4 new castings announced:-
Plaxton Panorama I coach - National Express
Guy Arab Utility bus - Southdown (1/148 scale rather than Farish scale)
Scania T cab curtainside artic - Eddie Stobart
Scania Topline cab curtainside artic - Eddie Stobart
The other announced items will be delivered over ther next few months. I am sure
there will be some complaints about no modern stuff (except the Scanias), no
cars, no light vans, no 3 wheelers, no bicycles, no motorcycles, no fire
engines, too many buses/coaches etc. though I could be wrong!
Thankful for what we are offered.
Mike
I personally am very grateful that they have done at least a couple of modern lorries. Its a start and shows some commitment to our scale.
The sales on these items will probably determine if future N Gauge models are produced so i hope its a sell out!
Any indication on RRP at this stage?
Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:
Hattons have the modern artics at £9 each, and the bus/coach at £5 each. RRP not quoted.
Mike
Available now, or pre order?
Thanks
Pre-order.
Mike
Quote from: OwL on January 24, 2013, 05:43:29 PM
I personally am very grateful that they have done at least a couple of modern lorries. Its a start and shows some commitment to our scale.
Yeah nice to see, shame they have to have THAT company on them! :thumbsdown:
Paul
Knowing OD, there will be lots of liveries to follow!!!
A most excellent announcement!
Simon
Quote from: Sprintex on January 24, 2013, 09:11:19 PM
Quote from: OwL on January 24, 2013, 05:43:29 PM
I personally am very grateful that they have done at least a couple of modern lorries. Its a start and shows some commitment to our scale.
Yeah nice to see, shame they have to have THAT company on them! :thumbsdown:
Paul
Love it or hate it, thats part of the modern scene mate, and a replica of life on the motorways!
Well if their commitment to us depends on sales I'll be buying 2 of each of the scanias at least, if they are out of my timescale then artistic license will be employed, they won't all stay stobart tho,,,,,
As a (ducks... Stobart Club member... Gets up again) too, I'll be having a few lorries if they're N gauge, and a few coaches. Got about 5 of the other modern coaches and they're great models. The detail on the Farish Atlantian and National are great but the size puts me off buying any more, only got one of each as a starter, and was gutted.
Happy chappie Timmo
Look forward to the Guy Arab ;)
As much as I appreciate Oxfords latest offerings in N Gauge, I'm still disappointed to see no 70's or 80's vehicles, so still no Sierras, Fiestas, Chevettes etc. :veryangry: :veryangry:
Maybe we should all do what Richard from NTastic has suggested and email lobby them to produce some.
Regards
Neal.
Neal. I know the lobbying works as I have had some success with 00 range. The key is not just to say "I want....." but to provide some images, drawings, a short history of the specific vehicle, or something like that. That demonstrates that the suggestion is one you are committed to and prepared to put some effort in to achieve. Worked for me and one of those castings is coming along in N too. I have six models I can claim I was instrumental in getting made by EFE and Oxford Diecast. Blanket emailing with "wishlists" just clogs up peoples' Inboxes when they are trying to create new products.
Mike
I think block emails might be a good idea, it does seem that the modern 70s 80s 90s and 00s get bypassed in N gauge vehicle terms. I know the Japanese are producing up to date vehicles, but you don't find them in the local model shops, you have to search the webby thingy for them, and that's not possible sometimes.
Please Oxford???
Now going back a bit here, but when I was a kid my mates and I used to go into the car dealerships on Saturday afternoons from school and ask for posters and brochures of the new cars. I remember the brochures used to have dimensioned drawings of the cars in the back. Do they still do this?
It would be an easy start to get Oxford and others the drawings.
Just a thought. Timmo
"cough" plenty of 70's and 80's cars in the local scrap yard, would be easy some laser scanned....
strange they all look like 24"x18"x18" cuboids......
* The Panorama I (1959 - 70 although updated in 64) is of interest but is it the 2 or 3 axle version?
* The Scania Topline is very welcome and should be easy enough to repaint.
* I don't recall ever seeing a Stobard Scania T cab - so perhaps they're not that common and an odd choice especially as they're also doing the Topline, but I guess they'll have the same trailer.
* Isn't the Guy Arab Utility a duplicate of the recent Farish version? Sure it will hopefully be to the correct 1:148 scale but being a metal lump it's very unlikely to be as crisp and finely detailed as the Farish version - but we shall see. However, IMO a Leyland Titan (made 1977 - 84 but lasting a lot longer) would have been a better bet.
But as Carnefoxile says, its dissappointing that there are still no 70s and 80s iconic British cars announced or planned. I agree that perhaps we should lobby - clogging up their inbox would at least demonstrate a demand.
H.
* I don't recall ever seeing a Stobard Scania T cab - so perhaps they're not that common and an odd choice especially as they're also doing the Topline, but I guess they'll have the same trailer.
Hello H,
The Scania T Cab was called Kerry Jane with registration S777 ESL. She was mainly used for exhibitions/shows. I did see her once on the M6. I assume she still exists somewhere. She has been reproduced by Corgi in various scales. There are also a couple of different sized radio contolled models of Kerry Jane with a curtainside trailer. Mine's in the loft somewhere!
Cheers,
Flounder
Woo hoo, I'm not the only Stobart fan Flounder ....
Ummmmmm.... I accidentally broke cover there! :D
Quote from: Flounder on January 26, 2013, 11:12:27 AM
The Scania T Cab was called Kerry Jane with registration S777 ESL. She was mainly used for exhibitions/shows. I did see her once on the M6. I assume she still exists somewhere.
Thanks for that info, but that sounds like the Scania T cab is just a one-off and therefore very rare and hardly common on our roads. IMO that doesn't make it a very suitable choice (unless there are other Scania T cab rigs around).
Come on Oxford DC, you can do better by choosing from the more common and iconic British vehicles (which are likely to sell better and in quantity by customers) and let the Stobard Spotters Club commission such one-offs. For example I'd certainly buy quite a few Ford Escorts but I'm very unlikely to buy even one Stobard T cab.
H.
H. Picking up on your two posts above.
I think that by choosing the Eddie Stobart livery the models will have a larger appeal than just some other haulier's colours. Oxford have Stobart licences, and are already producing a Stobart collection for Atlas editions in 00 scale. If they sell well that helps amortise the investment cost more quickly. Maybe the next one will then be a 2 or 3 axle rigid or cattle truck or horsebox or tanker as exist already in the 00 range. OD's policy seems to be to launch many of the commercial vehicle castings in Stobart livery and then to introduce them in the general range often as plain colours with no signwriting, so one less aspect to be dissatisfied with.
On the Scania T it is used by quite a lot of hauliers often with bulk trailers for denser products where its extra length does not compromise payload, and for low loaders for very heavy equipment where special licence conditions apply. A Google search provides some knowledge. Would you like a bulk powder trailer, or a low loader?
The Plaxton Panorama 1 is a 2 axle version as fitted to many "heavyweight chassis" (AEC, Leyland, etc.). The 3 axle one was comparatively rare and usually came on a Bedford chassis in a Chinese Six wheel arrangement i.e. twin steering axles at the front and single axle at the rear. Pictures from the new catalogue show the Panorama as a Ribble one - see the Oxford Diecast Collectors Facebook page if you are interested.
I would not be surprised if the Guy Arab Utility turns out to be largely plastic like the recent Plaxton Elite coach. The real buses had almost flush glazing because the window pillars were such thin timber which might influence the design of the moulding. AFAIK the Farish Guy and Leyland PD2 have not been released.
I agree that some considered lobbying for vehicles to suit specialised eras might encourage Oxford. From the posts here and elsewhere it would seem that everybody wants something different as a top priority so I am not sure what OD would glean from random wishlisting.
The most fruitful route would be to choose specific castings already in the 00 range and lobby for the ones which are most wanted in N first. Cars, light vans, small rigid commercials are there aplenty in 1/76 scale.
