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HST Names Help
« on: October 09, 2019, 10:59:21 PM »
Hi all,

Do any of you good folk know where I can find a full list of the names that were carried by HST power cars? I am looking in particular at the Virgin HST west coast and cross country fleets that were replace by the Voyager fleets
So far all I have been able to find is current lists of speculative lists with no firm details of numbers and names that were carried while they were in Virgin livery.

Thank you

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Re: HST Names Help
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 11:23:37 PM »
Wikipedia lists some.
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Re: HST Names Help
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2019, 11:28:50 PM »
Wikipedia lists some.
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Sadly Wiki only has current names with no details of when they were applied so can't be sure if they were carried when the needed ones were in Virgin Service

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Re: HST Names Help
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2019, 11:31:59 PM »
gareth

hi


i have found these :

https://www.125group.org.uk/past-operators/history/#



https://www.125group.org.uk/past-operators/virgin-cross-country/


43100 Craigentinny
43068 The Red Nose
43098 The Railway Children
43154 InterCity


i sadly am unsure of any others named except those on the Western / Eastern. I only saw Cross Country Hsts and Ac electrics


Chris
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Re: HST Names Help
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2019, 11:09:18 AM »
i may have to dig out old books gareth


 the first InterCity 125 Euston - Holyhead services were in 1987


two Laira based Great Western sets (LA22 and LA27) were allocated to sub-sector IWCW for the North Wales services. By the start of 1994 there were three Laira based sets (sub-sector IWCX) for the North Wales services (LA12, LA17 and LA31 - the latter had been formed up of spare vehicles).

HSTs did appear on the WCML in the mid-1980s on a limited number CrossCountry services from the South West to Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester Piccadilly. They appeared in greater numbers after the ECML cascade when Cragentinny had an allocation of sets that started working the likes of the Cornish Scot (Glasgow Central - Penzance), Devon Scot (Aberdeen - Plymouth via WCML) and Wessex Scot (Glasgow Central - Poole). As an aside, the Sussex Scot (Glasgow or Edinburgh to Brighton) never went over to HST operation.


1991 - first proper West Coast HST services. Used sets made spare by East Coast electrification which were added to the Western Region pool. Although some sets/power cars were allocated to IWC_ pools this was purely for cost
allocation/accountancy purposes.


Sets were taken from the WR allocation and worked over from Old Oak to Euston to form a Holyhead service. They would stay for a couple of days, then swap over again, so any WR set could be used.


1994 - in the run up to privatisation the decision was taken to give West Coast three dedicated sets (sets 12, 17, 31 as above) with 7 power cars (43028/029/041/042/164-166), all reallocated to Longsight. It was at this point that Euston-Manchester trains were added to diagrams to get sets back to Manchester for maintenance.


Post 1997, the Virgin XC and Virgin WC power car fleet was pooled to give efficiency gains. Blackpool services were also added during this time for a while.


my only other point the InterCity / Swallow livery i have seen one named, 2 / 3 used but but cannot remember which power car

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Re: HST Names Help
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2019, 11:57:50 AM »
Buy an old Ian Allan or Platform 5 spotters book for the year(s) you are interested in? Should be able to get them pretty cheap either from Ebay/Amazon or at preserved lines.



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Re: HST Names Help
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 09:25:09 AM »
From 2002 Platform 5 loco book:

43063 Maiden Voyager
43068 The Red Arrows
43071 Forward Birmingham
43078 Golowan Festival Penzance
43084 County of Derbyshire
43092 Institution of Mechanical Engineers 150th Anniversary 1847-1997
43093 Lady in Red
43098 railwaychildren
43122 South Yorkshire Metropolitan County
43153 THE ENGLISH RIVIERA TORQUAY PAIGNTON BRIXHAM
43154 INTERCITY
43155 City of Aberdeen
43158 Dartmoor The Pony Express
43180 City of Newcastle upon Tyne
43193 Plymouth SPIRT OF DISCOVERY
43195 British Red Cross 125th Birthday 1995
43196 The Newspaper Society Founded 1836
43197 The RAILWAY MAGAZINE
43198 HMS Penzance

The list is in the case and punctuation that the nameplates were in .

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Re: HST Names Help
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2019, 07:44:39 PM »
Modern locomotives illustrated has 2 issues on the HST.

Nos 208 and 209.

They usually list fleet names and numbers, history etc.

Excellent mags for info, colour in action shots etc. All for under a fiver.

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