less than 48 hours to go???????
tim
:NGaugeForum:
I'm under the impression that Sunday 10th March is D day. It's also Mothering Sunday. :D
H.
Quote from: H on March 06, 2013, 06:49:50 PM
I'm under the impression that Sunday 10th March is D day. It's also Mothering Sunday. :D
H.
Anyone else thinking of getting their Mother in Law the catalogue for a pressie :smackedface: Oh well worth a try :) or :no:
Quote from: MinZaPint on March 07, 2013, 11:23:38 AMAnyone else thinking of getting their Mother in Law the catalogue for a pressie :smackedface: Oh well worth a try :) or :no:
She can buy her own copy, the cantankerous old **** :P
Mystic Mike's poor predictions:
More Mk2s (outside chance of air con Mk 2s)
New 25?
2EPB
MPV
Outside chance:
Class 85
I will no doubt be proved completely wrong :smiley-laughing:
Cheers, Mike
85 would be a total bonus but AC's don't historically fly off the shelves.
Would be a multiple purchase for me is anyone from Bachmann marketing is watching the forum!!
(Well i do have 6 x Dapol 86's, 5x 87's , 5 x90's, 2 x91's and 1x 89 and 92 and my own class 81!)
DCC ready class 170/5 with lights and more detail
Quote from: swisstony on March 07, 2013, 07:56:22 PM
DCC ready class 170/5 with lights and more detail
I agree with that.
Others that would be good with lights are the SWT and Southern Turbostars and the SWT Class 159.
Would like a SWT 444 but will settle for a SWT 450.
Quote from: swisstony on March 07, 2013, 07:56:22 PM
DCC ready class 170/5 with lights and more detail
Now that would be nice........ :thumbsup:
A shrink rayed Class 40 and updated Class 25 please (lights etc)
I know they have already announced their CCT but I am waiting for this rather than purchase the salmon pink Dapol thing
Quote from: newportnobby on March 07, 2013, 08:41:30 PM
purchase the salmon pink Dapol thing
To go with your Salmon Pink Ballast Nobby :hmmm:? ;D ;D ;D
My wish list would be something along the lines of:
Cravens class 105 dmu
APT
Blue 08 shunter
Mk2 air con coaches
Bachmann having the courage to release a sound fitted range.
The last one might be a long shot but seeing as we have a new deltic and class 31 on the way it would be nice if they tried to do sound.
If some of the other manufacturers produce sound fitted European and American outline stuff,surely it can't be far off for us British outline modellers.
Still,it would render us who do quite enjoy the challenge of fitting sound on board,relatively redundant.
Only my opinion I guess.
Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Quote from: Pete Mc on March 07, 2013, 10:18:24 PM
My wish list would be something along the lines of:
Cravens class 105 DMU
Yes Please,and surely a new tooled 25 is on the cards this time.......surely!! :NGaugersRule:
I too would like to see an updated class 25 - to the same standard as the 24. Also some BR blue non corridor coaches - to go with the 31?
Hi Gang,
An excellent shout for a light fitted retool for the 158/159/170 family. I feel that this would do Bachmann's credibility a fantastic boost and open up a plethora of sales for them if they were to furnish us with multiple liveries as they have already done with the DMUs.
I would also love to see the 85 reduced to N but can see the dilemma facing Bachmann on this one...perhaps a train pack with Mk2 non aircon coaches might help sales!!!
A retooled 25 would update my ETHEL fleet (if the correct body profile)
A modern re-railing crane to complement the Network Rail coaches.
My main wish,however, is for a mainstream LL blue unnamed 47 with head code boxes.
I guess we will find out on Sunday....
Later,
Stu in OAKN.
Exotic location Stu - stay safe!
It would be great if the 158/159/170s were upgraded, but I'm not confident they will be, though I am amazed that some of the new 60s have suddenly started coming with DCC sockets so they clearly will do incremental upgrades if it suits.
Have they announced a new 40 yet? If not then that might be a possibility.
Cheers, Mike
Quote from: busman on March 08, 2013, 07:36:04 AM
I too would like to see an updated class 25 - to the same standard as the 24. Also some BR blue non corridor coaches - to go with the 31?
If you are not too fussy then you could vinyl the Farish ones. For the class 31 and blue suburban GN route through Kings Cross standard suburban sets could be used so the model wouldn't be wrong. For the Midland link you'd want Metrogauge coaches which would require the roof vents moving.
I am surprised they didn't do the suburbans in blue (very weathered blue :D ), but I guess its a very narrow time period and fairly limited location.
Alan
Am I the only one hankering for some steamers and appropriate coaching stock, Bachmann have some lovely OO stuff that they could downsize without duplicating others, SR & GWR for me, have heard a rumour about an N15
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb474/minzapint/N15_zps77e6796c.jpg)
That'll do for starters :thumbsup:
My wish list...
Updated - Class 25 and either the 4F or 8F.
New - Standard Class 4 4-6-0, Class 105, any ex-LMS 2-6-2T or 2-6-4T.
how do I get the catalogue on sunday then??? go to model zone???? will the launch be covered live on sky news????
What do I want to see, feel is fairly likely, and would definitely buy?
The shrunk versions of the Class 85 in BR Blue with TOPS code. Likewise with the Class 25/2, and the split-box nose Class 45. Also, the Windhoff MPV in Network Rail livery. Possibly, also, the Class 105 and the IPA car transporter? I don't like to see weathering supplied as standard on locos, as I prefer the factory finish, with the option to weather later.
What would I like to see, and would also definitely buy, but don't expect?
The 150/1 (re?)introduced in the provincial/RR/factory livery of the 1980s. The 150/2 in Northern Rail and Merseyrail liveries. The Class 87 in BR Blue and Executive liveries. Class 03 162 with the thin-cone chimney and air tanks in either BR Blue or the 1980s green version, and 40122/D200 in the 1980s BR Green livery with the full yellow nose. The Class 90 in Executive livery, as there were a few about, early on. The Railfreight-liveried HEAs reintroduced.
...And for Scenecraft?
All of the listed stuff shrunk from the other gauge and loads more of the modern Scenecraft cars, if Bachmann could get the licensing.
:thumbsup:
Outlandish wishful thinking...
The Pendolino (supplied piece by piece, as with the HST, as it's more affordable that way), Class 81, RTR PEP-derived EMUs, RTR 304, 305 or 308 EMUs and RTR 303 and 310 EMUs. Second-generation railbuses, other than what is already available, and the John Summers PHO iron ore hopper wagons.
;)
Also, the weathered BP TEA tankers seem to have done a runner from the model shop shelves. Who's been buying them all?
:hmmm:
I look forward to new releases much the same as everyone else, i just hope that they do some new liveries of existing models such as the class 47's, 60's, 08's, 66's, 37's etc...
I would love them to shrink ray the NR liveried Class 57 that they have in OO at the moment.
A pendolino would be nice..........
Having only just got back into the hobby I'm still excited about the current offerings, let alone the next. I suspect mrs stevieboy will not be amused, unless there are more Era 3 plank wagons for her to collect.
It'd be nice if they did some more EWS loco's but as I have not been a follower of products for the last 20 years or so I may have 'had my lot' as it were.
On the steamer side of things, having looked at the Bachmann 00 loco's in the shops I'd like to see anything of the A4 variety but as I have been sadly told, and read on here, this is doubtful :(
Quote from: bluedepot on March 08, 2013, 12:14:14 PM
how do I get the catalogue on sunday then??? go to model zone???? will the launch be covered live on sky news????
Just spoke to my local model shop, he seems to think they should be on the shelves around this time next week apparently?
I might give Sky News a ring and give them a heads up so they get the news scoop ;D
'and from our home affairs correspondant, we have just heard that Farish WILL be producing a Pendolino, although when remains un-clear at this time..... Now over to the studio for analysis into the re-liveries that Farish have committed to and Dapol Dave's reaction to this all'
Quote from: stevieboy on March 08, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
It'd be nice if they did some more EWS loco's but as I have not been a follower of products for the last 20 years or so I may have 'had my lot' as it were.
There have been at least EWS liveried relatively recently: 08s, 33, 37s, 47, 56, 58, 60, 67s, 73, 86
Quote from: stevieboy on March 08, 2013, 02:28:27 PMOn the steamer side of things, having looked at the Bachmann 00 loco's in the shops I'd like to see anything of the A4 variety but as I have been sadly told, and read on here, this is doubtful :(
Dapol have just done a new A4 in 2mm so I'd be amazed if Farish risked competing, but strnager things have happened.
Thanks, I better get scouring the web for EWS loco's.
I would like....
Class 25s x2
Class 31s x2 (in blue and rf)
Class 45 in normal blue livery and dcc ready!
Class 08 in blue (they are sold out everywhere!)
HEAs in rf x5 (I have 11 in grey already they can run with)
HAAs in rf (I only have a few minitrix ones and want a rake of 20)
think that's it really!!! some other livery 47s maybe....
Tim
Quote from: red_death on March 08, 2013, 02:39:13 PM
There have been at least EWS liveried relatively recently: 08s, 33, 37s, 47, 56, 58, 60, 67s, 73, 86
The 31 one was also released in EWS some time ago (very late Poole release), so I think pretty much everything EWS has been done except the 59, which presumably Dapol will eventually cover when the 59 is released.
Alan
Quote from: MinZaPint on March 08, 2013, 11:27:00 AM
Am I the only one hankering for some steamers and appropriate coaching stock, Bachmann have some lovely OO stuff that they could downsize without duplicating others, SR & GWR for me, have heard a rumour about an N15
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb474/minzapint/N15_zps77e6796c.jpg)
That'll do for starters :thumbsup:
Yes please!
Dave G
Well if the Craven 105 (in green) and the Clan turn out to be on the list, I will be bidding farewell to a bit more of my bank balance. I am happy with my kit LMS 264Ts (all 3 main types) but maybe I could be tempted . A Stanier 262T - well at least one was a performer in SW Scotland at one point. But I suspect that might be too specialised.
What I think will be likely new products:
4MT 4-6-0, 450 EMU, Class 105
What I think will be re-tooled:
4f, 25, 8f, 40 maybe?
What I would like to see:
Stanier Mogul, City of Truro, SDJR 7f, G2A, Ivatt 4mt.......
There are a load of re-liveries i'd love to see such as a something in DRS! More runs of the Black 5's and a Crimson/Cream RMB (vital for a modern preserved layout :P )
Ollie
Before we all get too excited, just think where we are with the models anounced last March...
Locos
LNER A2: no news.