So who would reject a Ford Transit van (Mk1 is in the 00 range as well as the latest model)? Who would reject a modern fire pump ladder appliance? What about the Mk1 Escort you mentioned or the current version of the Vauxhall Corsa which is now coming in 1/76?
Mike
Quote from: woodbury22uk on January 26, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
On the Scania T it is used by quite a lot of hauliers often with bulk trailers for denser products where its extra length does not compromise payload, and for low loaders for very heavy equipment where special licence conditions apply.
So it does sound rather rare and unusal - I've certainly not seen any on the roads - making it not the best of choices by Oxford
Quote from: woodbury22uk on January 26, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
So who would reject a Ford Transit van (Mk1 is in the 00 range as well as the latest model)? Who would reject a modern fire pump ladder appliance? What about the Mk1 Escort you mentioned or the current version of the Vauxhall Corsa which is now coming in 1/76?
The Corsa is rather recent and not really from the 'forgotten era' of 70s, 80s and 90s. Jet Flame produce a very nice Scania fire engine and Parker already produce a decent SWB and LWB trannie, so other more iconic vehicles would be better like Fiestas, Escorts, Capris, Granadas Chevettes, Novas, Cavalliers . . . . .
H.
Quote from: H on January 26, 2013, 02:30:04 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on January 26, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
On the Scania T it is used by quite a lot of hauliers often with bulk trailers for denser products where its extra length does not compromise payload, and for low loaders for very heavy equipment where special licence conditions apply.
So it does sound rather rare and unusal - I've certainly not seen any on the roads - making it not the best of choices by Oxford
The biggest user of T-cab Scannies was Cyril Knowles in the 80s and early 90s for bulk cement, then they were taken over by Civil & Marine with the same trucks and they're still using T-cabs today. Sadly not for long I'd guess as Scania have ceased production :(
Having said that, even spending all day tramping around the motorway network like I do you can go weeks without seeing a T-cab, so hardly a common sight as Grahame rightly said!
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on January 26, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
The biggest user of T-cab Scannies was Cyril Knowles
Not the old Spurs player? Nice one. :D
H.
Quote from: H on January 26, 2013, 11:00:54 AM
* The Panorama I (1959 - 70 although updated in 64) is of interest but is it the 2 or 3 axle version?
If the drawing is accurate, then this will be the two axle 1964-66 version (66-8 very similar). After 1968 it was replaced by the Panorama Elite which had curved side windows with rounded corners, flush (save the rubber beading) to the sides.
Quote from: H on January 26, 2013, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on January 26, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
The biggest user of T-cab Scannies was Cyril Knowles
Not the old Spurs player? Nice one. :D
H.
"Let's ave a nuvva one"
Nice one H!! (or should that be nice one son...)
I hope I'm not the only one to recognize such an obscure 1970s footballing reference!
February releases shown on page 6 in the new edition of the Globe available to view here:-
http://media.solnet.co.uk/oxford/globe157/files/globe%20157%20ebook.pdf (http://media.solnet.co.uk/oxford/globe157/files/globe%20157%20ebook.pdf)
Mike
Quote from: Calnefoxile on January 25, 2013, 01:05:06 PM
As much as I appreciate Oxfords latest offerings in N Gauge, I'm still disappointed to see no 70's or 80's vehicles, so still no Sierras, Fiestas, Chevettes etc. :veryangry: :veryangry:
Maybe we should all do what Richard from NTastic has suggested and email lobby them to produce some.
Regards
Neal.
Couldn't agree more. We need more late 60's and 70's motors :NGaugersRule:
Quote from: justintime on February 07, 2013, 11:38:34 AM
Maybe we should all do what Richard from NTastic has suggested and email lobby them to produce some.
Regards
Neal.
Couldn't agree more. We need more late 60's and 70's motors :NGaugersRule:
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I know it is human nature to campaign for personal favourites as long as someone else is footing the investment bill.
I believe there are two things people need to bear in mind:-
1) A list of "I want" emails will not produce a convincing picture to Oxford Diecast. Agree on which make and model of car you would like to see and propose
one that will make money for OD.
2) Realise that you are competing against other modellers and models for attention. Have your persuasive arguments ready to justify that this
one car will support 4 to 6 colour variations, and is a better money making opportunity than the re-livery of a bus.
Get those two right and you will be a trusted source of suggestions for OD, and can then build a bigger range in the same way.
As for complaints about no Sierra - Wiking have had one in their range for over 20 years in 1/160 scale. Is the size more important than the make?
Mike
Wouldn't 1:160 look odd against 1:148 or is the difference insignificant?
Quote from: justintime on February 07, 2013, 01:10:13 PM
Wouldn't 1:160 look odd against 1:148 or is the difference insignificant?
A 15 foot long car is 28.58mm long in 1/160 scale and 30.89mm long in 1/148 scale. The difference is less than the typical jump a passenger needs to make between two coaches in their as delivered condition.
I'd love to see a comprehensive range of British operated cars, light vans, rigid trucks etc. in 1/148 scale. But crying in my pram will not make that happen. From my own experience a co-ordinated approach to a manufacturer with supporting documentation works. We have been bleating about a generalised need for 1970 - 1990 cars for years and the crying has not been heard. If there is anyone who would like to change that then an adult approach which would support a business case is likely to have a better result. At 1/148 scale we operate in a unique environment so it is much harder to make a case than for 1/160 scale, or even 1/150 scale. But the range of modern cars in those scales with a larger following is already quite small. Can all the manufacturers be wrong? if so they will need some convincing to change their plans. It is interesting that Oxford Diecast's older cars appear on quite a number of continental N layouts I have seen recently.
Mike
Quote from: justintime on February 07, 2013, 01:10:13 PM
Wouldn't 1:160 look odd against 1:148 or is the difference insignificant?
My guess is you would get away with a vehicle placed on a road on its own.
The difference is very noticable when you have a 1:160 loco next to a 1:148 loco, it is like little and large :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
cheers John.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 07, 2013, 01:28:25 PM
A 15 foot long car is 28.58mm long in 1/160 scale and 30.89mm long in 1/148 scale. The difference is less than the typical jump a passenger needs to make between two coaches in their as delivered condition.
That is more than a scale foot out. It's the wrong scale and is too small, and looks silly up against correctly 1:148 scaled equivalent saloon cars.
Why should we have to put up with models in incorrect scales. If people want things produced to 1:148 why deny them that desire.
Also I can see no evidence of anyone crying in their pram - claiming or suggesting that people who have posted are do such things is rather offensive. But I do agree that a co-ordinated professional busines case and approach would be best.
H.
Quote from: H on February 07, 2013, 01:54:35 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 07, 2013, 01:28:25 PM
A 15 foot long car is 28.58mm long in 1/160 scale and 30.89mm long in 1/148 scale. The difference is less than the typical jump a passenger needs to make between two coaches in their as delivered condition.
That is more than a scale foot out. It's the wrong scale and is too small, and looks silly up against correctly 1:148 scaled equivalent saloon cars.
Why should we have to put up with models in incorrect scales. If people want things produced to 1:148 why deny them that desire.
Also I can see no evidence of anyone crying in their pram - claiming or suggesting that people who have posted are do such things is rather offensive. But I do agree that a co-ordinated professional busines case and approach would be best.
H.
The point is H that there are few if any 1/148 scale cars of quality to put them against.
I am sorry if the expression "crying" caused offence. Maybe I could have misinterpreted the anger and frustration smileys in some of the earlier posts. But please note I did say "crying in my pram". And I am not offended.
Glad you support the business case approach anyway, which was really the thrust of my post.
