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Author Topic: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.  (Read 1141 times)

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 05:15:41 PM »
Love it. You should be well pleased. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 05:34:24 PM »
Great modelling of an unusual and interesting prototype.

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2019, 06:04:06 PM »
That is so well executed - lovely model.

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Re: PART 2: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2019, 10:17:25 PM »

The original plan was to try to make a passable representation of a 40T LMS bogie brake without doing a major repaint. I'm pretty chuffed with the end result


And so you should be. A smashing bit of modelling.

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Re: PART 2: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2019, 10:27:31 PM »

The original plan was to try to make a passable representation of a 40T LMS bogie brake without doing a major repaint. I'm pretty chuffed with the end result


And so you should be. A smashing bit of modelling.

Thanks very much.

After I had a go at painting that 6 wheel CCT and did a poor job with the paint it kind of knocked my confidence a bit. This was less daunting in that most of it was just a case of cutting in the relevant places, joining together, and painting the roof. With the guidance of other forum members on keeping the base model/surface grease and finger print free the roof came out great and it's boosted my confidence in using rattle cans on small models.
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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2019, 12:31:19 AM »
Great modelling of an unusual and interesting prototype.

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Well, a while back on the forum there was a big, sometimes a little heated, discussion about all our wishlists and whether we should have a go at making stuff rather than just complaining that manufacturers don't make it. Both you and I were involved. So I decided I'd make a bit more of an effort and have a go. I've also got some NGS wagon kits on the go. So thanks for the encouragement and the comments. I'm not at your standard, but I've made a start.

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2019, 09:22:08 AM »
I reckon an article for the new editor of the NGS Journal awaits

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2019, 09:27:22 AM »
Agree. You could go for RM as well.  :beers:
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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2019, 08:51:35 AM »
Wow - just catching up on this thread. You've done an excellent job. I'm most impressed by the roof - no sign of joins, perfect alignment of sections and the rail strips certainly prompt me to think about conversions I've done where I let the occupants soak rather than tackle these.

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2019, 10:11:24 AM »
Wow - just catching up on this thread. You've done an excellent job. I'm most impressed by the roof - no sign of joins, perfect alignment of sections and the rail strips certainly prompt me to think about conversions I've done where I let the occupants soak rather than tackle these.

Mike

I can't take credit for the weather strip method, PLD off this forum suggested it. I was originally going to let the water run down the guards neck.

You're not doing so bad yourself, I've been looking at your tipper wagons.

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Re: PART 2: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2019, 02:09:54 PM »
For anyone who followed the other discussion I started about NGS bogies, I elected to have a crack at making my own bogie mounts. I used the bogie mount from the NGS Warwell kit as a ‘template’. The base is plasticard, the spigot is 4mm styrene tube. The small ‘spokes’ are thin rod glued to the base. These are necessary to stop the top of the bogie rubbing on the base, in effect they are a bearing surface. The brown ones were the first attempt, but didn’t lift the solebar clear of the bogie sides, so the grey rods were fitted which give just enough clearance between the solebar and the top of the bogie. The styrene rod was from a Slaters assortment pack.
Bogie retainers were made from plasticard and 2.5mm styrene rod.





The bogie mounts were glued to the chassis along with a further trimmed brake detail. I suspect the detail isn’t correct, but it’ll do for me, just gives a bit of something under the chassis. The under floor was then given a coat of black acrylic. As a point of interest, the Farish underfloor brake gear actually pivots freely in the ‘V’ hangars once the ends are disconnected.




I was part of that other discussion, and I'm really happy to seen what you decided on doing after it. That's brilliant. I will have to copy you next time I need to create a coach chassis from scratch.

Overall the brake van is superb. I'm all for getting the right 'feel' of accuracy rather than getting every rivet in its correct place.

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2019, 04:03:36 PM »
Wow - just catching up on this thread. You've done an excellent job.
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Ditto!! I've not seen this thread before, or this brake van, come to that. To me, that project would come into Category 5 (Fiendishly Difficult) and you've done a brilliant job. Well done!

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2019, 04:54:44 PM »
Wow - just catching up on this thread. You've done an excellent job. I'm most impressed by the roof - no sign of joins, perfect alignment of sections and the rail strips certainly prompt me to think about conversions I've done where I let the occupants soak rather than tackle these.

Mike

Hi - I've just enjoyed reading your article about this project in the NGS Journal.

What I hadn't really appreciated when I originally read this thread is that you preserved the original vans' paintwork. That's doubly impressive considering all the cutting you had to do!

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2019, 05:40:38 PM »
Wow - just catching up on this thread. You've done an excellent job. I'm most impressed by the roof - no sign of joins, perfect alignment of sections and the rail strips certainly prompt me to think about conversions I've done where I let the occupants soak rather than tackle these.

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Hi - I've just enjoyed reading your article about this project in the NGS Journal.

What I hadn't really appreciated when I originally read this thread is that you preserved the original vans' paintwork. That's doubly impressive considering all the cutting you had to do!

Mike

Hi Mike,

Yes, I was still getting over the lash up of my paintwork on my six wheel CCT van when I started so I wasn't keen on a full respray, hence it was only the roof that got a full repaint.

Thanks for the kind words on the article.

As an aside, you've inspired me to have a crack at designing my own wagon with Tinkercad, but I'm struggling to be honest. It's been much harder to design a 3D design than I thought.

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Re: 40 Ton LMS bogie brake van.
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2019, 11:04:56 PM »

As an aside, you've inspired me to have a crack at designing my own wagon with Tinkercad, but I'm struggling to be honest. It's been much harder to design a 3D design than I thought.

Mike.

That's great that you're getting into 3D. Although I'm less than a year into this, my earliest designs now make me cringe, but I knew I'd only get anywhere incrementally, so persevered, learning as I went.

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