Just wondering????
Am I the only person in the world who doesn't get Facebook??
I have an account but can never get past Page 1 !!!
I have a few "friends" it seems, but they are people I've never heard of and I really don't want to know that someone has just had a piece of steak for tea !!
I'm sure there must be much,much more to Facebook but I really cannot see it.
Can anyone offer any advice ??
Personally I've never seen the point in Facebook or any of these so called social networking sites.How can someone you've never even met be called a friend?
Allan
I don't have a facebook account,won't even entertain having one either.I certainly don't want everyone knowing my own personal business,thats for me to know and no one to find out.
Its the devil.
A colleague of mine was found out by one of the company snoopers for saying stuff about company policy and almost lost his job because of it,it can be used by anyone to find out things about you that are of great detriment to future employment prospects as well.
I know its hugely popular but I think its a monster that will go out of control.
So I for one will give it a miss,same as twitter and whatever else comes along.
Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Facebook is merely a forum like this one, but with less functionality. It's beloved by journalists who don't know their way around the interweb. I'm on there but my privacy settings are at maximum.
Please can I join the merry band of those who can't see the point of Facebook or the like. I cant work out why people think that collecting "friends" who are "friends of friends" is the way to go and then get ever so upset when they are de-friended.
And people think railway modellers are weird. Give me :NGAUGE: any day!!
Jack
I dont do facebook either, cant be doing with their concept of friends, a friend is somebody you call on when you are up to your neck in the brown stuff at silly oclock in the morning needing help, a "friend" gets out of bed and helps not just reads the post!!!
I am on facebook as I like to have interest in what my kids are up to and this is the place to find out, other than that its a total waste of netspace, I really cant stand it, somebody has made an absolute fortune out of it though!!!!!
I joined Facebook last week so I could see what my two Daughters who live 1700km away were up to, I must be getting old as their conversation goes right over the top of my head, the only thing I understood was a picture of Tweety Pie, I think I will stick with emails or a phone call I can understand them.
Having said that we are all different and some people love Facebook but I think it depends what generation you are from as to how much you get out of it, I think it would be great for clubs and other groups.
hi all :wave:
i joined facebook only last friday
the reason was that i was told via a PM on another forum that the reason for :NGaugeForum: being down was on facebook :'(
so i had to join if only to find out what was happening to my favorite forum ;)
dave :thumbsup:
I joined up a few months back, but only for the fact I can make FREE videocalls on it to any of my mates 250 miles away in Hastings where I used to live ;D. Very handy it is too, we can even see each others layouts under construction and running, great stuff! Admittedly it's using my parrots name, that way only people that truly know mw can contact me, can't be doing with all the other crap on there though! :evil:
Its a great site!! It is social networking - You can keep in touch with friends or family or groups as you wish BUT just like other social chit chat (when you're out, in the pub etc) dont say anything you dont want repeated....
:Class414:
In Sept 10 I had a disk removed from my spine, I was stuck in the house for 6 weeks, I resorted to an xbox online racing game to keep me occupied, 4 of the people I met on there (and chatted to on the headset) kept me sane for that 6 weeks. We keep in touch now via facebook as 2 are in Oz, 1 in the South of England and 1 (who is a gorgeous single mum and brilliant racer) lives about 70 miles from me and there is no way SWMBO would ever let me visit personally :smiley-laughing:
They kept me going through a dark time, we keep in touch now and there are no preconceptions.
And N gauge forum is on there ;D
I keep in contact with many friends on there, and also long distance family. I agree it can get you in all kinds of hot water if you're not careful, but just be careful! :) I enjoy talking to friends and seeing pictures of their families growing up.
Quote from: hairygit on February 17, 2012, 09:01:22 PM
I joined up a few months back, but only for the fact I can make FREE videocalls on it to any of my mates 250 miles away in Hastings where I used to live ;D. Very handy it is too, we can even see each others layouts under construction and running, great stuff! Admittedly it's using my parrots name, that way only people that truly know mw can contact me, can't be doing with all the other crap on there though! :evil:
You can do free video calls with Skype.
Allan
Quote from: gawain on February 17, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
And me, :wave: no facebook, no twitter and no smartphone... I do have a mobile, chosen as it comes with a led torch.
Ditto - I have a Blackberry for two reasons: to deal with e-mails without starting up the laptop, and to bid on stuff on Ebay. Never seen the point of Facebook, and even less Twitter. I have no interest in what other people are up to (other than on here ;) ), or what they think, and I certainly don't want to see pictures of their offspring!! The late 30's - early 40's set to which I belong seem to have leapt onto Facebook just as much as the teenagers for some reason ???
