Just been on my Facebook page and the amount of N Gauge Facebookers on there posting their loco's, scratch builds and questions is unbelievable. Now while i don't mind FB, the family are on it that's why i go on it, why are these members if they are members not posting on the main site their videos, photos and asking questions, i only ask because there are forum members who don't and won't go on FB for their own personal reasons, but i would of thought that the main forum is the place to put anything onto, then FB. Don't want to alienate members but is this not the place to have the best Forum about N Gauge. While i know being on FB might advertise the forum and N Gauge,(only if your interests are modelling though) is it not better to be on the main site so you can get to hear what is happening with are chosen Gauge. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Are you talking about the NGF Facebook group?
Comes down to personal preference like everything else I suppose? Some people prefer the forum format we have here, others prefer to live on Facebook because that's where they spend most of their time :)
Paul
Not being a Facebooker, what page are you referring to, as looking at the NGF's Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/NGaugeForum/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE (https://www.facebook.com/NGaugeForum/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE) there are very very few posts.
Is there a secret world I've never been to where all is revealed to everyone? :goggleeyes:
Personally, I don't subscribe to the always connected society. One of my friends is a member. I get a text from him and it'll be suffixed with #this and #that. And I think if you can't talk to me without having to talk to the rest of the world at the same time, then :censored: you.
I'm getting old I guess.
Quote from: daffy on February 11, 2017, 11:16:57 AM
Not being a Facebooker, what page are you referring to, as looking at the NGF's Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/NGaugeForum/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE (https://www.facebook.com/NGaugeForum/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE) there are very very few posts.
Is there a secret world I've never been to where all is revealed to everyone? :goggleeyes:
The actual Facebook group (rather than page) is this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/NGaugeForum/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/NGaugeForum/)
It's a closed group so you probably won't see much.
Personally I must prefer the forum format, Facebook is more a constant linear flow of posts and is not structured or easily searchable so there's no build-up of collective wisdom and information like there is in the forum.
I think railsquid has put it quite well.
I'm not a Facebooker and despite several attempts Over the years, I've never been able to make head or tail of it.
The forum works well for me so I'll stick with it. Everyone to their own.
Thanks RS. :thumbsup:
As you suggested I just get a sign in page.
I look at other FB pages (all aircraft related) but just to read and stay in touch with developments, displays etc. I will never sign up though for various reasons, but not least is the openness of the posting I've come across, with the all too frequent postings by .... er...... let's just call them morons. :veryangry:
I like to keep a low profile. :)
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 11, 2017, 10:33:41 AMwhy are these members if they are members not posting on the main site their videos, photos and asking questions
The forum is excellent for text discussion
However, loading of photos is not very easy
Facebook uploading of photos is much easier
Equally, once loaded into a personal account it only takes one button to repeat that same photo on any other Facebook page
However, if you change the settings on the Facebook account and/or page you can prevent people from posting their photos
You can also go to the extreme and prevent replies!
I also recommend prevent tagging, especially on a personal account
Quote from: MJKERR on February 11, 2017, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 11, 2017, 10:33:41 AMwhy are these members if they are members not posting on the main site their videos, photos and asking questions
The forum is excellent for text discussion
However, loading of photos is not very easy
Facebook uploading of photos is much easier
Equally, once loaded into a personal account it only takes one button to repeat that same photo on any other Facebook page
However, if you change the settings on the Facebook account and/or page you can prevent people from posting their photos
You can also go to the extreme and prevent replies!
I also recommend prevent tagging, especially on a personal account
I gave up uploading photos to the forum after the last update - it's easier to share them from another location like Flickr, especially as I might post in multiple locations. However Facebook is too "closed" that I'd want to rely on it exclusively.
Some very valid points made above. I am a Facebooker and use the Group and this Forum. Yes, this forum is the best place to learn from our collective experiences and wisdom. And it is structured and easier to find what you ant to know. Facebook Group may be good for our new bulletins etc.
I fully agree with comments about posting photos. On Facebook adding these to a post or creating albums is simplicity - not much more than copy/paste. Some months ago I posted photos of my creation of some Thompson Corridor coaches on this main forum. It took me an age to find the instructions and then longer to work out what they meant and then actually do it. Which puts me off trying to do it. If only it could be as simple as copy/paste! No doubt there is a reason why it is as it is.
