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Offline Euston

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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2020, 02:50:50 PM »
Thanks ntpntpntp

Yes that is correct

I managed to find the information via Google

Fleischmann 7460 ICE T

which is great news is possible to buy it in N gauge...but finding one is probably going to difficult as it seems the norm with N gauge

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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2020, 06:00:18 PM »

Does anyone know of anyone who would be interested in swaps

As I have some n gauge Kato Japanese stuff and br stuff I'm getting rid of, I will sell it on eBay but thought I would ask here first ?

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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2020, 05:53:06 PM »

Are Roco br 143 good locos ?

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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2020, 07:22:30 PM »

Are Roco br 143 good locos ?

I really like the real 143s, and 155s.  It must be the former East German "square box" styling  :D

My fleet of 143s comprises 1 Roco, 1 Arnold, and 3 Minitrix.

The Roco model I have is as good as my Minitrix and Arnold 143s in my opinion. It is smooth and has a flywheel. 

As my Roco 143 is a late production model, I don't know if there may have been older versions with earlier mechanisms (as is the case with some other Roco models in my collection).  Since the combination of the Roco and Fleischmann companies took place it's possible Fleischmann may have re-worked the mechanism (but not 100% sure about that, I don't have a Fleischmann example yet).

fyi There are "hobby" versions of some Minitrix 143s  where only one bogie is actually powered. I have the remains of one of those in my spares box!



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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2020, 07:32:59 PM »
Thanks ntpntpntp as ever really useful information much appreciated

The roco 143 is this one (pic attached)

Could you please tell me anything about it going off the picture ?


Also (not minitrix) but I saw an n gauge loco fairly recent model from a company called Trix - I have not heard about them before are they affiliated with minitrix ?

Many thanks

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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2020, 08:31:00 PM »
@Euston

Looks like you have found the DB version of the 143 that I have - mine is DR but same colours.  So it's not the most recent livery (1990s maybe, I'm not an expert)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR_Class_243

I think that livery is often associated with S-Bahn suburban trains. It goes well with Minitrix or Fleischmann S-Bahn coaches of similar colours.

https://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/deutschland~e-loks~br-143/458924/heute-drei-farbvariante-der-br-143.html

There are quite a few Roco 143s (various liveries) on ebay Germany, so make sure the one you're looking at is in the best condition and good price.

Trix and Minitrix are the same company.  Trix models are HO, Minitrix are N but sometimes people list N gauge models as Trix. Check carefully!  They're all part of Maerklin anyway  :)
« Last Edit: April 30, 2020, 08:36:54 PM by ntpntpntp »
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« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2020, 08:50:35 PM »
I like to run my 143s with Minitrix S-Bahn coaches like these  (the Jaegermeister branded set is hard to find, you can get the plain orange / grey sets easily enough




Alternatively they go nice with a short rake of double-decker coaches  :)
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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2020, 09:24:54 PM »
@ntpntpntp

Thanks again for the information

The roco I won for £50 - average price ?


Ah that makes perfect sense regarding trix & mini Trix

Reason I asked was I saw listed a Trix N gauge mini Taurus loco with some car transporters loaded with mini coopers

Looked really nice but very expensive


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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2020, 09:37:21 PM »
The roco I won for £50 - average price ?
if it's in good boxed condition then yes that's about right

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I saw listed a Trix N gauge mini Taurus loco with some car transporters loaded with mini coopers

Looked really nice but very expensive

Minitrix 11480 set?   That was a one time series in 2004, probably not so easy to find now.  I see Hattons want £375, that's a bit pricey.

I have a Roco BR 101 loco which would go with those :D

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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2020, 09:40:30 PM »
But the Mini Cooper Taurus is completely wrong. This design was used on a 101, not a Taurus. You don’t have to be a rivet counter to find this a bit far-fetched.

ntpntpntp has shown the correct Mini Cooper 101 in one of his photos before, I am sure he can show it again here.

Edit: Of course he already has …  :P

The set was sold under Herpa (who made the Mini Cooper models), with the train sourced from Minitrix. It was a limited edition of 750 in 2004, and it was expensive back then.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2020, 09:42:07 PM by Hiawatha »
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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2020, 10:00:15 PM »
Thanks ntpntpntp as ever really useful information much appreciated

The roco 143 is this one (pic attached)



Could you please tell me anything about it going off the picture ?

Something looks a bit strange with the DB (?) logo under the right cab window. This model should have white DR letters there. Maybe there was a DB decal placed there, or was the DR painted out with a non-matching colour?
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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2020, 10:10:11 PM »
Probably someone has applied a DB decal, didn't Fleischmann used to market their decals for covering DR logos and updating stock?
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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2020, 10:14:49 PM »
Yes, especially for the old ICE. But I think the decals would cover better and would look white with red letters even on an orange background.
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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2020, 01:40:03 AM »
@ntpntpntp
@Hiawatha

Thanks both of you for the information


Yes that was the set I was looking at from hattons for £375

I would not of paid that, but kept alook out for one, that being said I shan't bother now especially if it's not correct

Besides I'm sure you can get a Taurus in DB colours which would suit me nicely

Regarding the roco loco I'm going to message the seller and explain about the decals and say I'm no longer interested.


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Re: Pre owned - German N gauge
« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2020, 02:57:41 PM »
So the ice train I ordered from eBay

Arrived just now

From modelbahn centre

It was sold as new

The condition it arrived in is a joke

Not happy at all - as the engine was not secured in the packaging

There is damage to the pantograph, a scratch on the side of the engine

Runs slow in one direction

 

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