Hello all.
As last year, the wishlist poll has started on RMweb.
Again a small team of volunteers manages it.
As a non-British guy, it's very interesting to discover all these engines, coaches and wagons. :D
To vote, go here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/page/wishlist_2015.html (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/page/wishlist_2015.html)
There is also a topic on it: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/104272-the-wishlist-poll-2015/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/104272-the-wishlist-poll-2015/)
Enjoy!
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Glad I found this !
I any of you do go over to the dark side that is RM Web and vote, could you please cast a vote for this bit of GWR stock:
GWR Motor Car Vans – Damo & Asmo (Diag.G24/G25 of 1925 & Diags.G26/G32 of 1930)
I have only ever seen one of these at the SDR, and thats in the museum complete with drawings, I'm not sure if there are still any others in existence, so it is probably a rare bit of kit.
I noticed the Class 25/3 is missing as well as the Class 87 and 90.
The poll is well worth doing though because it lets the manufacturers know what we would like.
Cheers
Mark
Also missing is the "can't we just have lower prices" button 8)
I finally had a look on Kernow after being away from modelling for most of a year. Ye gods, I'm keeping my old stuff !
I completed the wish list, but like many I do not have an endless supply of "disposable income" to spend on model trains. I mentioned recently on the high level of buy it now items on ebay. To my mind it's no longer the auction site it once was for N gauge models. I believe people ARE increasingly hanging on to what they have in the face of increasing prices. I was recently bought a Hawksworth coach as a present, and very nice it is too. At one time I would have looked towards buying a good rake of them, but now I will just get a couple more spread over some time. There is no denying the level of detail in recent models seems to increase with each new release, along with their price. We can all potentially fill in a wish list, but whether we can actually afford new models, or as many of them remains to be seen. How far away are we from a super detailed B.R. covered van...that breaks through the £20 rrp? ! I agree with your sentiments EtchedPixels.
I share the sentiment.
I have by any sensible measure a pretty reasonable modelling budget but it doesn't stretch as far as it once did. I am becoming more selective as regards locos justifying far fewer "Rule 1's" than I once did.
As for rolling stock, I have far more than I can ever realistically use so buy only odd items that take my fancy these days. That said, if Bachmann were ever to introduce Thompson coaches a rake of those would be one very notable (and no doubt expensive) exception to my general rule!
Roy
Like others.
I don't have an endless supply of modelling money, but there is plenty out there for me to go after.
One thing that isn't mentioned in the wish list which could possibly have been put on is timings of releases, I appreciate that the manufactures my use the wish list as a guide on what to make my issue been.
They tend to release in groups and with the manner they work producing in batches I have missed out on models which I am after as I can't afford all the ones I want when they are released only a few and then unless they are going to do another run later I have to chance ebay or just do without!
Many of us take up modelling approaching or during retirement. I do wonder if this will to the same level in years to come?
Some people have retired with good pensions, whilst others of course have seen their perceived pensions fall by varying degrees. Younger people are being urged to pay increased amounts into pension schemes from early on in their working lives. Many of the pension schemes that gave people good pensions have disappeared, or are much less generous. I have to wonder if larger manufacturers have factored in that in future years pensions are forecast to be less than today's level...affecting their potential sales volumes.
The price increases in the Farish range have become quite noticeable. I wonder if the increases need to be as large as they are, or whether their accountants have had a hand in the level of increase to compensate for an envisaged loss in future sales volumes? Just a thought...
(sorry if this is moving away from the original posting of wish list 2015, but I sometimes cannot find the tab for a starting a new topic)
Can people consider voting for the industrial diesel and steam 0-4-0 and 0-6-0 options please? Ideal for private sidings in themselves if ever produced, and we need these good chassis variants for those who like to kit build and scratch build 'off-piste'!
The Farish 03/04 chassis is pretty much correct for most of the Rustons. For little 0-4-0 chassis see N drive productions or some of the tiny Japanese ones. There are quite a few options right down to something like a 48DS - although at that point couplings and finding somewhere to put the weight become the big issues.
Alan
You can't have too many options. A decent 0-4-0 chassis (with rods) would be good for N and 009 wouldn't it? The Japanese chassis I have has no rods which limits prototypes, and is a little faster off the mark than is ideal.
With not a lot of days to go can I just put in a plea.
Manufacturers get a view of the relative size of the N and OO demand from the relative number of votes in each scale.
