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Dodgy joint
« on: September 10, 2020, 02:07:50 AM »
I have only noticed tonight after the track being laid about 3 years ago that I have a dodgy joint in my raised level track. The only way I noticed was when I turned the music down (Pink Floyd by the way) and heard the old diddly dee, diddly da sound. On closer inspection and a technical analysis of running my finger along the track join I found what you see in the picture below. Now, it doesn't seem to have any effect on any trains apart from the sound but now I know it's there I find it annoying. It isn't as bad as it looks in the picture which looks horrendorous but is it worth doing anything about it and if so, what? The track is all fixed down either side of this which is part of 3 double overhead track sections joined together. Is there any way of removing it to find out what the issue is? I can probably take it apart by forcing it upwards but I suspect that putting it back again could cause more damage than I want it to. I'm sure it all clipped together ok when I laid it but it looks like just the far side isn't quite level as the 'bridge' side also looks out of alignment. Maybe I can force it down a bit?
So, in essence, the only thing to be improved is the sound as trains run across it so do I just turn up the music and put up with it or do I do something about it?

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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2020, 02:59:52 AM »
If nothing is coming off the rails, I'd leave it alone.
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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2020, 11:25:39 AM »
You  could, ever so gently, file the raised side slightly, but if it is creating no problems, I would leave well alone. Taking up a fixed piece, on a bridge, could lead to all sorts of problems. Turn the music up a  bit.  ;)
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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2020, 11:51:43 AM »
Rough joints are quite common in Unitrack, going by the pieces I have. It's a side effect of Unijoiners being slightly flexible and removable.

Not a big problem for me as I only use Unitrack for temporary table-top test tracks, but it would annoy me on a permanent layout and I would seek to ensure the track sections are properly aligned and secured/flattened when gluing/pinning down.

I've had Fleischmann locos with low hanging brake shoes get caught on particularly bad joints  :censored:

I would never recommend filing the rail head.
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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2020, 01:54:53 PM »
@Leon
Maybe this thread will make you feel slightly more at ease

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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2020, 04:45:49 PM »
you could also try replacing the unijoiner with a new one, as was mentioned earlier, unitrack can get a bit rough.  The new unijoiner will be tighter

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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2020, 08:59:55 PM »
None of my rail joins come close to the one Trainfish showed us. Nevertheless, I still get plenty of clatter from my trains at every join. The one I've mentioned in my thread that's a little wider than normal is level, at least. My problem has been lightweight rolling stock that don't require much of a bump to take a leap! Come on manufacturers, give us a break. What would it take to add a little weight and you've created a profit margin that can stand the tiny bit of extra expense!

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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2020, 09:30:53 PM »
you could also try replacing the unijoiner with a new one, as was mentioned earlier, unitrack can get a bit rough.  The new unijoiner will be tighter

But the track is fixed down now.
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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2020, 09:37:18 PM »
It is indeed fixed down @dannyboy. I may try forcing one section up a little and the other down but apart from that I doubt I'll do anything. I think this is the only problem with Kato track in that once fixed down it's difficult to lift or replace a section. At least with Peco and others you can usually slide the joiner one way or the other and lift 1 section. Apart from that I think the only other option as confirmed by your good self is to turn up the music. Not that I need much encouragement to do that anyway  :thumbsup:
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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2020, 03:11:31 AM »
Panic over, all sorted



Brute force and ignorance was all that was needed and I have an abundance of both  :thumbsup:
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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2020, 03:37:05 AM »
 :laughabovepost:

Glad you got it sorted!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2020, 10:04:47 AM »
Come on manufacturers, give us a break. What would it take to add a little weight and you've created a profit margin that can stand the tiny bit of extra expense!


@Leon
Then complaints will arise about haulage capacity of locos (they do already). Manufacturers cannot react without receiving a huge outcry rather than the odd complaint solved by the individual adding some tiny fish weights. I have stock from Farish, Dapol, RevolutioN, DJ Models, Peco and Minitrix and only suffer from random wagon uncouplings. Us N gaugers do like our long trains!

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Re: Dodgy joint
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2020, 10:17:11 AM »
I must admit I find the whole uncoupling debate and loco haulage rather tiresome.

They are small N gauge models. The Peco wagons are light weight.

They have climbed a curved gradient, out of sight, on my layout for 30+ years.

All I can add to this is, get it right before you start scenery.
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