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Author Topic: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?  (Read 366 times)

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Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« on: June 11, 2019, 12:37:52 AM »
I have a case where I want to use some Peco 'N' setrack points in a non-scenic area and I want to electrically operate them. Since appearances aren't important I would prefer surface mounted point motors, that is, units which lie on the surface by the side of the point rather than under the base board.

As far as I know, while Peco do a surface mount point motor for their 00 gauge points, they don't appear to make a scaled down version for their 'N' track. Are there any third party surface mount point motors suitable for 'N' setrack points? 

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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2019, 02:54:54 AM »
Peco point motors work with both gauges. They can be mounted above the baseboard in both gauges. Peco supply mounting plates and hardware to allow their standard motors to be used.

Obviously they are more obtrusive in N than 00, and therefore harder to conceal with scenery, though with ingenuity it is possible.

However, as you say, in non-scenic areas, this is not a factor.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2019, 02:56:44 AM by Bealman »
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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2019, 06:56:34 AM »
@siriushardware

This Topic may help. Note that in general you will need to install the PL-11 2-3mm below the Peco track bed.

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=31218.0

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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2019, 09:55:23 AM »
If you don't follow Colin's advice, the bar from the motor will ride up over the tie-bar nipple.  A spot of glue may still be necessary.
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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2019, 10:16:31 AM »
Just use the Peco hardware to go with their points as per their instructions?
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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2019, 10:34:13 AM »
I never mount point motors under the baseboard; for most point operation I use wire in tube, in some cases for example where the wire run is too long or at an awkward angle I surface mount Peco motors hidden by scenery, or buildings and using a short length of wire in tube between the motor and the point; it is also possible to operate 2 points of a crossover with one motor by using cranks, I did try one motor with wire and cranks for a scissors but the motor does not have enough power to operate 4 points.
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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2019, 12:21:20 PM »
I've used a mixture of Peco and SEEP surface mounted motors - I think I slightly prefer the SEEP ones.

Some of mine I've mounted slightly away from the point and linked them using a short length of wire-in-tube wire. This means they don't jump off the pip and makes them easier to disguise under scenery.

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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2019, 09:05:25 PM »
Thanks for all the helpful replies - I did read through that other thread.

Although the points are to be in a 'hidden' area, -I- will still have to see them and I think Peco PL-10s are not the prettiest things to put on the top side of a baseboard anywhere. I was really wondering if anyone else had made what Peco apparently have not, a cosmetically acceptable surface-mount point motor for 'N' - basically a scaled down version of the Peco PL-11.

Speaking of which, there are a few mentions around of PL-11s having been used for 'N' gauge (and that's what some of you were referring to above). Although very oversized, they might still look tidier than a top-mounted PL-10.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2019, 09:06:40 PM by siriushardware »

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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2019, 07:25:43 AM »
The only similar product seems to be the Gaugemaster PM20:
http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=GMC-PM20

This has the same problem as Peco's PL-11 in that you need to lower it to ensure it stays attached to the point's tie bar. I did have some success with a plastic shim on the underside of the motor's throw.

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Re: Surface mount point motors, Peco 'N' setrack?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2019, 10:58:54 PM »
Thanks for that 'pointer'. The PM20s look quite neat and low-profile but they are currently unobtainium (Not even Gaugemaster have them in stock - further supplies apparently on order).

 

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