Class 70: EP development model seen - possible TINGs release.
Class 37/4: ??
SR Mechant Navy: rumored to have been shelved.
LMS Princess Coronation: no known progress.
BR 80xxx 4MT 2-6-4T: a prototype believed to have been scanned but no other sign.
Class 55 Deltic: EP development model seen - probable Warley release.
GWR 57xx Pannier: Abandoned due to Dapol Model
Score: 2 known close to release, 1 thought to be in early stages of development, 1 (possibly 2) abandoned, 3 no news
Rolling Stock
Bulleid coaches: - no news
Mark 2A coaches: - no news
Mark 1 FK: - YES!!! (but I believe not the full range of liveries yet??)
Mark 1 Horsebox: believed in progress, dealers suggesting mid 2013 release
BR CCT 4 wheel van: believed in progress, but no indication of release date
24T iron ore hopper: believed in progress, dealers suggesting mid 2013 release
Polybulk hopper: no known progress.
Score: 1 Released, 2 believed close to release, 1 thought to be in early stages of development, 3 no news
Overall not great progress which means anything anounced this week is unlikey to be in the shops this side of Christmas 2014!!
Thanks for the update PLD, as you say a pretty poor performance :thumbsdown:. Makes me think the guys at GF must be politicians, all talk and no do (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-talk040.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php), wonder if we sent your note to GF if they'd have the decency to respond? We all know that in the real world not everything can be done but it would be nice if say on a quarterly basis they could give us an update, we are after all their customers!
Quote from: PLD on March 08, 2013, 09:03:51 PM
Before we all get too excited, just think where we are with the models anounced last March...
Locos
LNER A2: no news.
Class 70: EP development model seen - possible TINGs release.
Class 37/4: ??
SR Mechant Navy: rumored to have been shelved.
LMS Princess Coronation: no known progress.
BR 80xxx 4MT 2-6-4T: a prototype believed to have been scanned but no other sign.
Class 55 Deltic: EP development model seen - probable Warley release.
GWR 57xx Pannier: Abandoned due to Dapol Model
Score: 2 known close to release, 1 thought to be in early stages of development, 1 (possibly 2) abandoned, 3 no news
Rolling Stock
Bulleid coaches: - no newsPainted examples of the class 70 have been seen,
Mark 2A coaches: - no news
Mark 1 FK: - YES!!! (but I believe not the full range of liveries yet??)
Mark 1 Horsebox: believed in progress, dealers suggesting mid 2013 release
BR CCT 4 wheel van: believed in progress, but no indication of release date
24T iron ore hopper: believed in progress, dealers suggesting mid 2013 release
Polybulk hopper: no known progress.
A bit of an update on that;
- Painted examples of the class 70 have been seen.
- Painted samples of the class 55 published in mags.
- EP samples of the Mk2s seen at last years NGS AGM.
- Pic of Horsebox EP model published
- EP of iron ore hopper at TINGS last year and pics of painted examples since published.
Looks like some things are getting there slowly.
H.
I have a horsebox on pre-order with Hatton's who, while chatting of other things, suggested that it was due middle of the year.
No idea on any of the others but eagerly await my Class V Schools and Class 7P Princess Coronation.
Must try and make sure the cash is tucked away so I don't squander it on anything trivial, like food or petrol!
Dave G
Quote from: daveg on March 09, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
. . . make sure the cash is tucked away so I don't squander it on anything trivial, like food or petrol!
or the really important essentials like beer and football. :D
H.
Quote from: MinZaPint on March 08, 2013, 11:27:00 AM
Am I the only one hankering for some steamers and appropriate coaching stock,
Yep, probably. Roll on some decent EMUs especially third rail SR jobbies.
But wish listing aside (and re-liveries) I thought this thread was more about what was likely to be announced as all new products by Farish. My latest thoughts, not of those I necessarily want, is;
* LMS/BR Fowler 4F 0-6-0 steam locomotive
* SR/BR Class 416 2-EPB EMU or SR/BR Class 419 MLV (motor luggage van)
* Re-tooled BR class 40 diesel loco
* Stainer 60ft coach
* and wagons that are already produced as kits by smaller manufacturers.
H.
Quote from: H on March 09, 2013, 12:58:13 PM
* and wagons that are already produced as kits by smaller manufacturers.
H.
Hi
Or things you have spent ages scratch building.
Cheers
Paul
Quote from: PaulCheffus on March 09, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: H on March 09, 2013, 12:58:13 PM
* and wagons that are already produced as kits by smaller manufacturers.
Or things you have spent ages scratch building.
Yep, and that also goes for coaches, locos and units.
H.
The MN is still listed as pending - at the ever growing prices now being asked (138.95!)
Class 55 has been given dates of July/August, and the 70 June/July.
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 09, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
The MN is still listed as pending - at the ever growing prices now being asked (138.95!)
By the time that's been reduced by the usual retailer discount it's only the equivalent of about 30 pints of beer so just a couple of evenings staying at home will pay for it . . . . . ;D
H.
Or locally 14 sundays of eat all you can.. erm like ;) curry buffet.
Thats a more difficult decision.
Quote from: H on March 09, 2013, 02:16:47 PM
it's only the equivalent of about 30 pints of beer so just a couple of evenings staying at home will pay for it . . . . . ;D
30 pints of beer? Would take me two and a half years to save for it at that rate then ;) Given how long these things take to actually appear it's probably about right ;D
Paul
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 09, 2013, 02:19:06 PM
Or locally 14 sundays of eat all you can.. erm like ;) curry buffet.
Thats a more difficult decision.
Even more difficult - a few nights out on the beer followed by slap-up late night currys. :D
H.
Quote from: Ollie3440 on March 08, 2013, 08:01:04 PM
What I think will be likely new products:
4MT 4-6-0, 450 EMU, Class 105
What I think will be re-tooled:
4f, 25, 8f, 40 maybe?
What I would like to see:
Stanier Mogul, City of Truro, SDJR 7f, G2A, Ivatt 4mt.......
There are a load of re-liveries i'd love to see such as a something in DRS! More runs of the Black 5's and a Crimson/Cream RMB (vital for a modern preserved layout :P )
Ollie
Given reported slow sales of existing products I would think any further electrics in N be they Overhead or Third Rail may be unlikely for a while.
Diesel: -
I think a retooled 25 would be logical and cost effective given the existing Class 24 chassis. I think this must be realistic and fairly likely.
Possibly a Class 40.
first Gen DMUs may also have reached saturation point for now with both 108 and 101 readily available in all liveries except BR green.
Steam: -
I think a newly tooled 4F 0-6-0 looks an extremely realistic prospect given the 00 one's appearance and this would follow Bachmann's declared policy of manufacturing in both scales.
A K3 2-6-0 may also make commercial sense given the existence of the 4200 gallon Group Standard tender-drive used on the J39 and B1 to keep down development costs , especially given the J39 will use a flared tender variant. However as I understand it this was not an especially strong seller in 00?
In truth though I'd be happy to just see some existing projects delivered. I have had J39s on order for getting on for two years and the Ivatt 2-6-0 even longer - these are now on the radar. Timely arrival of the A2 in addition to these would be enough for me.
Oh, and Mk1 Sleepers of course :)
Roy
Quote from: Roy L S on March 09, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
Given reported slow sales of existing products I would think any further electrics in N be they Overhead or Third Rail may be unlikely for a while.
It's the overhead loco sales that have been slow and that was only mentioned by Dapol. I don't think Farish have recently commented on it. In fact Bachmann seem to be doing very well with new products and sales of third rail EMUs in OO/4mm.
Quote from: Roy L S on March 09, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
Oh, and Mk1 Sleepers of course :)
EP versions of those were at Warley.
H.
Now you're talking EP, only thing is, it is one of the few things we don't have over here, plenty of curry houses but no curry buffets only the chinese seem to do that here. :(
Any one know the cheapest way to get a copy ?
???
A "King Arthur" would be nice, or a SR "N" or "U" class, seems to be a theme here!
Regards
Chris
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 09, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
Class 55 has been given dates of July/August, and the 70 June/July.
In Bachmann time yes - so my guess of Warley / TINGs should be about right on the 'real world' calendar.
:-[
I have my fingers crossed for.....
Intercity exc livery mk2's
More 80's. & 90'S sector loco too. I keep seeing their OO variants and hope they scale down
Personally I think we are going to get a batch of reliveries and not much else to give them time to sort adn finish all the stuff they are already working on. If we are lucky enough to have some new announcements then, as others have said, I think we hay have a couple of upgrades to look forward to, maybe the class 158/159? they are a little long int he tooth and couple do with a decent chassis!
As for rolling stock, I would like to see come new Mk2 stock to the newer standard, possible with air con versions?
Maybe Warwell and warflat wagons would be a possibility? especially if they did the more modern version of the warflat rather than matching the Parkwood kit.
Anyway, not long to wait!!
Simon
Bit late on the uptake on this thread.
QuoteOthers that would be good with lights are the SWT and Southern Turbostars and the SWT Class 159.
This would be nice, my Poole vintage one is back running from BR Bob, but even I can see its dated now. It would also stop me hankering after 158's on eBay (assuming they did a 158 at the same time, surely that's easy?)
Apart from that, not really a lot left on my wishlist now. I would be tempted by a new tooled 55, but only if they release "Tulyar" (and no, not in custard dip blue >:D).
Skyline2uk
Bachman homepage now - a Castle, 4F, 25/1 and 25/2, Fairburn tank, N class and a 64XX tank.
Well. There's an entire range I couldn't be less interested in :(
Edit: ooo, I take it back! Look at the product pages - NR 57 and DRS 37, better than nothing! Weathered 66s, 150s and 170s too.
I got one of my wishes then, an "N" class.
Chris
Quote from: njee20 on March 10, 2013, 09:03:47 AM
Bachman homepage now - a Castle, 4F, 25/1 and 25/2, Fairburn tank, N class and a 64XX tank.
Well. There's an entire range I couldn't be less interested in :(
Edit: ooo, I take it back! Look at the product pages - NR 57 and DRS 37, better than nothing! Weathered 66s, 150s and 170s too.
Could you please send me the link for the page(s). Can't seem to find them.
Thanks
Dave G
I hope it is just a technical glitch, but the Scenecraft buildings range is now listed as only one item. On the plus side the cars have disappeared from the Motor Vehicles list, and I notice that there are delivery dates for the first Guy Arab Utility double decker and three versions of the Harrington Cavalier coach.
