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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2020, 05:07:22 PM »
A really excellent collection of saddle tank models. Alas, all the ex-GWR BR WR Peckett saddle tanks that I can find were 0-4-0STs. However, there were the GWR 1361 0-6-0STs and the 1366 0-6-PTs. Have you considered 3D printing those?

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2020, 09:32:32 PM »
A really excellent collection of saddle tank models. Alas, all the ex-GWR BR WR Peckett saddle tanks that I can find were 0-4-0STs. However, there were the GWR 1361 0-6-0STs and the 1366 0-6-PTs. Have you considered 3D printing those?

Hi Chris - yes, in fact some years ago I hacked a 2F body about and bought a spare Grafar PT for a tank to graft on to make a 1366. The sizes didn't really match  so I parked the project. I'm aware there was a Beaver whitemetal kit of the 1366 designed for the Minitrix chassis but that's extremely hard to find thse days. The 1361 with its high cab roof would also be a feasible fit.

The GWR does seem to have used Peckett B1 0-6-0s .

Did you spot my 0-4-0 Peckett bodies - these could be made up as GWR examples.

On my one-day list is the GWR 1101 class 0-4-0 based on a Fleischmann 7000 chassis.
 
I'm a bit 3D'd out at the moment, but will come back to it I'm sure!

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2020, 10:11:40 PM »
Hi Mike,

Thank you for your quick and informative reply. If there was room for one of the latest tiny DCC chips inside, one of those GWR Peckett 0-4-0STs like the Swansea Harbour Trust No. 1143 (withdrawn November 1960) and 1145 (July 1959) or Powlesland and Mason 1152 (December 1961) which lasted to 1959-1961, would be very interesting preserved as Castle Estate's shunters at Trevelver Castle. The only GWR Peckett 0-6-0ST to last into BR ownership was No. 680 and then only just being withdrawn in December 1948 so I would leave that one.

I do, however, particularly like the GWR 1101 class 0-4-0Ts, Nos. 1101-1106 which lasted until 1959-60, so would be very interested when you decide to produce a 3D body, ditto the GWR 1366  and 1361 tank locos. I'm sure that others would like these, too.

On the subject of 0-4-0Ts, the SR B4 dock tanks, 30081-30103, which lasted to 1949-1963, would be very nice and popular models. (I plan plans and info. for those.) Again, something that you might want to consider, later? I do understand though that it's a great deal of work to create a 3D object from 2D plans.

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2020, 10:57:36 PM »
Hi Mike,

If there was room for one of the latest tiny DCC chips inside, one of those GWR Peckett 0-4-0STs like the Swansea Harbour Trust No. 1143 (withdrawn November 1960) and 1145 (July 1959) or Powlesland and Mason 1152 (December 1961) which lasted to 1959-1961, would be very interesting preserved as Castle Estate's shunters at Trevelver Castle.


The tank is hollow with a semi-cylindrical space approx 25mm x 12mm x radius 6mm. The B3s have a central vertical conduit for the securing bolt, but I've removed that on the others. I'm strictly DC so haven't looked into this. There's an article somewhere on here about DCCing a 2F.

I do understand though that it's a great deal of work to create a 3D object from 2D plans.

Transcribing scale dimensions is fairly easy - the trick is making it fit an available chassis!

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2020, 04:50:14 PM »
Hi Mike,

If there was room for one of the latest tiny DCC chips inside, one of those GWR Peckett 0-4-0STs like the Swansea Harbour Trust No. 1143 (withdrawn November 1960) and 1145 (July 1959) or Powlesland and Mason 1152 (December 1961) which lasted to 1959-1961, would be very interesting preserved as Castle Estate's shunters at Trevelver Castle.


The tank is hollow with a semi-cylindrical space approx 25mm x 12mm x radius 6mm. The B3s have a central vertical conduit for the securing bolt, but I've removed that on the others. I'm strictly DC so haven't looked into this. There's an article somewhere on here about DCCing a 2F.

I do understand though that it's a great deal of work to create a 3D object from 2D plans.

Transcribing scale dimensions is fairly easy - the trick is making it fit an available chassis!

Mike

Thanks, Mike. Now, I understand better.