Quote from: RailGooner on February 11, 2017, 11:49:00 AM
Personally, I don't subscribe to the always connected society. One of my friends is a member. I get a text from him and it'll be suffixed with #this and #that. And I think if you can't talk to me without having to talk to the rest of the world at the same time, then :censored: you.
I'm getting old I guess.
Wot that man said!
Facebook does seem to be the way of the world these days, but I find the forum lends itself very well to discussions. Perhaps Facebook is better for photos, as Railsquid says. I must admit that I did try and upload some pictures onto the forum the other week, but gave up in frustration at the complexity of it (Tank, are you reading?) I shall continue to support the forum we have here, since I think we are quite a community, with people even going so far as to help others out, sell/donate stock, and so on. I don't know if facebook has that "glue" that holds us together here.
As someone who has my own N Gauge website (not really competing with this forum format), I have often wondered about the merits of getting the word across on facebook. I do wonder if it will increase the number of visitors to my site. However, the luxury for me is that the site is not commercially driven and I stump up the hosting fees through my love of the hobby and wanting to share everything I know about Poole Graham Farish. Think of it more as a hobby than anything else - it's certainly not a commercial venture and I guess those who are really interested in Poole Farish (quite niche I know) will find it.
Sorry ... a bit of thread creep there. Finally, my issue with sites such as facebook is their "all consuming" nature. I work with many twenty somethings and whilst they are great people, it astounds me how they are mesmorised by their phones and the likes of facebook when we are out and about, to the point where they don't even talk to each other.
Anyway, I'm digressing. UP THE FORUM! :NGaugersRule:
Quote from: DesertHound on February 11, 2017, 02:22:01 PMPerhaps Facebook is better for photos, as Railsquid says.
Not me wot said that, I prefer to upload photos to "3rd party" sites (depending on context usually Flickr or my own server) and share as appropriate.
Quote from: railsquid on February 11, 2017, 02:46:16 PM
Quote from: DesertHound on February 11, 2017, 02:22:01 PMPerhaps Facebook is better for photos, as Railsquid says.
Not me wot said that, I prefer to upload photos to "3rd party" sites (depending on context usually Flickr or my own server) and share as appropriate.
Sorry Guv'nor - 'tis that half a pint I've just had ;D
I've not been on Facebook long so I'm still finding out. However I do agree that it is easier to post photos and videos on Facebook than it is on the main Forum.
So, for me, here for discussion and Facebook for pictures.
The people on the Facebook group can be broken into more of less 3 categories:
1. People who are mostly interested in sharing pictures and in getting feedback on those pictures
2. People who are on both FB and the main forum
3. People who you wouldn't particularly want on the main forum.
That last group is a small set of unpleasant know-it-Alls who are occasionally rude and seldom helpful. The first two groups post some wonderful info and pictures and I find it is a nice way to kill a few minutes and see some trains, without having to look through various threads. It's a bit like flipping through the train mags in the store: not super informative, but you get a quick look at some lovely photos. :) I like the fb page but the main forum is my home :)
Philip
Quote from: N-Gauge-US on February 11, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
The people on the Facebook group can be broken into more of less 3 categories:
1. People who are mostly interested in sharing pictures and in getting feedback on those pictures
2. People who are on both FB and the main forum
3. People who you wouldn't particularly want on the main forum.
That last group is a small set of unpleasant know-it-Alls who are occasionally rude and seldom helpful. ...
:laughabovepost: Nice one Philip ;D
I started on FaceBook to keep in touch with my daughter in London. I've recently joined lots of railway groups both model and preserved. I've got FaceBook set up to suit me, lots and lots of railway content and some contact with family and friends.
FaceBook is like the Internet, it's up to you how you use it.
I wish it was as easy to post photos on the Forum as it is on FB.
1) I don't do farcebook. Oh, I do have an account coz my daughters do. (other family members too). But, I only look on there for pics when they send me links through some other medium.
2) I think I must be doing something 'wrong' coz I don't have a problem posting pics on the forum!!! LOL <--- see that? I'm trying to get into the modern, computerish stuff, LOL again.
3) #couldn't_care_less_if_farcebook_vanished_&_took_TWOOTER_with_it. So there!
I avoid farcebook, I would agree that this forum is the most awkward for posting photos compared to the other 5 forums I use. I'm not saying it's impossible to use just somewhat convoluted, definitely not instinctive. It probably took me a week or so to get used to it, even now if I don't load and images for a few weeks I have to stop and try and remeber how to do it (memory at 82 is not whaqt it was.) The only site I've come across that was worse for adding images was a Yahoo group.
