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Offline Ian Bowden

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2017, 12:18:41 PM »
I have wanted a crocodile for a while saw one new on eBay so had to get some track for it. Only problem is I don't want it to be  lonely so I will have to get it a few friends. My main interest is transition in  n gauge but a portable suitcase layout is interesting.

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2017, 12:42:49 PM »
I  like Z gauge, the Marklin stuff is expensive  but I like
the briefcase layouts, some people think Z is a bit of a gimmick, but it's
been going for quite a few years. I like the Krok locos, there was an
Arnold N gauge one for sale on Ebay  a while back , about £100.
I think the Kroks were used mainly for freight, but may be wrong.

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2017, 01:40:48 PM »
i have a very large collection of z gauge almost as much as n gauge and reading through the posts i can agree with pretty much everything thats been said, i got into it by wanting to try something different and the fact that waiting for n gauge stuff i had on order meant i was closer to drawing a pension that getting them, i have built a large z gauge layout which has been to shows and is booked for more going forward, it was built in such a way that i used a lot of n gauge scenics an dbits , so much so that most think at the shows the layout is n gauge until its pointed out which is nice , lucky for me i got most of the z second hand for very good prices or cheap from ebay.de , i very much doubt i could get all the stuff i have got if i was starting today , still i have my n gauge aswell and have new layouts in planing for z and n going forward.

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2017, 01:46:33 PM »
forgot to say 1 loco thats missing in z gauge and could start some interesting possibilities would be a gm class 66 as these are all over Europe and could be the basis of a start of British z gauge revival as wagons are not a problem, you never know.

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2017, 03:41:46 PM »
A 66 in Z could be challenging just due to the loading gauge, they are somewhat smaller in stature than most European locos.  Would be interesting to see one though.

I run a little  bit of Z, got started with one of the little battery operated set that was 40 Euros from a Conrad stand in Stuttgart in 2003. I think all of my operating team bought one (we were out there with my N layout).



I try to limit the Z to german steam or early diesel, simply because my N is mostly modern german so don't want to clash.
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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2017, 08:23:55 AM »
interesting point about the gm class 66 and i did think of that , however noch of germany commissioned rokuhan of japan to produce the db class 181 loco as this is also smaller in size and the marklin motors didnt fit but the rokuhan motors are smaller and would fit the chassis , i have a couple of them and very nice they are too with add detail ,so noch could next time around if looking for a diesel loco could go with this , and it would cover a lot of different countries, abet with slight variances in tooling , even so much as delivery trains in the usa , i mean think of the amount of liveries available if you add them up you have to be looking at over a 50 a least in 6+ different countries ,if i were noch and was looking this would be top of the list for z gauge


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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2017, 08:48:16 AM »
Yeah good point about the 181, I run two of three of those in N.

I've seen a few bits of Rokuhan they seem very nice.
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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2019, 08:02:48 AM »
Hi all,

I have potentially done something very stupid. I bought a 1/230 scale Hong Kong ferry at a really good price thinking that I could bash it into a smaller (in real terms) N gauge steam boat or the like.

It's such a lovely model though that I don't want to touch it. I think it would look silly trying to be N so have been looking at Z scale Rokuhan Japanese locos, coaches and track on ebay.

Thought I might get 1 loco and a few coaches for a small SE Asian port. Haven't done it yet as I know nothing of Z scale and am scared I could be making a big mistake.

It would only be an aside to N but any advice would be appreciated.

I might have a little trip down to Sussex to see it in the flesh at Gaugemaster.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Cheers weave  :beers:
« Last Edit: January 19, 2019, 08:04:10 AM by weave »

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2019, 10:46:39 AM »
I do like Z, I have a couple of sets and additional locos. My plan was always to make a small layout of older German steam as a contrast to the modern era my N gauge collection is focussed on these days.  Just haven't got round to it yet.

The tug in my N layout's harbour is actually a 1:200 scale kit, I modified the superstructure and added larger doors to bring it up to 1:160, but yours at 1:230 is probably too much of a difference to make such a conversion easy.

Rokuhan Z track is pretty much Unitrack for Z.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2019, 10:48:02 AM by ntpntpntp »
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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2019, 03:00:47 PM »
Just sold a load of Swiss Z scale stuff for my dad, it is quite 'cute', but I'd just rather have N; Z seems to be too compromised in general for me.

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2019, 03:10:51 PM »
I've seen this layout several times over the years and have always been impressed with the smooth, slow running. Not sure, but I believe a lot more North American stuff is available than UK outline


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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2019, 04:56:46 PM »
Not sure, but I believe a lot more North American [Z] stuff is available than UK outline

Er... as far as I know there is no UK outline Z at all.  A couple of loco body kits were available in the past, not sure if still around.

Plenty of European obviously, some American and some Japanese.
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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2019, 05:27:42 PM »
I know the purists will object but I have put a short z-gauge branch line on my n-gauge layout to represent the narrow gauge line that our local farmer had to run all his produce from his farm on the Lincolnshire Marshes to the siding and loading bay at the nearest station - Havenhouse.  I have a couple of milk tankers, cattle wagons and open trucks hauled by a german tank engine.  He actually had a paraffin powered loco but I have no idea what it looked like.  I cannot find any pictures.

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2019, 07:08:16 PM »
Hi all,

I have potentially done something very stupid. I bought a 1/230 scale Hong Kong ferry at a really good price thinking that I could bash it into a smaller (in real terms) N gauge steam boat or the like.

It's such a lovely model though that I don't want to touch it. I think it would look silly trying to be N so have been looking at Z scale Rokuhan Japanese locos, coaches and track on ebay.

Thought I might get 1 loco and a few coaches for a small SE Asian port. Haven't done it yet as I know nothing of Z scale and am scared I could be making a big mistake.

It would only be an aside to N but any advice would be appreciated.

I might have a little trip down to Sussex to see it in the flesh at Gaugemaster.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Cheers weave  :beers:

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Re: Z Gauge - my other super expensive hobby....
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2019, 09:17:32 PM »
Not sure, but I believe a lot more North American [Z] stuff is available than UK outline

Er... as far as I know there is no UK outline Z at all.  A couple of loco body kits were available in the past, not sure if still around.

Plenty of European obviously, some American and some Japanese.

There's what looks suspiciously like a Gresley pacific on shed at 1.00 in :hmmm:

 

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