A news update of the forthcoming model:
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=139&vis=2 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=139&vis=2)
:thumbsup:
That new Farish 31 looks cracking. There certainly is a lot to look forward to in the coming years.
Cab interiors? :goggleeyes:
Looks good, wonder if there's any chance of a Railfreight red-stripe version before the end of the decade? ::)
Paul
Hopefully there will be a skinhead version not too long after this one hits the light of day.
Quote from: AndyGif on November 06, 2013, 06:31:57 AM
Hopefully there will be a skinhead version not too long after this one hits the light of day.
Pass ???
Thanks, Owl! What an awesome model! Flywheels? Double awesome!!
I am assuming the skinhead version is that horrid BR BLUE? :sick: : ;D
Quote from: Bealman on November 06, 2013, 08:59:43 AM
I am assuming the skinhead version is that horrid BR BLUE? :sick: : ;D
no its the one in the white fred perry t shirt, skinny blue jeans with braces and 20 hole black doc martens rather than wheels.
Eh?? ???
Paul
??? Me too... all I can think of is that white thing that was around about then...
As a relatively infamous Australian politician once said: "Please explain?"
???
class 31/0 aka a skinhead/toffee apple
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7617875190_fee6d9e181_o.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8149/7617875190_fee6d9e181_o.jpg)
a skinhead
http://www.eine-zeitung.net/Skinheads.jpg (http://www.eine-zeitung.net/Skinheads.jpg)
are you lot that young, you don't know this.....
Nope, still can't see the connection? ???
Not much of a helpful explanation either ...
Paul
(44 years old whatever age has to do with it?)
http://ukrailwayfaq.wikispaces.com/Rolling+Stock+Nicknames (http://ukrailwayfaq.wikispaces.com/Rolling+Stock+Nicknames)
thats it, if you cant see, then you just cant....
the two pic's are both skinheads, see my description of the livery after bealman insulted the BR Blue one.
not repsonding to any more on this thread.
Never heard a 31 called that before :no:
In fact, never heard of half of them on that site. Problem with a lot of loco nicknames is they can be very localised, meaning anyone from a different area has no idea what you're talking about ;)
Paul
I was not out to insult anyone - I genuinely had no idea what was being discussed here. Now that the photos and explanations have been posted, I can see a vague connection. But, as the above post by Sprintex points out, nicknames are very localised. I doubt very much that UK forum members would be very aware of nicknames given to NSW locomotives.
And as to insulting the BR blue livery, folk can call the BR green livery mucus green, for all I care. I like it. I didn't like the BR blue livery when it was applied when I was a teenager in high school in the UK at the time, and never will like it. However, it was a major part of BR history and I love seeing quality N gauge layouts portraying it - of which we have many excellent examples on this forum.
I now know what a 'skinhead' is. Thank you, AG for the information.
That does look to be a nice model.
Although I am familiar with the term 'Skinhead' when applied to the class 31, in all my years of trainspotting in the mid 60's (which included many visits to Finsbury Park/Stratford so many of these Type 2's were duly copped) I never actually heard the term mentioned at that time. Maybe someone can enlighten me as to when it came about :confused2:
Hi
:sorrysign: Just to put a spanner in the works,their original nick name was Toffee Apples,I think they got that nick name when one was painted orange ochre with a white waist band stripe.
I think the orange ochre looked like the toffee on the apple and the white the wooden stick
Now off to hide
:Class31: Mike
power control lever
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I have pre ordered one from hattons
I hope they bring out dutch and rf livery versions soon
I think they also get called 'peds'???
Tim
The nickname generally used for class 31's was 'Goyle'. There are some differences within the class and the original 31's (30's) before that I believe were called 'toffee apples'. This had noting to do with the livery but the power controller itself. The picture above is the more widely used power controller used on about 98% of the class and manufactured by Brush. The class 31/0 had a different setup which had a power controller very much like a 'toffee apple' which was removable. The nickname 'skinhead' was for the few class 31's that had no headcode box above the cab. Just a rounded roof and unless modified had front end discs too.
Jamie
Bluedepot, you are right, they are known as 'peds' too. Not sure where that came from.
If you can see this this is a 'toffee apple' setup
www.flickr.com/photos/25459770@N03/5162185868 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25459770@N03/5162185868#)
Hope this link works.
Jamie
Quote from: 47033 on November 06, 2013, 02:02:48 PM
Bluedepot, you are right, they are known as 'peds' too. Not sure where that came from.
Hi
I believe it is an abbreviation of Pedestrian and I can only think they got that name as they were slow.
Cheers
Paul
They look awesome! And after I just went and bought a previous tooling version of eBay! :doh:
Quote from: 47033 on November 06, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
The nickname generally used for class 31's was 'Goyle'. There are some differences within the class and the original 31's (30's) before that I believe were called 'toffee apples'. This had noting to do with the livery but the power controller itself. The picture above is the more widely used power controller used on about 98% of the class and manufactured by Brush. The class 31/0 had a different setup which had a power controller very much like a 'toffee apple' which was removable. The nickname 'skinhead' was for the few class 31's that had no headcode box above the cab. Just a rounded roof and unless modified had front end discs too.
Jamie
Well 'Thank Fudge' for clearing that one up!
I really did not know why the 31 was called different nick-names but now I do.........
Cheers :thumbsup:
ped came from "pedlo" and was normally applied to the 31/4's because of their far from excellent power output. They were heavy and underpowered to begin with but the 31/4's had a chunk of that output permanently lost to the ETH system.
I thought they were called Brian's, but have heard the skin head term before.
Quote from: bluedepot on November 06, 2013, 01:54:45 PM
I have pre ordered one from hattons
I hope they bring out dutch and rf livery versions soon
I think they also get called 'peds'???
Tim
If they do they will be incorrect as the loco is an un-refurbished version with buffer cowlings and bodyside waistband, both of which were removed when they went through Doncaster for overhaul.
The previous Farish version is the re-furbed model that would suit these two liveries.
Scott
Hi
I have just ordered from Hattons the BR Green version,as that is the era I model
Mike