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Offline Chris Morris

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Dave Jones
« on: June 07, 2019, 08:20:18 AM »
So DJ Models is no more. I think this is sad for Dave and very bad news for us N gaugers. I've lost my deposit on a king which is a shame but I fully realised there was a risk to this investment. There will no doubt be many people knocking DJM which is fair enough. 

At this difficult time I would like to say thanks to Dave Jones for all the work he did while at Dapol and for furthering the cause of British N gauge. I almost certainly would not have gone for N gauge if it wasn't for the models that Dapol produced while Dave was in charge of product development. I hope Dave gets over this and wish him well for the future.



« Last Edit: June 07, 2019, 12:11:17 PM by Chris Morris »

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Re: David Jones
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2019, 08:50:47 AM »
I too cant help but think of the man at the centre of this. I knew the risk whenI ordered my three Kings and treated the money as gone once I paid the first payment. My loss will be as nothing to the loss Dave Jones will be experiencing and I do feel for him. I spoke to him at the Perth Model Show a couple of years ago and his passion and desire to bring the King project to fruition was clear. It was why I was prepared to take the risk of investing in the crowd funded model.
I at least have the comfort of spending the money set aside to meet the second payment at Warley this year.  Things will be pretty bleak for Dave at the moment and I do wish him well and hope things turn for the better for him as soon as possible

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2019, 01:57:03 PM »
Well said guys.

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2019, 10:31:14 PM »
Great point about the models produced by Dapol when he was there, thinking about it they are many of my favourite models.

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2019, 05:57:58 AM »
As a fellow King deposit loser I would like to echo the comments above.
Thanks for the locos

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2019, 09:21:50 AM »
No idea how much the deposit was but if it's over 100 and you paid by credit card you may be able to claim back under "Section 75". https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/section-75-of-the-consumer-credit-act


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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2019, 09:51:46 AM »
I have to say you're all taking it better than I would have if I had lost money! This is a sad loss to the hobby I was very interested in the class 17 & 23 but would have had a J94 for sure. Fortunately for me the Thetford  Rd finance department doesn't like to pay out money without getting a loco, I only got away with the Hunslet because its coming through the Society. 

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2019, 10:28:23 AM »
I'm kinda pleased to see this thread taking a very different tone from the other thread.

Though more difficult when talking about a one-man-band, I thinks it's right to separate the person from the business. The failure of DJM will affect many, but I doubt that anyone will be more affected than Dave Jones. I can see this taking a terrible toll on his health and I fear for his mental health.

I hope this thread can continue as a more supportive (of the individual human being) counter point to the naturally more critical and damning (of the business) theme of the other thread. After all, I very much doubt that Dave Jones set out with the intention of hurting anybody.
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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2019, 12:18:01 PM »
I think the writing was on the wall after the failure of the class 17. There is a market for different models to the mainstream, look at Union Mills.

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2019, 12:50:25 PM »
I think the writing was on the wall after the failure of the class 17. There is a market for different models to the mainstream, look at Union Mills.

I agree. Just looking at RTR locos, we've got a UK 'brand' of a global manufacturer (Farish); we've got a homegrown manufacturer (Dapol); and we've got independents (like Union Mills), crowdfunded projects (like the Pendolino from Revolution), and a even one-off from the N Gauge Society in the form of the the Hunslet shunter.

Whatever has happened at DJM, like @Chris Morris I can't help but be grateful for Dave Jones' sterling work at Dapol. The development of the 'Baby Warship' and the 'Western' involved many expert modellers and enthusiasts of these classes in an unprecedented way, and the resulting models fully justified that effort.

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2019, 03:54:08 PM »
Sorry to hear this and I echo the sentiments of others on here.  I was looking forward to  a DCC ready J94 but Ill now have to source one elsewhere and have it converted.

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2019, 09:34:10 AM »
No idea how much the deposit was but if it's over 100 and you paid by credit card you may be able to claim back under "Section 75". https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/section-75-of-the-consumer-credit-act

Its for goods worth over the amount of 100 and not exceeding 30,000. Which means if the initial deposit was made using a credit card e.g 50 the consumer is covered by section 75 for the full amount, irrespective if the remaining balance was paid using a bank transfer or cheque.

Hope that helps.
 

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2019, 03:45:49 PM »
Yes I fully agree. Thanks to Dave and I hope he gets to see the positive comments.

Even if I do lose my King deposit, 67 is a small price to pay for trying to make something good happen, goodness knows how much money I have saved over the years from making good deals etc from bargain bins or auctions. It comes and goes, and I knew what I was in for when paying the deposit. Lets just hope someone buys the various CAD etc and tries again with some decent self funded monies.
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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2019, 04:00:18 AM »
Hi all
I will miss his models especially the items I had pre ordered and paid for. Like others have said we have lost only a small amount compared the Dave Im sure plus all the negative press he has had to face
That said I have just received a call from my bank to say they have refunded the full amount I have paid for what I had ordered from DJM
Hoping others are as understanding and I hope Dave is looking after himself during this aweful period for him
Cheers

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Re: Dave Jones
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2019, 06:47:18 PM »
I can only add to all the others who are disappointed not to get the Class 17 and the King that I would have really liked to have. Dave dared to try and my sympathies totally lie with him. Thank you for trying, Dave.
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