I find Facebook dire these days, having been a member for 10 years. It's just full of complete rubbish now; adverts and suggestions of irrelevant content, plus friends sharing tosh. I'm not a member of any groups, I find forums good for discussion, and other sources good for photos and videos.
Quote from: Herzel on February 11, 2017, 06:15:16 PM
Quote from: silly moo on February 11, 2017, 03:58:51 PM
I started on FaceBook to keep in touch with my daughter in London. I've recently joined lots of railway groups both model and preserved. I've got FaceBook set up to suit me, lots and lots of railway content and some contact with family and friends.
FaceBook is like the Internet, it's up to you how you use it.
I wish it was as easy to post photos on the Forum as it is on FB.
Except it's also how faceache and others use you....as job applicants and employees have learned, not to mention the data harvesting and zuckenberg's weird social experiments.
I was just about to say the same.
I don't like Facebook. I used to have an account but closed it. I felt at risk and that it was just a waste of time. I'll stick with this forum thank you. I enjoy it here.
I've been trying to get off Facebook for weeks now but don't know how to do it!
Quote from: Bealman on February 11, 2017, 09:35:38 PM
I've been trying to get off Facebook for weeks now but don't know how to do it!
If I remember correctly, but don't bank on it, go into your preferences and somewhere there is the option to close the account.
Quote from: Mito on February 11, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: Bealman on February 11, 2017, 09:35:38 PM
I've been trying to get off Facebook for weeks now but don't know how to do it!
If I remember correctly, but don't bank on it, go into your preferences and somewhere there is the option to close the account.
My preference is never to open an account but good luck to those who have.
My OP was about why are the members not posting on the main forum their questions and their photo's and videos, they would of had to join the main forum i think wouldn't they or is it like anyone who has a FB account you can like and join any group once you have been accepted to it. I just feel that there are some really great photo's and videos has well as questions put on there that are not the forum, so many of the members of this brilliant forum don't get to see them.
Has for the members who only see a few posts on the FB page, i for one because i have joined the group get at least fifty to one hundred posts on my FB page, so all of them posts are not been seen here.
And those who think posting photo's is hard on here, yes it is i agree but only until you get used to putting them into your own gallery 1st, then it is a simple matter of posting on the thread you want to. I do agree though that it could be made a lot easier has it is on FB.
Quote from: Mito on February 11, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: Bealman on February 11, 2017, 09:35:38 PM
I've been trying to get off Facebook for weeks now but don't know how to do it!
If I remember correctly, but don't bank on it, go into your preferences and somewhere there is the option to close the account.
Has Mito said Bealman, go to your preferences and you can have the option to close your account or block a group or some body from your own account. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup: :thumbs:
Now i must get on with some work on Roedann Viaduct.
:beers: everyone for your comments, keep them coming if you can.... :) :) :)
I was reluctant to join Facebook mainly because of "scare" stories about various downsides. I was careful to sign-up with a disposable email address, chose my password with caution, and did not click on links to unknown places.
I do not use it as a place to share my private life, and I certainly do not use it as a minute to minute window on my world. On the other hand I have joined a number of rail, model, history and transport groups where the information published enhances my hobbies. I agree that as with everywhere "social" on the internet, probably including here from time to time, I come across people who seem to want to start a fight in an empty room. But you meet all sorts, and the warm, helpful and co-operative members outweigh the keyboard warriors 100 to 1. My intention is not to get in the middle of a fight between keyboard warriors, because despite the presence of eyes and brain it seems that their is often a disconnection between the two.
From time to time I post links to this forum on Facebook Groups especially where an issue needs a bit of help like the Revolution Trains Class B wagon project. Sometimes an obscure topic title on here conceals a wealth of valuable information, and is easily missed, although our moderators do there best to get them in the right section.
Going back to the OP, I think N-Gauge-US summed up succinctly the difference between the NGF and the NGF Facebook Group.
I'm of the older generation, the first Computer I ever saw (In 1970) took up two large rooms in the local Technical College.
I joined Facebook to keep in touch with my children and grandchildren.
I post photos and videos on the NGF forum FB pages because it's so much easier than the tortuous routine on the main forum.
I fully understand why people are reluctant to use FB but I'll not be posting many images here until doing so on here is as slick as doing so on FB.