Mike
Quote from: Seawise on March 10, 2013, 09:16:01 AM
I got one of my wishes then, an "N" class.
Chris
Me too, and a Castle as well.
Wonder how long we'll have to wait to see either or both in the flesh?
Dave G
Links for those who cannot find them. Look for items marked NEW
Loco announcements
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/index.php (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/index.php)
Full loco list
Steam
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=2 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=2)
Modern
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=1 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=1)
Freight wagons
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=4 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=4)
Passenger coaches
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=3 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=3)
Mike
Dave - just look through the respective sections here (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/farish.php), loads of stuff has 'new' against it.
Mk2Fs as well.
So, in the motive power section just two all new products (N and Fairburn) with four re-tooling of old Poole products. To be expected - nothing greatly exciting, but steady, welcome and should go down pretty well. Let's hope they manage to clear the backlog of promises as well.
H.
Quote from: H on March 10, 2013, 09:52:58 AM
So, in the motive power section just two all new products (N and Fairburn) with four re-tooling of old Poole products. To be expected - nothing greatly exciting, but steady, welcome and should go down pretty well. Let's hope they manage to clear the backlog of promises as well.
H.
I think I would count the Class 25/1 and class 25/2 as new - new body and a new chassis which is DCC ready.
Mike
Like the sound of a Heavily weathered Scot :claphappy:
Also like the sound of the Cov-Hop's and a new Wigan based P.O 7 plank open wagon
Only problem is my wallet has just run off and hidden itself somewhere :doh:
dave :thumbsup:
Quote from: davieb on March 10, 2013, 10:01:32 AM
...
Only problem is my wallet has just run off and hidden itself somewhere :doh:
dave :thumbsup:
Know what you mean!
What with existing pre-orders and now some more temptations, I'll never get to retire in the Seychelles at this rate!
Dave G
Spotted a couple of things for the future, just a shame both the EWS diesels are weathered only :(
Quote from: njee20 on March 10, 2013, 09:32:41 AM
Dave - just look through the respective sections here (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/farish.php), loads of stuff has 'new' against it.
Mk2Fs as well.
Unfortunately a lot of the stuff marked new is from last years unfullfilled promises like the Bulleids and some Mk2s but, although I'm not too sure, aren't the Scotrail DBSOs, autotrailers (to go wIth thE auto pannier?), Hawksworths and SR bogie B LVs all new?
H.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on March 10, 2013, 09:59:36 AM
I think I would count the Class 25/1 and class 25/2 as new - new body and a new chassis which is DCC ready.
It's not really a new Farish model having been done (badly) before by Poole, but this will be an all new Blue Riband re-tooling of it.
H.
Quotearen't the Scotrail DBSOs, autotrailers (to go wIth thE auto pannier?), Hawksworths and SR bogie B LVs all new?
The DBSOs certainly are - and the locos to go with them.
I guess the BIG question to be answered is when will all this new stuff turn up?
Judging by the recent few years performance it might be quite a while and possibly some of it never. :worried:
H.
Quote from: H on March 10, 2013, 10:17:14 AM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on March 10, 2013, 09:59:36 AM
I think I would count the Class 25/1 and class 25/2 as new - new body and a new chassis which is DCC ready.
It's not really a new Farish model having been done (badly) before by Poole, but this will be an all new Blue Riband re-tooling of it.
H.
Got it Grahame. Looks like the air-con Mk2s become Blue Riband as well so maybe not printed sides on clear shells but retooled with a new body shell with separate glazing, and close coupling on a retooled new chassis.
:)
Mike
My poor Wallet! 64xx, N class, Castle, Class 25/1, Hawksworth Coaches, 2 types of SR luggage vans. All more or less appropriate to my layout setting!
Quote from: H on March 10, 2013, 10:25:21 AM
I guess the BIG question to be answered is when will all this new stuff turn up?
H.
I would have hoped the 25s would not be too far away,but the fact that they have only just released a new batch of the old ones makes me think it might be a while yet.
Never mind though,as the old saying goes........"Good things come to those who wait".... :) :NGaugersRule:
Got it Grahame. Looks like the air-con Mk2s become Blue Riband as well so maybe not printed sides on clear shells but retooled with a new body shell with separate glazing, and close coupling on a retooled new chassis.
:)
Mike
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Hope so!, with the same being produced in OO you would think that if they had to do a CAD for the OO the N would be new as well.
Some really interesting stuff on the cards here.
BR Blue class 87
BR Blue Shove Duff!
Large Logo Greyfriars Bobby - nice
Mk2f and DBSO - ouch
Who said time machines weren't invented!
I am gonna have to have a clear out of anything and everything to fund some of this lot
Rgds
Mark
Grumble wish they had done a small pannier instead but I guess 64xx and BR autocoach is smart. Wonder which they'll pick as a diagram.
Quote from: H on March 10, 2013, 10:25:21 AM
I guess the BIG question to be answered is when will all this new stuff turn up?
Judging by the recent few years performance it might be quite a while and possibly some of it never. :worried:
H.
I have to agree Grahame.
I was disappointed to note that the A2 announced last year is still only at the CAD stage even though the tooling for the drive mechanism and tender (A1) already exists.
I would suggest there will be a very long wait for much of this newly announced list, and possibly even some of the re-liveries of existing models.
I console myself that the Ivatt is apparently in production and the J39 at artwork stage so at least those two should arrive this year....hopefully.
Roy
Would love a GWR Castle, but it's looking like all the engines are going to be in BR Livery.
The (sole) Mark 2F FO in ScotRail livery is missing, 3284
I look forward to revinyling this unique coach then...
Sorry if this has been said before but.....HOLY **** , look at some of these prices for the big steamers ! £130 !! £150 !!! Hmmmm . Ric
Quote from: Zwilnik on March 10, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
Would love a GWR Castle, but it's looking like all the engines are going to be in BR Livery.
They are doing a GWR lined Green one:
372-030 Castle Class 4-6-0 5044 'Earl of Dunraven' GWR Lined Green £129.95
Some more BR Blue :drool: I need to start saving & need a bigger layout :'(
A big disappointment for Southern fans with no emu's and very little else interesting. As H said plenty of rereleases and revised liveries.
Looks like another year with the same rolling stock unless the Dapol Maunsells Bachmann Bulleids actually appear. Prehaps Radleys 2 BIL will materialise. Still at least the savings will grow.
Dodger
Not much in the list for me this time other than the Class 57 in NR and a weathered class 66 in EWS.
Im a bit disappointed that they have done nothing with the class 37's body shell by doing a 37/6 and releasing DRS liveried 37's that would compliment their Nuke flasks.
Overall not to bad as it gives my wallet a long overdue break and gives me time to collect the various bits from the 2012-13 cat that i still havent obtained yet.
Good luck to Farish with this years range.......
Quote from: OwL on March 10, 2013, 01:08:53 PMIm a bit disappointed that they have done nothing with the class 37's body shell by doing a 37/6 and releasing DRS liveried 37's that would compliment their Nuke flasks
Looks like you missed this one
371-169 Class 37/4 37409 DRS Compass livery
The new 37/4 body is underway so should be released towards the end of this year
Disappointing for southern fans? with an N class on its way?? Can't please some people although granted it is a little GW heavy.
I am really excitied for the future, there are several items in both my 1960-70 era and for my modern selection to cheer me up.
Early stuff first, surprised about the autocoach at first but then with the 64xx coming out it makes sense allowing a train pack! Interesting to see the Hawksworth coaches, that leaves - Stanier/Hawksworth/Collett/Bulleid/Maunsell/Gresley soon to be available. None of us would have even hoped for that just a few years ago!!!
As for the modern stuff, I never thought the DBSO would be on the list! Here's hoping for a Network rail one sometime akthough not a difficult repaint.
Lots more but a little boggled at the mo
Best wishes
Simon
Quote from: bridgiesimon on March 10, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
As for the modern stuff, I never thought the DBSO would be on the list! Here's hoping for a Network rail one sometime akthough not a difficult repaint
I had resigned myself to the DBSO never being available RTR, and had started saving up for two CJM conversions
If the INTERCITY livery is included as the original Glasgow Works conversion was improved upon, then it follows the Network Rail version will follow in due course as well
Quote from: mjkerr on March 10, 2013, 01:13:41 PM
Quote from: OwL on March 10, 2013, 01:08:53 PMIm a bit disappointed that they have done nothing with the class 37's body shell by doing a 37/6 and releasing DRS liveried 37's that would compliment their Nuke flasks
Looks like you missed this one
371-169 Class 37/4 37409 DRS Compass livery
The new 37/4 body is underway so should be released towards the end of this year
Wow! Thats made my day :D Genuinely missed it on the previous list (bad eye site for you!)
Yeah, NR version is sure to be on the way at some point, would be madness not to especially as they have done other NR vehicles in the past!
Simon
Quote from: bridgiesimon on March 10, 2013, 01:28:09 PMNR version is sure to be on the way at some point, would be madness not to especially as they have done other NR vehicles in the past
One was recently cancelled
The mockup sample was completed, but that is as far as it went
Looks like Bachmann (Farish) decided there wasn't enough demand and went for something else instead
I don't see the MK1 Maroon Sleeper coaches, or have I missed them somewhere. I have them on pre-order with Hattons..........
I'd of been excited about the EWS class 08 if I haden't started repainting the one I got into EWS. :doh:
Quote from: Bigric on March 10, 2013, 12:13:47 PM
Sorry if this has been said before but.....HOLY **** , look at some of these prices for the big steamers ! £130 !! £150 !!! Hmmmm . Ric
The only consolation/hope is that Hatton's, MRD and Rails will do, as now, offer a decent discount off these high list prices.
I've added two steamers to my personal wish list and will wait for the above to list their prices on the web.
Dave G
All I can say is a big thank you to Dapol for waking up Farish and making them take notice of what modellers want these days. Shame no provision for lighting in the coaches especially as they've already developed a bogie that the lighted TPO uses.
Lots there for me, more blooming expense and I've not caught up with everything I want from Dapol yet. ;)
Hmmm, Castle Class? That could be very nice as a Steam Special. Even beloved likes those....
Also, 158 in Weathered Regional....Not sure I have every seen a factory finish weathered item that i liked. Suppose it won't have new chassis anyway?
Skyline2uk
Very disappointing that neither the 47/7 or any of the Mk2 coaches will be in NSE livery especialy as NSE was mentioned in the Backmann write up about 47/7s. ::)
Looks like it'll be more re-painting.
H.
