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Author Topic: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?  (Read 1149 times)

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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2020, 08:41:03 AM »
Echoing fisherman's reply #27, I also worry about the boredom factor. I'd soon get sick of a stretch of line as a layout, even when it was double track, yet alone single!

Let's face it, with exception of some small end to end layouts, most exhibition layouts have trains appearing on one side, then disappearing into the fiddleyard at the other.

When I'm at home, I prefer to play trains with sidings, stations, etc. I can go to an exhibition to watch trains simply going past.

And to stir things further, I stick with my interpretation that the original proposed method of construction is absurd.

Once again, sorry!
« Last Edit: February 24, 2020, 08:42:10 AM by Bealman »
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2020, 04:04:15 PM »

   ...tbf... after a  river  cruise I did consider  building a layout based on  the   trackside  railways along  the   river  Rhine !

( double  track )

spectacular scenery and a  great variety of trains !

The scenic section might have to be a  bit  narrow to access the  fiddle yard behind !
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2020, 09:07:14 PM »
@Ginger_Avenger
Having read your initial post again and all the following replies, all I can say is - it's your railway. you do what pleases you.  :beers:
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2020, 07:05:15 AM »
A 50cm depth is nowhere near enough to get any worthwhile scenery in. To get scenery anywhere near approaching spectacular you will need at least a one metre depth, preferably more. Trying to cram big scenery into a small depth will just look wrong. This is a common fault on layouts of all scales.
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2020, 07:23:47 AM »
Memories of John Allen's Gore and Dephetied in America!

Classic layout, scenery stretched from floor to ceiling!!
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2020, 07:39:32 AM »
However, having noted your reply, it's quite obvious that this cliff on my layout is quite ridiculous.... look at the scale of the train below!

But it closer to 20cm than 50.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2020, 08:59:32 AM »
it's quite obvious that this cliff on my layout is quite ridiculous.... look at the scale of the train below!


Ridiculous ..... you want ridiculous, (that is a Class 47 on the rails) -



'The Mountain' on Averingcliffe is 28 cm high!  :goggleeyes:

I would add that 'The Mountain' is so high as there are two rail lines running through it, although, on reflection, I could have got away with it being not quite so high.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2020, 09:09:42 AM by dannyboy, Reason: added a bit »
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2020, 09:35:25 AM »
Sorry chaps but I wouldn't call almost vertical cliffs shooting up from dead flat land dramatic scenery, merely a good way of creating a backdrop to your model railway. Dramatic scenery, which is what the OP was after, needs to be proper landscape with hills and valleys on both sides of the track. The track needs to look as though it was forged through the undulating land and always be on an embankment or in a cutting; that's what real railways are like. I reckon it is where the interesting but slightly potty concept of building the hills and valleys first and then putting a railway through it comes from. The above two examples are typical model railway where track and buildings have been laid on a piece of flat board and a bit of scenery added behind the railway. This is fine if you want it and is very much the way things are done in the model railway world but, from what the OP has said, I don't think it is what he is after.
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2020, 09:40:19 AM »
If you want big scenery check out this N gauge layout I saw at the Blackpool show in 2015.......


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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2020, 09:43:31 AM »
If you want big scenery check out this N gauge layout I saw at the Blackpool show in 2015.......



Very nice but that's a little more than 50cm wide!
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2020, 09:44:10 AM »
I agree with what you are saying @Chris Morris  , but, in my defence, when I started Averingcliffe five years ago, I did not know any different. Since being a member of the forum, I have learnt so much from other members. If I do make another 'full size' layout, I would do a lot of things differently. I like the idea of what the OP is proposing.
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2020, 10:16:30 AM »
Chris, like this perhaps?

Sorry, but it's the closest I've got on my layout.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2020, 11:22:02 AM »
Exactly.
Working doesn't seem to be the perfect thing for me so I'll continue to play.
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2020, 11:27:50 AM »
I agree with what you are saying @Chris Morris  , but, in my defence, when I started Averingcliffe five years ago, I did not know any different. Since being a member of the forum, I have learnt so much from other members. If I do make another 'full size' layout, I would do a lot of things differently. I like the idea of what the OP is proposing.

We are all learning as we go. Always remember there is no right or wrong in building a model railway; it's about what suits your requirements at the time, and also about compromise between what you would like to do and how much space you have to do it.
I just think 50cm depth won't give the effect desired on this case.
Working doesn't seem to be the perfect thing for me so I'll continue to play.
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Re: Has anybody tried dramatic scenery with a side of railway?
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2020, 04:38:50 PM »
Iím quite new to this and not everyone would like my layout, but as @Chris Morris says itís about compromise.

Is my layout a compromise? Sure. In terms of space, scenery and my available budget. But I didnít want a project that went on for years and was overly complicated.

How about doing a mock up of part of the layout first? Might give you a better idea of what sort of dramatic scenery you can fit it the 50cm depth compared to what your vision might be.

 

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