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Author Topic: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's  (Read 2966 times)

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2020, 10:31:58 AM »
What about the Proses gauge, which is adjustable?

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2020, 10:33:46 AM »
I'd be a bit cautious Ted! Have you put 2 points together to see what distance they sit apart???  And presumably the peco gauge is a compromise to allow coaches and bogie stock to successfully pass each other without colliding on the bends  :hmmm:


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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2020, 10:35:34 AM »
What about the Proses gauge, which is adjustable?

I've never heard of those, I'll take a look!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2020, 10:51:49 AM »
I'd be a bit cautious Ted! Have you put 2 points together to see what distance they sit apart???  And presumably the peco gauge is a compromise to allow coaches and bogie stock to successfully pass each other without colliding on the bends  :hmmm:

I hear you! In fact last year I tested some ideas, here's a picture.



These are triples back-to-back with points coming off too. Way more complex than what I'll have on Shirebrook, and tighter. Yes you have to do a little cutting of sleepers and point arms, but nothing major. All fits and runs perfectly for me.  :)

Noted on the corners though. I have a very gentle sweep, not even sure the angle as I haven't measure it - but I'd hazard a guess its about a 50ft radius!  :smiley-laughing:

I don't have any coaches to test, I only have wagons - they seem happy. I will of course test diesels passing each other as those are 12-13cm long. I think similar to coaches and longer wagons.

*I don't want to rule out not being able to run coaches
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2020, 10:55:25 AM »
Was the staple traffic coal around shirebrook?

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2020, 10:57:39 AM »
I genuinely dont know Ted, we run straight lines with a curve of 6inches over 8ft so I have no idea about clashing of stock but the board looks like a wonderful bit of complex fun!!! Hopefully it wont be a problem.

I have a pair of proses track gauges, to run tighter then the peco gauge turn the loose end back on itself and it allows you  to run tighter centres. If you get a pair you'll see what I mean.

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2020, 11:03:14 AM »
Was the staple traffic coal around shirebrook?

From my reading, I'd say it's at least half thanks to the merry-go-rounds constantly trundling up and down! Those would be HAA Hoppers (or derivatives), about 65mm from coupling to coupling. A modest wheelbase.

At the time of modelling, the station wasn't open to passenger traffic. However, I'm still undecided if that's going to be the case on my model. It might be nice to have a use for the station... other than diesel drivers stopping for a change of crew, pee or tea!  :D
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2020, 11:06:15 AM »
I genuinely dont know Ted, we run straight lines with a curve of 6inches over 8ft so I have no idea about clashing of stock but the board looks like a wonderful bit of complex fun!!! Hopefully it wont be a problem.

I have a pair of proses track gauges, to run tighter then the peco gauge turn the loose end back on itself and it allows you  to run tighter centres. If you get a pair you'll see what I mean.

That test board is run by Megapoints Controller and servos. It was going to be a diorama, but ended up being a test bed for my understanding of points, servos, relays and associated wiring.

Then I realised DCC Concepts Cobalt iP motors did all that, in one unit, so I order 24 of those instead!  :-[ ::)

I am using Cobalts on a accessory bus for this layout, much, much easier!

ps: just ordered myself a pair of Poses gauges.
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2020, 11:10:42 AM »
Was the staple traffic coal around shirebrook?

From my reading, I'd say it's at least half thanks to the merry-go-rounds constantly trundling up and down! Those would be HAA Hoppers (or derivatives), about 65mm from coupling to coupling. A modest wheelbase.

At the time of modelling, the station wasn't open to passenger traffic. However, I'm still undecided if that's going to be the case on my model. It might be nice to have a use for the station... other than diesel drivers stopping for a change of crew, pee or tea!  :D
                   ted ..... maybe a dmu nottingham to Mansfield, doncaster or a diverted service. The track looks okay to me

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2020, 09:02:01 PM »
I've been playing with my Cobalt IP motors today and they're very good indeed. They just work.

I'll be selling my Megapointscontroller setup if anyone wants it!

Anyway, contain your suspense on this one, an update of some track laying... not very exciting!



In other news, I've ordered a ESU Decoder Tester and 11 different speakers. Yes, 11!

I'll be testing to find the best solution, then I'll share my results in a video specifically for N Gauge.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2020, 11:17:06 AM »
More toys for the weekend!



Wish me luck... :)
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2020, 12:44:48 PM »
Good Luck :beers:
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2020, 01:08:37 PM »
I watch your progress with interest, whilst I ponder automation on my forthcoming layout!

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2020, 01:44:38 PM »
Good Luck :beers:

:beers: thanks Laurence. I'm sure with trial and error, tea and swearing, I'll crack it!

I watch your progress with interest, whilst I ponder automation on my forthcoming layout!

Thanks Nick.

I really, really like the idea of the schedule running and I can just jump in and either grab a loco/train, shunt or introduce a new one from sidings, shed or yard. Working with and around the schedule, abiding rules, signals and of course, the traffic around me.

It's gamification for sure, but a level of immersion I can't wait to achieve. I know it won't be easy and will document as I go.  :)

...just now, I had to jump on to my new ESU Decoder Tester as my @pauliebanger Class 47 and 37/0 sounds arrived. Both from Digitrains.



Comparing the 37 to my Legoman (Loksound) is tricky, I think they both sound awesome. I must admit though, the cold/warm start and idle options on Paul's Zimo scheme is a nice touch.

However, I must say I prefer Paul's CL 47 over my YouChoos 47, also Zimo (sorry John). I will of course, do a side-by-side video of them all once installed.
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2020, 07:12:47 PM »
Steady, but solid progress...

First distraction, yesterday I added sound to another Class 37 - I love it!



Every piece of track and point is a block. Including additional 'toe' blocks in sidings, so iTrain can register each loco and stack them in any siding. I think it's going to be worth it!

Also, pre-drilling holes for mounting the Cobalt IP motors is a good idea - so those are all done.




I've also create a very small drop at the rear for the two rails as per the real thing. It's only a few feet in real life, so quite subtle but I'm pleased with the effect.


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