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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #165 on: May 10, 2016, 02:41:31 PM »
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« Reply #166 on: August 12, 2016, 09:55:36 AM »
I note Hobbytrain have a limited edition set of the SNCF Orient Express

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now here

http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/KATO%2DLemke/61-2-001004-266542-0-0-0-32-0-2-0-gat-gb-h-0/ein_produkt.html

5 tlg. CIWL Riviera Express Set inkl. limitierter Lok BR7102 der SNCF

Die verfügbare Menge dieses
Sets ist auf 100 Stück begrenzt!

Die Lok ist ist mit dem Namensschild „Pullmann Orient Express“ an den Fronten ausgestattet, und kam vor verschiedenen CIWL Zügen zum Einsatz.

Das Modell verfügt über rot/weiß Lichtwechsel in Fahrtrichtung, 5-pol. Motor und eine NEM 651 Schnittstelle.

- 1st Pullman Dining 4158 mit beleuchteten Tischlämpchen
- 1st Pullman Dining 4149 mit beleuchteten Tischlämpchen
- 2x Sleeping car LX16 3537 + 3487
- 1x E-Lok SNCF CC 7102 Pullman Orient Express Logo

no mention of the Service car 4013 though - lets hope it's a typo!
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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #167 on: November 09, 2016, 06:38:10 PM »
Good prices on Electric locomotive series BB 22200, SNCF?? €120

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/liste/bahngesellschaft/sncf.html
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« Reply #168 on: November 10, 2016, 12:23:04 AM »
Good prices on Electric locomotive series BB 22200, SNCF?? €120

https://www.en.dm-toys.de/liste/bahngesellschaft/sncf.html

Don't forget, many of Fleischmann's releases of this SNCF broken nose loco model are erroneous, including both those currently on offer from DM

Any 'broken nose' B-B SNCF loco with a running number of 15051 and above, 7236  or above or 22227 or above is inaccurate, as the Fleischmann body represents the first generation of broken noses, with a more sharply raked back windscreen. (The more recent Minitrix version is more accurate in this regard.)

The nose shape was correct for the very first mouldings of this body shape that Fleischmann made (in the early 1970s...), in other words correct for their BB15001 and BB15006. The model of a BB7200, numbered BB7203, was OK for the nose shape, but the model was erroneous is many other ways, notably roof detail and the bodyside ventilation grille (which is inset instead of sitting proud of the bodyside)

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« Reply #169 on: November 10, 2016, 05:15:44 PM »
I only said it was cheap, and I stand corrected on its accuracy!
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« Reply #170 on: November 10, 2016, 05:57:36 PM »
Thanks for the post Railwaygun. They are some nice prices and I am not too fussed by the compromises.

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« Reply #171 on: July 21, 2018, 05:53:48 PM »
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« Reply #172 on: July 26, 2018, 10:15:37 PM »
I always wanted to model the "Le Capitole" in N scale. Many years ago I have had this train in H0 scale from Lima. (Don't have it anymore unfortunately). I was ready to paint my own but the Arnold BB 9200 just doesn't look right in my opinion, it's more a cartoon than a model. So I put the urge and dream of having a "Le Capitole" in N scale on the back burner. Thanks to this thread I remembered the train I always wanted so I started reading and now I just saw that minitrix will release the train in 2019. I guess I have to find a dealer who is willing to ship to New Zealand for a fair price and then start to save some money. Good times.  :D

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« Reply #173 on: July 29, 2018, 12:03:08 PM »
The DEV Vru Le Capitole dining car from Artrain/Transmondia has now finally been released. Price is a whopping €85 :o but trains160 has already sold out (at least the first batch they had received).

I have bought one and can say that for €85 (the most expensive coach I have ever bought) I had expected a bit more. No close-coupling mechanism, no flush windows (looks almost like those Minitrix coaches from 40 years ago!), the red is lighter than from the Artrain 4-car Capitole set and - the car won't negotiate even the largest radius curves! The wheels lock as soon as the car is not on a straight track! :doh:  Did I mention already that it costs €85? :-\

As soon as I ordered one from trains160 (they had got another item in stock which I wanted and so I ordered one despite the high price to save postage at least), of course one appeared on ebay which I thought would end for a much lower price. But the one on ebay went up to ... €161.50! :smiley-laughing: (while it was still available new!) despite the honest description: "Really beautiful, runs fine on forward track, it slow down in courbes, I can't understand why." :hmmm:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332720446251

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Re: Any SNCF modellers?
« Reply #174 on: July 29, 2018, 01:33:19 PM »
The DEV Vru Le Capitole dining car from Artrain/Transmondia has now finally been released. Price is a whopping €85 :o but trains160 has already sold out (at least the first batch they had received).



My pre-order for the Corail liveried one from AFAN has disappeared over the years, and I truly cannot justify the price being asked for this restaurant car. So it will be a "pass" from me.
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« Reply #175 on: July 29, 2018, 03:17:20 PM »
I truly cannot justify the price being asked for this restaurant car. So it will be a "pass" from me.


The price isn't justifiable at all. Even when considering that it is a very limited edition, close-coupling and flush window glazing have to be standard now in these price regions. New LS Models coaches cost around €65, and they are miles apart visually. Considering that Minitrix has not announced a dining car for their Capitole and the price of the ebay auction, I see mine as a great investment. :laugh:





The other cars are from the Artrain 4-car UIC Capitole set (which, btw, had flush glazing already). The inset window is particularly noticeable on the horizontal bars in the kitchen area. Also, the windows are not completely flat.





The dining car is a lighter red and the white stripe is lower than on the UIC cars. Some washers on the bogies would improve running through curves and bring the Vru to the same level. Although, compared with LS Models Mistral 69 cars, the Artrain Vru still sits too high - the top stripe should be at the same height. Here a photo of a Capitole Vru with Mistral 69 cars in the TEE Cisalpin:
http://forum.e-train.fr/trains/download/file.php?id=529717

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« Reply #176 on: July 29, 2018, 04:35:38 PM »
Sadly it seems like an all-round fail, design/conception, decoration and operation all falling short.

The original Artrain UIC Y coaches were tooled by Dynam nearly 30 years ago with the flush glazing, and I am very surprised that these restaurant cars have been made with inset glazing.

On the French N Forum some months back there was a lot of discussion about issues with the final decoration which were delaying production, with the claim that the person/company doing the tampo printing was being too punctilious!

The fact that they cannot be run in a train around a curve rather undermines the value of having the coach at all. I think Minitrix will be staring at an open goal if they decide to tool up for the restaurant which even if it cost 85 euros would for certain run properly, have flush glazing, proper decoration and lettering, and have a working close coupler system.


Several years back I started a drawing for an etched brass overlay side for the "gril express" coach to adapt a Dynam/Artrain UIC Y.  I did offer a version of it to Serge at Transmondia as a quick way to bring the long delayed restaurant car to market. Might have to dust it off if it is still on my current computer.


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« Reply #177 on: August 01, 2018, 12:18:00 AM »

Several years back I started a drawing for an etched brass overlay side for the "gril express" coach to adapt a Dynam/Artrain UIC Y.  I did offer a version of it to Serge at Transmondia as a quick way to bring the long delayed restaurant car to market. Might have to dust it off if it is still on my current computer.


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« Reply #178 on: August 21, 2018, 11:32:18 AM »
I'd like to contribute to this topic. My son and me, we are also enthusiastic of french trains. Actually more than 12% of videos in my Youtube channel shows french trains of our collections. Let me share some of them.

On my son's layout. (Dedicated to quinntopia and Dodesir)
 

On my own layout. (Still on build up process)
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