If I want to know what my true friends are up to I ring them or e-mail them, if I want to know what my fellow N-gaugers are up to I come on here, everyone else I couldn't give a crap about! :smiley-laughing:
Paul
I avoid facebook - too much snooping and spying and collecting your data for advertisers and who knows what else for me
I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends and family in England and Australia, I find it's a good way of sharing photographs without sending lots of emails.
Quite a few of the manufacturers and preserved railways have news pages so it's good for the latest news.
I've only displayed the minimum of personal information and don't play any of the online games like Farmville.
I think like anything else, it's good if it's used with care.
One thing I don't see the point of is Twitter.
Regards
Veronica.
I do do facebook, and like it because:
- I keep in touch with old friends, colleagues, dodgy relatives, that I wouldn't otherwise be in touch with.
- I've made friends, well facebook friends, with people I've never met. Maybe we can become proper friends one day.
- I don't mind the targeted advertising, and have seen a couple of N-gauge links I wouldn't otherwise have seen.
- I would never have come across this forum were it not for facebook.
I do worry about the privacy thing, but have so far not had any issues (my wife has!).
Can't quite get into twitter, I do have an account but can't even remember my login.
I gave it a try a couple of years ago. I gave it six months to "hook" me, it didn't, so I left.
What did annoy me was the amount of emails I received after I left from faceache, telling me x, y and z were missing me, when I knew x, y and z, who never contacted me before faceache linked us through our email address books, were not missing me one bit.
So the Orwellian faceache is set up to emotionally blackmail people who leave its vile clutches, which reminded me of those religeous cults we used to hear so much about.
As for sharing pictures, I can send one email and with one click of the mouse button, if I wanted it to, it will go to every single person in my address book.
I much prefer to send an individual email and even better pick up the telephone and have a chat.
I did use Skype until Microsoft took it over, then I had nothing but problems with it, so that went as well.
Some may think I am against technology well nothing can be so far from the truth.
I have withdrawal symptoms when I can't get my daily fix in front of my computers, PC, laptop, netbook and Android phone. I also happily admit to being a complete gadget freak.
There are far too many faceache security and privacy issues, which I doubt will ever be addressed, for me to ever go near that site again.
Rant over - :evil: :smiley-laughing:
cheers John.
Years ago my stepdaughter was cyber-bullied through MSN messaging, to the extent we had to get the police involved. Nowadays we have sickos who post messages from someone who has recently died to their parents.
Sorry, but there's enough rubbish coming over the phone, the telly, the mailbox etc for me to want to invite even more of it into my life. You can stick Twitface where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned. >:( :thumbsdown:
Quote from: tadpole on February 18, 2012, 10:42:36 AM
- I keep in touch with old friends, colleagues, dodgy relatives, that I wouldn't otherwise be in touch with.
Obviously everyone is different but this is the part I don't understand with Faceache.
If you wouldn't otherwise make a point of keeping in touch with these people via phone/e-mail/post then why bother at all? ???
Paul
I use Facebook mostly to keep up with model railway stuff, such as Hornby, Miniatur Wunderland and ANE Model. The boss of decoder manufacturer ANE Model is very pretty too. ;D
As I said before, Facebook is nothing special. It's just a collection of lots of forums that don't do as much as ordinary forums. You hear a lot about it because TV and radio people know about it.
Skype is mostly Hype. In all the comparison tests done that I've heard of it usually comes bottom for quality. Other, better, VOIP and video chat applications were around years before Skype. I use ICQ, Yahoo and AOL.
Ask a 'media' journalist what VOIP or IRC are and I expect you'd get a blank look from them.
Don't use either of them.
All my friends are REAL not virtual.
Buddies are a different thing, like the guys and gals on here, as we all share a common interest.
If I wanted to read about someone eating some toast or any other meaningless thing, I'd join.
But I don't. Not saying they don't have their place.
Just not in my life!
Have you ever met anyone from the Internet moogle?
Quote from: Sprintex on February 18, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
If you wouldn't otherwise make a point of keeping in touch with these people via phone/e-mail/post then why bother at all? ???
A fair question.
I have a small core of lifelong chums, none of whom live less than 400 miles from me, but whom I would keep in "proper" touch with come hell or high water. Some of these are also on facebook, and this is a great way of having a communal laugh together, which you can't do by phone.