Out of interest how do you tell who's on the forum and the FB group, unless there's a clear link between forum pseudonym and real name?
Quote from: njee20 on February 12, 2017, 10:27:14 AM
Out of interest how do you tell who's on the forum and the FB group, unless there's a clear link between forum pseudonym and real name?
I am mad enough to allow the same photo on Facebook and the Forum! And I confirm it is me - albeit taken at a nephew's wedding in July 2014. Once seen, try and forget!
When I joined , Tank asked me what name to use so I said I will never be ashamed of anything I might post so use my real name .
Bob
I didn't realise that there was such a problem with members not being able to upload photo's on here. :-\ Surely it can't get much more simpler than clicking 'Reply' and then 'Add image to post and upload to gallery'? ???
What do members want to make it easier? Am I missing something? I don't mean to sound rude. It's always great to receive feedback, and I always want to improve on how the forum works. :thumbsup:
I joined to keep in touch with people then realised everyone had all my details anyway, FB kept trying to dig for info and I didn't like how it worked so I cancelled everything (no loss to anyone -they all have my details). I'd never consider a FB or any other social media account now, leave that to others.
As to the NGF I have asked before where is Graham Farish and Dapol, Hattons or Rails of Sheffield etc etc? Love the forum but it is a LONG way off being off the best n gauge forum.
....Seems to me photo hosting is an issue. And personally I get really miffed when I click on a pic on here and told I don't have permission to view. Being a Photobucket user I don't understand. It is SO easy to post a pic. Forums got too unreliable so as soon as I switched to a hosting site everything got much easier afterwards.
Rich
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/4208-130217000914.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48560)
@Tank (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2) Just want to say I have no problems loading photos directly into a post from my iPad photo library. :no:
It maybe that folks have more trouble uploading many photos at a time into their gallery, and then posting them from there. I'm not sure I get that bit right myself, but I might just be doing it wrong. :confused1: sometimes I get odd problems, but it's never the end of the world.
I know from my family just how easy it is to copy and paste photos into Facebook, but that is another animal altogether than this SimplePortal. Facebook has a bit more money and a hell of a lot greater man power to run it.
Okay so it takes a bit longer here, but are we really in that much of a hurry these days? :hmmm:
But then I'm retired so have all the time in the world! :P
Thank you Tank - as one who on the occasion I tried posting photos, found the experience horrendous and offputing. At that time, the "Add image etc" link did not seem to be there and having crawled over the system it appeared to me the only way was to create a gallery and then proceed from there. I found that very annoying. Then I found the process was slow and unresponsive esp with more than 1 0r 2 pics at once. So I eventually tried again one at a time. Looking at my Gallery now the same photos are in several times - so they had posted without that fact being apparent.
However the link you mention appears to show equivalent to Facebook's options to post a pic to a specific post direct or creating an album. In due course I will try it, but prima facia it seems my issues are resolved. Great.
WOW I just uploaded a picture to a posting on here direct and It's NOT HARD!!!!!!!!!!! I just put a pic on my past post easy peasy (no 3rd party hosting).
...try again just quick now i know how....
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/4208-130217001353.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48561)
....wow, really dont understand what the issue is?????????????
Nice pic, that! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Bealman on February 13, 2017, 12:25:05 AM
Nice pic, that! :thumbsup:
wish it was mine! loL. Another quick test as to how easy to upload (this one is mine). If this works then it blows how perceived it is difficult to upload pics direct, though I personally would use a 3rd party site..
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/4208-130217004510.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48563)
Well it is easy to post photos on the forum.
