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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2020, 10:33:44 AM »
Can you get any inspiration from these Jim?

I was going to make some Coop swap-bodies myself a few years ago but Minitrix came along and saved the day. :D
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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2020, 10:55:14 AM »
Thanks John, those have the awkward extras I'm trying to avoid like serial numbers and container edges. It reinforces my assertion that I can get away with any fruit & veg I like though. Just need to find clean photos (white background and shadows) of single oranges / apples or whatever or small bunches of carrots and the like.

Aren't the Minitrix containers 1:160 though? I find the size difference noticeable.

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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2020, 11:02:03 AM »
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Aren't the Minitrix containers 1:160 though? I find the size difference noticeable.

Yes that's true Jim. I should have said that it was 1:160 swap-bodies I was thinking of making for my standard gauge layout.
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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2020, 05:25:34 PM »
I've spent far too long today drawing decals with far more detail than will be visible once printed.


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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2020, 08:32:13 PM »
I've spent far too long today drawing decals with far more detail than will be visible once printed.



It might not be visible but at least you have the satisfaction of knowing that it's there Jim. :)
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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2020, 10:10:28 PM »
I'm no Michelangelo ("God will see").  ;)

When I wrote "more detail than will be visible once printed" I should have said "more detail than my printer can handle". These are the first decals I've printed since replacing my old Canon printer with an HP a couple of years ago. I'm not sure if the Canon would have done any better.
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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2020, 04:29:55 PM »
Not much progress to report today. I've printed my "final and this time I mean it" versions of the decals and given them a proper coat of lacquer, having bought a new can this morning to replace the one that ran out before properly coating the previous decals.

I also thought I'd try putting a thin black line around the container side door, having received a Posca 0.7 mm black marker today. It looked bloody awful, and by the time I decided to remove it (it's supposed to remain water soluble) it had set enough to make it impossible to remove all of it. So another coat of white is needed before the decals go on.

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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2020, 11:29:11 AM »
At last I've done the decals to my satisfaction, or at least to the point where I don't think I can do it any better.




Just need a finishing coat of satin lacquer and I can do the final assembly.

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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2020, 11:41:47 AM »
Hi Jim. Maybe you can find small details that you're not 100% happy with but the swap-bodies and the wagons certainly look good to me. :thumbsup:
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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2020, 12:13:43 PM »
I've just done a quick height measurement - the wagon is about 2 mm too tall. I think all my RhB freight wagons are destined to be too tall.

The height problem is exacerbated by Mark's ( @fitzgreyve ) swap-body design being based on the full height (8 feet?) ones used by Aldi (for example) and carried on Sb or Sb-t wagons.


When designing my decals, using photos of Coop swap bodies as a guide, I found the Coop ones carried on Lb or Lb-v wagons are less tall (8 feet?).


If Mark does a squatter version of his design I'll be able to swap the swap bodies.

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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2020, 12:30:12 PM »
If that co-op one is a C745 (7.45m long), scaling from the picture gives approx height of 2.37m, which is 30cm shorter than the Rhb stated (max) height of 2.67m.
I can't find a flat enough view of a (real as opposed to model)  aldi one to confirm it's height.


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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2020, 12:37:06 PM »
This is the problem - finding good enough photos to scale from (and I don't trust models, even if commercially produced). If I ever find myself in close proximity to the RhB I must ensure I have a tape measure in my pocket.

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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2020, 01:17:39 PM »
Maybe you can find small details that you're not 100% happy with but the swap-bodies and the wagons certainly look good to me. :thumbsup:

I made sure all the defects are out of focus. ;)

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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2020, 03:49:30 PM »

I made sure all the defects are out of focus. ;)
They are looking very good - better than my own !

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Re: RhB flat wagons and "coop" containers
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2020, 11:51:00 AM »
They are looking very good - better than my own !

When I get them finished you're welcome to use any photos I take on your Shapeways page. I don't know how much fettling is permitted before you might get accused of misleading customers.

 

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