A British domestic train from Kato? 800 series available from May 2021

[railsquid]

I'm tempted to buy one merely to help sales and encourage Kato to expand into the UK market. Be awesome for them to start chipping through our EMUs!

That is part of my motivation for getting one 

[Vonzack]

LNER version ordered for me, lets hope if they sell well, we get some more ECML sets.....Class 91 + MkIVs anybody?

[Katmandu]

To all the legal beagles this is my first post so be gentle.

When I studied some law in the 60s one of the basic principles studied was about "Invitation to treat" .  Basically any pricing in windows. on shop shelves, advertising etc was an invitastion to treat, you offered to buy at that price and the seller then chose whether to accept and supply at that price or refuse, make a counter offer etc.  All of this was backed up by copious case law etc.

Does this not cover any mispricing in adverts?

[Trainfish]

Yes it does cover it as from what I know and consulting the MSE website you have only agreed the cost/contract once the purchase has been carried out, ie, money exchanged.

Welcome to the forum too. Rest assured not all threads are like this one 

[dannyboy]

@Katmandu

Your thoughts are what I always believed - until money changes hands, either party can decline the offer. And welcome to the forum. 

[Snowwolflair]

That is all correct except what defines the beginning of the financial transaction as the law was drafted long before the concept of pre-authorisation.  There was a recent case to decide this that went as follows.

The argument was about when does a payment start as that is the point of entry of the contracted stage.  It was argued that you start to pay as soon as an action by the vendor has an impact on the buyers finances. Specifically the QC argued that the pre authorisation request by a vendor to PayPal or other would be noted by the funding source and consequently will have an affect on how they view the financial position of the buyer.  Therefore the act of pre authorisation was the beginning of the financial transaction and consequently the start of the contract.  the argument was accepted.

I saw this on a trading standards notification so if there is a lawyer on the forum who can name the case it would be appreciated.

[Railwaygun]

that 's enough legalese please, or we will consider locking this thread!!

NickR

[pape_timmo]

Getting things back on topic, I wonder if Kato will be prototypical and have white door frames on the GWR sets, the real 5 car 800s being vinyls over white paint. The Class 802s are painted green, as are the 9 car 800s.

Cheers, Timmo

[acko22]

Hi all,

Of course this is coming to fruition now and I can't wait to see them land next year, sadly alas the two current liveries GWR and LNER aren't for me 
But the differences in modelling terms for a TPE variant are very very minor, in fact its the plated windows in first class 2 instead of 3 on GWR units and then literally 6 inch cut outs on the underframe valances on the GWR versions of the 80x series which are smaller on the TPE versions (something I could happily live with).

So all is not lost yet as a livery and change of the number of windows infilled (as well as the different seating positions in 1st class are well minor alterations in the grand scheme of such a project by well probably the largest N gauge firm in the world! But we shall see if my hopes are answered

[woodbury22uk]

Getting things back on topic, I wonder if Kato will be prototypical and have white door frames on the GWR sets, the real 5 car 800s being vinyls over white paint. The Class 802s are painted green, as are the 9 car 800s.

Cheers, Timmo

Probably.  @pape_timmo

https://mobile.twitter.com/kato_team/status/1332232325837406209/photo/1

[njee20]

That's a half decent looking BWHS pantograph too, albeit the angle's not great to check the upper linkage - be great if they do those as spares!

[Adam1701D]

That's a half decent looking BWHS pantograph too, albeit the angle's not great to check the upper linkage - be great if they do those as spares!

I was thinking that/ A nice, sturdy, dummy high-speed pan is what we need. All my Dapol examples have fallen apart (and look awful) and my 91s could really use them.

[njee20]

Dapol were close, but they made them bizarrely long! Revolution's ones are lovely, but not availalbe as spares - the 86s, 90s, 350s etc are all crying out for a better one!

[woodbury22uk]

That's a half decent looking BWHS pantograph too, albeit the angle's not great to check the upper linkage - be great if they do those as spares!

I was thinking that/ A nice, sturdy, dummy high-speed pan is what we need. All my Dapol examples have fallen apart (and look awful) and my 91s could really use them.

Trouble is that sturdy and finely modelled tend not to sit together. My experience of the TGVs is they can be posed, and dismantled by a bridge after moving from the posed position. On the plus side that means there is a need/demand for spares. :-)

[pape_timmo]

Those Instagram pictures look great, and glad to see the white door frames. Looking really good

Cheers, Timmo