Mike
I think you are being a bit harsh with your comments Mike. Neal just made a suggestion and I agreed that we could do with more cars etc from the 60's and 70's. No body mentioned bleating on, chucking their toys out of the pram or bombarding Oxford with nonsense emails. :no: It was just an innocent comment on a friendly forum :thumbsup:
Quote from: justintime on February 07, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
I think you are being a bit harsh with your comments Mike. Neal just made a suggestion and I agreed that we could do with more cars etc from the 60's and 70's. No body mentioned bleating on, chucking their toys out of the pram or bombarding Oxford with nonsense emails. :no: It was just an innocent comment on a friendly forum :thumbsup:
:thankyousign: Understood. Seems we are all on the same page then. :claphappy:
Mike
I certainly hope so ;)
Personally I just thought Mike was referring to himself, not the forum at large :no:
I would guess that 1/160 vehicles could possible be used at the rear of the layout to promote distance but I certainly would not put them close to 1/148 scale ones
Quote from: newportnobby on February 07, 2013, 06:45:26 PM
I would guess that 1/160 vehicles could possible be used at the rear of the layout to promote distance
That won't work unless everything around that car is also to the smaller 1:160 scale including the road, the street furniture, other vehicles, the buildings behind, any trains that pass close by, and so on.
H.
Quote from: H on February 07, 2013, 06:52:41 PM
That won't work unless everything around that car is also to the smaller 1:160 scale including the road, the street furniture, other vehicles, the buildings behind, any trains that pass close by, and so on.
Or if anything close but in front of the 1:160 area is separated by a fence or similar such that you cannot see a contiguous ground level. With care that causes your eyes to simply fill in the distance and assume they are not as close as is the case
(It's the same reason that putting a fence a few mm in front of scaled down backscene buildings gives the impression of depth providing you don't look too hard)
Alan
There's only one thing to add here..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0)
Quote from: Karyn on February 07, 2013, 09:00:28 PM
There's only one thing to add here..
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0)
Mobile link, doesn't work on a PC or laptop ;)
Here's the link for us conventional users :D
Father Ted: 'Small' vs 'Far Away' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0#)
Classic comedy :thumbsup:
Paul
New Oxford Diecast cars etc which I've seen advertised this week .......2 cv , old style mini , VW beetle (old style) , VW campervan variants & VW pickup . Ric
Quote from: Bigric on February 08, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
New Oxford Diecast cars etc which I've seen advertised this week .......2 cv , old style mini , VW beetle (old style) , VW campervan variants & VW pickup . Ric
Where were they advertised please?
Quote from: Bigric on February 08, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
New Oxford Diecast cars etc which I've seen advertised this week .......2 cv , old style mini , VW beetle (old style) , VW campervan variants & VW pickup . Ric
These are the 1/76 scale ones AFAIK.
Mike
ok Mike, thank you. :(
That's the annoying thing - when you see the vast range they do in 1/76 it makes the N gauge offerings all the more pathetic >:(
Paul
Kernow Model Centre !! Happy spending !!! Ric
Oops , sorry if I've misled people....they are in the n gauge section , with Oxford Diecast n gauge codes . What can you do ??? Ric
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 08, 2013, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: Bigric on February 08, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
New Oxford Diecast cars etc which I've seen advertised this week .......2 cv , old style mini , VW beetle (old style) , VW campervan variants & VW pickup . Ric
These are the 1/76 scale ones AFAIK.
Mike
Best tell Oxford that, as per this link they are listed on their own website as being 1:148. http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/eras/1_148_1970__Current.htm (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/eras/1_148_1970__Current.htm)
Ollie
Quote from: Ollie3440 on February 08, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 08, 2013, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: Bigric on February 08, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
New Oxford Diecast cars etc which I've seen advertised this week .......2 cv , old style mini , VW beetle (old style) , VW campervan variants & VW pickup . Ric
These are the 1/76 scale ones AFAIK.
Mike
Best tell Oxford that, as per this link they are listed on their own website as being 1:148. http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/eras/1_148_1970__Current.htm (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/eras/1_148_1970__Current.htm) (Most are down the end of the list)
Ollie
Ooooh, Herbie :) I could use one of those...
They are in N Gauge, but not yet released. I am not sure when they will arrive add they have been announced for over a year now.
Quote from: NtasticShop on February 09, 2013, 08:09:11 AM
They are in N Gauge, but not yet released. I am not sure when they will arrive add they have been announced for over a year now.
I agree with Richard
I have a booklet from last year with them in :o
And people call Dapol and Farish for late releases :D
dave :thumbsup:
Clever marketing when you think about it.
Create a buzz about new models in the pipeline at the very beginning and then when they do come to market we are all eagerly waiting with our wallets poised! :drool:
The new oxford catalogue is avaiable on line at:-
http://media.solnet.co.uk/oxford/feb-may-2013/files/od%20feb-may%2013%20ebook.pdf (http://media.solnet.co.uk/oxford/feb-may-2013/files/od%20feb-may%2013%20ebook.pdf)
The N items are on pages 33 to 40. Good to see a couple of current cars in the 1/76 line-up - Vauxhall Corsa and Bentley Mulsanne.
Mike
Couple more Toy Show pictures here showing unreleased castings in 1/148.
VW Minibus, Citroen 2CV, Ferguson Tractor, Fordson Tractor, Bedford removals lorry, and the raw casting for the Bristol Lodekka before amendment and polishing.
http://www.modellbus.info/swm_2013_oxford_05%20Kopie.jpg (http://www.modellbus.info/swm_2013_oxford_05%20Kopie.jpg)
http://www.modellbus.info/swm_2013_oxford_04%20Kopie.jpg (http://www.modellbus.info/swm_2013_oxford_04%20Kopie.jpg)
Mike
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 12, 2013, 09:35:08 AM
Couple more Toy Show pictures here showing unreleased castings in 1/148.
VW Minibus, Citroen 2CV, Ferguson Tractor, Fordson Tractor, Bedford removals lorry, and the raw casting for the Bristol Lodekka before amendment and polishing.
These were promosed ages ago and scheduled for release in 2012. The VW was shown as to be available in minibus and pick up versions and there was also an Austin Mini in the line-up. What has happened to them?
H.
Quote from: H on February 12, 2013, 09:44:02 AM
These were promosed ages ago and scheduled for release in 2012. The VW was shown as to be available in minibus and pick up versions and there was also an Austin Mini in the line-up. What has happened to them?
H.
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These are probably in the next picture the photographer took but decided not to publish. :)
I suppose you could always ask Oxford Diecast or rely on the revised dates in the new catalogue as linked in an earlier post.
Mike
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 12, 2013, 09:57:56 AM
I suppose you could always ask Oxford Diecast or rely on the revised dates in the new catalogue as linked in an earlier post.
It's a rhetorical question. There'd be little point in asking Oxford as so far all their published information about sheduled release dates has been wrong. :(
H.
Grahame
Is there a smiley for rhetorical?
Mike
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 12, 2013, 10:09:45 AM
Is there a smiley for rhetorical?
I was wondering . . . .
H.
I have had am email today from Oxford blaming the unexpected Chinese New Year for the delay. Now they reckon some of if not all the missing items will be in March.
Chinese New Year happens every year doesn't it??? Come on Oxford, you can do better than that...
Quote from: pape_timmo on February 12, 2013, 11:56:05 AM
Chinese New Year happens every year doesn't it??? Come on Oxford, you can do better than that...
. . . yep, . . . and it might excuse a delay this year, but that stuff was due last year (presumably after the Chinese New Year break).
H.
This is gonna sound a bit of a rant, but its meant with the best intentions...
If you are going to send production across the world then surely you should do your homework, and plan for production scales, times and schedules and work accordingly as a business. The models coming out of China are far above the detail and quality levels that were available 20 years ago, but blaming the Chinese New Year, or the factory's other product runs for delays is not really on. As a business, this must have been planned around and advised in planning sessions, so come on, lets have accurate information without excuses.
