That's it, that's my half-a-groats worth of input.

Quote from: Newportnobby on June 30, 2025, 01:37:11 PMTraditionally it's crystal for a 15th Anniversary but that doesn't lend itself to model railways.
I have all sorts of commemorative wagons so another van would fit in well, maybe with just simple lettering stating 'NGF - 15th Anniversary.

Gosh, is it only 15 years? I feel like I've been a member for a lot longer than that...  :doh:

But, yes, I like the idea of an NGF beer wagon. Or tanker?

Cheers,

Chris

Sadly tank wagons are not an option hence the 3 options in the poll

I know not many people on here model modern image, but possibly a 20 or 40ft container could be an option.
regardless, great idea.
cheers
Graham

Quote from: Graham on June 30, 2025, 11:09:56 PMI know not many people on here model modern image, but possibly a 20 or 40ft container could be an option.
regardless, great idea.
cheers
Graham

Or, as Peco also do them, as another possible alternative, how about a Conflat with an "NGF 15" container?

Roy

Quote from: Graham on June 30, 2025, 11:09:56 PMI know not many people on here model modern image, but possibly a 20 or 40ft container could be an option.
regardless, great idea.
cheers
Graham

Unfortunately as I understand it, they are not an option from the supplier.

fair enough, as I mentioned just an idea.
I will be purchasing one regardless.

Some folk can't stand wagons like this, but I love em! If I go somewhere, I bring back souvenirs (usually tea towels), but, if they are available, why not railway models?

I have wagons from Kyoto Railway Museum, Minatur Wunderland, and various Peco ones - including Charles coronation, courtesy of @Train Waiting .

Bring it on, @Tank ! :beers:

Thanks for the input so far.

Sadly, the options in the poll are all that are available in number.

Please keep voting folks.  I want to get this started in the next couple of weeks, ideally.

And I agree Papyrus, it feels longer to me as well!  :*(  ;D

Being purely selfish I'd love something which wouldn't look out of place in Europe but I know that's not going to happen :)

Whatever is is I'll have one for the display case :)

Cheeky, I know, from someone who's barely been here 25 days, but how about making it something relatively low-key that won't look out-of-place if used in more prototypic sets?  Plenty of us are not exactly rolling in ££££ and need to make the most of rolling-stock purchases.   To that end, here's an idea of the sort of thing I mean - (you'll need to zoom-in a bit!)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XY7twmMF/NGF-2025-wagon.png)

I appreciate that (tongue-in-cheek) details will need adjusting - e.g. red-on-black is scarcely legible at any print size, never mind 1:148!

I like that, especially the '10ft - feels longer' ;D

What about a Siphon G or H ?
I know they used to be available unpainted from Dapol.
They could be realistically liveried to appeal to modellers of non passenger rollingstock as well as goods vehicles.
I'm sure someone could come up with an authentic and believable scheme ...

Quote from: madchadbrad on July 01, 2025, 10:43:11 PMWhat about a Siphon G or H ? ...

In the perhaps unlikely event this is possible, I'm actually looking out for a couple I can use in an era 5-6 contex  :thumbsup: t

As has already been pointed out, the only options available are at the top of the thread.

I really like the idea of a beer wagon !
It would let us have a wagon specific to the NGF (brewery) and easy to use with regular wagons.
No matter whether it is a Peco van or a Dapol GPV.

Quote from: Bealman on July 01, 2025, 11:11:50 PMAs has already been pointed out, the only options available are at the top of the thread.

Welcome to this month's "ignore the OP wish-listing thread..."  ::)

The Beer van idea sounds like a good idea to offer scope for something eye-catching and believable that would be usable on many layouts, but subtly reference the forum so that those in the know would instantly recognise.
Something like:

The PECO Ventilated box van would be more appropriate for this than the steel bodied GPV.

I concur with the brewery idea, but I'd really only be interested if it was an authentic looking vehicle that I could run with other stock, along the lines of PLD's idea.  Perhaps the van could have a livery such as this, and a number 15:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/5142/5562447672_3e65e3b09d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9twZUd)central - lgw salt wagon falkirk srps c72 JL (https://flic.kr/p/9twZUd) by John Law (https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmightycat/), on Flickr

Quote from: Firstone18 on June 30, 2025, 01:57:24 PM

Quote from: snitchthebudgie on June 30, 2025, 12:54:06 PMI'll buy one, whatever, but I'm tempted to suggest a cattle truck, as appropriate for some of our members.  Hat, coat, exit stage left and right.....