Quote from: daveg on March 10, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
The only consolation/hope is that Hatton's, MRD and Rails will do, as now, offer a decent discount off these high list prices.
I wonder what discounts we'll actually get. If the pound keeps sliding presumably the prices will rise further before they appear.
A lot of it has now passed the price point I'm going to pay to upgrade to or go with something "new" with finer detailing, be it £21 coaches, or £100+ for a slightly better 31. One or two of the actual "new" items - maybe.
Still the further the prices rise, the sooner production comes back to the UK.
Alan
:greatpicturessign:
Quote from: H on March 10, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
Very disappointing that neither the 47/7 or any of the Mk2 coaches will be in NSE livery especialy as NSE was mentioned in the Backmann write up about 47/7s. ::)
Me too - that's what I was looking out for in terms of Mk2 coaches.
Quote from: daveg on March 10, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
Quote from: Bigric on March 10, 2013, 12:13:47 PM
Sorry if this has been said before but.....HOLY **** , look at some of these prices for the big steamers ! £130 !! £150 !!! Hmmmm . Ric
The only consolation/hope is that Hatton's, MRD and Rails will do, as now, offer a decent discount off these high list prices.
I've added two steamers to my personal wish list and will wait for the above to list their prices on the web.
Dave G
Don't bet on that though initially.
I think I'm right in saying that Bachmann have restricted the levels of discount any traders can offer on newly released products to something like 15%.
For example the new A2 is listed by Hattons at a preorder price of £120.28 which is certainly in the 15% ball-park - list price is now £144.96.
what I do not know is if this stipulation falls away after a certain period, possibly someone in the Trade can advise?
Roy
Quote from: Flounder on March 10, 2013, 03:05:11 PM
:greatpicturessign:Quote from: H on March 10, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
Very disappointing that neither the 47/7 or any of the Mk2 coaches will be in NSE livery especialy as NSE was mentioned in the Backmann write up about 47/7s. ::)
Me too - that's what I was looking out for in terms of Mk2 coaches.
Hi There,
If the new mk2 coaches mirror the construction of the mk1s, then repainting to NSE should not be out of the question.....
Interesting that both BR Blue era and ScotRail 47s and DBSOs are announced but no coaches in between!!!
Some more stuff on my list too...DRS 37/57, NR 57s/FGW 150 & Class 87s (although hoping for a retool given the rrp!!!)
Shame the Class 85 never got the shrink ray!!
Later,
Stu in OAKN.
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 10, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
Quote from: daveg on March 10, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
The only consolation/hope is that Hatton's, MRD and Rails will do, as now, offer a decent discount off these high list prices.
I wonder what discounts we'll actually get. If the pound keeps sliding presumably the prices will rise further before they appear.
A lot of it has now passed the price point I'm going to pay to upgrade to or go with something "new" with finer detailing, be it £21 coaches, or £100+ for a slightly better 31. One or two of the actual "new" items - maybe.
Still the further the prices rise, the sooner production comes back to the UK.
Alan
I guess the state of the £ will set the price and appreciate the comment regarding upgrading. For those of us who are gathering their 'collections' for the first time we have to pay the price, risk ebay or go without.
What are the real chances of production ever returning to the UK, Alan? The banks are keeping the money to themselves rather than allowing businesses invest. I'll stop now before I get too depressed!
Dave G
Just got on the forum after router problems this morning and....WHOA :o
My wallet's in for a right pasting with steamers, diesels and coaches galore :stop:
Last time I tried to sell my body I managed to afford 1 x IRJ :'(
Still, I've heard it's very pleasant in the nick nowadays :hmmm:
No NSE stock :'( I really thought there would have been :confused2: No EMU's, looks like I will be having a cheap year :hmmm: still at least I can carry on with my own conversions, I suppose I should be grateful of this new line up and that its hard to please every one :thumbsup:
All NSE fans lets lobby Farish :NGaugersRule: ;)
Cheers Darren NSE DAZ
Maybe I've missed some (need to go the the Bachmann site & see first-hand) - but little (anything ?) for LNER ... :(
[Edit]
Had a look - apart from the B1 'Roedeer' I think LNER has been ignored - and Roedeer is just a rebadge ... I already have the class leader Springbok :'(
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 10, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
Still the further the prices rise, the sooner production comes back to the UK.
Alan
If only, I would love to see that :thumbsup:
There's more than enough to keep me going for a while:
I wasn't expecting these, they'll do very nicely. I'll be buying these, in this order, as soon as they're out and as money allows. I think about 10% off RRP will be acceptable:
371-752 Class 87 87002 'Royal Sovereign' BR Blue
371-753 Class 87 87005 'City of London' InterCity
371-087 Class 25/2 25234 BR Blue
371-112 Class 31 31173 BR Blue
These look like they'll be going on my "wants list" too:
371-015B Class 08 08856 BR Blue with Wasp Stripes
371-019 Class 08 08897 EWS Weathered
372-243 Class 47/7 47701 'Saint Andrew' BR Blue
372-244 Class 47/7 47711 'Greyfriars Bobby' BR Blue Large Logo
372-245 Class 47/7 47710 'Sir Walter Scott' BR ScotRail
374-013B BR Mk1 SO Second Open Blue & Grey
374-062C BR Mk1 SK Second Corridor Blue & Grey
374-085A BR Mk1 BCK Brake Corridor Composite Blue & Grey
374-134 BR Mk1 GUV Blue Motorail
373-558 100 Ton TEA Bogie Tank Wagon BP Green
371-329 BR Sprinter Weathered? Not too sure about this. Maybe, maybe not. I'll have to see it first.
371-559 Class 158 158849 2 Car DMU BR Regional Rail Weathered? Likewise.
371-088 Class 25/2 25231 BR Blue Weathered? Likewise.
371-455 Class 37 37251 BR Blue Weathered? Likewise.
371-577 Class 45 45024 BR Blue Weathered? Likewise.
Not everything is there, though a lot is! Thumbs up for Farish.
:thumbsup:
No SWT 450 Desiro :'( so nothing for me which is good news for my bank balance . . . unless the Grampian Voyager has a better motor in it than the current versions.
If they all get into the shops my SR, GWR based wallet will go into meltdown! :worried: but hey :claphappy: and I did mention the N15 earlier just hope these guys @ GF don't turn out to be PT's!
What is the "EP" stage?
The Fairburns have been top of my wishlist. A couple of them will do very nicely :claphappy:
Looks like I will have plenty of time to save up :smiley-laughing:
I like the N class, so that may find its way into the Dreyfus stud, as could the Scotrail 47/7 with the DBSO...an interesting train!
Nothing else has made me go wow, but the 00 E4 is exciting!
I'll be interested in the BR Blue class 25 & 31, the class 47 blue& large logo, and the class blue 37, 45 & sprinters but it depends on how the weathering looks :hmmm:
The blue 08's should sell well, although I don't really need any more as i've got 4 now :-[ & 2 of those i've done blue repaints on ::)
cheers, Stu.
Quote from: MinZaPint on March 10, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 10, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
Still the further the prices rise, the sooner production comes back to the UK.
Alan
If only, I would love to see that :thumbsup:
Well Peco apparently do some of their production in the UK already - perhaps thats one reason their wagon prices have been far more constant than the others.
Its something I end up looking at for other non modelling related reasons, and various analysts claim that for plastic moulding in general (and I'm sure model railway stuff will be different in places especially loco assembly) that 2014/2015 would be the current point at which it was cheaper to switch typical plastics production back IF the facilities and knowledge exist back home.
For some stuff like a lot of clothing and fabrics the crossover was last year, and people have indeed been repatriating a small range of clothing work like cushion manufacture.
Dapol I believe have some UK facilities to do actual work. I don't know if those are what is used to run the old Airfix kits.. would be interesting to know what Dapol do and can produce in the UK.
Bachmann of course are part of a Chinese company so effectively an office outsourced from China to the UK !
Alan
Quote from: bridgiesimon on March 10, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
Interesting to see the Hawksworth coaches, that leaves - Stanier/Hawksworth/Collett/Bulleid/Maunsell/Gresley soon to be available. None of us would have even hoped for that just a few years ago!!!
Given Bachmann have just announced completely new versions in 00 and there are currently no LNER coaches in the Farish range Thompsons next year must be a near certainty. Crimson & Cream ones would certainly go well with A1s & A2s.
Quote from: NSE DAZ on March 10, 2013, 03:55:04 PM
No NSE stock :'( I really thought there would have been :confused2: No EMU's, looks like I will be having a cheap year :hmmm: still at least I can carry on with my own conversions.
Yes, another cheap year in terms of models for me too. A lot more time needs to be found to start converting and making our own. :) I'm disappointed that there are no more 3rd Rail EMU's of any kind, but not surprised. I had thought that Mk2's would have been a certainty.
Quote from: njee20 on March 10, 2013, 09:03:47 AM
Bachman homepage now - a Castle, 4F, 25/1 and 25/2, Fairburn tank, N class and a 64XX tank.
Well. There's an entire range I couldn't be less interested in :(
Edit: ooo, I take it back! Look at the product pages - NR 57 and DRS 37, better than nothing! Weathered 66s, 150s and 170s too.
Hi
At last a 25/1 that's cheered me up until I noticed that it is only in green. Think it's time to gain some airbrushing skills.
Cheers
Paul
According to some gen ive just recieved some items are not yet announced so the nse 47/7 might still be on the cards.
Me personally im dissappointed that the stuff i might want is all being released in weathered style. Id wish they didnt do it as there are plenty of aftermarket people who do more than a good job but those who want pristine still get them. Im mainly 80s 90s stuff but having travelled on so many fgw 150s 150128 is just so tempting.
Richard
Quote from: Arrachogaidh on March 10, 2013, 11:27:38 AM
BR MK2 DBSO Driving Brake Second Open Blue & Grey
Hi
And there it is something else I have been working on now due for release. Sometimes I wonder why I both making anything.
Cheers
Paul
Get it out quick, and get your profit before Bachmann do ...
Quote from: PaulCheffus on March 10, 2013, 06:10:27 PM
And there it is something else I have been working on now due for release. Sometimes I wonder why I both making anything.
Thats why several people I know work in things like 3mm. That way everyone knows that a) they made it and b) it won't be appearing RTR
Alan
Quote from: BernardTPM on March 10, 2013, 05:47:41 PM
Given Bachmann have just announced completely new versions in 00 and there are currently no LNER coaches in the Farish range Thompsons next year must be a near certainty.