These are taken from my back garden early sunrise last year.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-130217054136.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48564)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-130217054410.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48565)
So why is it people who go on FB are not posting their photo's and videos on the main site, they have some really brilliant photo's and videos and some of their questions would be answered better and quicker i feel on the main site. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Bealman on February 13, 2017, 12:25:05 AM
Nice pic, that! :thumbsup:
Agree with above. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
So are yours, buddy. :thumbsup:
On my own FB page i have had 50 posts since Friday, here is an example of some post's you may not be getting to see.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154856129137209&set=pcb.1819109188114665&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154856129137209&set=pcb.1819109188114665&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208849355738680&set=pcb.1818386744853576&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208849355738680&set=pcb.1818386744853576&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154092144736114&set=pcb.1819183524773898&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154092144736114&set=pcb.1819183524773898&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=742475385914660&set=pcb.1818665498159034&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=742475385914660&set=pcb.1818665498159034&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1422346354452794&set=pcb.1819070098118574&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1422346354452794&set=pcb.1819070098118574&type=3)
And this brilliant little tip for a weathering station.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154434723063434&set=gm.1818980704794180&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154434723063434&set=gm.1818980704794180&type=3)
There is such a lot to see and read, but would like to see it on the main forum has well. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 13, 2017, 08:01:42 AM
On my own FB page i have had 50 posts since Friday, here is an example of some post's you may not be getting to see.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154856129137209&set=pcb.1819109188114665&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154856129137209&set=pcb.1819109188114665&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208849355738680&set=pcb.1818386744853576&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208849355738680&set=pcb.1818386744853576&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154092144736114&set=pcb.1819183524773898&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154092144736114&set=pcb.1819183524773898&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=742475385914660&set=pcb.1818665498159034&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=742475385914660&set=pcb.1818665498159034&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1422346354452794&set=pcb.1819070098118574&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1422346354452794&set=pcb.1819070098118574&type=3)
And this brilliant little tip for a weathering station.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154434723063434&set=gm.1818980704794180&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154434723063434&set=gm.1818980704794180&type=3)
There is such a lot to see and read, but would like to see it on the main forum has well. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Ha! Is this a cunning plan to get me to join Facebook :hmmm:
If I click on your links Steamie it asks me to log in or join first. :D
Happily I resisted the temptation. :thumbsup:
Glad to see so many are now discovering how easy it is to post photos here. :thumbsup:
Could mark the end of Facebook. :D ;)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/279-130217163316.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48582)
Fingers crossed!
That worked, it seemed to be a lot more complicated last time.
Oh dear. The links look as if they are equivalent to Facebooks posting direct to post or to an album. Hopefully later today I can try it for myself and see if I get any funny messages.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/479-130217182542.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48586)
now is there a picture here?
Yes there was a picture. It is the AEM resin body running on the chinese version chassis of the class 37 (old style)
Quote from: RST on February 12, 2017, 11:33:17 PM
As to the NGF I have asked before where is Graham Farish and Dapol, Hattons or Rails of Sheffield etc etc? Love the forum but it is a LONG way off being off the best n gauge forum.
Ouch!
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/farish.php (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/farish.php)
http://www.dapol.co.uk/ (http://www.dapol.co.uk/)
http://www.hattons.co.uk/ (http://www.hattons.co.uk/)
https://www.railsofsheffield.com/default.aspx (https://www.railsofsheffield.com/default.aspx)
etc etc
I don't understand what the last quote is about :confused2: are there more N gauge forums out there?
Quote from: silly moo on February 13, 2017, 08:12:53 PM
I don't understand what the last quote is about :confused2: are there more N gauge forums out there?
I'm glad you said that. It makes no sense to me either.
Quote from: Tank on February 13, 2017, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: RST on February 12, 2017, 11:33:17 PM
As to the NGF I have asked before where is Graham Farish and Dapol, Hattons or Rails of Sheffield etc etc? Love the forum but it is a LONG way off being off the best n gauge forum.
Ouch!
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/farish.php (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/farish.php)
http://www.dapol.co.uk/ (http://www.dapol.co.uk/)
http://www.hattons.co.uk/ (http://www.hattons.co.uk/)
https://www.railsofsheffield.com/default.aspx (https://www.railsofsheffield.com/default.aspx)
etc etc
Tank,
Don't despair - this forum works for me (and, I'm sure many others) - many thanks!
Best of all it's only N Gauge/2mm.
Regards,
Roy Marshall
I was also perplexed by that comment. There are certainly more active forums (better clearly subjective), but not aware of other n gauge forums.