On the quality issue, I've been really lucky so far in that I've bought thousands of pounds worth of locos coaches and wagons from both Farish and Dapol, and I've had no problems with any of them. Oh, sorry, 1 split gear on a FGW 57. But reading the comments on here and other groups, the Quality Control needs to improve. You'll turn people away if they get dogs all the time.
Cheers. Timmo
Quote from: pape_timmo on February 12, 2013, 12:12:32 PM
If you are going to send production across the world then surely you should do your homework, and plan for production scales, times and schedules and work accordingly as a business.
The trouble is you've got a choice for a lot of this stuff. Your choices are "make it in China" and "Oh sorry nobody in the UK has the skills or tools"
Plus you have the peculiarly British problem when trying to get anything done over here. The "not interested, don't care" response of most UK businesses to anything the slightest different to the usual.
That one drives me *nuts*. Most of the US businesses I deal with the attitude is 'We could do that, it might be expensive, lets see if we can figure something that works for us both". Over here for most companies its "We don't do that" , "I don't have authority to make that decision", "I'll call you back" (never doing so).
There are exceptions but too few (Kudos to Dapol who when I phoned up wanting a batch of Gresley bogies simply said yes and figured out how to get it done)
Alan
I agree we have a limited choose and a UKwide 'no can do' attitude. It's a sad reality here that production had to move to China. Full credit to Farish, Dapol, Bachmann, Hornby and all other manufacturers that have taken the bold step. All I'm asking is please, for everyone, improve quality control, and set realistic dates. That's not too much to ask, surely?
Like I said in my previous post, I've been really lucky on the quality front, and I don't plan to have specific models at certain dates, I buy them as they come.
Cheers, Timmo
Quote from: pape_timmo on February 12, 2013, 04:00:17 PM
All I'm asking is please, for everyone, improve quality control, and set realistic dates. That's not too much to ask, surely
At current pricing it won't happen. If you want to hit dates reliably then you need a fast turn around when there is a problem. You don't get that via China (Bachmann perhaps is a bit different as they are the reverse - it's an outsourced marketing/design arm of a Chinese company)
If you want quality and priority in production slots you have to pay more (on top of the already exploding Chinese prices). For plastic models the cost is massively dominated by once off costs not per unit costs.
You've got a small market, selling to what are by European scales, a bunch of price sensitive low spenders, and products that have almost no non UK market.
The US market is also "price sensitive" but with much much bigger volume. The mainland Europeans expect higher quality but will pay for it.
On the bright side 8) the market analysis for many businesses is saying that the next few years the cost of dealing with China (shipping, customs, banging heads on walls, etc) will exceed the savings on making stuff there. It's already begun to happen in a few markets.
Who knows maybe in five years time Dapol will be shifting more production back to their UK factory.... ?
Going to go a bit OT here, but over on the DEMU forum there was also a discussion about Oxfords OO releases and the usual suspects bemoaning the lack of N gauge versions (i.e. Me :-[ :-[ ) well anyway Adam Warr mentioned that someone on Shapeways had done a 3d print of a Maestro, anyway here's the link http://www.shapeways.com/model/378270/nam01-1-148-austin-maestro.html (http://www.shapeways.com/model/378270/nam01-1-148-austin-maestro.html)
Maybe one of the 3d experts on here could look at doing other vehicles using the 3D printing technique. ;) ;)
Regards
Neal.
Photos of the forthcoming VW van, camper,pick up and minibuses.
https://picasaweb.google.com/101142231372810920180/ModelautoKrantNeurenberg2013A#5842006469652279954
https://picasaweb.google.com/101142231372810920180/ModelautoKrantNeurenberg2013A#5842006332570107186
https://picasaweb.google.com/101142231372810920180/ModelautoKrantNeurenberg2013A#5842006207774965154
https://picasaweb.google.com/101142231372810920180/ModelautoKrantNeurenberg2013A#5842005362946964818
Mike
Just two N gauge releases for April 2013 - Leyland PD3 "British Shoe Corporation" suitable for the Leicester area in the late 1960s - early 1970s, and an RF single decker in late pre-NBC Green Line livery for about the same period.
http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showcat.asp?cat=58&jump=3 (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showcat.asp?cat=58&jump=3)
http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showitem.asp?id=3253 (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showitem.asp?id=3253)
http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showitem.asp?id=3252 (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showitem.asp?id=3252)
Mike
"It's a man's life in the British Shoe Corporation!" :claphappy:
Quote from: captainelectra on April 02, 2013, 07:38:46 PM
"It's a man's life in the British Shoe Corporation!" :claphappy:
What a load of cobblers :D
Considering the popularity of GWR/WR layouts, there does seem to be a preponderance of London buses :(
I like the Oxford Topgear models. Not N Gauge but neat all the same.
Quote from: newportnobby on April 02, 2013, 08:13:35 PM
there does seem to be a preponderance of London buses :(
There's nothing preponderous about London buses. They turn up regularly and are quite spritely. :D
But what has happened to the backlog of ODC announcements and promises, including those due last year? The Chinese new year must have come and gone by now, so that excuse is now exhausted. What's the latest one?
Perhaps they are like most non-London bus services - you wait for ages in the hope of something, but it never turns up. ;)
H.
Quote from: H on April 02, 2013, 08:54:24 PM
Perhaps they are like most non-London bus services - you wait for ages in the hope of something, but it never turns up. ;)
Or it turns up late and you discover the price has doubled.....
Quote from: H on April 02, 2013, 08:54:24 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 02, 2013, 08:13:35 PM
there does seem to be a preponderance of London buses :(
But what has happened to the backlog of ODC announcements and promises, including those due last year? The Chinese new year must have come and gone by now, so that excuse is now exhausted. What's the latest one?
H.
I heard on Monday that they are on the same ship as the Farish buses. :-*
Mike
Quote from: woodbury22uk on April 03, 2013, 07:15:23 PM
I heard on Monday that they are on the same ship as the Farish buses. :-*
Let's hope that they're not both on a bus for delivery - we could be waiting for ever.
H.
Wonder if this batch of farish buses will be variable scale live the last lot
I have been in conversation with OD this year and the excuses keep changing.
Last I heard was the tooling is all done just not a priority for production, reading between the lines the N gauge range is not important.
They also have had trouble developing the market and sales are possible not what they had hoped for. I dolt much will come out before the summer.
Funnily enough Oxford Diecast are just round the corner from me so if they are delivered on a bus thats fine :beers:
Quote from: Calnefoxile on February 18, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Adam Warr mentioned that someone on Shapeways had done a 3d print of a Maestro,
Photos and review in
N'spirations10 - page 19.
It's a very neat model and to 1:148 scale, but there are some drawbacks;
* it's 3D printed so there's still the ridges/resolution issue (hopefully that will imporve over time),
* it needs painting (there's plenty who don't like painting)
* and there's no clear glazing to fit.
H.
Quote from: H on April 05, 2013, 08:51:56 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on February 18, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Adam Warr mentioned that someone on Shapeways had done a 3d print of a Maestro,
Photos and review in N'spirations10 - page 19.
It's a very neat model and to 1:148 scale, but there are some drawbacks;
* it's 3D printed so there's still the ridges/resolution issue (hopefully that will imporve over time),
* it needs painting (there's plenty who don't like painting)
* and there's no clear glazing to fit.
H.
And County Rolling Stock are selling rusting agent on the cheap so you can get that natural Maestro finish :D
Quote from: newportnobby on April 05, 2013, 01:10:19 PM
Quote from: H on April 05, 2013, 08:51:56 AM
Quote from: Calnefoxile on February 18, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Adam Warr mentioned that someone on Shapeways had done a 3d print of a Maestro,
Photos and review in N'spirations10 - page 19.
It's a very neat model and to 1:148 scale, but there are some drawbacks;
* it's 3D printed so there's still the ridges/resolution issue (hopefully that will imporve over time),
* it needs painting (there's plenty who don't like painting)
* and there's no clear glazing to fit.
