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point motors
« on: September 15, 2017, 12:54:31 pm »
Can anyone tell me if I can purchase surface point motors rather than under board ones as they will be easier for me to fit (limited movement ) I know you can get them for OO gauge (wash my mouth out ) but just wondered if they were available for N gauge !!!!!!!!!

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Re: point motors
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2017, 01:09:08 pm »
The Peco surface mounted point motor PL11 works with N gauge points, I've used it on my layout.  I think the motor needs a little packing underneath to get the height right to match the tie bar of N gauge points.

I think you can also get a surface mounting kit for the Peco PL10 point motor.

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Re: point motors
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 01:43:46 pm »
The Peco surface mounted point motor PL11 works with N gauge points, I've used it on my layout.  I think the motor needs a little packing underneath to get the height right to match the tie bar of N gauge points.

I think you can also get a surface mounting kit for the Peco PL10 point motor.

The PL10 actually needs to be lowered a little in relation to the point (assuming it's a Peco point, of course  :hmmm:). The same applies to Gaugemaster's equivalent the PM20.

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Re: point motors
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2017, 02:11:42 pm »

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Re: point motors
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2017, 05:14:05 pm »
Sorry Nobby I forgot I had that one running :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

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Re: point motors
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2017, 05:25:45 pm »
I,m watching a Beattie controller on e-bay, total load 2.5amps its also has a simulater and break control, firstly is it ok to use as a controller, second, what is simulater and break control? I may sound thick but we have all got to learn about these things and I have never heard of brake control or simulater.
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Re: point motors
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2017, 06:19:04 pm »
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Re: point motors
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 08:17:13 pm »
I,m watching a Beattie controller on e-bay..


Hi Les,

I found a couple of Beatties controllers on ebay. Are you referring to this Twin Track controller?   Looks very much like it's made for Beatties by Gaugemaster.  I don't know a lot about this particular controller, but I would think it's ok. It's marked N/OO on the back.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/beatties-twin-track-/232484024643

Basically the simulator adds a delay to the speed-up and slow-down when you turn the regulator knob, to simulate the response of a heavy train.  If the simulator also has a brake function this will typically let you turn the regulator off so the train seems to "coast" and you can slow the train more rapidly if you were "applying"  the brake. 
« Last Edit: September 15, 2017, 08:47:13 pm by ntpntpntp »
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Re: point motors
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 08:47:34 pm »
Yes that's the one most of my locos are older ones anyway so it should be fine if I can get it at the right price,can you still run points etc off it?

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Re: point motors
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 09:02:19 pm »
can you still run points etc off it?
It's got a 16VAC output so yes, but I'd recommend going via a Capacitor Discharge Unit (CDU) if you're going to use simple solenoid-type point motors like the Peco PL10 or PL11.
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Re: point motors
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2017, 08:46:27 pm »
I think motorised points are quite away  off at the moment, I,m rubbish at electrics don,t have a clue so at the moment I,m considering a double track plan from the peco book (they tell you where to place the electrics,) and then a 3rd track around the outside slightly raised running totally independent on another controller so I can at least have two loco,s running at the same time. But none of this is going to happen yet as my shed is,nt going to be delivered until mid Oct. then I,ve got to build it, insulate it, build all the base boards, stain them, fit them, do the electrics, and also finance it, so it won,t be ready to actually start thinking of putting any kit in there until perhaps the new year. ( we,ve got xmas not too far away to pay for ) unless the post code lottery is kind to me.

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Re: point motors
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 10:45:08 am »
Hi all, my shed is being delivered wed. 18th oct once built I can get on with the inside. Once I,ve fitted the baseboard what should I cover it with? cork roll or grass matting ? bearing in mind I will need to add roads ect. and tarmac areas for car parks and drive ways.

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Re: point motors
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 01:25:50 pm »
Personally I wouldn't totally cover it with anything, that's just a waste of material.  Try to think more in terms of maybe cork strips for the track bed, card or something for roadways, grass mat for open fields etc.    There may be areas you want to build up into hills, other areas you want to cut the board away to make lakes or landscape dips etc.
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Re: point motors
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2017, 07:45:11 pm »
Just make sure you put some paint or varnish on both sides of the board to prevent warping. I use  9mm MDF and a MDF primer.
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Re: point motors
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 05:08:29 pm »
Thanks for your answers guys, but sorry they don't answer my question.

 

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