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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: Tank on June 30, 2025, 11:21:40 AM

Poll
Question: What style of wagon would you be most interested in?
Option 1: Peco Vent Van
Option 2: Dapol Gunpowder Van
Option 3: Plank Wagon
Option 4: I don't mind.  I would just love more NGF rolling stock!
Title: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Tank on June 30, 2025, 11:21:40 AM
Dear all,

I'm trying to get the next NGF anniversary rolling stock ready, but I need your help.

There are some options for what rolling stock is available in large quantities, and I'd like you to choose which you'd prefer.

Additionally, I'd need to know what it would look like.  The last wagon was red, so I don't know if there would be preference for the same colour, or something different?

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thank you.   :)
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: port perran on June 30, 2025, 12:21:39 PM
My vote would be for a simplistic design along the lines of the last one but a different colour.
How about black with white or yellow wording?
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Papyrus on June 30, 2025, 12:36:46 PM
I suppose I would slightly prefer a van to an open wagon, but I don't really mind. What anniversary are we celebrating, is it 25? If so, something with silver lettering would be a bit different!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: snitchthebudgie on June 30, 2025, 12:54:06 PM
I'll buy one, whatever, but I'm tempted to suggest a cattle truck, as appropriate for some of our members.  Hat, coat, exit stage left and right.....
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Bealman on June 30, 2025, 12:59:47 PM
We haven't had a van
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2025, 01:37:11 PM
Traditionally it's crystal for a 15th Anniversary but that doesn't lend itself to model railways.
I have all sorts of commemorative wagons so another van would fit in well, maybe with just simple lettering stating 'NGF - 15th Anniversary.
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Firstone18 on June 30, 2025, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: snitchthebudgie on June 30, 2025, 12:54:06 PMI'll buy one, whatever, but I'm tempted to suggest a cattle truck, as appropriate for some of our members.  Hat, coat, exit stage left and right.....
If it is a van type, then how about a beer wagon with the lettering in silver as another post suggested. May be 'N.G.F. Brewery' or other text with N G and F in it somehow?

Cheers! :beers:
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: emjaybee on June 30, 2025, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 30, 2025, 01:37:11 PMTraditionally it's crystal for a 15th Anniversary but that doesn't lend itself to model railways.
I have all sorts of commemorative wagons so another van would fit in well, maybe with just simple lettering stating 'NGF - 15th Anniversary.

Ooo, you sentimental old thing you.

Here's some alternative information that could be 'manipulated' along that theme...

15 yr anniversary, traditional and alternative themes:

Watches     Maybe a clockmakers van?
Crystal     Maybe a glass manufacturers van?
Red         We've done red so what about...?
Ruby        A red alternative?

That's it, that's my half-a-groats worth of input.
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Papyrus on June 30, 2025, 03:55:43 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 30, 2025, 01:37:11 PMTraditionally it's crystal for a 15th Anniversary but that doesn't lend itself to model railways.
I have all sorts of commemorative wagons so another van would fit in well, maybe with just simple lettering stating 'NGF - 15th Anniversary.

Gosh, is it only 15 years? I feel like I've been a member for a lot longer than that...  :doh:

But, yes, I like the idea of an NGF beer wagon. Or tanker?

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Newportnobby on June 30, 2025, 04:06:23 PM
Sadly tank wagons are not an option hence the 3 options in the poll
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Graham on June 30, 2025, 11:09:56 PM
I know not many people on here model modern image, but possibly a 20 or 40ft container could be an option.
regardless, great idea.
cheers
Graham
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Roy L S on July 01, 2025, 07:33:19 AM
Quote from: Graham on June 30, 2025, 11:09:56 PMI know not many people on here model modern image, but possibly a 20 or 40ft container could be an option.
regardless, great idea.
cheers
Graham

Or, as Peco also do them, as another possible alternative, how about a Conflat with an "NGF 15" container?

Roy
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Bealman on July 01, 2025, 07:45:54 AM
Quote from: Graham on June 30, 2025, 11:09:56 PMI know not many people on here model modern image, but possibly a 20 or 40ft container could be an option.
regardless, great idea.
cheers
Graham

Unfortunately as I understand it, they are not an option from the supplier.
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Graham on July 01, 2025, 08:21:45 AM
fair enough, as I mentioned just an idea.
I will be purchasing one regardless.
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Bealman on July 01, 2025, 08:33:52 AM
Some folk can't stand wagons like this, but I love em! If I go somewhere, I bring back souvenirs (usually tea towels), but, if they are available, why not railway models?

