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Class 319 breaks cover
« on: September 15, 2019, 11:56:06 AM »
According to RMWeb, an engineering prototype of the 319 is on show at TINGS

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/147513-farish-class-319/







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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2019, 12:17:41 PM »
Not the best angle in the cabinet to photograph....









Note electrical connections between coaches

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2019, 12:23:03 PM »
I remember seeing and travelling on them from the earliest days of Thameslink in 1988 whilst a student in London.

I doubt they'll equip them with a servo to raise and lower the pantograph in the way Bachmann's class 90 electric is similarly treated.
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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2019, 12:33:33 PM »
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ex thameslink- which livery looks crisper / neater

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2019, 06:40:13 AM »
having a chance to have a good look at the 319 at tings , some of the issues that were brought up with the face of the model on the first cads seem to have made it to this first ep  , shame as the rest of this seems to be good , bachmann are generally better but emu faces seem to really test rtr manufactures , i was upset we didnt get a 4 vep that hornby did until i saw it in the flesh,

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2019, 06:52:56 AM »
Should be something to look forward to.

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2019, 08:02:30 AM »
I doubt they'll equip them with a servo to raise and lower the pantograph in the way Bachmann's class 90 electric is similarly treated.
Some 319s have been converted to bi-mode as 769s, though they seem to be taking forever to get into service.  Modelling one of those would be just a matter of a different underframe moulding to represent the diesel engine on the end cars - but the servo pantograph would be useful for this. 

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2019, 08:20:15 AM »
It definitely looked a bit flat faced, just lacking in relief, and the headlights looked odd, but that may just be because it wasnít painted.

Electrical connectivity between coaches is great, they had 4 pins, so presumably enough for a single decoder... Revolution are doing the same on the 321, interested to see both implementations. The Pendolino runs so well just for having electrical connectivity through wired.

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2019, 08:57:26 AM »
It definitely looked a bit flat faced, just lacking in relief, and the headlights looked odd, but that may just be because it wasnít painted.

Electrical connectivity between coaches is great, they had 4 pins, so presumably enough for a single decoder... Revolution are doing the same on the 321, interested to see both implementations. The Pendolino runs so well just for having electrical connectivity through wired.

I am pleased I am not the only one who noticed something about the ďFaceĒ of the 319. It was the first thing that jumped out at me (after the shock of it actually being there subsided).

I do believe painting will help matters though, even if it gives the illusion of depth / relief.

In a similar vein, I am interested to hear thoughts and opinions on the DBSO, is there a thread for that?

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2019, 09:05:07 AM »
At risk of continuing that tangent I donít have much to say on the DBSOs, but the IC Swallow mk2f looked stunning.

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2019, 12:34:23 PM »
I doubt they'll equip them with a servo to raise and lower the pantograph in the way Bachmann's class 90 electric is similarly treated.
Some 319s have been converted to bi-mode as 769s, though they seem to be taking forever to get into service.  Modelling one of those would be just a matter of a different underframe moulding to represent the diesel engine on the end cars - but the servo pantograph would be useful for this.

Would be useful for those modelling overhead and third rail. I remember hearing the pantographs being raised and lowered on those EMUs at Farringdon where they originally changed from AC to DC and v.v.
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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2019, 06:06:40 PM »
It definitely looked a bit flat faced, just lacking in relief, and the headlights looked odd, but that may just be because it wasnít painted.

I am pleased I am not the only one who noticed something about the ďFaceĒ of the 319. It was the first thing that jumped out at me (after the shock of it actually being there subsided).

According to a thread on RMWeb, which compares photos, the light clusters are too big, the panels with the little handrails under the windows should be flush with the rest of the front, and there is a horizontal groove missing in the area of the same panels.  There also seems to be a suggestion that the corners of the side windows are too rounded. 

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2019, 06:53:34 PM »
The light clusters would look better when painted, the base metal is very cruel for depth perception, all the pictures Iíve looked at show the small handrails as protruding and not being flush with the sloping front. The front valance should also have a cut-out where the uncoupling lever is located.
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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2019, 06:57:06 PM »
Hi All,

There are a few things that look wrong to me on the model some of which have already been mentioned, which after this weekend via the forum or face to face the people at Farish will no doubt be aware of now!
While on the EP I can see errors I think the big test will be when liveries are applied as you can mask the errors if liveries are done well and I think in Fairness Farish are actually good when it come to that, just how ,ong we have to wait to see any sample liveries!

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Re: Class 319 breaks cover
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2019, 12:36:40 AM »
In a similar vein, I am interested to hear thoughts and opinions on the DBSO, is there a thread for that?

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