I wholeheartedly agree with the last two posters. :thumbsup:
Quote from: daffy on February 13, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 13, 2017, 08:01:42 AM
On my own FB page i have had 50 posts since Friday, here is an example of some post's you may not be getting to see.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154856129137209&set=pcb.1819109188114665&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154856129137209&set=pcb.1819109188114665&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208849355738680&set=pcb.1818386744853576&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208849355738680&set=pcb.1818386744853576&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154092144736114&set=pcb.1819183524773898&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154092144736114&set=pcb.1819183524773898&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=742475385914660&set=pcb.1818665498159034&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=742475385914660&set=pcb.1818665498159034&type=3)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1422346354452794&set=pcb.1819070098118574&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1422346354452794&set=pcb.1819070098118574&type=3)
And this brilliant little tip for a weathering station.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154434723063434&set=gm.1818980704794180&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154434723063434&set=gm.1818980704794180&type=3)
There is such a lot to see and read, but would like to see it on the main forum has well. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Ha! Is this a cunning plan to get me to join Facebook :hmmm:
If I click on your links Steamie it asks me to log in or join first. :D
Happily I resisted the temptation. :thumbsup:
Glad to see so many are now discovering how easy it is to post photos here. :thumbsup:
Could mark the end of Facebook. :D ;)
Hi Mike, i wouldn't dream of asking anyone to join FaceBook and my point is that it is just a few of the posts that were on my own FB page, it is a reply to a post that said there is not much posted on FB, but i can assure you that there is.
I just want to know why they are not posting on the main forum so other members who don't want or wish to join FaceBook can see their work, because my layouts are on here and my Grandsons i posted on my own page so my family who live all over Lancashire can see what i made for them.
I personally don't like FB and like i have said in my one of my earlier posts, i only joined to keep up with my family who i don't get to see much.
If i could see my family more there would be no need for me to be on FB. All i am asking why will those who post on FB not post on the main forum. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
This is how easy it is to post a photo.
Add image to post and upload to gallery.
This is the photo of the weathering station tip.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-140217060558.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48608)
All i did was copy the original photo off FB to my photos on my Macbook and then clicked the Add image to post and upload to gallery, were it says at the top,
Add Picture,
Underneath there is a box with Title, put a title in that box, i.e. My Loco or what ever you what,
Then in the Category Box there is a drop down icon, click on that and click on Random Photos,
In the Description Box you can put were it was taken or whatever you want again, or just leave it blank, ( I find putting a little word about it helps to find it)
Upload Picture, click choose a file, and it should open your own photo files, click on the photo you want and then click choose it will go back to the Upload Picture screen,
Then click the Add Picture icon and depending on the size of the photo or video it will then say at the top left hand corner Redirecting to page and there you have it, your photo is uploaded.
It is pretty much the same if not the same has FaceBook to upload a photo.
Here are the rest of the photo's i had in my earlier post.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-140217062604.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48610)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-140217062729.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48611)
Here are some more from my earlier post,
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-140217064050.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48617)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-140217064233.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48618)
This is my Favourite.....
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-140217064406.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48619)
I hope i have tried to make it easier for the members who are finding difficult to load photo's, i was finding it just has hard to do it, but then it just clicked and now i find it easier to post photo's here than on FB.
Happy Modelling. :) :) :) :) :)
Great pictures Steamie, thanks for posting them here. :thumbsup: Great stuff.
I was joshing about the 'cunning plan' BTW and agree completely with you that it would be great to see more pictures posted here instead of on FB. As I have found, and you have demonstrated, it is easy-peasy (as my grand-daughter says) to post them here.
Let's hope more photos follow from all Forum members in future.
I'd like to think that is the intention all along? :hmmm:
Here some more photo's, i am getting fed up really of these members who don't show their photo's on here, there is some really great photo's on FB that we are all missing.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-160217055402.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48703)
This guy did a scratch build of a drilling rig and kit bashed the truck. Not bad is it.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-160217061015.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48704)
And this guy is new to N Gauge and it was his 1st attempt at weathering, boy did he get some stick. admittedly he could of taken the photo with a better background, but he should have put it on here 1st to get a far fairer point of view i feel.
Still i am not going to post anymore photo's on here, it's like banging my head against a brick wall, just going to leave them to it. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 06:16:02 AM
admittedly he could of taken the photo with a better background, but he should have put it on here 1st to get a far fairer point of view i feel.
Why would he have got a fairer view here? He'd get a lot more adulation, because that's what this place does, but is that fairer? I'd say Facebook is a much "fairer" (read: honest) forum to have your work critiqued!
Seems you do have a problem with the forum, so i won't reply anymore. :)
Why? Few would argue that this forum is extremely welcoming. I've never really seen a negative comment here. That's great, it's a nice 'safety net' for people to show their work without fear of being ripped apart. However, That doesn't make it fairer, quite the opposite.
Quote from: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 08:24:07 AM
I've never really seen a negative comment here.