Where "next year" really means "next year plus about 18 months" yes I agree. There's a reason I've been updating my tooling so it can spit out etched sides to fit any RTR size. Just need the first RTR Bulleids and Hawksworths out to take the measurements and push the button to cover all the coach diagrams Farish and Dapol don't 8)
Alan
Oh, the N class looks interesting. Does anyone happen to know what the wheelbase of this loco is?
Quote from: Roy L S on March 10, 2013, 03:08:24 PM
I think I'm right in saying that Bachmann have restricted the levels of discount any traders can offer on newly released products to something like 15%.
That sounds suspiciously like RPM which is effectively illegal (since about 1965 I think) and is certainly against the public interest unless proven otherwise.
There was a time when the maximum discount on Farish RRP was around 20% although that does seem to have reduced on new stock, but retailers do sometimes mark down goods as 'clearence' etc. with much bigger discounts. Yesterday in Signal Box they had quite a few Farish products (including new Blue riband wagons) substantially reduced. For example the 20t Railfreight brake van was down from £8 to £5.99 which has a RRP of £11.10 so the price discount is over 45%.
H.
EP; im led to believe it stands for engineering prototype. Dx
Some very welcome announcements for me, with the class 25/1+2 being top of my list. Some nice additions to the parcels fleet yet again as well, with the Hawksworth full brake, the SR Bogie B and LMS 50ft brake, there's barely anything left for the parcels fleet now!
Interesting that Farish are doing their own SR PLV as well though with the Dapol one having just had a bit of an overhaul...!
Quote from: Benn on March 10, 2013, 08:12:02 PM
Some very welcome announcements for me, with the class 25/1+2 being top of my list. Some nice additions to the parcels fleet yet again as well, with the Hawksworth full brake, the SR Bogie B and LMS 50ft brake, there's barely anything left for the parcels fleet now!
You'd be amazed what was running even into the early 1970s on parcels stock - lots and lots of untouched choices yet.
Alan (currentlly working on an LMS cream van, which lasted into rail blue!)
Thank you Bachmann :D
Many lovely items which will be added to my ever growing pre-order list. Fairburn, Castle and 64xx win it for me though :D
Ollie
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 10, 2013, 08:24:16 PM
You'd be amazed what was running even into the early 1970s on parcels stock - lots and lots of untouched choices yet.
Aye, very true, but most of the major ones have now been covered which is great news, some Gresley full brakes would be nice, and a new Siphon G in blue would also be pretty good!
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 10, 2013, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on March 10, 2013, 06:10:27 PM
And there it is something else I have been working on now due for release. Sometimes I wonder why I both making anything.
Thats why several people I know work in things like 3mm. That way everyone knows that a) they made it and b) it won't be appearing RTR
Alan
Hi
It's tempting but I have far too much N to contemplate changing. I did consider 4mm with 12mm gauge track and a model of Blythburgh on the Southwold railway.
Cheers
Paul
Quote from: Benn on March 10, 2013, 08:42:52 PM
some Gresley full brakes would be nice,
already available from the NGS.
H.
Quote from: H on March 10, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
Very disappointing that neither the 47/7 or any of the Mk2 coaches will be in NSE livery especialy as NSE was mentioned in the Backmann write up about 47/7s. ::)
Looks like it'll be more re-painting.
H.
Now I've gotten used to my airbrush I'm almost pleased about this I can make myself a rake of mk1's and mk2's in NSE knowing I'm one of a few,,,,,
Quote from: Arrachogaidh on March 10, 2013, 10:14:52 PM
Some people just like RTR don't they!
I have the NGS one, it's a great kit, but it's not exactly what I'd call cheap considering the price of an RTR coach these days..! Must be talking to someone else there with that one though mate, this is someone who runs a layout based on NSE EMUs! That's not a great idea if you only buy RTR... ;)
Quote from: H on March 10, 2013, 09:58:47 PM
Quote from: Benn on March 10, 2013, 08:42:52 PM
some Gresley full brakes would be nice,
already available from the NGS.
H.
Or from Ultima is a pair of replacement sides for the Dapol coach :D
Quote from: Arrachogaidh on March 10, 2013, 10:14:52 PM
Ah yes, as an Intermediate level Kit. Some people just like RTR don't they!
Yep, sad and unfortunate. But it's not exactly a difficult kit, is all plastic and has RTR Dapol bogies. It's basically as easy as those simple Airfix aeroplane kits we probably all put together as kids. :D
H.
Quote from: dean thom on March 10, 2013, 07:07:32 PM
EP; im led to believe it stands for engineering prototype. Dx
Thanks Dean!
I think top of my list will be a handful of those green 25s. I'm glad I didn't just splash out on the current Rat!
Quote from: Arrachogaidh on March 11, 2013, 10:21:30 AM
To imply that something should not be made available RTR purely because a kit exists would see a hell of a lot of RTR stuff disappear from manufacturers stocklists.
I don't think anyone suggested that, certainly not retrospectively to make existing 'RTR stuff disappear'. That would be plain silly.
But to be quite honest IMO it would be better if new RTR stuff concentrated on prototypes that are not already available as either RTR or a kit. That way the overall range would increase faster and we'd all be better off. Even those incapable of putting together a kit would still have more RTR options to choose from (and they could always commission a kit - or even have something scratchbuilt - to be made for them if desperate).
H.
So I was half right....new 25 and Mk2s (incl air cons), but I am surprised not to have seen the EPB or MPV put through the shrinking machine.
What chance the Wickham trolley being shrunk in 12 months!
Cheers, Mike
Most of my rolling stock is RTR because I like it but I have a growing collection of kit wagons from Peco and NGS. The Peco ones are generally quite simple - apart from those annoying fixing nuts supplied with some!
I attempted the NGS Hopper wagon kit. Nice kit but with some very, very small pieces, I wasn't able to finish them 100%. It hasn't put me off kit building but I will try in future to choose those which match my limited dexterity.
Regarding the commisioning of a 'pro' kit builder, who is out there offering such a service and what sort of charges could one expect? I thinking of the more complex build of, say, a mobile crane. 'One offs' I would think could be quite a lot more than building something from available kits/parts.
That info may be of interest to some, including me, perhaps.
Dave G
Quote from: daveg on March 11, 2013, 11:00:35 AM
I have a growing collection of kit wagons from Peco and NGS. The Peco ones are generally quite simple - apart from those annoying fixing nuts supplied with some!
I attempted the NGS Hopper wagon kit. Nice kit but with some very, very small pieces, I wasn't able to finish them 100%. It hasn't put me off kit building but I will try in future to choose those which match my limited dexterity.
Well done. Sounds like you're giving it a go and will no doubt improve 'your dexterity' as well as improving/increasing the range of stock on your layout and having some modelling fun.
But back to the new list from that little diversion.
Anyone notice the Hawksworth full brake listed which was presumably the reason the NGS quickly switched from it to a Collett FB having announced it as their next RTR project last year. I certainly wasn't surprised to see it on the Farish list.
H.
Is it just me, or has the updated Scenecraft N gauge list gone AWOL?
:help:
Just noticed the DBSO, as well. Very nice. I've had a thought, I reckon that the Class 87s in BR Blue and Intercity (I'll be doubly impressed if it's Executive rather than Swallow) should sell better than the Virgin ones, as there's much renumbering potential, there. Shawplan may need to prepare a decently-sized batch of their Class 87 2mm nameplates.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: 508111 on March 11, 2013, 12:14:33 PM
Is it just me, or has the updated Scenecraft N gauge list gone AWOL?
:help:
Forgot to look! :uneasy:
Hope not as I've just added a few bits to my wish list!
Dave G
Quote from: H on March 11, 2013, 11:16:51 AM
Anyone notice the Hawksworth full brake listed which was presumably the reason the NGS quickly switched from it to a Collett FB having announced it as their next RTR project last year. I certainly wasn't surprised to see it on the Farish list.
I must admit to being taken by suprise. I assumed Dapol had something planned further down the line. I had rather assumed that with the 00 Hawksworths being done by Hornby, Farish would steer clear of them. I am delighted to be proved wrong of course.
I wonder why Farish are only doing the Hawksworths in blood and custard livery? They also wore Maroon. Some of them were produced in time to wear GWR choc and cream. Some of the full brakes also wore plain crimson for TPO work.
I have a hankering for something to accompany the Farish TPO so I will probably try repainting one myself. Fortunately you don't get miuch simpler than unlined crimson. ;)
Quote from: Karhedron on March 11, 2013, 03:28:09 PM
I wonder why Farish are only doing the Hawksworths in blood and custard livery? They also wore Maroon. Some of them were produced in time to wear GWR choc and cream. Some of the full brakes also wore plain crimson for TPO work.
I'd guess Maroon will follow and I do wonder if Osborn's might do GWR if nobody else picks it up. There was almost no GWR Hawksworth stock though, they began producing them just as nationalisation was on the cards and the moment that was apparent the GWR (in true capitalist fatcat tradition) immediately figured out it was in the shareholders interest to halt all the new build and spending it could.
Alan
Pictures of the new 55's and 37 look promising!
Quote from: matt94 on March 11, 2013, 07:24:24 PM
Pictures of the new 55's and 37 look promising!
Those are this years (2012 to 2013) not next years (2013 to 2014)
There is only one photo so far of a loco, a real world Class 31 in green livery, and it's not even of a model!
The other photo is of a coach, currently available in OO gauge
I wouldn't expect to see any photos until the end of this year
With the recent arrival of RTR Scottish type 2's it is a shrewd move to capture the market with the 47/7's and DBSO releases.
The 25/1 is most welcome too but a shame no 85.....
This 1970/80's revival is really being met head on, its costing me a bloody fortune!
Quote from: dr deltic on March 11, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
This 1970/80's revival is really being met head on, its costing me a bloody fortune!
About time, too! Hopefully now with all this gear, over the next few years we see a growth in the number of high quality, non-steam N gauge layouts on the circuit as a result!
Quote from: Benn on March 11, 2013, 09:29:01 PM
high quality, non-steam
A contradictions in terms, surely? ;)
Quote from: H on March 11, 2013, 10:47:32 AM
But to be quite honest IMO it would be better if new RTR stuff concentrated on prototypes that are not already available as either RTR or a kit.
H.
I'm not sure I'm with you on that one mate, that's like saying Farish shouldn't of announced the DBSO because they already do Mk2s and TPM or ERG do a conversion for it. 'Dexterity' plays a part (I consider myself to be a reasonably competent modeller, not the best but still learning), but sometimes the market for an RTR model will outweigh the market for an already existing and not necessarily difficult kit; for example in the case of the Queen Mary brake, the Seacow hopper, Dogfish, bogie bolster D, etc... OK the first three are pretty difficult, but you get my drift...! I can see the Shark Brake joining this list at some point.