But I also have also lived and worked in many parts of the country/world, and shared good times with many transient friends/colleagues. We've all moved on to new things, and while we're still friendly, we're not necessarily bosom buddies, and are happy to bump into each other at an airport, or on facebook. We probably wouldn't bother phoning unless we happened to be passing and fancied a beer. Again, facebook is great for nattering to these groups communally, and if others want to join in, so much the better.
I am terrible at phoning/writing, so admit I am guilty of using email as a targeted substitute, and facebook as a less formal, scattergun substitute.
Fair enough :thumbsup:
Hence why I said "everyone is different", personally I only have a few very close friends and that's it, any casual aquaintances that don't become true friends I don't tend to bother with once things move on. Ships that pass in the night ;)
Interesting to know how other people see things though :)
Paul
I'm with you tadpole. It can be useful exactly as you describe. There are a lot of people in life that you get to know and it would be nice to stay in touch, but like you said dont see or phone because life moves on. Facebook is a good easy way to keep in touch with old friends where life would normally mean you'd lose touch. And if it's not much bother then why not bother?
I only ever used facebook for my kids, and they have all turned adult now and grown out of it so i rarely ever use it now.
But i see it as a useful tool that is there if you want to use it. I dont think there's much to find scary or stupid about it as a thing in itself. I'm sure people are stupid with it, like any internet you want to be careful what you say. But it is what you make of it. Most if us dont need it, some enjoy it or find it useful. But many find it easy and useful.
But as far as the original post is concerned, i think tadpole has answered the question about what it is really for.
Have no interest in Facebook, twitter or skype. For me this forum feeds my online needs as aim able to chat and talk about a subject which i am very engrossed in (n gauge)
I am not knocking these social network sites just not for me and the fact that people who I do not know can look at my personal business does not sit well with me.
I think people can be a bit obsessed with it, but I suppose iam obsessed with this hobby, so everyone has their addiction, n gauge is mine.
I have recently got an I phone. This is because in my new job role I do a lot of traveling, this smart phone will help me keep in contact here and is very useful for mobile banking and keeping up to date with football without lugging a laptop around. Comes in darn handy for making phone calls too ;D
Quote from: owl729 on February 19, 2012, 10:44:13 PM
Comes in darn handy for making phone calls too ;D
:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
That's a balanced view there Owl. I would agree from most of the rest of this thread that it's not for everyone. Can't say I'm too bothered what color Brad Pitt's socks are today. ::)
Quote from: poliss on February 18, 2012, 04:28:59 PM
Have you ever met anyone from the Internet moogle?
There's people that
live inside the internet? WOW! I didn't know that. :o ;D
In that case, no.
Quote from: Mustermark on February 20, 2012, 12:05:27 AMCan't say I'm too bothered what color Brad Pitt's socks are today. ::)
Probably Pink... ;D :smiley-laughing:
As to the OP's post:
Quote from: port perran on February 17, 2012, 07:47:51 PM
Just wondering????
Am I the only person in the world who doesn't get Facebook??
I have an account but can never get past Page 1 !!!
I have a few "friends" it seems, but they are people I've never heard of and I really don't want to know that someone has just had a piece of steak for tea !!
I'm sure there must be much,much more to Facebook but I really cannot see it.
Can anyone offer any advice ??
As to your questions:
1) No. You are not alone!
2) If you use it be careful and keep your privacy settings on maximum as tadpole, silly moo, poliss and others have said.
Maybe one of them can help you get past page one?
If you use it better still don't put any information on it you don't absolutely need to provide. What's not there is rather harder to have leaked, stolen, sold to people or otherwise abused.
My view on facebook - Its like a broken pencil - pointless.
I joined Facebook after my grandchildren badgered me to join. I now get regular updates, with photos, of their Friday nights out - usually skimpy outfits and loads of booze on show (their over 21, just, so you get the idea!). ::) However, I have also made contact with a number of ex-pupils from my old schools and work places, who I had lost touch with. The only info on my Facebook page is already in the public domain, somewhere, and in two years I have had no problems.
Quote from: Kipper on February 20, 2012, 01:38:37 PM
I have also made contact with a number of ex-pupils from my old schools . . .
