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Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« on: January 13, 2020, 04:52:04 PM »
I want to take the motor out of Graham Farish (Bachmann) Hughes-Fowler Crab and replace the tender with Union Mills powered tender. Having looked at locomotive I can find no way of removing the body from the chassis. Is it necessary to remove the wheel-set first? Can anyone offer any advice, I do not have a service sheet although I suppose I can always approach Bachmann.

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 05:07:02 PM »
From memory it is just the one screw that also holds the front pony truck in. It goes through the chassis and screws into the body below the chimney. Remove that and the body should just lift off but you may have to lift out whilst pulling forward as the chassis should have 2 lugs at the rear which slot into the cab.

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 06:12:53 PM »
Many thanks for that. I shall try again and will let you know how I get on. I suspect someone (not me) has been using a bit glue somewhere. But thanks again.

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2020, 08:33:01 PM »
What is the original problem with the Crab? Is this all necessary? They generally run (or can be made to run) well....

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2020, 11:21:47 PM »
As the Crab is (still?) essentially a Poole designed loco I would be surprised if it ever had a service sheet.  I have 2 and they are lovely runners.

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2020, 07:46:10 AM »
The worst aspect of the Farish Crab is the oversized tender, so I can understand the desire to replace that - mine (now sold on) was paired with a BHE Kit version...

However if I was doing it now, I would look to the Fowler tender from a latest version 4F rather than a UM tender.

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2020, 08:57:50 AM »
The worst aspect of the Farish Crab is the oversized tender, so I can understand the desire to replace that - mine (now sold on) was paired with a BHE Kit version...

However if I was doing it now, I would look to the Fowler tender from a latest version 4F rather than a UM tender.

The UM Fowler tender is also over-scale.

The easiest method is to attach a BH Enterprises whitemetal tender - I agree, and have done this on several Crabs and older 4Fs - this is a very nice kit. Finding new tool tenders from new 4Fs would be a challenge in terms of supply I think.

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2020, 01:32:18 PM »
Many thanks everyone for your advice. It will be the weekend before I do anything more.

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2020, 05:13:06 PM »
if its running fine--leave well alone.  ok--blacken the wheels, real coal ( a must), crew, added filth.
then--use it.
i used to be indecisive...but now i'm not so sure.

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Re: Graham Farish Hughes/Fowler Crab
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 10:00:19 PM »
Thank you all for your advice. The chassis started further back than I was expecting, just in front of the cylinders. Rotor now removed and where there was copper winding there is now daylight down the length of the firebox between the footplate and the chassis but that shouldn't be too difficult to get rid of!

 

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