Yes, they have their sales figures as a reliable source, but do suffer a little from a nagging feeling that N-gauge modellers might just be buying their competitors' products rather than their own. We can help reinforce that nagging feeling by voting rather than leaving it to someone else.......
Just a thought.
Les
Asking folk to vote for specific items seems a little misguided to me, if folk really just do vote for stuff because they've been asked to it will artificially inflate the apparent market for that item. If a manufacturer were to produce an item on the strength of these apparent 'expressions of interest' and it flopped I suspect they'd be reticent to continue.
I know it's purely a bit of market research, but still...
Strangely - as far as diesels are concerned - it would probably pay Grafar to ignore the wishlist poll. A later body--style Class 25/3 would probably be a safe bet as an all round seller, and not need a full chassis re-design.
Although certainly too late to have included on the wish-list poll following recent cancellation of the latest batch (so no fault of the compilers here) the "peaks" could do with a re-vamp and be made available DCC ready.
Altogether diesel modellers are better catered for than ever in N. The only main classes not announced now are Class 15, 28 and the 21/29. Hopefully with the latter the kickstarter project will reap some success, and wish all concerned luck with this project.
Regards,
Paul
The Peaks have a problem and have been pulled from production.. Don't know why though.
I also messaged Brian Macdermott about the 25/3 being missing and he has assured me it will be there next year...
Cheers
Mark
I did email about the 25/3 three weeks prior to the poll, but was told it was too late to add on the agenda, and was given the same answer it would appear in 2016. That means it would be another year, plus maybe 2 years for Farish to release the loco. I am hoping that Farish have the business sense to realise that items such as a 24/1 (albeit of some interest personally) are not of such significance as the later body-style 25 to modellers.
Regards,
Paul
I have cast my "votes". Incl Stanier 262T, once a resident at Dumfries. My regular vote for a K2 (if the Scottish version ), not to mention the odd Caley item, Jones Goods, a 77XXX std and a Clan , C15 to recreate the Ardlui push/pull etc. And some Pd 1 and 2 LMS corridor coaches, and a 12 wheel restaurant. Not expecting any of that in the near future, far too specific, so I will continue to kit bash and adapt RTR as I always have done etc. For example, the NGS journal has shown us options for the Dapol M7.
I did of course find plenty of LNER items I would like including-
Thompson A2/3 and rebuilt P2 the A2/2
Raven B16
Gresley K2, K3, K4 and D49
Peppercorn K1
BR Sulzer 25/0
77xxx 3MT and Clan
odd ex- LNER coach types
20T coke hopper and Consett Iron Ore wagon.
Shame there was no NER Atlantic on the list..
Les
All of the above would find employment on Hawthorn Dene, Rise Park or Croft Spa when ready.....
The results have just been announced and are available as PDFs.
2015 Most Wanted - N.pdf (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=648751)
2015 Results By Category - N.pdf (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=648752)
2015 Results Top-to-Bottom - N.pdf (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=648753)
Looking at the results, it is interesting that there is a lot of results quite close together at the top of the leader board. This probably reflects the diverse interests of modellers as there are no items that stand-out as being head-and-shoulders above the rest.
Several top items have been done fairly recently in 00. This suggests an element of tactical voting at play with people choosing to vote for items they feel have a more realistic chance of being produced.
The number of voters has climbed steadily year-on-year with more than at 10% increase over last year.
Part of the frustrating thing (from my perspective) looking at the results is just how much of the things that people want are already available as kits (particularly the post-steam era)!
I accept (reluctantly!) that some people don't want to build kits but it feels like such a wasted opportunity both for the kit producer and the modeller.
Cheers, Mike
Hi,
I am just a bit baffled by the structure of this poll - if you look a little closer at the diesel results all is not as it seems.
With diesel loco's the Class 40 was announced early last year, but was still in the poll...
Metrovick Co-Bo's had 2 different versions in the poll (a minor difference concerning the type of windows), yet Class 21 and 29 were grouped together.
If you added the Co-Bo votes they would come out as a strong contender - although I guess that there was nothing to stop people voting for both versions? So all the figures are quite difficult to decipher and make some meaningfulness out of...
Cheers
Paul
On the positive side it has given me some interesting ideas! :D
Pressed Steel suburban DMUs feature well......