Anyway, yes, back on topic! :thumbsup:
A few photo's of the latest releases have appeared on Hattons website.
cheers, Stu.
So have their pre-order options, just hope that all the pre-orders I've placed today don't come out all together, I could be in serious trouble with the bank. :)
Quote from: whiteswan on March 12, 2013, 06:35:36 PM
So have their pre-order options, just hope that all the pre-orders I've placed today don't come out all together, I could be in serious trouble with the bank. :)
I'm sure you will be delighted with your Grampian Voyager
Quote from: Pengy on March 12, 2013, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on March 12, 2013, 06:35:36 PM
So have their pre-order options, just hope that all the pre-orders I've placed today don't come out all together, I could be in serious trouble with the bank. :)
I'm sure you will be delighted with your Grampian Voyager
Go wash your mouth out Pengy, GWR and Southern kettles only, proper engines, not cans on wheels. :laugh:
Oh well, Here goes:
Going to pre-order that GWR Castle. :drool:
I can't help myself and I'm told there's no known cure! :laugh2:
Like Caz, I hope all the kit doesn't come in on the same boat.
Dave G
Can't believe I have pre ordered so much tonight :o
This on the back of all the other pre orders outstanding :doh:
The Farish 2013/14 line-up seems to have bit of a LMS theme on the steam front. Some of the engines look really nice, and I have always been a bit partial to the LMS liveries, but I will stay firm and not add another era to the fleet.
First I was pretty happy to see an EWS Class 08 but having seen the picture on Hattons just now I am not all that thrilled. Ultimately I think all that I will be getting is the Network Rail Class 57 which will go nicely with some of the Dapol Network Rail rolling stock coming out.
Marcus
Rails also have their pre-orders up. I have had great service from both Rails and Hattons in the past but I may try and favour my local model shop.
Quote from: Karhedron on March 12, 2013, 08:35:18 PM
I have had great service from both Rails and Hattons in the past but I may try and favour my local model shop.
Funnily enough me too on all counts! :thumbsup:
Agree about the EWS Class 08, looks odd weathered. Just hope they do a plain one.
I'm pre-ordering Totnes Castle and possibly an A2 Late Crest or Fairburn from my local shop, which happens to be Rails!
QuoteJust hope they do a plain one.
Ditto the Regional 158. Can't quite see the logic in releasing this in just weathered...unless its still got the old chassis and releasing a weathered one makes it "new" enough.
Skyline2uk
It is odd!
I was talking to a retailer yesterday that is very close geographically to Bachmann/Farish and he said it would not suprise him if unweathered versions came out of certain loco's. Especially if it's a repeat livery but with updated Blue Ribband tooling.
Quote from: newportnobby on March 12, 2013, 08:20:06 PM
Can't believe I have pre ordered so much tonight :o
This on the back of all the other pre orders outstanding :doh:
I know what you mean Mick! Put all mine in last night. Some 20 odd locos but not many MK1s to take my fancy this year :P (Loads of MK2s though :D )
Ollie
Quote from: Ollie3440 on March 12, 2013, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 12, 2013, 08:20:06 PM
Can't believe I have pre ordered so much tonight :o
This on the back of all the other pre orders outstanding :doh:
I know what you mean Mick! Put all mine in last night. Some 20 odd locos but not many MK1s to take my fancy this year :P (Loads of MK2s though :D )
Ollie
That's one heck of an investment, Ollie!
Care to share your shopping list?
Dave G
Quote from: daveg on March 13, 2013, 07:08:12 AM
Quote from: Ollie3440 on March 12, 2013, 10:29:48 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 12, 2013, 08:20:06 PM
Can't believe I have pre ordered so much tonight :o
This on the back of all the other pre orders outstanding :doh:
I know what you mean Mick! Put all mine in last night. Some 20 odd locos but not many MK1s to take my fancy this year :P (Loads of MK2s though :D )
Ollie
That's one heck of an investment, Ollie!
Care to share your shopping list?
Dave G
Well seeing as you asked:
371-085 Class 25/1 D5188 BR Green
371-087 Class 25/2 25234 BR Blue
371-111 Class 31 D5596 BR Green SYP
371-112 Class 31 31173 BR Blue
371-169 Class 37/4 37409 DRS (x2)
371-396 Class 66 66731 GBRf
371-604 Class 42 D832 'Onslaught' BR Green
371-656 Class 57 57312 NR Yellow (x2)
371-657 Class 57 57309 'Pride of Crewe' DRS
371-987 64xx 6400 BR Green Late
372-060 4F 43924 BR Black Late
372-211 3F Jinty 47394 BR Black Early
372-212 3F Jinty 47345 BR Black Late
372-578 Royal Scot 6100 'Royal Scot' LMS Crimson
372-653 4MT 2-6-0 76079 BR Black Early
372-752 Fairburn 42073 BR Black Late
372-800B A1 60163 Tornado BR Blue
373-827 BRA EWS Weathered
374-010C MK1 SO Crimson/Cream
374-200D MK1 PFP Opal Umber/Cream
374-210D MK1 PSP Car 351 Umber/Cream
374-415 Southern PMV BR Crimson
374-416 Southern PMV BR Green
374-585 Hawksworth Full Brake Crimson/Cream
374-610 BR Auto Trailer Crimson/Cream
374-611 BR Auto Trailer Maroon
374-660 MK2F RFB Blue/Grey
374-681 MK2A BSO DRS (x2)
374-690 MK2F BSO Blue/Grey
374-735 MK2F TSO Blue/Grey (x4)
374-760 MK2F FO Blue/Grey (x4)
374-762 MK2F FO Intercity
377-375B Toad Brake Van GWR
377-750 Midland 20T Brake Van LMS Grey
377-777 12T Pipe Wagon BR Bauxite Late
377-803 FNA DRS
I will also be ordering some castles but not until I know what Tender/Chimney's the models will have. :D
Ollie
Yikes :o
I can see why you've gone full time now :D
I only ordered just over £700 worth :-[
Quote from: newportnobby on March 13, 2013, 08:02:31 AM
Yikes :o
I can see why you've gone full time now :D
I only ordered just over £700 worth :-[
This is why I don't mind delays on products, more time to save for it all! :P
Ollie
Quote from: whiteswan on March 12, 2013, 06:45:27 PM
Quote from: Pengy on March 12, 2013, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on March 12, 2013, 06:35:36 PM
So have their pre-order options, just hope that all the pre-orders I've placed today don't come out all together, I could be in serious trouble with the bank. :)
I'm sure you will be delighted with your Grampian Voyager
Go wash your mouth out Pengy, GWR and Southern kettles only, proper engines, not cans on wheels. :laugh:
Methinks the lady protests too much - particularly as she has a Blue Pullman and a FGW HST :laugh:
Does anyone know if the Grampian Voyager is just the old version with a new name on it or whether it has been updated with a new engine (that would allow it to keep up with my Blue Pullman)
With the timescales involved in obtaining some of last years (or the years before that) releases, I'm going to put some pre-orders in on the basis that the economy will have recovered, the county will be in the black and my salary will have increased above the rate of inflation......
...... I think I'll just stick to 3 :doh:
Stone the crows Ollie! :jawdropping:
Fabulous list. I thought I'd was pushing it with £500 on pre-order. Mind you, ignoring any financial commitment, I've only got a 72x30 board currently so I'm totally overstocked already.
I guess that your order will arrive over the next 6/12 months rather than in a one drop container load! Do you have any info on when particular items may be reaching our shores?
Dave G
A thought.
If we are going to get the Scotrail liveried 47/7 and the DBSO, but for now Farish are only producing the IC and Blue/grey coaches.
Does that mean there might be Scotrail coaches in a subsequent year or will someone take the plunge and commission ltd ed Scotrail Mk2FO & SO?
If there is now sign I'll have to see how easy that red stripe changes to blue :hmmm:
Quote from: daveg on March 13, 2013, 09:16:37 AM
I guess that your order will arrive over the next 6/12 months ...
I'm sure that's a typo :hmmm:
With a list as long as Ollie's, and the rate that these things ACTUALLY appear, surely you meant to type "6/12 years"? :D
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on March 13, 2013, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: daveg on March 13, 2013, 09:16:37 AM
I guess that your order will arrive over the next 6/12 months ...
I'm sure that's a typo :hmmm:
With a list as long as Ollie's, and the rate that these things ACTUALLY appear, surely you meant to type "6/12 years"? :D
Paul
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Dave G
Quote from: westie7 on March 13, 2013, 09:18:59 AMIf we are going to get the Scotrail liveried 47/7 and the DBSO, but for now Farish are only producing the IC and Blue/grey coaches.
Does that mean there might be Scotrail coaches in a subsequent year or will someone take the plunge and commission ltd ed Scotrail Mk2FO & SO?
If there is now sign I'll have to see how easy that red stripe changes to blue
I do wonder if Farish and Dapol talk together (we will do the 47/7 and DBSO if you do the Mark 3 coaches)
I am currently building up a rolling stock and allocation list for Glasgow Queen Street between 1986 and 1996, so the following may help
There was only one Mark 2F FO in ScotRail livery, the rest were Mark 2E
Four Mark 2F FO in Blue / Grey livery were used briefly in 1986 whilst the Mark 3A FO coaches were converted into CO
Equally, just prior to that following the Polmont accident the DBSO were temporarily taken out of service, and some of the rakes around that time had very unusual formations with reallocated BSO and BFK included (and many of these remained in Scotland afterwards)
The remaining coaches were Mark 2D TSO and TSO(T) in ScotRail livery, although again there were a small number in Blue / Grey livery
I suspect Farish are waiting until this old body is retooled and replaced
This leaves the rather unique five Mark 2 TSO coaches converted to Air Brakes with disc brakes, also in ScotRail livery (there were others, but they remained in Blue / Grey and some were reallocated)
Again, this could be an option for Farish (but most likely using Vinyls will probably be the only option)
In 1990 some INTERCITY livery coaches were used briefly as the remaining ScotRail livery coaches were refurbished and reallocated
Some also had the INTERCITY logos painted out, and some of the Mark 2D and 2E TSO even had the red stripe painted over with blue
This leaves the Mark 3A coaches
I suspect Dapol will step in and fill this void, with a FO, TSO, and (hopefully) CO
Equally, there are four livery versions possible
A Original Blue / Grey with SC prefix and numbers, FO and TSO
B Original ScotRail (experimental livery), TSO
C ScotRail, CO and TSO
D unbranded INTERCITY, TSO
Quote from: mjkerr on March 13, 2013, 09:59:12 AM
I do wonder if Farish and Dapol talk together (we will do the 47/7 and DBSO if you do the Mark 3 coaches)
They do talk to each but they don't simply lay out their plans for the next few years. It seems to be more like a complicated game of poker. Each party reveals certain information if they feel it will not damage their plans and if it will help to safeguard their "turf".
