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Title: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 15, 2013, 09:09:14 PM
Hi all  :wave:

I am looking to up-grade my airbrush for one that can do finer work and I am not sure what to go for  :hmmm:

I currently have a Iwata Neo airbrush which is a great airbrush but not great for doing really fine work

I have looked at the following Airbrush but I'm not sure

http://www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com/evsitwoinone1.html (http://www.chicagoairbrushsupply.com/evsitwoinone1.html)

Has anyone seen or used one of these and if so how do you find it  :hmmm:

There are reviews on the web but I was just wondering if anyone out there had one

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: scotsoft on August 15, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Would it not do finer work if you changed the needle inside it?

cheers John.
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 15, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
Hi John  :wave:

Not sure if you can get a finer needle set for the Neo  :hmmm:

To be honest it hadn't crossed my mind  :doh:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: scotsoft on August 15, 2013, 09:20:59 PM
Quote from: davieb on August 15, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
Hi John  :wave:

Not sure if you can get a finer needle set for the Neo  :hmmm:

To be honest it hadn't crossed my mind  :doh:

dave  :thumbsup:

Worthwhile looking into as it will be a lot cheaper  :D

Scottish genetics coming into play again  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 15, 2013, 09:25:44 PM
Just Had a look on-line and the only other Needle/nozzle available is larger 0.5mm instead of 0.35mm  :doh:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: oscar on August 15, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
?Won't a larger needle give a finer spray? ???
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 15, 2013, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: oscar on August 15, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
?Won't a larger needle give a finer spray? ???

As far as I'm aware the smaller the nozzle the finer the spray pattern
That's why I would like one with a 0.2mm nozzle

found a better link to the type I'm looking at

http://www.air-craft.net/acatalog/Harder-Steenbeck-Silverline-2-in-1-Airbrush-1.html (http://www.air-craft.net/acatalog/Harder-Steenbeck-Silverline-2-in-1-Airbrush-1.html)

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: upnick on August 15, 2013, 10:09:35 PM
Not sure if this link  offers a better deal  Dave ? 

http://www.everythingairbrush.com/acatalog/Evolution_Silverline.html (http://www.everythingairbrush.com/acatalog/Evolution_Silverline.html)
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 15, 2013, 10:17:34 PM
I think this and the link above are about the same  :hmmm:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: Pengi on August 15, 2013, 10:30:35 PM
I did quite a bit of airbrush research for upgrading from the Chinese brush and the H&S brushes get excellent reviews :thumbsup: It seems that H&S and Iwata are pretty safe bets and it all comes down personal preference as to how the airbrush handles. The only reason I didn't go for the H&S was that I spotted an Eclipse at a bargain price on eBay and ended up upgrading sooner than I thought.

Everything airbrush sells H&S and Iwata - maybe it is worth contacting them to see if a 2mm needle will work on the Neo and which of the airbrushes they would think was a good upgrade for you
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: upnick on August 15, 2013, 10:38:41 PM
Quote from: Pengi on August 15, 2013, 10:30:35 PM

Everything airbrush sells H&S and Iwata - maybe it is worth contacting them to see if a 2mm needle will work on the Neo and which of the airbrushes they would think was a good upgrade for you

Sounds a good idea Jane worth  the phonecall  at least  probably find out more with a call  than hours of reading thats what i find  with modelling,  i bought a   compressor from them a  few years ago after a call   best thing i've bought in a while for the workbench.
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 15, 2013, 10:43:22 PM
Hi Pengi  :wave:

I think I may contact Everything Airbrush and see what they have to say  :hmmm:

The only thing about the H&S Airbrush is that there is no local stockist where I could go and see one and get to handle one
to see how it feels in my hand  :doh:

I would really like the Iwata HP-SB Plus but I can't justify spending £200+ on an airbrush........... That's 2 new locos  ;)

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 16, 2013, 08:22:46 PM
Hi all  :wave:

Well I spoke to Everything Airbrush today and they confirmed that there is no smaller nozzle/needle set for the neo  :doh:

They also told me that the H&S airbrush is indeed a very good airbrush and nice to use  :thumbsup:

But I would still like to see how one feels in my hand  :-\

But due to the fact there are no stockists close to me I have to make a decision
Do I just go for it and order one or wait a while and try to get my Mitts on one  :confused2:

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: red_death on August 16, 2013, 09:29:10 PM
Given that the Iwatas have a great reputation for modelling are you sure it won't work for you? Perhaps it is a case of more practice or different paint/pressure.

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 16, 2013, 09:43:43 PM
Hi Mike  :wave:

Maybe it could be down to me not having the correct paint or pressure  :doh:

But I do have a Cheap Chinese airbrush that has a 0.2mm nozzle/needle and I can get much finer detail with that  :uneasy:
But the downside is that it is heavy ( due to it having a large paint cup) and it's a complete PITA to clean  :unimpressed:

Oh..........and I have managed to strip the thread on 2 nozzles  :doh:  :-[

So this is the reason for getting a better airbrush  :-\
And you can never have too many tools  ;)

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: Pengi on August 16, 2013, 10:01:27 PM
Couple of vids that may be useful

Harder & Steenbeck Airbrush line review. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2cor7woA3U#ws)

Airbrush for Beginners - Learn Along with Mel 18 - Iwata Side feed Airbrushes & Cheap Plastic Cups. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UliSlSp_Y50#ws)
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 16, 2013, 10:03:51 PM
Thanks for those links Pengi  :thumbsup:

Will watch them tomorrow evening after work

dave  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: Pengi on August 21, 2013, 04:04:06 PM
Would it be worth investigating a crown cap for the Neo as per Joker's post (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=15028.msg157868#msg157868)?

They are £5.99 for the Neo (and £15.99 for the Eclipse  :ouch:)
Title: Re: Follow on Airbrush
Post by: davieb on August 21, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: Pengi on August 21, 2013, 04:04:06 PM
Would it be worth investigating a crown cap for the Neo as per Joker's post (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=15028.msg157868#msg157868)?

They are £5.99 for the Neo (and £15.99 for the Eclipse  :ouch:)

Been thinking about that all day  :hmmm:

May have to give one a try  ::)

dave  :thumbsup: