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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #45 on: December 25, 2013, 11:42:09 AM »
Hi and Merry Christmas to all of you!

Here's another hint for you and it can be used to any other loco with similar drives:
If the loco starts to make sort of noise in curves you can try this:
Pull or in this case screw out the trucks (you say bogies) and remove the small "drive bones" from them. Now you can see the carrier of the bones on the drive shaft of the truck. Sometimes it has some edges but mostly the bone is rubbing at it while the engine goes through narrows and the truck followes the curve.
So I took a ball or cone shaeped reamer or cutter which has almost the same shape and diameter and chucked it into my elecrical tool like Dremel or such and very carefully widened the edges of the carrier entrance a tad, going together with some deppening of the angle.
This causes the bone not to rubb at the shafts edges and gives it more play especially in curves. Furhermore it has no effect to the drive itself, in this loco is the bone clipped into the carrier. In other engines you you have to check how far you can go if the bone sits loose in it.
But remember: Very carefully and be cautious not to remove to much!!!
The result might be a loco which can go through curves where they derailed before and if no derailing occurred but sort of sound vanishes indeed.
As I claimed, if you have other candidates with such behaviour please think on it. Many of the sixwheelers may have some problems in narrow curves or small layouts, even a few of the fourwheelers can have it!

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2013, 08:03:30 AM »
I've just finished converting my DelPrado DF4 into a running, pulling locomotive.  I used a Bachmann Spectrum SD45 as a base.

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2013, 09:02:13 AM »
I only realize that I cannot insert image after a post was published.

So here it is, my DF4D.


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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2013, 06:35:13 PM »
You have made a very good job of that conversion  :thumbsup:

cheers John.

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2013, 07:07:07 PM »

I'm not a Chinese railway modeller, but I motorised my del Prado DF4D using a Farish (Poole) class 47 chassis.  It fits easily if you take the side glazing out and replace it with Glue n Glaze.  I cut a slot in the skirt at one end and fitted a long rapido which swipes within the skirt.

I only made it for fun, but due to the general lack of overseas entries for the NGS model making competition, I am currently the proud holder of the Fleischmann Trophy for 2013! Its the most useful trophy as it is also a cut glass wine decanter.  Will be a shame to give it up  :'(

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2014, 12:56:04 PM »
Hello!

I've ordered some of those PEHO #004 coupler housings to check out if they really work as good as claimed. I'll be back soon with my conclusions.

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2014, 10:21:34 AM »
Hi!

These PEHO 004 are fine stuff. It sits on a pin with a plate to fix it under the cars body. If you do so you will have it in the correct height to other couplers, depending on Rapidos. Since the slot in the "snowplow" is to small you have to cut it down to fit the coupler.
The other way is to use some cranked coupler which go straight through to slot and then down in an angle. Hobbytrain used cranked couplers in their first version of the Taurus due to the height of the coupler mount.
If you can get by cranked couplers you may cut off the pin with plate and glue the housing directly under the locos body. This is the better and more good looking way to skin the cat.
Finally everything works great! Nore more derailing of cars in curves or uncoupling or leverage due to stiff couplers. The new housing can move in both directions left and right.

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2014, 11:55:51 PM »
Hi!

These PEHO 004 are fine stuff. It sits on a pin with a plate to fix it under the cars body. If you do so you will have it in the correct height to other couplers, depending on Rapidos. Since the slot in the "snowplow" is to small you have to cut it down to fit the coupler.
The other way is to use some cranked coupler which go straight through to slot and then down in an angle. Hobbytrain used cranked couplers in their first version of the Taurus due to the height of the coupler mount.
If you can get by cranked couplers you may cut off the pin with plate and glue the housing directly under the locos body. This is the better and more good looking way to skin the cat.
Finally everything works great! Nore more derailing of cars in curves or uncoupling or leverage due to stiff couplers. The new housing can move in both directions left and right.

Best regards
Mathi

Thanks for sharing mate :thumbsup:

Your advice has helped me and many others.
Cheers for all your hard work and efforts.
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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #53 on: May 17, 2014, 08:56:45 PM »
Hello friends,

I've here an update:
In this link can you buy matching cars for the DF4B

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/n-scale-models-trains-yz22-china/1864218329.html

The shipping costs to UK are the same, so the price seems to be pretty low.
I've got no informations about the quality of those passenger cars.

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2014, 12:13:58 PM »
So here we have another chinese seller of those cars:

http://www.buychinatao.com/index.php/taobao/view/id/19956862179#

Although the pricing and the shipping coste as well are exorbitant he provides some more pictures of the cars.

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2014, 10:41:03 PM »
I am hoping that very soon they start producing N Scale Chinese Steam engines.
There are some excellent prototypes out there, all of which are being phased out of regular Chinese service in real life.
If CMR could produce at least one of the famous Chinese steam classes, that would be just awesome!

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2015, 02:20:37 AM »
Has anybody thought of modelling the Chinese trains that now come to Europe?

First direct freight train China to Spain

Freight train from China to Germany
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Still planning a layout...

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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2015, 09:04:37 AM »
Has anybody thought of modelling the Chinese trains that now come to Europe?

First direct freight train China to Spain

Freight train from China to Germany




The goods on the train which arrived in Madrid for example had to be transferred to different wagons at three points during the trip because of incompatible track gauges in different countries.
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Re: Chinese Image N Gauge?
« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2015, 11:34:29 AM »
I am hoping that very soon they start producing N Scale Chinese Steam engines.
There are some excellent prototypes out there, all of which are being phased out of regular Chinese service in real life.
If CMR could produce at least one of the famous Chinese steam classes, that would be just awesome!

Maybe someone (Rapido)  could scan the one in the NRM?? (British built)

http://tinyurl.com/p5donl7
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« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2015, 11:51:06 AM »
Bachmann used to or (may still) produce HO Chinese steamers, the
prices were about 250 IIRC, wonder what an N version would cost?
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