A good example is the Hawksworth coaches. The NGS was initially planning to release a Hawksworth K45 BG via Dapol. A week after the announcement, they switched to producing a K41 instead.
This implies that both Dapol and the NGS were unaware of Farish's plans at the time of the annoucement. However I suspect that Farish sent a descrete message about their plans afterwards. After all, duplication is not in anyone's interest and I am sure both parties are keen to avoid a repeat of the B1 incident.
Quote from: Karhedron on March 13, 2013, 10:31:51 AMThey do talk to each but they don't simply lay out their plans for the next few years
I am glad Dapol took the gamble with the Class 66, one of the rare occasions of duplication and where it has worked
How different it would be if Dapol considered a Class 37 or 47...
However Farish are slowly expanding on their DCC Class 37 and 47 chassis (which is now 5 years old)
I still hark back to models and kit building, the owner should be able to purchase a base model and then complete it as they see fit
A plain grey body would probably sell like hot cakes...
Quote from: mjkerr on March 13, 2013, 10:43:28 AM
A plain grey body would probably sell like hot cakes...
I am not so sure. Heljan tried making un-numbered models a few years ago with transfers to allow modellers to finish the models themselves. Most ended up in the bargain bins of places like Hattons long after the numbered models had sold out.
The NGS has produced small numbers of unpainted versions of some of their models but usually only a small number for those who want obscure liveries.
I believe Dapol did that with un numbered br large logo blue 73s and found they were very slow sellers, much slower than numbered units.
Simon
Quote from: mjkerr on March 13, 2013, 10:43:28 AM
I still hark back to models and kit building, the owner should be able to purchase a base model and then complete it as they see fit
A plain grey body would probably sell like hot cakes...
Dapol reckoned thier un-numbered large logo 73s sold poorly.
If people are willing to re-paint then stripping the body isn't that big an issue.
Cheers, Mike
Quote from: red_death on March 13, 2013, 11:41:23 AMDapol reckoned thier un-numbered large logo 73s sold poorly
The Class 73 has limited appeal, I've never bought one
The model really needs to be one with mass appeal and would be seen anywhere on the British Rail network
It does not matter. You are saying that unbranded or unpainted models would sell well. Manufacturer experience shows that they are consistently worse sellers than their fully decorated counterparts.
I am sure that 37s outsells 73s but there is no reason to suppose than an unpainted 37 would sell any better in percentage terms than a 73. If only a small percentage of modellers want unpainted models then it does not matter what the prototype is.
Quote from: mjkerr on March 13, 2013, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: red_death on March 13, 2013, 11:41:23 AMDapol reckoned thier un-numbered large logo 73s sold poorly
The Class 73 has limited appeal, I've never bought one
Thats irrelevant. They probably produced more numbered/liveried N gauge class 73s than any other N gauge loco they have ever produced so presumably it sold relatively well. But the issue was that the un-numbered version was a poor seller comparatively against the numbered versions, regardless of total sales.
H.
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There was only one Mark 2F FO in ScotRail livery, the rest were Mark 2E
.....
The remaining coaches were Mark 2D TSO and TSO(T) in ScotRail livery,
[/quote]
Thanks for that,
I knew about the single FO (Sc3247), just need to compile a list of E's and D's and see what I can create when the new coaches arrive.
Off to do the preorder now, ouch
Rgds
Quote from: westie7 on March 13, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
I knew about the single FO (Sc3247), just need to compile a list of E's and D's and see what I can create when the new coaches arrive.
Off to do the preorder now, ouch
I have a fully comprehensive list, so far I have completed 1985, 1986, and 1988
I am currently working on 1987
However, my list includes rakes of coaches used to/from Glasgow Queen Street, so the allocations for GC/FW, PC, and EC are taking up a lot of time
Here is 1985, excluding DBSO and Mark 3A coaches
All Blue / Grey livery unless stated :
2D TSO 5623 AC
2D TSO 5653 AC ScotRail
2D TSO 5659 AC
2D TSO 5662 AC
2D TSO 5663 AC
2D TSO 5671 AC ScotRail
2D TSO 5673 AC ScotRail
2D TSO 5694 AC
2D TSO 5711 AC
2D TSO 5716 AC
2D TSO 5726 AC
2D TSO 5740 AC
2D TSO(T) 6601 AC ScotRail
2D TSO(T) 6603 AC
2D TSO(T) 6604 AC
2D TSO(T) 6605 AC ScotRail
2D TSO(T) 6607 AC
2D TSO(T) 6613 AC ScotRail
2D TSO(T) 6614 AC
2D TSO(T) 6619 AC
2E FO 3245 AC
2E FO 3247 AC
2E FO 3248 AC
2E FO 3265 AC
2F FO 3284 EC
1986 :
Transfer all coaches AC to EC
Add -
2F FO 3295 EC
2F FO 3312 EC
2F FO 3337 EC
2F FO 3360 EC
2F BSO 9536 EC (for conversion to DBSO, but temporarily in use)
Relivery to ScotRail -
3245
3247
3248
3265
5623
5659
5662
5663
5694
5711
5716
5726
5740
6604
6619
1986 was also a good year, as this has the internal Scottish sleepers and the final use of the BG in ScotRail livery on Aberdeen services :
92061
92086
92088
92091
92128
Wow, that just closes about a dozen windows on my desktop! :thumbsup:
Blimey! It's taken me hours to wade through this thread...
...only kidding. :D :P
Well, I'm not pre ordering anything as I'm skint! :laugh:
Besides, I'd never buy something thats not even off the drawing board yet, thats as mad as buying a house when only the plot exists! :o
I'll look forward to the N class and the Fairburn tank as after a quick repaint I'd have a C.I.E Woolwich mogul and an N.C.C 'Jeep"! :claphappy:
I'm sure I won't be the only modeller of Irish railways that would do that either...
Quote from: westie7 on March 13, 2013, 05:09:42 PM
Wow, that just closes about a dozen windows on my desktop! :thumbsup:
Anything you need to know about ScotRail between 1985 and 1996 I should know...
I am aiming for absolute accuracy on my layout, between 1986 and 1996
However there will obviously be overlap and some things wouldn't have been possible
I spent most of this morning watching videos on YouTube just to make sure the rakes were correct
The Inverness and Oban / Fort William have been most difficult as the videos tend to be just the locos...
Quote from: mjkerr on March 13, 2013, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: red_death on March 13, 2013, 11:41:23 AMDapol reckoned thier un-numbered large logo 73s sold poorly
The Class 73 has limited appeal, I've never bought one
The model really needs to be one with mass appeal and would be seen anywhere on the British Rail network
The class 73 overall sold fine, just the unnumbered ones (of which there were only a tiny batch produced) didn't. There are still lots around but that's because Dapol made rather more than were wanted not because it didn't sell well as a volume comparison with other models.
Alan
Quote from: mjkerr on March 13, 2013, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: westie7 on March 13, 2013, 05:09:42 PM
Wow, that just closes about a dozen windows on my desktop! :thumbsup:
Anything you need to know about ScotRail between 1985 and 1996 I should know...
I am aiming for absolute accuracy on my layout, between 1986 and 1996
However there will obviously be overlap and some things wouldn't have been possible
I spent most of this morning watching videos on YouTube just to make sure the rakes were correct
The Inverness and Oban / Fort William have been most difficult as the videos tend to be just the locos...
I'll be aiming for an Aberdeen-Queen St formation,
Also handy is the PushPull article in RE133
Quote from: westie7 on March 13, 2013, 05:25:14 PMI'll be aiming for an Aberdeen-Queen St formation,
Also handy is the PushPull article in RE133
The Aberdeen - Glasgow QS formation varied, before and after AC (Aberdeen Clayhills)
From 1987 Mark 3A coaches were included in a joint pool, as by then all the coaches were allocated to EC (Craigentinny), however two rakes were increased by one TSO for use on Aberdeen duties, and that TSO would then be removed / swapped as required on a pretty much daily basis
AC aimed for :
BG-TSO-TSO-TSO-TSO(T)-FO
BSO-TSO-TSO-TSO-TSO(T)-FO
EC aimed for :
TSO-TSO-TSO-TSO(T)-FO-DBSO
What is an RE133?
Quote from: Sprintex on March 13, 2013, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: daveg on March 13, 2013, 09:16:37 AM
I guess that your order will arrive over the next 6/12 months ...
I'm sure that's a typo :hmmm:
With a list as long as Ollie's, and the rate that these things ACTUALLY appear, surely you meant to type "6/12 years"? :D
Paul
My thinking exactly. Gives me plenty of time to save up and hope that they are spread out :D
Ollie
AC aimed for :
BG-TSO-TSO-TSO-TSO(T)-FO
BSO-TSO-TSO-TSO-TSO(T)-FO
EC aimed for :
TSO-TSO-TSO-TSO(T)-FO-DBSO
What is an RE133?
[/quote]
Now theres 3 formations worth doing, maybe even a mix of ScR/Blue grey.
RE133 = Rail Express issue 133 (rail express modeller 38)
rgds
TSO would then be removed / swapped as required on a pretty much daily basis
[/quote]
Ah the flexibility of the railways to deal with additional demand. Not any more, not that easy to add to a 170
Apologies, should actually state that the Aberdeen diagram Mark 3A sets, served both Glasgow and Edinburgh
The Aberdeen - Glasgow and Edinburgh formations were very stable from 1987 to 1989 (as above)
I was lucky enough on my first journey to Aberdeen to travel on one of the dedicated Aberdeen Mark 3A sets
Sadly on the way back it was a Mark 2D set, was awful in comparison
My memories are from the period when the mk2d's took over from the pressure ventilated stock. So to me the 2d's were luxury, a seat on the TSOT was a bonus. Your toast was still warm when you got back to your seat ;)
Are there 2 separate threads going on here :confused1: :P
Quote from: newportnobby on March 13, 2013, 09:20:31 PM
Are there 2 separate threads going on here :confused1: :P
Only 2? :)
Quote from: newportnobby on March 13, 2013, 09:20:31 PM
Are there 2 separate threads going on here
I make it at least three...