Where have you been? I would say the vast majority of regular posters say it how it is, and some don't hold back at all.
Yes, this forum will give adulation, but where it is due, and in varying degree. In many other cases it will give encouragement and positive criticism, on the lines of "Good first attempt / good effort. Might I recommend, might I suggest......" . Okay, so not those exact words, but the overall intention is usually to help. (We do have the occasional harsh critiques and blunt and/or negative comments, but they are few and far between, and often more than balanced by more objective posters.)
I am not a signed up member of Facebook but I have read enough Facebook pages to know the type of "fairer" comments that get posted there. Yes, some replies are the same as here, advice, constructive criticism etc, but what we don't get here (hopefully) is the blatant rude attack, the troll postings, and the just plain stupid comments that Facebook can supply in abundance.
Not everyone here is a great modeller, engineer or designer - we all have different needs, wants and abilities, and what to one person may seem poor work is to another the best they can do and they are happy with it and proud to show it off here without rude censure.
If that makes this Forum a "safety net" then that makes it a stronger, better place than Facebook will ever be.
Long may it continue that way.
Quote from: daffy on February 16, 2017, 10:04:41 AM
Yes, this forum will give adulation, but where it is due, and in varying degree. In many other cases it will give encouragement and positive criticism, on the lines of "Good first attempt / good effort. Might I recommend, might I suggest......" . Okay, so not those exact words, but the overall intention is usually to help. (We do have the occasional harsh critiques and blunt and/or negative comments, but they are few and far between, and often more than balanced by more objective posters.)
I am not a signed up member of Facebook but I have read enough Facebook pages to know the type of "fairer" comments that get posted there. Yes, some replies are the same as here, advice, constructive criticism etc, but what we don't get here (hopefully) is the blatant rude attack, the troll postings, and the just plain stupid comments that Facebook can supply in abundance.
Not everyone here is a great modeller, engineer or designer - we all have different needs, wants and abilities, and what to one person may seem poor work is to another the best they can do and they are happy with it and proud to show it off here without rude censure.
If that makes this Forum a "safety net" then that makes it a stronger, better place than Facebook will ever be.
Long may it continue that way.
I totally agree with everything said in the above post by daffy, i have nearly finished my roundhouse and i am happy with it in a way, but then again i know it could be better, but i think for a 1st attempt at a real scratch build, (leaving behind the Coal Distribution Plant i have done) it's ok.
So for when i do post a photo of it on here when finished i hope i will get constructive criticism and some tips on how to improve, for which i know i will get and not the rude and offensive stuff that is put on FB, because i for one would leave a forum and go my own merry way. Happy Modelling. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I'm clearly not making my point well, as I don't really dispute any of that, although I don't see much of the constructive criticism, more the encouragement. Again, this is good. I've no idea what the comments were on that weathered 37 via Facebook, but yes, I can imagine a host of "good try" were it posted on here.
Part of why I like it here is that it doesn't feel everyone is a professional modeller. The standard is more 'normal' IMO, RMWeb can be a bit intimidating as there are some utterly stunning models/layouts on there, and sadly a few members who can be dismissive of anything they deem sub-par. Not all, by a long way, but it's definitely an attitude among some.
Funnily enough the Facebook topic on the weathered Class 37 has over 40 comments ranging from "you've ruined a good loco" to the more constructive ones suggesting a gentler touch, using vertical brush strokes, many photos of peoples' own work. Plus a debate about the harshness of the comments. But unlike this forum it is not a document of record and in a week's time it will be a major challenge to find the comments again. I think that the original poster can delete the whole topic if they do not want it to stay on view!
I believe there is a place for Facebook and this forum format, and I do recognise people from here posting on there. But Facebook is more a stream of consciousness geared to skim reading, whereas here you make a positive choice to read a topic, and if the subject heading "Facebook" does not catch your attention you will not even know the discussion has ever taken place.
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 16, 2017, 06:16:02 AM
Here some more photo's, i am getting fed up really of these members who don't show their photo's on here, there is some really great photo's on FB that we are all missing.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-160217055402.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48703)
This guy did a scratch build of a drilling rig and kit bashed the truck. Not bad is it.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/5847-160217061015.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=48704)
And this guy is new to N Gauge and it was his 1st attempt at weathering, boy did he get some stick. admittedly he could of taken the photo with a better background, but he should have put it on here 1st to get a far fairer point of view i feel.