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2020, 07:53:12 PM »
Hi Mike,

If there was room for one of the latest tiny DCC chips inside, one of those GWR Peckett 0-4-0STs like the Swansea Harbour Trust No. 1143 (withdrawn November 1960) and 1145 (July 1959) or Powlesland and Mason 1152 (December 1961) which lasted to 1959-1961, would be very interesting preserved as Castle Estate's shunters at Trevelver Castle.


The tank is hollow with a semi-cylindrical space approx 25mm x 12mm x radius 6mm. The B3s have a central vertical conduit for the securing bolt, but I've removed that on the others. I'm strictly DC so haven't looked into this. There's an article somewhere on here about DCCing a 2F.

Here's a peep underneath the 0-4-0:



You can explore it in 3D...

I was thinking ballast weight in that area, but the two shouldn't be mutually exclusive.

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2020, 09:15:48 PM »
Thanks, Mike. If it is possible to dit one of the new tiny DCC chops in the cab of one of the old Minitrix Fowler Dock Tanks (something else I would like to have) then there should be room in one of your Pechett 0-4-0STs, Swansea Harbour Trust No. 1143 (withdrawn November 1960) and 1145 (July 1959) or Powlesland and Mason 1152 (December 1961) which lasted to 1959-1961. Is it a modified Minitrix 0-6-0T chassis that you use, please?

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2020, 12:19:19 AM »
Is it a modified Minitrix 0-6-0T chassis that you use, please?

Yes, indeed. Basically the middle axle is de-wheeled.

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2020, 08:28:04 AM »
Is it a modified Minitrix 0-6-0T chassis that you use, please?

Yes, indeed. Basically the middle axle is de-wheeled.

Mike

Thanks, Mike, very clearly explained and illustrated.

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2020, 02:56:53 PM »
Any chance of adding the body detailing?

I was focused on making some easily swapable bodies, and the reality of 3D printing today is lots of priming and rubbing down before painting.

I thought about including more details, but the Smooth Fine Detail Plastic is quite brittle, so things like safety valves, pipes, reversing rods, etc, if desired, are better added from wire after surface preparation.

This technique sucks you in with the promise of perfectability, but you have to draw a line at some point. I chose to include handrails and smoke box door details and leave it there.

Alternative domes, valves and chimneys are available from N Brass Locos and Superglue easily to SFDP.

Mike

Hi @Only Me - belated apologies for my defeatist reply to this last year. Several models later, my confidence in FUD when carefully structured has increased:



I'm honestly surprised that the safety valves and reversing rod survived, but they have so far!

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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2020, 03:13:21 PM »
On the subject of 0-4-0Ts, the SR B4 dock tanks, 30081-30103, which lasted to 1949-1963, would be very nice and popular models. (I plan plans and info. for those.) Again, something that you might want to consider, later? I do understand though that it's a great deal of work to create a 3D object from 2D plans.

There was a nice kit fore the SR B4 dock tank in the Wills range that Peco own. Sadly Peco refused to re-run it even when I offered to buy a batch, and also refused to sell the tooling when I asked. In fact they had to cheek to reply asking if instead I'd like to advertise in their magazine.

Very sad.

That one used the old (but almost indestructible) Arnold 0-4-0 chassis.

They show up on ebay etc very occasionally.

I'm really impressed with the range on offer. I now have a terrible urge to buy a B1 and make it up with some four wheel mock GWR coaches like the crappy Hornby OO GWR 101 8) Would have to move the motor to a coach to cut the cab down though... Hmmm ;)
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Re: 3D Peckett B2 0-6-0
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2020, 06:51:17 PM »
I'm really impressed with the range on offer.

Thank you. It's been easy to offer variants once the basic fit was sorted.

I now have a terrible urge to buy a B1 and make it up with some four wheel mock GWR coaches like the crappy Hornby OO GWR 101 8) Would have to move the motor to a coach to cut the cab down though... Hmmm ;)

Obviously the Pecketts aren't true to scale, but have justified me getting those 2F/T3 chasses back into useful service. With a small layout and a limited number of trains operating its possible to be fairly consistent in scale, even if it's not quite N.

As I've written before, if some Pecketts (and Barclays) were available RTR, or outside cylinder 0-4-0/0-6-0 chasses were readily available and reasonably priced, I'd never have made these. As it is, I have the right locos in the wrong size rather than the wrong locos in the right size, which is an alternative authenticity!

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