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Author Topic: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU  (Read 1831 times)

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Offline Thorpe Parva

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2019, 09:20:43 AM »
What about a Gloucester RCW class 119 - the main difference was the front end https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-119/

The 119s lasted until 1995 and received Network SouthEast livery in the process.

Hi there,

The issue with that unit is that to the uninitiated (including me - I don't know much about 60s diesel units) it looks like the one Farish have already done.

The advantage of the 120 is that it has two windows in the front, so looks distinctively different.

Cheers

Ben A.

The Class 105 also only has two front windows plus Bachfar already have it in their OO range. Two and three car units & lots of livery variants...

https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-105/liveries

I guess it comes down to whether Bachfar feel that another DMU is economically viable in N Gauge.

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2019, 09:45:26 AM »
Well if it's distinctive looks you want, there's the 124....

However, that has a lot of the disadvantages that probably make it unlikely to gain sufficient demand.
  • 4 different vehicles in a 6 car unit / 3 different vehicles in a 5 car unit. (though you'd then only need one more tool (for the driving cars) to also do a 123)
  • Small number
  • Limited geography
  • relatively short (24 year) lifespan
  • only 2 liveries

Another reason against them is some folks, like me, don't have the space for more than a 2 or 3 car unit.

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2019, 06:12:38 PM »
My dream would be a Derby Lightweight !!!  :heart2:
But a class 104 or 110 would be also welcome.


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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2019, 08:55:11 PM »
For anybody who fancies kit building and trying to motorise them, I've just found this on Rue d'Etropal, whilst looking for something completely different;

http://www.rue-d-etropal.com/3D-printing/passenger-stock-br/3d_printed_sg-br-class-120.htm

Scrolling down and around also reveals a class 109.....

Apologies if the link has been done before.

martyn
« Last Edit: June 02, 2019, 08:57:09 PM by martyn, Reason: extra information »

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2019, 02:35:26 AM »
I would so love one of these! Enough to be prepared to give the 3D printing kit a go, but would need some strong tips as to what to use as a chassis. So if anyone has tried this, please let us know what you used. Naive question, would the Farish Class 101 or 108 chassis work?

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2019, 03:01:53 AM »
 They look great, don't they!

I don't see why the Farish chassis wouldn't fit. I have 4 Poole Farish green DMUs, but split gears, unfortunately!

Nevertheless I'd be interested to know if they'd fit.
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2019, 08:58:44 AM »
Farish's Classes 101 & 108 are 57' long whilst the class 120 is 63' long so you'd need to do some surgery. Dapol's 121 & 122 are the correct length.

The 109 could be do-able with the 101/108 as they're 57' units.

Steven B.

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2019, 09:10:56 AM »
Thanks, Steven  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2019, 09:16:41 AM »
The chassis from a Dapol 121/122 would probably be about right for the driving motor vehicles (1 powered and 1 dummy perhaps). The centre trailer is about the same length as a Mk1 coach although the underframe detail would probably need some work. Perhaps dummy chassis for all 3 vehicles would be best.
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2019, 09:54:22 AM »
I am (very, very) slowly doing a 120 (and a 123) following what is now, I guess, the old fashioned way of stripping Farish Mk1s and fitting ERG vinyls. Driving ends and under gubbins from BHE and the scrap box. Power is a GreenMax 21Metre unit (No 5712), which is the right length but has short axle spacing, which will be disguised by the side frames.

The Rue d'Etropal print has the great advantage over this old method of not having to graft on the cabs and having the roof ventilators in the right place. But there's a lot more painting required!!

Norman
« Last Edit: June 04, 2019, 09:57:59 AM by tunneroner61, Reason: reinstated a word wrongly deleted »

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2019, 09:48:10 PM »
I wish you hadnt posted a photo of one in Shrewsbury, now Id be very tempted.

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2019, 10:00:11 PM »
Hi , sorry no pics but the3 D print 120 id very good with just a little sanding on the inner ends  to remove print lines.

I drilled roof and fitted the Ultima roof vents to give more definition  than the printed bumps which looked a little malnourished.

The corridor connections have been replaced by BHE  DMU gangways as the model is undersized and not quite the right shape. Exhausts again from BHE .

Glazing  should be from the clear plastic liner in the jewel boxes that models come but that is a little way away.  Also plan to use brass door handles and etch grabs to be drilled and fitted after painting.

Power wise I plan to use powered and dummy 121 chassis as these give right wheels and under gubbins .The Trailer will mean a pile of bits to cut off- only needs battery ,watertank and heaters. Hopefully the door steps can be trimmed to match the 120s fewer doors .

This work will hopefully be done for Warley 2019 to go into the members area displays again. This will of course ensure an RTR soul to announce it. ( well thats my plan..)       

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2019, 10:20:56 PM »
Hi all,

Can you believe it!

Yes - this is another one for me and my late 70's to late 80's SCR layout aspirations!

1959 - 7 sets for the Scottish Region

I will be needing at least 2 sets with possibly a 3rd one  at a later stage.

Not sure what chassis yet - I suppose if a cheap Dapol chassis came along - that would be it.

If you check the various Greenmax 21m chassis there are a variety of bogie wheelbases available.

Thanks
Phil H
Thanks
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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2019, 04:19:18 PM »
Don't think I've added my voice, but the Class 120 is definitely on my wishlist; in green with speed whiskers if possible.

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Re: Suggestion: Class 120 DMU
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2019, 04:28:36 PM »
the one show n here :


https://railcar.co.uk/type/class-120/



would make an attractive model -

 

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