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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2012, 09:12:18 PM »
you say it will have a powered bogie in each chassis, but will it be possible to replace one with a dummy bogie, or should someone want to run a pair of pairs, replace two powered bogies with dummy ones. I assume it would need a blank to fit into the cutout for the powered bogie, with the mounting for the dummy one ?

It's up to you buddy if you want to, as you'll be putting it together.  :P  Good idea though.  Maybe I can enquire in a 'dummy' version?

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2012, 09:25:14 PM »
you say it will have a powered bogie in each chassis, but will it be possible to replace one with a dummy bogie, or should someone want to run a pair of pairs, replace two powered bogies with dummy ones. I assume it would need a blank to fit into the cutout for the powered bogie, with the mounting for the dummy one ?

perhaps if there was a 'dummy' chassis and a 'powered' chassis available, it might be worth while to let people choose their option when buying, or would that make things too difficult ?

if the timber rack was available, would members wanting to build that want to pay for the modules for the weedkiller / sandite version, to replace them with the timber racks ?

does that make sense ?

It's up to you buddy if you want to, as you'll be putting it together.  :P  Good idea though.  Maybe I can enquire in a 'dummy' version?
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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2012, 09:26:20 PM »
I took a quick pic while I was there today. Looks great.



As far as the risk of Dapol or Bachmann releasing one. I wouldn't worry as long as the NGF kit is released relatively quickly. An advantage of kit design based on rapid prototyping is that you can use it to fill gaps in the market while they're there and simply move onto the next product once the RTR ones arrive as you've not got any stock to worry about.

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2012, 09:31:24 PM »
I hoped someone would have a picture.  :)  Thank you!

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2012, 09:45:49 PM »
I have a couple of the Pro Hobby critters, and whilst nice little models (albeit a little oversized), they are a little cranky at slow speed. These are a couple of years old and improvements have been made, but how do these little motors fair at slow speed now?

The later Pro Hobby ones are just as cranky and not great chassis at all IMHO. The TU-7T is a much nicer four wheel drive chassis but as with a lot of these chassis is 4.5v maximum which is mildly annoying on DC and a complete and utter PITA on DCC because decoders output chopped ~12v/0v  at high frequency not a flat voltage. The 7T is also much shorter wheelbase so not a good fit for the MPV.

The really really good chassis in this category is the one in the Kato articulated trams. That's incredibly tiny and and very controllable courtesy of whatever magic is in the PCB that feeds them.
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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2012, 09:48:14 PM »
I set off for my Sunday dash round the layouts, with camera in hand. When I got back it had gone, so didn't get to take a picture.  :'(

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2012, 09:52:13 PM »
Hi All

A couple of phots...



Tomix TM04 on order for testing - you can actually get this and it doesnt cost a fortune - fingers crossed.

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« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2012, 09:59:08 PM »
Good Luck Russ. I think we all wish you the very best with it. Let's hope the chassis and motors works  as good together like the Spitfire and the Merlin engine.


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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2012, 10:05:31 PM »
The Tomix chassis may be a better bet...although the motor may protrude a little too high. I like the adjustable length chassis from Tomix - TM 06 onwards I think.

Sticking with motor bogies, you also have the TGW Deki chassis, but may not be an improvement on the Pro Hobby...

 http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10118042

If feeling rich there is the World Craft motor bogie...similar, but better quality and many times more expensive!

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #39 on: September 09, 2012, 10:51:39 PM »
Osborne models stock these as well - may be worth contacting Morris
also Bahnoff models -also at TING


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« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2012, 10:56:44 PM »
ok, I have had the pleasure of getting a very close look at this model today and even seeing it run and am MEGA impressed, the detail is great, it looks like it should and it VERY well designed. I have put my name down for one and am really looking forward to it.

A brilliant addition to the scale, mega congrats to all involved!!!!

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2012, 10:22:47 AM »
I saw the unit on display yesterday and it looks very good. WIll it be possible to fit a decoder to the motor (accept it will need a decoder for each motor).

As long as there is means to DCC it then I will have one for Banbury.

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #42 on: September 10, 2012, 10:42:41 AM »
Thanks for the comments and help everyone.

I saw the unit on display yesterday and it looks very good. WIll it be possible to fit a decoder to the motor (accept it will need a decoder for each motor).

As long as there is means to DCC it then I will have one for Banbury.

Ian

There will almost certainly be the chance to DCC the model.  This is what I'd want to do with mine.  :)

ok, I have had the pleasure of getting a very close look at this model today and even seeing it run and am MEGA impressed, the detail is great, it looks like it should and it VERY well designed. I have put my name down for one and am really looking forward to it.

A brilliant addition to the scale, mega congrats to all involved!!!!

Simon

Jealous that you got so close Simon!   :D

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2012, 05:42:55 PM »
DCC, Rus and I were talking about this and our thoughts are that if you wired through the 2 motores, you would only need one chip and there is space in the underframe for one.

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Re: NGF Exclusive! Windhoff MPV Prototype at TINGs!
« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2012, 05:48:51 PM »
DCC, Rus and I were talking about this and our thoughts are that if you wired through the 2 motores, you would only need one chip and there is space in the underframe for one.

That was what I was thinking looking at the model along with 'I bet I can fit a speaker in there'. Alas I suspect it won't have enough traction to move a track cleaner which would be its obvious 'use'.

You may have to fiddle with or disable back EMF settings on the decoder with two motors as it may get a little confused, but given they are going to be similar I imagine it'll be fine anyway. Probably needs more than two wires for any lighting though.


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