British N Gauge Grade Tolerance

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scottmitchell74

My first layout has a frustrating 3.3 to 4% grade. It's very limiting.

On my new proposed layout I want elevation, but I'm only allowing 2% at most.

I'm wondering how British locos handle 2%?

Thanks!
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There's no single correct answer.   It really does vary by model, and depends on loco weight, number of driven axles, whether or not there are traction tyres,  weight and drag of the train, whether there are curves on the gradient etc.  I would say British N locos generally don't have traction tyres :( 

2% is generally considered the steepest to go for, but some trial and error is wise.
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Quote from: scottmitchell74 on Today at 03:20:48 AMI'm wondering how British locos handle 2%?


Some do and some don't, and even those that do will struggle with long heavy trains. It's best to avoid gradients all together (in your layout plans) and if that's not possible then make sure they are as gentle as possible and not greater than 2%.

Southerngooner

I took advice from Steve Wright, the builder of James Street, and kept to 1:100 (1%) on my layout. It has 12" radius curves at both ends, and all of my stock, tyres or not, can pull 8 coaches or 25 wagons up the bank and round the corners, which at one end are still on the gradient. If you want long trains (8+ coaches, 25+ wagons) keep the gradients shallow or use locos with tyres; if you need to use steeper gradients be prepared to have to compromise on train length or stock capable of being used.

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Jollybob

I have a 8% gradient on my layout , I think I worked it out at, going around a bend. I found the the older Farish and Union Mills locomotives handle it with no problems, due to these being made of metal and therefore quite heavy. The newer locomotives struggle to pull and will stall. However the newer locomotives will go up it on their own.

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Newportnobby

An alternative is to lower the ground by 1% and raise the track(s) over it by just 1% thus getting the same clearance but with a lower gradient

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Quote from: scottmitchell74 on Today at 03:20:48 AMMy first layout has a frustrating 3.3 to 4% grade. It's very limiting.

On my new proposed layout I want elevation, but I'm only allowing 2% at most.

I'm wondering how British locos handle 2%?

Thanks!

Some of the Dapol steam in particular has enough trouble on the flat. Heavy minitrix locos go up steep grades (except the unfortunate ivatt). Farish varies a lot - diesels generally do better than kettles.

2% is a good number, or model yourself a banker (and you can do that for UK stuff up to the 1980s trivially, and even later but it became a much less common movement).


If it's purely a visual grade then tilt the layout at 2% and run the track flat 8)
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