I see the class 117/118 DMU was highly placed. Hopefully that will encourage Bachmann to release the class 117 in the Graham Farish range.
As per the comment by Mike (red_death) about kits; as my confidence grows I'm going to try and build more kits. I've got a Class 128 DPU (polled quite high in the DMU category) on the go. Next year I'll have a go at some Collett Restaurant cars (top of the GWR coach poll). If it all goes pear-shaped with the DPU I might not do the coaches.
I suppose I could have a go at a Class 117 kit too?
There will be a few surprises I'm sure for all of us, both pleasing and otherwise.
I have long felt that T.P.O. stock would be popular items to accompany the very nice Mk1 sorting vans from Farish. Pre-B.R. TPO stock would also prove fairly popular I'm sure.
I think I may have suggested TPO stock as a possible NGS project a couple of years back...but then we will all have our very own ideas of what we would like to see produced.
Nice to see the class 92 at the top of the list for N Gauge diesel and electric loco's and second in the overall list!!!!! Come on Revolution.
My 200 votes must have made a difference :D
Also a retooled 158 plus a 185 Desiro are up there with the leaders.
John P
Interesting there's almost no interest in small industrial steam locos. Seems I'll have to keep resurecting decades old antiques for a bit longer!
Mike
Quote from: maridunian on November 27, 2015, 05:19:51 PM
Interesting there's almost no interest in small industrial steam locos. Seems I'll have to keep resurecting decades old antiques for a bit longer!
Mike
I don't know. The top two industrials outpolled such locos as the WD 2-10-0 and the 4P Compound.
On another front, could the higher poll for diesels than a lot of steam be a result in part of fewer classes available to vote for?
Les
I can't help but think the results may have been skewed a bit by the omission of the class 25/3, 87 and 90. Along with the inclusion of the class 40 which has been announced but we are missing the split headcode box version which Farish may or may not produce.
Cheers
Mark
Quote from: Karhedron on November 27, 2015, 11:26:25 AM
The results have just been announced and are available as PDFs.
2015 Most Wanted - N.pdf (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=648751)
2015 Results By Category - N.pdf (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=648752)
2015 Results Top-to-Bottom - N.pdf (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=648753)
None of the links work for me. They all come up as "502 Bad Gateway".
RMweb seems to have been offline for the past couple of hours. The links should work when the whole site is back up and running.
Yeah... Anonymous took them down after an American modeller proposed moving the OO section into the narrow gauge section...
Cheers, NeMo
Quote from: Kris on November 28, 2015, 02:20:18 PM
RMweb seems to have been offline for the past couple of hours. The links should work when the whole site is back up and running.
Top 5 steam locos, I voted for four.of them, :D now if one could be made please be king Arthur
Quote from: leachsprite4 on November 28, 2015, 03:30:50 PM
Top 5 steam locos, I voted for four.of them, :D now if one could be made please be king Arthur
And please don't let Dapol make it if the gestation time of their other Southern offering (http://dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=179_298_300_494%20URL) is anything to go by.
The west Country has taken longer to get to tooling than the schools to production!
That said I'd prefer no one to make a king Arthur until the west Countries and castles are out
Still holding out for a 92. Seems others are too!
Quote from: red_death on November 27, 2015, 12:49:07 PM
Part of the frustrating thing (from my perspective) looking at the results is just how much of the things that people want are already available as kits (particularly the post-steam era)!
I accept (reluctantly!) that some people don't want to build kits but it feels like such a wasted opportunity both for the kit producer and the modeller.
Cheers, Mike
I have "two left hands". Each time I've tried to do a kit, the result was really disappointing. So definitely, RTR models are welcome.
Furthermore, my feeling is that these kits that are then produced as RTR by a "big" manufacturer are very useful for two reasons: for those who have "two right hands" and thus do not have to wait for an RTR model, and for people like me because the success of these kits may help in triggering their launch as RTR model.
By the way, I note that, as usual, I have voted for items which are not the "most wanted".
• class 128 60 votes
• class 71 57 votes
• Cement lorry for use with Presflo wagons 51 votes
• 1938 stock 40 votes
• class 110 38 votes
• Night Ferry stock 32 votes (the one I want most) :'(
• class 07 30 votes
• Derby Lightweight single unit 27 votes
(but I would be happy with a Derby Lightweight 2-car which gathers 61 votes)
The same with politics, at each national election, I vote for the looser...