H.
And County Rolling Stock are selling rusting agent on the cheap so you can get that natural Maestro finish :D
Hey, don't knock it. The rust was the only thing holding my Maestro together...
An updated list of the whole N gauge range can be seen here.
http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/eras/1_148_0__Current.htm (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/eras/1_148_0__Current.htm)
July releases are expected to include the first Citroen 2CV, Bristol Lodekka, Bedford Pantechnicon and another VW "van" variant. That will make 7 new castings released over June/July.
Two new castings have been added to the planned list (Foden FG 8 wheel flatbed, and Commer PB Postbus), but it seems like the backlog is now being addressed.
Eddie Stobart lorries! :jawdropping:
I am new to this hobby and considering how many Green/ BR blue diesels/ coaches there are and how popular the 70's/80's era seems be i'm surprised at the lack of corresponding road vehicles.
I'm in the market for any good vehicles for my layout, (Ford, British Leyland, Triumph, BMW, VW, Peugeot, Citroen, Renault, Fiat etc)
Maybe I'm off and this market is not as good as I think. All I know is i need in excess of 50 vehicles and maybe 100+
I was looking at the GF Leyland Atlantean bus too but apparently it's smaller than the 1:48 scale. May not matter if I only use GF buses of that era/size.
Your only options are the PD Marsh whitemetal 'blobs' that need painting, or keep scouring Ebay for Wiking/Herpa plastic models especially for BMW, Ford, VW, Citroen, etc. The latter are 1:160 so a little underscale but as long as you don't mix them with 1:148 models too much they will look OK ;)
Paul
Quote from: Tank on June 12, 2013, 01:32:38 PM
Eddie Stobart lorries! :jawdropping:
Who will be the first manufacturer will follow them up with a set of 'Eddie' spotters I wonder! :laugh:
Perfect for a model flyover cameo... ;)
Near where I live, there used to be a 3 wheeler Reliant van, done up in ES colours, with roof spoiler and "short vehicle" flashes on back. Could never find out who owned it (or owned up to owning it), and it has now disappeared - so no photos. :(
Don't need anyone to make Stobart spotters just use the Farish trainspotters p/n 379-314 instead.
I'll find my coat
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 07, 2013, 01:02:50 PMAs for complaints about no Sierra - Wiking have had one in their range for over 20 years in 1/160 scale. Is the size more important than the make?
Mike
Just dug one of these out and measured it. The real thing was 175.6" long (source Ford 1985 'Cars', though XR4x4 rather than XR4) or 4460mm. The model is 29.3mm long, so 1:152.2 or 2mm scale as near as makes no odds. I converted one to a standard 5 door - much more common!
Quote from: BernardTPM on June 16, 2013, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on February 07, 2013, 01:02:50 PMAs for complaints about no Sierra - Wiking have had one in their range for over 20 years in 1/160 scale. Is the size more important than the make?
Mike
Just dug one of these out and measured it. The real thing was 175.6" long (source Ford 1985 'Cars', though XR4x4 rather than XR4) or 4460mm. The model is 29.3mm long, so 1:152.2 or 2mm scale as near as makes no odds. I converted one to a standard 5 door - much more common!
Thanks for that Bernard. I had a 5 door 4x4 from 1988 to 1991. It went round corners like it was on rails.
Looking at the wide range of French cars on sale on Ebay at the moment, I wonder how many of these fit the 1970s/1980s period too. And possibly not too undersized for British N.
I must admit their range is a bit puzzling at times, various large horseboxes and numerous
landrovers in various colours. By the way does anyone have a hearse on their layout?
I would imagine that as modern cars become less distinctive in shape there may be
less modern stuff, eg Fiat 500, Nova, Punto , Megane etc.
What we need is a few Morgans which would cover the last 40 -50 years or even more if any
Morgan fans Know more.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on June 16, 2013, 11:53:31 PM
I had a 5 door 4x4 from 1988 to 1991. It went round corners like it was on rails.
Still got one, parked up awaiting a freshen-up before being supercharged (http://www.sprintexnet.co.uk/Images/driving%20smiley.gif)
Details and pics on my website if you're feeling nostalgic 8)
Paul
Quote from: Agrippa on June 17, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
What we need is a few Morgans which would cover the last 40 -50 years or even more if any
Morgan fans Know more.
3D printed and resin Morgans with two sellers on Ebay France.
http://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=morgan+resine+1%2F160&_sacat=0&_from=R40 (http://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=morgan+resine+1%2F160&_sacat=0&_from=R40)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOITURE-ANGLAISE-type-MORGAN-ROUGE-TOIT-BLEU-FEVE-PORCELAINE-3D-1-160-/140644282114?pt=FR_YO_Jeux_VehiculesMiniaturesCircuits_VehiculesMiniatures&hash=item20bf0d6f02 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOITURE-ANGLAISE-type-MORGAN-ROUGE-TOIT-BLEU-FEVE-PORCELAINE-3D-1-160-/140644282114?pt=FR_YO_Jeux_VehiculesMiniaturesCircuits_VehiculesMiniatures&hash=item20bf0d6f02)
Hi,
Quote from: Tank on June 12, 2013, 01:32:38 PM
Eddie Stobart lorries! :jawdropping:
Prompted by a post 'elsewhere' ;)
Oxford Diecast New Releases 2013/14 - N gauge models (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TpTadcbpSo#ws)
Regards, Gerry 8)
Another video posted today with close up shots of the Scania artics and the fully finished Lodekkas.
http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/Diecast-Collecting/News/Get-your-first-look-at-the-Oxford-Diecast-New-Releases/_ch26_nw846 (http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/Diecast-Collecting/News/Get-your-first-look-at-the-Oxford-Diecast-New-Releases/_ch26_nw846)
Quote from: woodbury22uk on June 28, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
Another video posted today with close up shots of ...... the fully finished Lodekkas.
Just need Stan, Jack and Blakey now! :D
I hate you Butler..... :D
STOBART !!!!!!!!! :jawdropping: :headbang:
Just now wondering how many ?
Stobart Schmobart , don't get it.
Hi,
Quote from: Agrippa on July 03, 2013, 12:22:33 AM
Stobart Schmobart , don't get it.
To paraphrase Jeanette Winterson; "Stobart are not the only road haulier" :smiley-laughing: They are, however, thanks to the media possibly the highest profile one in the UK and if it means we get modern road vehicles that we can adapt then I'm not going to fuss about it ;)
The view in their basic colour on the two vids sets my interweb image search into full gear for alternative decoration 8)
Regards, Gerry.
Quote from: Andy T on July 01, 2013, 10:20:53 PM
STOBART !!!!!!!!!
Just now wondering how many ?
Too many, FAR too many! ;)
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on July 03, 2013, 09:06:03 AM
..... FAR too .........
Far too, dee two. Must be talking Star Wars. :D
Still waiting for ODC stuff promised what seems like years ago like the Austin Mini, VW Beetle and Plaxton Pananrama I.
H.
Quote from: H on July 03, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
Quote from: Sprintex on July 03, 2013, 09:06:03 AM
..... FAR too .........
Still waiting for ODC stuff promised what seems like years ago like the Austin Mini, VW Beetle and Plaxton Pananrama I.
H.
No real need to worry Grahame. They are on the boat before the remaining 25 or so Scenecraft buses announced in March 2009 and still awaited. At least Oxford have shown the first castings of the Panorama announced in February 2013 (and the Guy Arab Utility), and have recently committed publicly to providing more factory capacity for the N gauge range. The Mini and the Beetle were first announced in February 2011, and I have not yet seen the mouldings for these.
http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/News/Oxford-Diecast-New-Releases-N-gauge-models/_nw843 (http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/News/Oxford-Diecast-New-Releases-N-gauge-models/_nw843)
Mike
Oxford have released photos of the first 3 Bristol Lodekkas which can be seen on the News page here:-
http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/ (http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/) in the item for Thursday 2nd July. Two extra colour schemes appropriate for Scotland and Bristol are also listed.
