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Author Topic: Kimbolted - the layout room  (Read 96864 times)

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Offline Newportnobby

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #495 on: June 13, 2019, 11:38:35 AM »
Got your PM thanks, Chris.
Struck out at both the builders merchants and B & Q as they both said they used to recommend certain traders but started getting complaints to themselves if the work didn't meet the customers expectations and it just wasn't worth the hassle. Looks like some computer hours are required.

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #496 on: June 13, 2019, 12:07:47 PM »
@Newportnobby My sympathies Mick. We once had a leak on the 'new' part of our house which was affecting the bathroom ceiling. Originally the 'new' part had a flat roof, which was later converted into a pitch roof, (is that the correct word?), and the roof tiles are actually preformed metal panels. I removed the panel above the leak and could see the water trail on the felt underneath. Eventually I found where the rain was getting in - 3 feet up, then 6 feet to the right and another 3 feet up - 12 feet away! The rain was making its way round a bolt head, so it only needs the smallest of entry holes. Looking at your pictures, @zwilnik  may well be on the right lines.
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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #497 on: June 13, 2019, 12:17:34 PM »
Commiserations. I've had a similar problem in my convservatory. First time it happened, it still had some kind of warranty - a chap from Anglia turned up with a ladder, scrambled on the conservatory roof with a sealant gun, and just generally sealed up anywhere near the leak. Since then, it's happened again. Like you, I can't find anyone who's interested in spending 30 minutes nipping up there and applying sealant, so I've done it myself (I lay a few old planks over the area, and walk up on a stepladder). My wife stands below holding her breath (at least, that's what she says she's holding, I know she doesn't plan to catch me).

Remember that stuff they used to sell to fix leaky radiators on cars? I wondered if there might something similar that I could just run over the affected area, but haven't ever found anything.

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #498 on: June 13, 2019, 12:30:30 PM »
The stuff I'd mentioned is in a tin similar to that of 3 in 1 oil and was (surprisingly still is) quite free-flowing.

Dunno but this stuff and similar offered elsewhere (e.g. Amazon) could be a close match:

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repair/adhesives/granville-silicone-sealant-clear-40g

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #499 on: June 13, 2019, 12:41:00 PM »
to fix leaky radiators on cars?

I heard that cracking a raw egg into the radiator would do the job. I don't suppose Mick would fancy throwing half a dozen eggs on to the top of the conservatory?  :-X
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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #500 on: June 13, 2019, 12:52:15 PM »
The roof panels look like corrugated plastic ones, two skins held apart by vertical bits rather than glass.

These can get pierced by heavy hail and then water does start getting inside the panel and potentially into where the frame is not designed to cope with it.

It sounds bizarre but the rubber seals on UPVC don't stop all water, just most of it, the frames are actually designed to have a small amount of water get in, travel down and run out of a drain hole or gap towards the bottom of the frame, if these get blocked up, or any part of the travel gets blocked up, water finds its way out elsewhere. I wonder if something like this might be happening.

I can only echo asking around at any organisations you're part of to see if anyone knows anyone who knows what they're doing.

The other option is to consider a re-roof, many people are having grp formed roofs fitted to conservatories rather than glass or plastic glazing with the aim of taming the extremes of temperature that you get in a conservatory.

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #501 on: June 13, 2019, 01:03:26 PM »
Mick - one idea based on a similar design of conservatory we used to have at our house. Have you been outside to look at the roof? I noticed one time that some of the plastic glazing panels had slipped down a little, the water got in at the top at the crown, and then having nowhere to go, it flowed down from there - it was easy to fix by pushing the panels back into position. Might be worth a look?
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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #502 on: June 13, 2019, 04:53:21 PM »
@Black Sheep
The roof is certainly not glass. Double skinned polycarbonate??

@DarrwestLU6

A possibility maybe but as you can see from the attached diagram, there's no way I can shin up a ladder to check as it would mean crawling around on the bungalow roof. Unfortunately the position of the leak also makes any sort of access very tricky.


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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #503 on: June 13, 2019, 05:14:05 PM »
did you manage to speak to the chap i pm 'ed you about mick?

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #504 on: June 13, 2019, 09:22:13 PM »
Sorry. More pressing things to do before the weekend. I may get to do it tomorrow

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #505 on: June 14, 2019, 11:37:40 AM »
Might have found someone very local to me so have e mailed them and laid it on thick e.g. pensioner with heart issues blah blah so we'll see what they can do/suggest.

https://cms.pm/uploads/files/penworthamglass.seesite.biz_--_327698062.pdf

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #506 on: June 14, 2019, 11:51:44 AM »
mick

i hope your namesake can sort the problem sooner rather than later

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #507 on: June 14, 2019, 12:07:51 PM »
Mick,

According to the forecasts I've seen the rain is due to slacken for a few days, hopefully it gets fixed during the respite.

Cheers
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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #508 on: June 14, 2019, 04:35:25 PM »
Have you checked your household insurance to see if you are covered? If you are, the words,”an insurance job” can make a difference as to wether you get a response or not.
The years have been good to me, it was the weekends that did the damage.

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Re: Kimbolted - the layout room
« Reply #509 on: June 15, 2019, 03:01:53 AM »
Looks like it's been a wet week over there - we got it the news here.

Good luck with it all, Mick.  :beers:
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