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Author Topic: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?  (Read 1085 times)

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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2019, 09:33:41 PM »
Now, since you're on the line, so to speak, what do you think of this model EMU:

https://www.traintrax.co.uk/101345-kumoha-nambu-branch-line-powered-p-1309.html

I know NOTHING about Japanese trains, but this looks like something relatively timeless to me. Old, but not ancient, and something that might tootle along a secondary line? It is even a particularly good model?

Any ideas if it'd work its way around ~30 cm radius curves? I've seen a circular mirror in a local junk shop with a 62 cm diameter, and wondered if it'd do as a base for such a project.



Unfortunately and ironically the Traintrax website is inaccessible from Japan, but deconstructing the URL I believe you are referring to this set:

http://www.katomodels.com/product/n/kumoha12

Very nice little models, minimum radius 150mm.

The base prototype class is a pre-war urban EMU design and one with a long and complex history involving many conversions and variants, which did indeed end up tootling along secondary lines, though mainly in urban areas (the Nanbu and Tsurumi branches mentioned on the Kato page basically run through industrial areas of Kawasaki). But they'd be just fine for your purpose  :thumbsup:

Here is a variant of the Kato model which I own:


Kato Kumoni 13 by Rail Squid, on Flickr

The protoype (running as a single car) on the Tsurumi Line:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8oCosaQWAk

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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2019, 10:46:14 PM »
Yes, that's the fellow!

"10-1345 KUMOHA 11 200 Nambu Branch Line 2 Car Set" according to TrainTrax, which matches "10-1345   クモハ11200 南武支線 2両セット" on the website you linked to.

So all good there.

Sounds a perfect start on a little piece of Japan in my home. Now I'll need a giant camphor tree for Tortoro to move into...

Cheers, NeMo

Edit: that video is very cool. The inside looks a lot like the inside of the train seen on 'Spirited Away'! I assume that's a fairly standard layout for Japanese EMUs, but fun to see in the flesh, so to speak.
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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2019, 01:35:10 AM »
One of the favourite parts of my trip to meet squiddy was sitting behind the driver on a secondary line, looking out the front at the track, just like the old DMUs I used to travel on between Darlington and Stockton!
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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2019, 02:37:29 AM »
One of the favourite parts of my trip to meet squiddy was sitting behind the driver on a secondary line, looking out the front at the track, just like the old DMUs I used to travel on between Darlington and Stockton!

Ah, so the whole Bealette-in-Kobe thing was just a very cunning ruse to meet my humble self?  :goggleeyes:

Edit: that video is very cool. The inside looks a lot like the inside of the train seen on 'Spirited Away'! I assume that's a fairly standard layout for Japanese EMUs, but fun to see in the flesh, so to speak.

Yup, bench seats all the way for urban EMUs. The style is of course "first generation", lots of wood and brass and actual nets in the luggage racks.
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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2019, 06:49:29 AM »
May I use this thread to ask a question about a Japanese mountain railway?
Of course this also shows some of the scenery around the only Japanese mountain railway (that's what they say...)
https://japantravel.navitime.com/en/area/jp/spot/02301-2100267/

But the question is: how does the passing loop work???  :confused1:

Another photo here. No point blades or crossing V??
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Hakone_Tozan_Cable_Line_01.jpg


That's a funicular, no idea how that's supposed to work (though I have been up there a couple of times).


Turns out it's quite simple - what look like chunky point blades don't actually move, the wheels on that side just roll over them.

That is facilitated by having the wheels on the outer rail having double flanges, and the wheels on the inner rail having no flanges at all - see e.g. this page:

http://www.mitaketozan.co.jp/mwp2014/mex2018/004.html
« Last Edit: August 24, 2019, 06:51:12 AM by railsquid »
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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2019, 11:21:57 AM »
Turns out it's quite simple - what look like chunky point blades don't actually move, the wheels on that side just roll over them.

Thanks for finding the answer!
I would never have guessed how this works!!

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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2019, 06:10:59 PM »
Thanks @railsquid

Order has been placed with site sponsor @Traintrax alongside some catenary and an amusing little ready-to-plant Japanese shop that might provide further inspiration.

Looking forward to owning my second Kato piece of traction, if the first piece (running flawlessly since 1999) is anything to go by! Definitely getting excited about modelling something completely different to my usual 1970s West Country safe-space.

Now, I wonder if can ask Kato to send me some review items for use in the N Gauge Society Journal!  ;)

Cheers, NeMo

Unfortunately and ironically the Traintrax website is inaccessible from Japan, but deconstructing the URL I believe you are referring to this set:

http://www.katomodels.com/product/n/kumoha12

Very nice little models, minimum radius 150mm.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 06:12:29 PM by NeMo »
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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2019, 09:24:27 PM »
If you don't mind buying from Japan (and it's no hassle) and want a much bigger choice, try https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/rail/ very reliable source of all things Japanese.
Welcome to the slippery slope  ;)

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Re: Any UK dealers of Japanese building KITS?
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2019, 01:31:32 AM »
Model Train Plus Japan are very helpful ( ship,as toy trains)

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=34824.0 
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