The thickness of the window pillars and the rear platform are very apparent in these enlarged views.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 03, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: H on July 03, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
Still waiting for ODC stuff promised what seems like years ago like the Austin Mini, VW Beetle and Plaxton Pananrama I.
No real need to worry Grahame. They are on the boat before the remaining 25 or so Scenecraft buses announced in March 2009 and still awaited. At least Oxford have shown the first castings of the Panorama announced in February 2013 (and the Guy Arab Utility), and have recently committed publicly to providing more factory capacity for the N gauge range. The Mini and the Beetle were first announced in February 2011, and I have not yet seen the mouldings for these.
They're probably on the boat that busted in half ; http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=14761.msg146787#msg146787 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=14761.msg146787#msg146787) :goggleeyes:
So the Mini and Beetle were announced almost two and a half years ago - and still no news, that's quite a poor showing. It's no good providing more factory capacity if they don't use it. :no:
Hopefully Farish won't waste any time on bothering to produce more undersized buses without starting afresh with an appropriate 1:148 scale rule. The first lot probably didn't sell very well so with luck they'll have got the message. :D
H.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 03, 2013, 06:15:31 PM
The thickness of the window pillars and the rear platform are very apparent in these enlarged views.
Yes, that is an unfortunate failing of ODC. I'm surprised they haven't done anything about this time around as the tiddly Farish buses showed it wasn't necessary.
H.
Quote from: H on July 03, 2013, 06:18:06 PM
Hopefully Farish won't waste any time on bothering to produce more undersized buses without starting afresh with an appropriate 1:148 scale rule. The first lot probably didn't sell very well so with luck they'll have got the message. :D
H.
They were still showing in the online catalogue listing this morning, some even with delivery dates against them!
Their plastic construction allows much slimmer window pillars than Oxford's metal bodies. As far as I can tell the Oxford Guy Arab will perpetuate the cast metal body, but the Panorama I coach will follow the Elite coach with more plastic and absolutely flush glazing with no prism effect.
The attraction of the Farish models is that they are much easier to chop than metal castings. Maybe they are resizing them. I hope so. Making lowbridge Utility buses from a Farish moulding would be much more likely to work than taking the saw to an Oxford casting.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 03, 2013, 06:45:45 PM
Their plastic construction allows much slimmer window pillars than Oxford's metal bodies. As far as I can tell the Oxford Guy Arab will perpetuate the cast metal body, but the Panorama I coach will follow the Elite coach with more plastic and absolutely flush glazing with no prism effect.
The attraction of the Farish models is that they are much easier to chop than metal castings. Maybe they are resizing them. I hope so. Making lowbridge Utility buses from a Farish moulding would be much more likely to work than taking the saw to an Oxford casting.
It's not the thickness/width of the window pillars but the depth of them, with the glazing then placed so far behind the outer surface that it makes it look like the windows have ledges deep enough to accommodate window boxes in which you could grow enough to compete with an average sized allotment. ODC could easily improve the look by moulding the plastic glazing to fit and be more appropriately 'flush' glazed. Plus there is no reason for the rear boarding platform to be that thick - even in die-cast metal.
I'm looking forward to the Plaxton Panorama - if it is the same construction as the Elite it should be far better than the other buses. It's a shame that they've taken so long and still have nothing to show. And a shame they haven't made other buses to the same higher standard of the Elite.
Yep, plastic is easier to chop about - but its going to take a massive amount of chopping effort to enlarge the Farish models so they are the correct scale width, length and height. It certainly would be nice if they correctly resized them but I think it's unlikely.
H.
The 2CV model has arrived at A and H models - also the VW vans
The 2CV is a beauty!
Quote from: Railwaygun on July 03, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
The 2CV is a beauty!
The model might be good, but the old Citroen deux Chevaux-vapeur (2CV) has never been considered beautiful. :D
H.
Managed to pick up a new ODC 2CV and VW Type 2 (camper van) today.
The 'VW Type 2' is a little beauty - very nicely flush glazed and finished (lights and handles picked out with paint very neatly), and mine has a pair of surf boards and rack on the roof (although the boards need painting).
Unfortunately it's not the original iconic 'VW Type 2' (T1 variant) with split windscreen and swept down vee panel on the front. Its one of the second generation 'VW Type 2' vans without the split screen know as a T2 and is the pre-face lifted version T2a built between 1968 and 1971 with low front indicators. The T2b had waist level indicators above the headlights and the T2c a higher roof which lasted until the T3 version 'VW Type 2' in 1980 which was the last 'VW Type 2' as the T4 variant was branded VW Transporter.
H.
Just received the Bedford O series furniture removals lorry. This is flush glazed and the cab has the potential for other models. The model's cab and body are completely plastic. There is a diecast metal chassis which includes the front mudguards. The chassis could be adapted to accept other body set ups. The body is a bit too low slung for my liking so I will be putting in a 1mm+ plastic spacer between chassis and body to raise it a bit.
Crikey H,with information on specific versions of the veedub type 2,you come across as something of an afficianado of the air cooled van and perhaps car scene.
Obviously VW produced many variants of the type 2 van,which to those of us that aren't really interested in the aircooled veedub scene is mind boggling.Only now are the other van manufacturers producing many variants of the same basic model.They certainly had the foresight to produce these as far back as they did,didn't they?
Pete
:Class31: :Class37: :NGaugersRule:
The new releases from Oxford Diecast now being distributed are:-
NBL001 Bristol Lodekka - Crosville
NVW004 VW Camper - red (4th bodystyle on the VW)
NCT002 Citroen 2CV - Charleston - Yellow/Black
NBP002 Bedford O Pantechnicon - Pickfords
NTEA002 Ferguson Tractor - red
September releases are :-
NBP003 Bedford O Removals van - Padfields
NVW005 VW van - Senegal Red
NVW006 VW pickup Emerald Green/Arcona White
NVW007 VW minibus Birch Green/White
NVW008 VW Camper Marino Yellow/White
A sign that OD are catching up with the backlog of planned releases is that there are 9 new castings this month in 1/76 and 1/43. Roll on the next phase of N new castings too.
Edited to include one extra new item, and correct the number of new castings.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 04, 2013, 07:48:07 PM
Just received the Bedford O series furniture removals lorry. This is flush glazed and the cab has the potential for other models. The model's cab and body are completely plastic. There is a diecast metal chassis which includes the front mudguards. The chassis could be adapted to accept other body set ups. The body is a bit too low slung for my liking so I will be putting in a 1mm+ plastic spacer between chassis and body to raise it a bit.
Unfortunately, by raising the body by 1mm, you will be increasing the height by a scale six inches, which will be particularly noticeable in the gap created between the roof of the cab and the bottom of the 'Luton' extension.
If you have some modelling skills (and good eyesight!), you could remove most of the trim at the bottom of the body, which is over-scale in any case.
Quote from: NeilMac on September 05, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 04, 2013, 07:48:07 PM
Just received the Bedford O series furniture removals lorry. This is flush glazed and the cab has the potential for other models. The model's cab and body are completely plastic. There is a diecast metal chassis which includes the front mudguards. The chassis could be adapted to accept other body set ups. The body is a bit too low slung for my liking so I will be putting in a 1mm+ plastic spacer between chassis and body to raise it a bit.
Unfortunately, by raising the body by 1mm, you will be increasing the height by a scale six inches, which will be particularly noticeable in the gap created between the roof of the cab and the bottom of the 'Luton' extension.
If you have some modelling skills (and good eyesight!), you could remove most of the trim at the bottom of the body, which is over-scale in any case.