Quote from: mjkerr on March 13, 2013, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 13, 2013, 09:20:31 PM
Are there 2 separate threads going on here
I make it at least three...
No-one expects the Farish Inquisition... ;)
The new releases come as a welcome surprise for me. It's going to get costly I know that.
A little disappointed the 25 in br blue is the 25/2 and not the 25/1. Maybe they'll do a blue 25/1 later we'll see.
I'm modelling BR blue so my list of loco's - 4x class 08856, 2x 25234, 3x 31173, 1 x 45024.
Coaches - There are in excess of 35 coaches in blue/grey that I want in addition to the already announced Mk2a coaches that I want.
Quote from: 47033 on March 14, 2013, 03:31:24 PM
The new releases come as a welcome surprise for me. It's going to get costly I know that.
A little disappointed the 25 in br blue is the 25/2 and not the 25/1. Maybe they'll do a blue 25/1 later we'll see.
From what has been said and the pictures its an early body pattern 25/2 so should just be a renumbering job ?
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 14, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
Quote from: 47033 on March 14, 2013, 03:31:24 PM
The new releases come as a welcome surprise for me. It's going to get costly I know that.
A little disappointed the 25 in br blue is the 25/2 and not the 25/1. Maybe they'll do a blue 25/1 later we'll see.
From what has been said and the pictures its an early body pattern 25/2 so should just be a renumbering job ?
Alan
Thanks Alan, that would be great because i'd really like to model some of the Cardiff - Crewe 25's.
Apart from buying the catalogue, are there any pics available anywhere of the new models as they haven't even appeared on the Farish website yet ???
If you scroll down the page there are some on RMWeb, see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69149-bachmann-announcements-20134/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69149-bachmann-announcements-20134/)
Quote from: newportnobby on March 15, 2013, 04:01:14 PMApart from buying the catalogue, are there any pics available anywhere of the new models as they haven't even appeared on the Farish website yet ???
I don't see how that would be possible as many of the items marked as New aren't even past the design stage yet
However, I have noticed they are slowly adding relative images of items already released in OO gauge or real world
Quote from: whiteswan on March 15, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
If you scroll down the page there are some on RMWeb, see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69149-bachmann-announcements-20134/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69149-bachmann-announcements-20134/)
Thanks Caz, somehow I was getting the impression folks were seeing pics I thought could not exist, as MJK says :confused1:
I tend to ignore anything with a tension coupling (OO gauge) or two-three digit catalogue number
Equally, that link is to Bachmann, not Farish by Bachmann (easily confused though)
Quote from: mjkerr on March 16, 2013, 12:44:50 AM
I tend to ignore anything with a tension coupling (OO gauge) or two-three digit catalogue number
Equally, that link is to Bachmann, not Farish by Bachmann (easily confused though)
Catches me out occasionally too. I get all excited about a model and then see the code number that tells me it's 00.
Still, lots to look forward to. Here's hoping that we see most if not all of it over the next 12 months.
Dave G
Finally got a chance to 'thumb' through the cat at my local shop. Very interesting.
Good to see an expanding range and overall some good choices by Farish.
There are always going to be some winners and losers as to who wants what but there is always next year to wonder about? :hmmm: :D
373-510 46 Tonne RNA Nuclear Flask Barrier Wagon £ 9.95
How did that one pass me by?! I think I would still rather buy a kit from Bernard, especially as the Farish one might not arrive for year(s), but its good to know I have a back-up.
Incidentally, Farish website lists this a "Era 9", but I thought these were around under BR?
Skyline2uk
Quote from: mjkerr on March 16, 2013, 12:44:50 AM
I tend to ignore anything with a tension coupling (OO gauge) or two-three digit catalogue number
Farish have already started using the two-three digit number for some of their N gauge items, prefix is 42 for N instead of 44 for the ugly scale.
Quote from: Skyline2uk on March 16, 2013, 03:00:31 PMIncidentally, Farish website lists this a "Era 9", but I thought these were around under BR?
This is probably due to the current Overhead Warning Symbols, or other decals that will be applied
Quote from: whiteswan on March 16, 2013, 06:04:31 PMFarish have already started using the two-three digit number for some of their N gauge items, prefix is 42 for N instead of 44 for the ugly scale.
I can't see in the current stock list, they are all three-three format
Quote from: mjkerr on March 16, 2013, 06:54:36 PM
Quote from: whiteswan on March 16, 2013, 06:04:31 PMFarish have already started using the two-three digit number for some of their N gauge items, prefix is 42 for N instead of 44 for the ugly scale.
I can't see in the current stock list, they are all three-three format
They've started to use it for the new Scenecraft range see http://www.grahamfarish.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=scraftn&prod=1 (http://www.grahamfarish.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=scraftn&prod=1)
Wow, I have just scared myself, went through the lists and added to my pre order the diesels I need and it came to a very quick $1300plus before postage.
Bart
Quote from: 1936ace on March 17, 2013, 10:44:34 AM
Wow, I have just scared myself, went through the lists and added to my pre order the diesels I need and it came to a very quick $1300plus before postage.
Bart
Hi Bart, Not familiar with the Aus$-GBP£ exchange rate. What is that in £?
Hope you are well mate :thumbsup:
Quote from: 1936ace on March 17, 2013, 10:44:34 AM
Wow, I have just scared myself, went through the lists and added to my pre order the diesels I need and it came to a very quick $1300plus before postage.
Bart
Just as well the releases will be spread over the next 2 years eh, Bart?
I have the same problem :-[
That's a relief for sure I'm ordering a 08,22,25,27,31,33,52 and 50. I was wanting in the large logo a 37,47 and a 50 but I think that might be stretching the rubbery wallet too much. Then again I could always send the kids to the local school and I could have one of everything, I know little zac would be happy but I don't think the two big ones would be impressed
Bart
I only want four items, but the total probably comes to about the same!
Lots of renumbeing and renaming to be done...
i've not pre-ordered anything yet, but no hurry as they wont be out for at least another year...
it's a shame no new class 40 was announced like in OO.
tim
An updated 40 would have been nice, but they can only do so much. Maybe next time with the 40. Does anyone know what type headcode 45024 will have ?
The retooled oo gauge 40 is due out soon so i would expect it to come along in the next years annoucement as its a simply size reduction job. Assuming they do a good job on it however!
Richard
ok so its not quite as straight forward as but it can be done. 108 dmu and class 20 spring to mind.
Richard
hey owl,
well right now it is 69.37 pence to our dollar. heaps better then a few years ago with it was 40. it was 894pounds.
yes feeling heaps better, shame im at work right now 2 down just 12 hours until shift finished.
Bart
Gaugemaster have made a bit of a boo-boo with one of the new releases
http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GF371-679&style=&strType=&Mcode=Graham%20Farish%20371-679 (http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GF371-679&style=&strType=&Mcode=Graham%20Farish%20371-679)
:oopssign:
:laughabovepost:
Even I know that's not the correct colour worm!
Skyline2uk
and has that 4 car train got 5 cars........................................... :hmmm:
If they'd have brought out a 222 in East Midlands, I'd have bought one like a shot.
MRE Mag reports today that the first of the Mk1 Sleeping cars has left china
374-927 BR Mk1 sleeping car (2nd class) in BR blue & grey livery as No.E3575.
This model fits era 6/7 and the rrp is £22.80
Class 55. Just had an email from Hattons to say this is delayed until May/June.
Quote from: ParkeNd on March 26, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Class 55. Just had an email from Hattons to say this is delayed until May/June.
Gives me more time to procrastinate and try to decide whether to go green or blue...
Further to the above, I got some emails from Hattons today re the MK1 Sleeper Coaches in Maroon - due "april to May" - and the A2 Pacifics - due "July to August".
Quote from: 1936ace on March 18, 2013, 06:27:04 AM
yes feeling heaps better, shame im at work right now 2 down just 12 hours until shift finished.
Bart
Hi Bart.
Do the Australian government know that slavery has been abolished (although many big companies are trying to bring it back) ?
Best regards,
Joe
it will soon be time for the 14/15 catalogue???
Shame there was nothing physical at Ally Pally to indicate progress on the Castle or Hawksworth coaches. A couple of EPs would have been nice. :(
Why not call the next catalogue the "2014 to sometime in the future when we get round to it edition" ! At least it would have some ring of truth to it and no one could complain anything was late !
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 26, 2014, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: 1936ace on March 18, 2013, 06:27:04 AM
yes feeling heaps better, shame im at work right now 2 down just 12 hours until shift finished.
Bart
Hi Bart.
Do the Australian government know that slavery has been abolished (although many big companies are trying to bring it back) ?
Best regards,
Joe
Nothing unusual in those hours, HGV drivers can legally do shifts up to 15 hours a day ;)
Paul
Quote from: Karhedron on March 26, 2014, 09:16:59 PM
Shame there was nothing physical at Ally Pally to indicate progress on the Castle or Hawksworth coaches. A couple of EPs would have been nice. :(
Can't do castles but EP's Hawksworth's are still available
:angel:
Not getting the new announcements until July to coinside with bachmann's 25 year anniversity.
Alistair
Quote from: Sprintex on March 26, 2014, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 26, 2014, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: 1936ace on March 18, 2013, 06:27:04 AM
yes feeling heaps better, shame im at work right now 2 down just 12 hours until shift finished.
Bart
Do the Australian government know that slavery has been abolished (although many big companies are trying to bring it back) ?
Nothing unusual in those hours, HGV drivers can legally do shifts up to 15 hours a day ;)
So that leaves 9 hours for sleeping, eating, washing, relaxing. As I said, beware - slavery is coming back into fashion.
Regards,
Joe
Quote from: Sprintex on March 26, 2014, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: joe cassidy on March 26, 2014, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: 1936ace on March 18, 2013, 06:27:04 AM
yes feeling heaps better, shame im at work right now 2 down just 12 hours until shift finished.
Bart
Hi Bart.
Do the Australian government know that slavery has been abolished (although many big companies are trying to bring it back) ?
Best regards,
Joe
Nothing unusual in those hours, HGV drivers can legally do shifts up to 15 hours a day ;)
Paul
...but the same regulations specify mandatory breaks after certain periods of work. See http://www.transportsfriend.org/hours/rest.html (http://www.transportsfriend.org/hours/rest.html) for futher information (if you're
really interested)...
Not a question of being 'interested', it's my daily duty at the moment until the job market picks up :D
Paul