do any of our members speak Welsh ?
I'm currently in a wargames campaign in the orribley 20mm scale, and I have an idea to have signs on the rear of escort vehicles for convoys / patrols based on the ones seen in Afghan / Iraq.
on the lines of
STAY 100 METRES BACK
IF YOU APPROACH YOU MAY BE FIRED ON
then repeated in Welsh, instead of arabic.
I know, a really daft idea, but would look good IMHO on the rear of a Jackal escorting a convoy or on patrol.
so basically, I need an interpreter. :-[
Don't simply email it to someone, you might get an out of office reply :D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7702913.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7702913.stm)
Google translator gives :-
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
OS YDYCH CHI'N DERBYN Y GELLIR EU TÂN
I have heard, and I make no claims for the accuracy of this story, that a signwriter at a middle -eastern airfield was verbally instructed to write no smoking in Arabic on a fuel bowser. So that's exactly what he did.
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on December 10, 2020, 01:34:55 PM
Google translator gives :-
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
OS YDYCH CHI'N DERBYN Y GELLIR EU TÂN
My contact suggests:
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
POBL SAESNEG BOD IDIOTIAU
Quote from: railsquid on December 10, 2020, 03:18:54 PM
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on December 10, 2020, 01:34:55 PM
Google translator gives :-
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
OS YDYCH CHI'N DERBYN Y GELLIR EU TÂN
My contact suggests:
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
POBL SAESNEG BOD IDIOTIAU
How well do you know this person?
With my limited Welsh knowledge, it pays to know what people are saying behind your back when dating a Welsh girl, the bottom line reads "English people are idiots".
NO SHEEP ARE KEPT IN THIS VEHICLE OVERNIGHT
Quote from: emjaybee on December 10, 2020, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: railsquid on December 10, 2020, 03:18:54 PM
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on December 10, 2020, 01:34:55 PM
Google translator gives :-
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
OS YDYCH CHI'N DERBYN Y GELLIR EU TÂN
My contact suggests:
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
POBL SAESNEG BOD IDIOTIAU
How well do you know this person?
With my limited Welsh knowledge, it pays to know what people are saying behind your back when dating a Welsh girl, the bottom line reads "English people are idiots".
A lovely Japanese lady who happens to have graduated from the University of Tokyo with a PhD in Welsh linguistics (seriously) and an evil sense of humour... Sadly my Welsh doesn't go beyond "ARAF YSGOL" but SAESNEG was an interesting new word to become aware of.
A friend of mine is Welsh speaking PhD of languages and I'm waiting for a reply to an email I fired off to him. I'll let you know as soon as I know.
:thankyousign:
for all your replies, I wasn't expecting to have so many laughs from this post. :smiley-laughing:
I used to work in Wales a lot and often went to different towns and villages to visit shops as part of my job. Every day I saw signs for Gwasanaethau and thought it must be a decent sized place as there were signs for it all along the M4. It took a while to realise that it translated into "Services" and I had in fact visited there several times without realising I was 'in Gwasanaethau' :doh:
Quote from: railsquid on December 10, 2020, 04:07:29 PM
Sadly my Welsh doesn't go beyond "ARAF YSGOL"
Whenever I drive in Wales I keep seeing "SLOW ARAF" painted on the roads and I think that these Araf things can't be all that slow coz I've never once seen any of the blighters :D
managed to get this down to 6 pt Ariel, but how do I get it smaller ?
Hi
I assume you are using the drop down. Just overtype with the size you want in the text box without dropping the list down. You might need to press return to make it change.
Cheers
Paul
The other way would be to use a text box in Paint, and then printer % to reduce further.
Alan
Quote from: railsquid on December 10, 2020, 04:07:29 PM
Sadly my Welsh doesn't go beyond "ARAF YSGOL" but SAESNEG was an interesting new word to become aware of.
I would guess SAESNEG shares origins with the Scottish sassenach.
I think the Gaelic/Gallic translation is b****d english, i'm sure the entire world has historic terms that mean the same...........................
I have a friend called Araf who moved to Wales. When I went to visit him I wondered why his name was white lined on the roads.