I have wagons from Kyoto Railway Museum, Minatur Wunderland, and various Peco ones - including Charles coronation, courtesy of @Train Waiting .

Bring it on, @Tank ! :beers:
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Tank on July 01, 2025, 09:14:56 AM
Thanks for the input so far.

Sadly, the options in the poll are all that are available in number.

Please keep voting folks.  I want to get this started in the next couple of weeks, ideally.

And I agree Papyrus, it feels longer to me as well!  :*(  ;D
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: ntpntpntp on July 01, 2025, 09:53:36 AM
Being purely selfish I'd love something which wouldn't look out of place in Europe but I know that's not going to happen :)

Whatever is is I'll have one for the display case :)
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: earlofsodbury on July 01, 2025, 12:59:20 PM
Cheeky, I know, from someone who's barely been here 25 days, but how about making it something relatively low-key that won't look out-of-place if used in more prototypic sets?  Plenty of us are not exactly rolling in ££££ and need to make the most of rolling-stock purchases.   To that end, here's an idea of the sort of thing I mean - (you'll need to zoom-in a bit!)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XY7twmMF/NGF-2025-wagon.png)

I appreciate that (tongue-in-cheek) details will need adjusting - e.g. red-on-black is scarcely legible at any print size, never mind 1:148!
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Newportnobby on July 01, 2025, 03:42:13 PM
I like that, especially the '10ft - feels longer' ;D
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: madchadbrad on July 01, 2025, 10:43:11 PM
What about a Siphon G or H ?
I know they used to be available unpainted from Dapol.
They could be realistically liveried to appeal to modellers of non passenger rollingstock as well as goods vehicles.
I'm sure someone could come up with an authentic and believable scheme ...
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: earlofsodbury on July 01, 2025, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: madchadbrad on July 01, 2025, 10:43:11 PMWhat about a Siphon G or H ? ...

In the perhaps unlikely event this is possible, I'm actually looking out for a couple I can use in an era 5-6 contex  :thumbsup: t
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Bealman on July 01, 2025, 11:11:50 PM
As has already been pointed out, the only options available are at the top of the thread.
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: ohlavache on July 03, 2025, 09:20:48 AM
I really like the idea of a beer wagon !
It would let us have a wagon specific to the NGF (brewery) and easy to use with regular wagons.
No matter whether it is a Peco van or a Dapol GPV.
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: PLD on July 03, 2025, 10:37:41 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 01, 2025, 11:11:50 PMAs has already been pointed out, the only options available are at the top of the thread.
Welcome to this month's "ignore the OP wish-listing thread..."  ::)

The Beer van idea sounds like a good idea to offer scope for something eye-catching and believable that would be usable on many layouts, but subtly reference the forum so that those in the know would instantly recognise.
Something like:
North Gate Finest
Ales & Spirits

The PECO Ventilated box van would be more appropriate for this than the steel bodied GPV.
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Carmont on July 03, 2025, 02:06:56 PM
I concur with the brewery idea, but I'd really only be interested if it was an authentic looking vehicle that I could run with other stock, along the lines of PLD's idea.  Perhaps the van could have a livery such as this, and a number 15:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/5142/5562447672_3e65e3b09d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9twZUd)central - lgw salt wagon falkirk srps c72 JL (https://flic.kr/p/9twZUd) by John Law (https://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmightycat/), on Flickr

Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: EtchedPixels on July 03, 2025, 07:08:35 PM
Quote from: Firstone18 on June 30, 2025, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: snitchthebudgie on June 30, 2025, 12:54:06 PMI'll buy one, whatever, but I'm tempted to suggest a cattle truck, as appropriate for some of our members.  Hat, coat, exit stage left and right.....
If it is a van type, then how about a beer wagon with the lettering in silver as another post suggested. May be 'N.G.F. Brewery' or other text with N G and F in it somehow?

Cheers! :beers:

Or the blue NGF logo that Tank has below his messages would look fine on a van.

Sadly I don't think something like a scrap wagon labelled "Fissed Old Parts" would pass NGF family muster.

Or a warflat with tank on it  :beers:
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: Stuarted on July 03, 2025, 10:45:30 PM
@PLD There was a Northgate Brewery in Chester, demolished in 1969.

Stuart
Title: Re: NGF Wagon/Van 2025 - Ideas?!
Post by: earlofsodbury on July 03, 2025, 11:31:59 PM
More nonsense...

(https://i.postimg.cc/MpDztmhk/NGF-2025-wagon-3.png)

 :beers:  The reshursch woz terrrrribill! *HIC!*  Churz!  :beers: