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Re: Future plans
« Reply #390 on: July 16, 2019, 01:47:37 PM »
yes it is vey 80s /90s

part of a speedlink train !!!!

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #391 on: July 16, 2019, 02:06:46 PM »
I take it the PBA is no longer available on Shapeways?

Stuart, do you want to state the case for the PBA as a future model from RevolutioN?
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Re: Future plans
« Reply #392 on: July 16, 2019, 02:59:00 PM »
VDA Van - can't believe Bachmann haven't shrunk their OO version
OTA Timber wagon - available as a kit
PWA UKF Fertiliser bogie vans - 3D print available, and I've got one in the "to do" pile
PHV ICI Hopper wagons - 3D print available
PBA Tiger China Clay bogie wagons (possible link up with Kernow?)
JGA RMC Hopper wagons - RFS 1990 version
JHA ARC low track force bogie wagons
PHA Yeoman O&K aggregate wagons - would complement the N Soc ex TPM tippler kits
Holdall Norsk Hydro Ferrywagons
Continental VTG compressed gas bogie tank, to 1:148 scale!!
BOC Tanks
BBA Steel Wagon - Might Cavalex shrink theirs?

Hi all,

If all these became available I'd be skint for a long time!

Instilling a bit of discipline on myself leaves me with 4 or 5 'must have' choices from the list.

OTA Timber wagon
PWA UKF Fertiliser bogie vans
PBA Tiger China Clay bogie wagons
Holdall Norsk Hydro Ferrywagons
Continental VTG compressed gas bogie tank

Much as I love building kits - RTR for some of these is the way to go.

Chivers OTA - build it square and true - then watch it distort over time. Kit not readily available either.

Thanks
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Re: Future plans
« Reply #393 on: July 16, 2019, 03:07:02 PM »
The types you found on speedlink rakes on the corpach timber or the mossend chirk timber trains? 30 odd years ago. What about the ravenscraig llanwern steel coil trains ive seen, those wagons?

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #394 on: July 17, 2019, 11:47:53 AM »

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #395 on: July 17, 2019, 12:04:56 PM »


Chivers OTA - build it square and true - then watch it distort over time. Kit not readily available either.

Thanks
Phil H


Thought the ex Chiver's kit was available from here:

http://www.slimrails.co.uk/indexNgauge.html

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #396 on: July 17, 2019, 12:08:06 PM »

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #397 on: July 17, 2019, 01:13:16 PM »


Chivers OTA - build it square and true - then watch it distort over time. Kit not readily available either.

Thanks
Phil H


Thought the ex Chiver's kit was available from here:

http://www.slimrails.co.uk/indexNgauge.html

Hi Stuart,

Yea - That is the order point I used.

I tried to order recently but was told out of stock.

Thanks
Phil H

ps - I have an ebay search running for them as well - seller id kitlady does occasionally have some.
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Re: Future plans
« Reply #398 on: July 17, 2019, 01:23:57 PM »
Would anybody else produce if out of stock?

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #399 on: July 17, 2019, 01:56:31 PM »
I take it the PBA is no longer available on Shapeways?

Stuart, do you want to state the case for the PBA as a future model from RevolutioN?

I'd love a couple if they were made.  Not sure I've got the experience/knowledge to state the case for it though.

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #400 on: July 17, 2019, 02:03:05 PM »
I take it the PBA is no longer available on Shapeways?

Stuart, do you want to state the case for the PBA as a future model from RevolutioN?

I'd love a couple if they were made.  Not sure I've got the experience/knowledge to state the case for it though.

Kernow models own the tooling and design for OO PBA's, i would have thought they would be your best bet, as they're part way down the road already.
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Re: Future plans
« Reply #401 on: September 20, 2019, 02:19:05 PM »
Id like to see more MUs, 313/317 type sets, I dont hold out hope though as the 320/321 has been a bit of a slow project, maybe the MU especially EMU trains just dont appeal to most modelers.

Well, Ben and Mike have just gone and announced the class 313 so I thought I would pick the other half of this post and propose a class 317 EMU along with my reasoning.

Class 317/1

The class 317/1s were built in 1980 for the newly electrified Bedford - St Pancras line and the Widened Lines branch to Moorgate. They were the first production units to be built using the new steel Mk3 surburban bodyshell. They were rather boxy in appearance with unique letterbox window ventilators and were unkindly described at the time as having been designed by a colour-blind spot-welder with a grudge. When new, they were delivered in blue/grey livery. They quickly spread to become one of the most widely travelled EMU units in the south-east.



The 317/1s were quickly displaced from the Bed-Pan line by the arrival of the class 319 units and Thameslink. In spite of this, the class returned to their original home many times to work supplemental services to Moorgate, right up until the current decade. Initially, the class was split between the WCML out of Euston and the ECML out of King's Cross where they worked outer suburban services alongside the inner suburban 313s. With increasing deliveries of 321s on the WCML, they migrated to the ECML and West Anglian routes out of Liverpool Street and were repainted in NSE livery.

317334 at South Kenton in 1988 with the Watford DC lines in the foreground.


317344 at Bethnal Green with a service to Liverpool Street in 2003, still wearing NSE livery nearly 10 years after privatisation.


317315 on a service to York on the ECML. This unusual working was the result of a derailment at Sandy. Normally the class worked the services to Peterborough, Cambridge and Kings Lynn.


Following privatisation, the class went on to wear a truly spectacular array of liveries as they continued working on various London suburban routes. They added the London, Tilbury and Southend route of Fenchurch street to their CV meaning they have worked on every 25KV route into the capital apart from the GWML. Not only that but they have worked alongside classes 313, 319 and 321, all of which are coming soon RTR which means that anyone modelling a 25KV line in the south east can probably fit one of these units in.

317307 in LTS Rail livery on a down train at Barking.


WAGN Class 317 No. 317340 at Welwyn Garden City


In 2000, nine Class 317/1 units were selected to be refurbished for the dedicated Stansted Express service and received new window frames and a revised front end design. The nine units were reclassified as Class 317/7 and would require a different tooling. But the remainder of the class received a much lighter refresh and still basically resemble their original condition although now being spread across assorted subclasses. Here is a gallery of some of the liveries the class has worn over the years, I am sure their are others.

317506 at Liverpool Street in National Express livery


317348 at Peterborough in FCC livery



317891 in London Overground livery at Enfield Town


317345 in "black stripe" livery at Cambridge


317348 at Cambridge North in Great Northern livery
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Re: Future plans
« Reply #402 on: September 20, 2019, 02:28:08 PM »
thanks karhedron

could be potentially  quite an exciting model to look out for in the future

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #403 on: September 20, 2019, 09:35:55 PM »

Hi Matthew,

That is a brilliant pitch and exactly the kind of thing that grabs the attention.

The 317s also appear to share considerable similarities with the 455/8 series.

Cheers

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Re: Future plans
« Reply #404 on: September 20, 2019, 09:51:52 PM »

Hi Matthew,

That is a brilliant pitch and exactly the kind of thing that grabs the attention.

The 317s also appear to share considerable similarities with the 455/8 series.

Cheers

Ben A.

Ben, if 455s became viable than I would need to have at least 4 as I grew up riding them and went to collage on them.

Oh and of course our own @Tank would pass out with excitement....

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