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Author Topic: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's  (Read 4794 times)

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2020, 04:39:59 PM »
That is looking neaTer. Where will the chimney be please? Chris

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2020, 04:44:28 PM »
That is looking neaTer. Where will the chimney be please? Chris

The chimney will be about ~5ft away bottom-left. So I've some room that side for either another board/location or a yard area (or both if I employ a helix).  :thumbsup:
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2020, 07:54:50 PM »
Sorry if this is boring, but I find it exciting - a 58 and the signal box in position for reference.



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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2020, 07:56:34 PM »
That is where the chimney will be where the loco is ?

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2020, 07:59:53 PM »
That is where the chimney will be where the loco is ?

Ah, maybe we're at crossed-wires here - which chimney?

When you asked earlier, I thought you meant the one in my attic!  :doh:
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2020, 08:05:43 PM »
Yes the attic ted

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2020, 08:08:01 PM »
Yes the attic ted

See the poof leg left of shot? The chimney is over that way, so plenty of room and doesn't interfere with this back stretch at all.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2020, 08:09:05 PM »
Good luck with the work on progress. Look forward to more

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2020, 08:13:54 PM »
Sorry if this is boring, but I find it exciting

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2020, 08:19:06 PM »
Follows this with interest Ted. Thanks for sharing

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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2020, 09:18:11 PM »
 :hellosign:  :greatpicturessign:
 Yes looking superb Ted, definitely not boring.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2020, 01:59:27 PM »
Okay, so the helix is a bust for my requirements.

It works fine with up to 15 wagons, even up to a 3% gradient.

The locomotives (diesel BoBo and CoCo) are more than capable of pulling, stopping and starting on a 3% with up to 20 wagons.

However, the resistance on the couplings at 17-18+ just creates random uncoupling events - going UP the helix. Down is not an issue.

This is what testing is for.

I will now (pending getting some more MDF) go from 3rd to 4th radius, dropping from a 6mm to 3 or 4mm MDF. Those few mm give me a comfortable 2.1% gradient, but with an more open - lower friction - curve.

For ref, here are my helix calculations:



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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2020, 07:23:53 PM »
@Ted - This looks awesome and I look forward to seeing you build it (virtually). I really liked your helix video too. I am a big fan of helixes and long freight trains so this will be great to follow your progress!

Finally on your calculations (both curve and gradient) - I agree, makes sense, and you only REALLY find out these things from testing.

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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2020, 11:47:45 AM »
I had a happy accident, Bob Ross style. ;D

Applied a varnish, ran some MIG weathering fluid over it and... woah, way, way too dark. Especially on such a small model.

I did remove loads of it with thinner, but it looked grubby and 'over-scale'.

After observing the prototype, I decided instead to use the mess as a pre-shade layer. I blew another slightly lighter layer of signal box colour over the top. I say 'signal box' colour, it's actually approx 70% mid-grey, 9% white and 1% mustard yellow.


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Re: Midlands Coal & Freight, Late 1980's
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2020, 06:15:56 PM »
Today I scratch built a cable rack... (not sure that's the technical name).

It's slightly over-scale simply because when I tried it smaller, you couldn't even see it.

Weathered as per the prototype images I have. Ready to plonk on the layout and bury in shrubbery. :)

I'm pretty happy with the result.

I've left two cables running out of the rear, those will connect to the relay boxes that were located next to this signal box.


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