Static Grass

Started by KipperPK, September 03, 2024, 04:40:03 PM

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KipperPK

Hi,New to using the forum, so please bear with me. I have a relatively small amount of grass/weeds to do on embankments..... well it is 'N'! Probably no more than a couple of square feet in total. Looking to do layers of static, but the question is what is the best way to apply? I'm reluctant to spend what I regard as a lot on 'Peco' type products for such a small area. There appears to be a plethora of stuff on places such as Amazon (all Chinese) at reasonable cost. Question is are they any good? If you have bought such an item and it is good, perhaps you'd like to share the details?

ntpntpntp

Personally I stick to decent quality grass fibres from WW Scenics which I know has the colours and lengths I like.  I've found some brands of grass to be too shiny or are colour mixes I don't find realistic. 
 
Peco sells the same applicators as WW Scenics, I don't know whether Peco's grass is also from the same sources as WWS.

As for application, I'm still learning the art but I'd say definitely follow the tutorials that are out there on youtube for railway modellers and also military modellers.  Use the basing and layering glues sold for the job, rather than good old PVA.  The static grass glues tend to produce a more "rubbery" result and the fibres strand up better.

Here's one of my first goes at layering different colours to create a patchy field.



This was using longer "dead grass"



 
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KipperPK

Definately agree about using decent materials and glues.....essential from what I've seen on YouTube. Still looking for a decent reasonably cheap applicator however

port perran

Another heads up for the WW Scenics applicator and grasses.
Some of the cheaper grass looks way too green for my liking.
It's the old adage - you gets what you pay for :


I'm sure I'll get used to cream first soon.


ntpntpntp

Quote from: KipperPK on September 03, 2024, 05:33:46 PMDefinately agree about using decent materials and glues.....essential from what I've seen on YouTube. Still looking for a decent reasonably cheap applicator however

I have a WWS medium sized applicator and a Peco detail applicator (found that one cheap on ebay, I think someone bought a starter kit and never used it).    To be honest I only use the detail applicator for the areas I want to apply grass of a given type/colour. The Peco applicator I own has the battery in a separate box and two quite thick cables to the device and the grounding clip, and I find it best to stuff the box down the trouser-front and out of the way :) 
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jpendle

Quote from: ntpntpntp on September 03, 2024, 05:55:01 PMI find it best to stuff the box down the trouser-front and out of the way :)

I shudder to think where you might be stuffing the grounding clip  :goggleeyes:

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ntpntpntp

Keeps my hands free, and doesn't require the battery box to rest on the layout :)



I think there's now a newer version that doesn't have the large box.
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Newportnobby

Quote from: ntpntpntp on September 03, 2024, 05:55:01 PMI find it best to stuff the box down the trouser-front and out of the way :)

There speaks someone who has played cricket before :D

zwilnik

Quote from: ntpntpntp on September 03, 2024, 07:25:09 PMKeeps my hands free, and doesn't require the battery box to rest on the layout :)



I think there's now a newer version that doesn't have the large box.

isn't there a pretty hefty step-up transformer in that battery box too? If so I'd hate to think what sort of electromagnetic field it's chucking out around it.

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