Quote from: railsquid on December 10, 2020, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on December 10, 2020, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: railsquid on December 10, 2020, 03:18:54 PM
Quote from: OffshoreAlan on December 10, 2020, 01:34:55 PM
Google translator gives :-
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
OS YDYCH CHI'N DERBYN Y GELLIR EU TÂN
My contact suggests:
AROS 100 METER YN ÔL
POBL SAESNEG BOD IDIOTIAU
How well do you know this person?
With my limited Welsh knowledge, it pays to know what people are saying behind your back when dating a Welsh girl, the bottom line reads "English people are idiots".
A lovely Japanese lady who happens to have graduated from the University of Tokyo with a PhD in Welsh linguistics (seriously) and an evil sense of humour... Sadly my Welsh doesn't go beyond "ARAF YSGOL" but SAESNEG was an interesting new word to become aware of.
Sounds a bit like Sassenach ?
Quote from: PaulCheffus on December 10, 2020, 09:21:11 PM
Hi
I assume you are using the drop down. Just overtype with the size you want in the text box without dropping the list down. You might need to press return to make it change.
Cheers
Paul
worked :thumbsup:
would never have thought of that.
many thanks.
Quote from: acook on December 10, 2020, 10:34:08 PM
I think the Gaelic/Gallic translation is b****d english, i'm sure the entire world has historic terms that mean the same...........................
Gaelic is the English name, for The Irish language "Gaeilge" and the language of the Highlands and Islands language of the west of Scotland, which is "Gaidhlig".
The Gaidhlig expression Sassanach refers to the English AND the Scots. It simply means Saxon and is used for any person that is used for an outsider that can only speak English and not the Gaidhilg.
Back to the original , POBL SAESNEG BOD IDIOTIAU, I was able to read that simply by knowing a few words of Gaidhlig and English.
My mate Gareth just got back to me.
Cadwch 100 medr yn ôl
Os ydych chi'n nesáu efallai y cewch chi eich saethu arnoch
It's a bit wordy, that second bit. As an alternative, how about:
Caiff y sawl sy'n nesáu eu saethu = those who approach will be shot
Hope that helps.
ARHOSWCH 100 METR YN ÔL
OS BYDDWCH YN CYSYLLTU, EFALLAI Y CEWCH EICH TANIO AR
Its an interesting, and thought provoking thread.
My main 'thought' thats being provoked is, "it's no wonder that so few people speak Welsh".
Quote from: emjaybee on December 11, 2020, 11:10:25 AM
Its an interesting, and thought provoking thread.
My main 'thought' thats being provoked is, "it's no wonder that so few people speak Welsh".
The only time I've heard Welsh people speak Welsh is when I've walked into a Welsh pub and the language changes immediately from English to Welsh.
Quote from: Trainfish on December 11, 2020, 03:46:10 PM
Quote from: emjaybee on December 11, 2020, 11:10:25 AM
Its an interesting, and thought provoking thread.
My main 'thought' thats being provoked is, "it's no wonder that so few people speak Welsh".
The only time I've heard Welsh people speak Welsh is when I've walked into a Welsh pub and the language changes immediately from English to Welsh.
Yup, i used to get that occasionally when I was dating the Welsh girl. She taught me enough so that when someone said to me "POBL SAESNEG BOD IDIOTIAU" I replied back "cofiwch pwy laddodd y ddraig". [Remember who killed the dragon].
She wasn't overly fluent in Welsh, despite being born and bred in Powys, but she reckoned that most of the locals who would speak Welsh behind people's back sounded like village idiots to fluent speakers as they could barely string a basic sentence together. On one occasion, some older women in a pub thought Claire was English, so proceeded to call her a English whore. Claire let rip in Welsh for about five minutes and left the women somewhat red-faced. The bar staff nearly wet themselves laughing as they new exactly what Claire had said. 'Twas rather rude, and thankfully the women didn't understand.
On the whole though, my experiences of the Welsh were overwhelmingly positive. Bloody marvellous singers, always good to go out on the lash with Welsh Young Farmers.
And don't forget Birley Shassey!
My ex-girlfriend had a bit of Welsh in her. That was the final straw, she had to go :o