This won't be a problem because I am also replacing the cab with a Fordson 7V so making some chassis alterations at the front too. But I agree the gap could look a bit odd like this one:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38389354@N07/5720619432/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/38389354@N07/5720619432/#)
Ah, the Fordson 7V; one of my favourite trucks!
Here's a 1/48 (not 1/148!) scale one I built, using the cab front and wheels from a Fire Brigade Models kit; the chassis, bodywork and rest of cab are scratchbuilt: a labour of love that took me almost six months.
Looking forward to seeing a photo of your conversion when it's done!
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/neilmc_photos/932e3fdd79fdd281c9296d75c84cd284_zps26dee00a.jpg)
Very nice Neil. Mine will use the R.Parker white metal cab, and wheels. I would also like a Fordson E88w/Model 51 like this one.
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/ford/fordson/autowp.ru_fordson_e88w_1.jpg (http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/ford/fordson/autowp.ru_fordson_e88w_1.jpg)
Quote from: woodbury22uk on September 05, 2013, 02:26:40 PM
Very nice Neil. Mine will use the R.Parker white metal cab, and wheels. I would also like a Fordson E88w/Model 51 like this one.
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/ford/fordson/autowp.ru_fordson_e88w_1.jpg (http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/ford/fordson/autowp.ru_fordson_e88w_1.jpg)
The E88 used a similar (but not identical) cab to the 7V, so a conversion could be possible...
Incidentally, the actual vehicle in your link was the first of 25 originally delivered to the GPO as a mail van, before ending up with the Stores dept.
The Oxford Guy Arab can be viewed here:-
http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/LargeImages/OxfordDiecast2/NUT001_Guy%20Arab%20Utility_Southdown_N_PP_Large.jpg (http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/LargeImages/OxfordDiecast2/NUT001_Guy%20Arab%20Utility_Southdown_N_PP_Large.jpg)
and the Panorama Elite here:-
http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/LargeImages/OxfordDiecast2/NPP001_Plaxton%20Panorama%20I%20National%20Express_Ribble_N_PP_Large.jpg (http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/LargeImages/OxfordDiecast2/NPP001_Plaxton%20Panorama%20I%20National%20Express_Ribble_N_PP_Large.jpg)
The Arab looks a bit chunky but the Panorama is lovely. Hope we get a Green Line version.
Quote from: captainelectra on October 10, 2013, 12:07:19 PM
The Arab looks a bit chunky but the Panorama is lovely. Hope we get a Green Line version.
Yep, the Arab looks very chunky - check out the thickness of the platform pole!!!
Not quite sure about the panorama elite - there's something not quite right about the front end and the door. Plus shouldn't the main windows have radius curves in all the corners rather than being sharp right angles? But not too bad overall and hopefully as it's just an early pre-production version it will be sharpened up for production.
H.
Quote from: H on October 10, 2013, 01:27:36 PM
Not quite sure about the panorama elite - there's something not quite right about the front end and the door. Plus shouldn't the main windows have radius curves in all the corners rather than being sharp right angles? But not too bad overall and hopefully as it's just an early pre-production version it will be sharpened up for production.
H.
It's not a Panorama Elite, but the generation before that, the Panorama II, the last with flat side glass. These did have square cornered windows: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8211276633_46bb671fc0_o.jpg (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8211276633_46bb671fc0_o.jpg)
There were several versions of the lower side trim; that makes printing them on sensible as they changed annually!
I think it's actually a Panorama I (see http://www.showbus.com/B/Btrent85.JPG (http://www.showbus.com/B/Btrent85.JPG) and the model name by the door and http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/Gallery_Plaxton%20Panorama.htm (http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/Gallery_Plaxton%20Panorama.htm)) which came before the Panorama Elite (followed by the Elite MkII and III) and also in which case it's missing the roof mounted air intake scoops.
H.
Yes, sorry I. Actually it does have the air scoops, though i. they're not very easy to see in the photo being white on white and ii. they don't appear to rise up quite as much as they should. This bodystyle ran from 1964-68, the Panorama Elite from 1968 to 1974, replaced by the similar looking, but all-new Supreme.
Next week's releases include two new castings:-
NPP001 National Express Plaxton Panorama !
NUT001 Southdown Guy Arab Utility
I've had notification that most of the promised/scheduled 2013 releases, that are still outstanding, have unfortunately been put back to next year. Included are;
* Scania Topline, Highline and T cabs.
* VW Beetle
* Commer Postbus and BR PB van
* Austin Mini
* Morris Minor saloon
Sigh. :(
H.
what era is that plaxton coach suitable for? are they making it in any other liveries?
cheers
tim
Dates for the Panorama I? See Bernard's post - four above.
H.
my preordered panorama's arrived from Liverpool last week.
ok cheers h
i'm guessing that some of these coaches survived into the 80s though, with operators for school use etc. etc???
cheers
tim
I saw lots when I visited the Isle of Man in 1981, but it was a little bit of a time warp place. Yes, they would have been well down the pecking order by that date, though their successors, the Panorama Elites ('68-'74) were still quite common.
I quite fancy doing a Bedford VAL conversion :D
I went to school on a Minerva Travel Panorama Elite in 1997! It was needless to say it was the last operator and probably the perfect thing for a school run!
Richard
:hellosign:
B.O.A.C used them between Victoria Air Terminal in Buckingham Palace Rd to Terminal 3,
Some of them had B.O.A.C Cunard on the side of them.
:Class31: Mike
Hi all :wave:
Picked one up today
I have to say it's a great looking model :thumbsup:
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee398/davieb68/IMG_2411_zpsf8f9501c.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/davieb68/media/IMG_2411_zpsf8f9501c.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee398/davieb68/IMG_2412_zps55086a1a.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/davieb68/media/IMG_2412_zps55086a1a.jpg.html)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee398/davieb68/IMG_2413_zpseeab6c37.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/davieb68/media/IMG_2413_zpseeab6c37.jpg.html)
Sorry if the pics are a little blurred but I have other things on my mind at the moment
dave :thumbsup:
Looks good, but they've forgotten to paint the wider pillar in between the chrome strips: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Dons_Tour_Brochure_photo_1970.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Dons_Tour_Brochure_photo_1970.jpg). (Should be white on a National Express coach.)
Looks lovely - hope to see a Green Line version soon.
Such an improvement over the chunky double-deckers - no need for the Glue'n'Glaze. :)
Quote from: BernardTPM on November 07, 2013, 11:10:04 PM
Looks good, but they've forgotten to paint the wider pillar in between the chrome strips
Yep, I noticed that on my ones (and that the roof isn't fitted very well on one of the two) so it looks like they've all been missed. I'm going to have to get the paint and brushes out.
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5028/ged6.jpg)
H.
Ah, same with the back pillar too - but overall it looks really good. Is the bottom half diecast?
The rear corner pillars are filled with silver paint. The bottom half and roof are diecast metal with the centre window section being a clear plastic moulding. The wheels are nice mouldings but as always with Oxford cars the axle is too long (or they are not sufficiently fitted on) so that the wheels (on one side or the other) stick out too far.
H.
I had a suspicion it was a 'sandwich'. Matchbox used the same basic construction method about 25 years ago for their 'Ikarus' coach http://www.modellauto.hu/ikarus/ik300_a.htm#sthash.mFKUDesF.dpbs (http://www.modellauto.hu/ikarus/ik300_a.htm#sthash.mFKUDesF.dpbs). I did consider getting one just for the side windows to help build a modern Duple; while the width and height were much too long, the curved windows and length were about right for a 12m 320. I didn't bother in the end because it was set up for LH drive with the driver's sliding window detail moulded into the glazing on the wrong side for British use (would have been OK if they'd just printed it!).
4 N items for release this month.
http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showcat.asp?cat=58&jump=3 (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showcat.asp?cat=58&jump=3)
Not sure about the LMS removals van. Could be a model of a model.