Still i am not going to post anymore photo's on here, it's like banging my head against a brick wall, just going to leave them to it. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
In fairness, the poster of the Class 37, in his header for the post, asked people to be honest about what they thought. He didn't ask for constructive criticism, he just said be honest. Some people were brutally honest.
I don't really see what the issue is - some people prefer to use here and some people prefer to use FB. Not really a big deal!
I gave up trying to post pictures here when the forum gallery software was so rubbish, plus if I want to reuse the same image in different places then it is much easier to upload images to my Flickr account and then let Flickr generate the bbcode for use on here or elsewhere.
As for the 37 weathering on FB - he asked for honest comments and that is what he got. I don't really see anything that OTT in any of the comments, though some are clearly more helpful than others.
Cheers, Mike
Facebook has the fundamantal pragmatic problem that looking up old threads and items is much much more difficult than an organised forum page like this. It's much more 'current' and finding that interesting post from several years ago will leave you tearing your hair out.
Here, it's much easier.
Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Dr Al on February 16, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
Facebook has the fundamantal pragmatic problem that looking up old threads and items is much much more difficult than an organised forum page like this. It's much more 'current' and finding that interesting post from several years ago will leave you tearing your hair out.
I'm not sure it's a problem per se, it's just how it works. It's exactly why I don't use it for discussions though, it's far more transient certainly. More cat videos too.
QuoteIn fairness, the poster of the Class 37, in his header for the post, asked people to be honest about what they thought. He didn't ask for constructive criticism, he just said be honest. Some people were brutally honest.
And if he posted here, I'd have looked at the thread, and not said anything. If he really did want honest :censored: he put it in the right place!
Edit: just noticed that feed back is censored! Does that count as sweat filter avoidance?!
Quote from: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
More cat videos too.
I've checked with my ginger & white cat, Hookey, and it seems he signed up to FB ages ago for that very reason ;D
Quote from: newportnobby on February 16, 2017, 04:08:14 PM
Quote from: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
More cat videos too.
I've checked with my ginger & white cat, Hookey, and it seems he signed up to FB ages ago for that very reason ;D
HaHa very good NPN, thought i saw a post from him yesterday...i didn't really.. it was last Friday. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I gave up trying to post pictures here when the forum gallery software was so rubbish,
I have no problem with uploading photos onto the forum Mike, it's is exactly the same has most other media carriers really, wether it be Flicker, Dropbox, Photobucket or any of the others, they still take what ever time it takes to upload, granted it is the software sometimes and it is also what size of file you may be uploading, it is has i have said earlier, it was a bit of a problem on here, but then it just clicked i was doing something wrong and it is really fast and easy now.
But my point is why don't those Facebookers put photo's on here has well, has i have put their photo's on here and they are brilliant don't you think. I just feel lots of members maybe missing out that's all really, but then come to think about it so are those on Facebook who don't come onto the main Forum, so it's their lose. Happy Modelling :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Steamie+ on February 17, 2017, 05:19:56 AM
But my point is why don't those Facebookers put photo's on here has well, has i have put their photo's on here and they are brilliant don't you think.
Including the weathered 37?! ;)
Maybe because, as I don't want to use Facebook for its transient nature, that's what appeals to them? Maybe they don't want a discussion they just want to post a photo? My wife is an avid Facebook user, but doesn't get forums. They're different, and complementary, but I'm in no way surprised the membership base is different.
Edit: I've just joined, see what the fuss is about. I'm Nick Evans if I ever post anything!
Quote from: newportnobby on February 16, 2017, 04:08:14 PM
Quote from: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
More cat videos too.
I've checked with my ginger & white cat, Hookey, and it seems he signed up to FB ages ago for that very reason ;D
Question is, did he swipe left or swipe right?
Quote from: Carmont on February 17, 2017, 08:18:27 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on February 16, 2017, 04:08:14 PM
Quote from: njee20 on February 16, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
More cat videos too.
I've checked with my ginger & white cat, Hookey, and it seems he signed up to FB ages ago for that very reason ;D
Question is, did he swipe left or swipe right?
Left i think. :laugh: :laugh:
Glad not everyone is taking this thread so serious, i had enough of that on another forum, so i am going to ask the mods to close it please. :thankyousign: :)
Why?! It doesn't need closing.
Steamie+ has asked that this thread be closed, so it is closed.