If it is a van type, then how about a beer wagon with the lettering in silver as another post suggested. May be 'N.G.F. Brewery' or other text with N G and F in it somehow?

Cheers! :beers:

Or the blue NGF logo that Tank has below his messages would look fine on a van.

Sadly I don't think something like a scrap wagon labelled "Fissed Old Parts" would pass NGF family muster.

Or a warflat with tank on it  :beers:

@PLD There was a Northgate Brewery in Chester, demolished in 1969.

Stuart

More nonsense...

(https://i.postimg.cc/MpDztmhk/NGF-2025-wagon-3.png)

 :beers:  The reshursch woz terrrrribill! *HIC!*  Churz!  :beers:

Quote from: Stuarted on July 03, 2025, 10:45:30 PM@PLD There was a Northgate Brewery in Chester, demolished in 1969.

Stuart

There still is (technically) a Northgate brewery here in Devizes. I say technically as it has closed down (moved really) this year but the building itself won't be demolished. It will be turned into flats.

(https://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/07/74/76/7747620_60af07a7.jpg)

Quote from: port perran on June 30, 2025, 12:21:39 PMMy vote would be for a simplistic design along the lines of the last one but a different colour.
How about black with white or yellow wording?

Yes, Black Van with yellow lettering shaded red! Poss to be less usual a "Gunpowder" shape as glass is heavy and would not be stacked high.

NGF     N_orthern G_lass F_actors

 :)

One side of me says that post #17 is cool.

But the other side looks at it from a promotional point of view, and thinks that we should have a wagon that stands out and says, "Hey, this is the N Gauge Forum!"

To me, wagons like this are one offs, and are exactly what they are - remembering and promoting.

An NGF wagon rolling around an exhibition layout can't be doing the forum any harm, eh.

Quote from: Bealman on July 04, 2025, 11:15:02 AMOne side of me says that post #17 is cool.

But the other side looks at it from a promotional point of view, and thinks that we should have a wagon that stands out and says, "Hey, this is the N Gauge Forum!"

To me, wagons like this are one offs, and are exactly what they are - remembering and promoting.

An NGF wagon rolling around an exhibition layout can't be doing the forum any harm, eh.

What George means is that the venerable old codgers on 'ere won't be able to tell if it's their GWR, LMS or Southern wagon without 1" high lettering.
(That's 25.4mm to those of us under 60)

How about the wording reading something like:

N Gauge Forum
  Hoppy 15

I'm assuming a beer van for this.
Is this a possibility?
Cheers! :beers:

For those of us/you who think 15 years feels too short, wasn't there a N-gauge Yahoo group before that crashed and the NGF was set up? That had been around since well before the 21st century began.

Quote from: madchadbrad on August 03, 2025, 02:37:52 PMFor those of us/you who think 15 years feels too short, wasn't there a N-gauge Yahoo group before that crashed and the NGF was set up? That had been around since well before the 21st century began.

@madchadbrad

I am not sure what you mean by "crashed."  I believe the N Gauge and N Gauge Society Yahoo groups morphed into io groups and can be found here:

https://groups.io/g/ngauge

https://groups.io/g/ngs

They are both still active but receive less posts that the NGF. 

Ian

Quote from: icairns on August 03, 2025, 04:57:57 PMI am not sure what you mean by "crashed."  I believe the N Gauge and N Gauge Society Yahoo groups morphed into io groups and can be found here:

https://groups.io/g/ngauge

https://groups.io/g/ngs

They are both still active but receive less posts that the NGF. 

Ian

Thanks!
All I remember was that the yahoo groups disappeared at a busy time in my life and that I discovered the NGF later, when my life calmed down a bit!
I've had a peek and can see a vague "yahoo resemblance" in terms of the style and format of the groups.
I will keep my life simple and stick to just the NGF anyway!