Hi
I have bought 2 of the Western National Bristol buses as they are ideal for my North Cornwall Route
Mike
Three N pre-production models are shown on this page - Bristol Lodekka "Bristol" and two Eddie Stobart Scania articulated trucks with curtain-side trailers. Sorry if the Fiesta and the Stobart Rail Scania machinery transporter got anybody's hopes up!
http://tinyurl.com/q49f5l4 (http://tinyurl.com/q49f5l4)
At first I thought wow some really good stuff there but then realised lots is for the bigger scale that must not be mentioned on the hallowed website.
Uncle "Hatton" is sending me 3 x Western National Lodekkas for xmas :claphappy:
There are a lot of packages arriving from santa sadly none of them are for Mrs "H". A&E here I come :worried:
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on December 09, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
There are a lot of packages arriving from santa sadly none of them are for Mrs "H". A&E here I come :worried:
At least you can just wave your season ticket and get a bed, Jerry ;D
For anyone with access to the new edition of Diecast Collector magazine the whole of page 30 is taken up with pre-production photos of the forthcoming N items including the Mini, Morris Minor, Bedford OWB bus, Bedford TJ ambulance, Commer PB minibus and van, etc. Apart from the wheels looking odd/big on the two cars these models look to capture the character of the original vehicles well. It appears that Oxford has adopted clear plastic as the body medium for the new releases which allows slim window pillars and flush glazing. I know its been a long wait for some of these but good to see that the moulds exist and the models are coming soon. There are some reliveries in the pictures too, including the Southdown coach.
http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/userfiles/magazines/dcfeb_39304.jpg (http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/userfiles/magazines/dcfeb_39304.jpg)
Having looked at the page in more detail I can add to the above list with the Ford Transit Network Rail, two Eddie Stobart Scania Curtainside HGVs, VW beetle, and recolours of the tractors, 2CV, Lodekka , Panorama coach, and VW bay window Van/campers.
nothing new just what was in oxfords October catalogue , I was hoping for new information
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on January 05, 2014, 03:21:06 AM
nothing new just what was in oxfords October catalogue , I was hoping for new information
The next new announcements will be at the Toyfair around 21/23 January. Oxford will be announcing a new range of 1/18 models there. The next tranche of N announcements for 2014 will be around that time with a new catalogue issued for the February to May period.
Some folk seem to be concerned at the length of time between announcement and delivery of new items, so I always try to provide an update on progress if I come across it.
Only one new item for delivery this month so far, and this is already with some retailers.
NBL004. Bristol Lodekka "Alexander"
http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showitem.asp?id=3506 (http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/shop/showitem.asp?id=3506)
Just noticed two new transits on the era page of Oxford's site Royal Mail and RAC no pictures or drawings ,first of minis ,beetles ,bedford ambulances ,bedford owbs ,morris minor saloons and scania highlines have all been released
Have just bought the Bedford OB single decker, the Royal Mail LandRover Mk1, and a VW van but beyond that things in N Gauge are really scarce - unless you want your layout to host a Morris Minor 1000 get together, or all your layouts residents to drive MkIX Jaguars and similar.
Where are the vans? Morris J in N please!!
I was just thinking last night - we are well served in N gauge rolling stock/buildings for cattle movements e.g. the excellent Farish cattle wagons (weathered or not), Ratio cattle docks etc but there are no Oxford Diecast cattle lorries ???
I'm sure a 4 wheel 1950/60's version would prove extremely popular on many layouts :hmmm:
Would it not be possible to build a cattle truck from one of the BT flatbeds such as the Albion , Bantam or BMC FG ?. as to vans the Commer pb is due shortly and I have added to my mix of light vans with a Standard and A30 from R Parker ,but I still wish Oxford would bring out a BMC J2 ,Ford Thames or Standard Atlas Van and a Commer Cob ,Austin a40 or 55 or even a minivan
If Oxford did the TK chassis horsebox they do in 4mm that would be so very useful - TKs were just so common 1960-1990.
some tri-cycles would be nice , theres a Robin Reliant van in 00 , hows about one in N ?
A 'plas' and a Robin would suit late 60's/70's layouts.
alan
The Oxford three wheeler is a Reliant Regal Supervan 111 .I would prefer this to a Robin as it is nearer to my period
Quote from: mr bachmann on March 04, 2014, 03:33:18 PM
some tri-cycles would be nice , theres a Robin Reliant van in 00 , hows about one in N ?
A 'plas' and a Robin would suit late 60's/70's layouts.
alan
Forgive me but this is a pet peeve, it is a Reilant Robin not a Robin Reliant. :beers:
Anyway, as you were.
Quote from: johnlambert on March 04, 2014, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: mr bachmann on March 04, 2014, 03:33:18 PM
some tri-cycles would be nice , theres a Robin Reliant van in 00 , hows about one in N ?
A 'plas' and a Robin would suit late 60's/70's layouts.
alan
Forgive me but this is a pet peeve, it is a Reilant Robin not a Robin Reliant. :beers:
Anyway, as you were.
please explain the differance regarding the Robin reliants ,
thank you
alan
Convention is that cars are identified first by make then by model. Since Reliant is the manufacturer and the model is the Robin it just sounds wrong (to me, but I know I'm not alone in this) to see people refer to Robin Reliants. No one would refer to a Golf Volkswagen.
The logic even holds for some locomotives; think how odd it would be to call what became the class 47 a "Type 4 Brush".
I know I'm being un-necessarily picky, I just like to see the correct names used for things. But it doesn't matter, if you say Robin Reliant it is perfectly clear what you're talking about.
Quote from: johnlambert on March 04, 2014, 09:10:40 PM
Convention is that cars are identified first by make then by model. Since Reliant is the manufacturer and the model is the Robin it just sounds wrong (to me, but I know I'm not alone in this) to see people refer to Robin Reliants. No one would refer to a Golf Volkswagen.
The logic even holds for some locomotives; think how odd it would be to call what became the class 47 a "Type 4 Brush".
I know I'm being un-necessarily picky, I just like to see the correct names used for things. But it doesn't matter, if you say Robin Reliant it is perfectly clear what you're talking about.
The same holds true for me about shortening the names of cars. As an ex Rolls Royce employee I can say that everyone at Crewe was very careful to call the cars Royce's. Rolls was just a darned salesman - and then not for very long!
I always called a RR a roller. With regards to Reliant Robins I don't remember that many of them years ago and I'm an old git. I recall the Scimitar which had a 3 litre Ford engine I think. Now for 40/50s layouts how about a Trojan van
which had solid tyres.
Quote from: Agrippa on March 04, 2014, 11:45:21 PM
I always called a RR a roller.
Which qualifies you as a fully paid up Philistine.
Please its not a reliant robin or a robin reliant it is a reliant regal supervan you would not call a rr silvershadow a silvercloud.
Quote from: javlinfaw7 on March 05, 2014, 12:06:27 AM
Please its not a reliant robin or a robin reliant it is a reliant regal supervan you would not call a rr silvershadow a silvercloud.
But you might call it an SY270
Agrippa would love a trojan but would the chimps be extra? ???
thank you guys for the detailed descriptions of the Reliant Motor Co;s products , its worth a mention that from 1953 untill the early 1970's they where all Regals - exept the short lived Regent 4 wheeler , then along came the 750 Robin to be superseeded by the 850 Robin , untill the Rialto was announced , then this was updated to the Rialto 2(with higher gear back axle) , next on the list was the slow to arrive Robin LX - now the goverment wanted a production model for crash testing , but with slow builds the company lost sales and the future was grim ...
its worth a mention that in beween the threewheeler production there was also the Fox , Kitten , Saber and Simiter 4 wheel models , O' not forgetting the Bond Bug , only the first few where built at Preston - but thats another story .
sorry for going 'off' topic .
alan (plas owner)