Gawd, there's one good reason not to join from my perspective! ::)
Absolutely HATED school, everything to do with it, and 99.9% of the people I unfortunately came into contact with. Certainly would not want to contact any of them again, and would rather they didn't know what I was up to either ;)
Paul
Well, certainly some of the girls haven't aged too well (a few lucky escapes there), but I don't expect I have either!
Being in a job where data protection and security are very important, let's just say I have serious professional concerns about some of the tricks they get up to...
It's not just the information you actually 'give' them by entering on their pages; they have been caught out a few times 'collecting' other information you enter in other websites. Just as an example if you have BaseFook open in another browser window/tab now, it is quite likely they 'helpfully' have your NGF login/password on file...
Especially watch for 'like this'/'share this' links in other web pages. If the author of that page has not been careful and has used the chunk of code FarceBook provide as is, it will have tried to drop their cookie onto your PC and will be tracking your browsing now... (the links from NGF are 'clean' BTW or I wouldn't be here typing this now...)
Paul
Are privacy settings really private?.....
http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-bypassed-ie-privacy-too-microsoft-339332092.htm?ocid=nl_WIN_21022012_fea_2 (http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-bypassed-ie-privacy-too-microsoft-339332092.htm?ocid=nl_WIN_21022012_fea_2)
Allan
Good to know we are a clean site. :NGaugeForum:
Quote from: Bikeracer on February 21, 2012, 10:11:01 AM
Are privacy settings really private?.....
http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-bypassed-ie-privacy-too-microsoft-339332092.htm?ocid=nl_WIN_21022012_fea_2 (http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-bypassed-ie-privacy-too-microsoft-339332092.htm?ocid=nl_WIN_21022012_fea_2)
Allan
Yes... Google are another very much "on the naughty step" at the moment...
Very strong recomendation is to block
all third party cookies - that is cookies from sites other than the specific one you are viewing, in the browser security settings (easy in in all browsers except Google Chrome which is do-able but more awkward) and set to prompt for first party cookies i.e. the actual site you are browsing, then when prompted think does this site need to store/collect my information? some do such as forums and shopping sites to hold session login status, and for example the BBC site for regional settings for regional news, weather etc but some others are extremely dubious...
Also make sure you have good anti virus, keep it up todate and run the maintenance apps regularly..
:Class414:
Quote from: PLD on February 21, 2012, 01:18:18 PM
Yes... Google are another very much "on the naughty step" at the moment...
Only by some of the more misinformed and clueless media types.
Whose browser was it that got the security wrong and so stored the cookies wrongly ? Not Google's, in fact Chrome and Firefox didn't have a problem.
Quote from: PLD on February 21, 2012, 09:32:02 AM
Being in a job where data protection and security are very important, let's just say I have serious professional concerns about some of the tricks they get up to...
I am shocked at how eager people are to make their private and personal details public...
I was an avid FBer then discovered pictures I thought were only visible to friends were actually being shown in a 123people... Needless to say I deleted everything then deactivated my account...
I read in the Sunday Times that Apple were on the back foot recently as some social media apps (not FB) were caught out harvesting user's contacts details... Not sure how much info was being harvested but I know I store birthdays for some of my phone contacts... Not sure they would be too happy if their details fell in to the wrong hands... Fortunately I don't use any social networks nor do I own an iPhone...
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 21, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
Quote from: PLD on February 21, 2012, 01:18:18 PM
Yes... Google are another very much "on the naughty step" at the moment...
Only by some of the more misinformed and clueless media types.
Whose browser was it that got the security wrong and so stored the cookies wrongly ? Not Google's, in fact Chrome and Firefox didn't have a problem.
No. In this case, suggesting Google are Inocent is like saying the thief who conned his way into your house using false ID is inocent and it was all the fault of the maker of the door
you opened for the thief...
Quote from: PLD on February 21, 2012, 11:22:05 PM
No. In this case, suggesting Google are Inocent is like saying the thief who conned his way into your house using false ID is inocent and it was all the fault of the maker of the door you opened for the thief...
I would suggest you read through the technical analysis. See WebKit bugzilla #35824.
Google did nothing underhand here, bugs in some of the WebKit based browsers meant that the browser wrongly stored various cookies it shouldn't have.
Firefox and properly behaving browsers asked you about the cookie, or if third party cookies were entirely disabled simply chucked it.
Alan
If anyone wants to have a look and like :thumbsup: my N gauge tree page.
http://www.facebook.com/# (http://www.facebook.com/#)!/pages/N-Tastic-Trees/295272767198121?sk=wall
Duncan