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« on: March 14, 2019, 08:53:29 PM »
Hi all , I,m thinking of fitting surface mount turnout motors to my layout ( 9 in all ) What kit will I need and how to wire them up for power.

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2019, 09:29:30 PM »
A search for surface mounted point motors on the Forum produces many hits


https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=44641.0

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2019, 10:05:00 PM »
I will get them from the Track Shack I need to know what else I will need and how to wire them up.

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 08:11:09 AM »
Wire obviously!  A suitable power supply (AC or DC of around 15V).   Presume they're traditional twin solenoid point motors, in which case on your control panel you'll need  two momentary push buttons per motor or one centre biased SPDT toggle switch (ON)-OFF-(ON) to operate the coils.  You could also consider the stud-and-probe method if you like that idea.

I would strongly recommend a Capacitor Discharge Unit  (CDU), which stores up a fixed amount of charge to give the coil a strong but brief burst of current when the button is pressed, and then only allows a trickle of power should the button be pressed too long (thus protecting against coil burn-out)

You should get some wiring instructions with the point motor.
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Re: seep motors
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 08:58:31 AM »
Hi, they are peco sl11 seep surface mount  motors.

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2019, 01:29:38 PM »
@first timer 
? Peco and Seep are two different brands   (Seep is now part of Gaugemaster)
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Re: seep motors
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2019, 01:51:02 PM »
Hi, they are peco sl11 seep surface mount  motors.

I think you mean Peco PL11 side mounted motors. These are designed for OO and I think they need some work before they will work with N Gauge points.

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2019, 01:51:53 PM »
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Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2019, 02:54:21 PM »
Or the SEEP PM20 surface mounted motor, which supposedly is suitable for N-gauge.

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2019, 06:15:10 PM »
1) suggest you read the links in my precious post re using OO motors

2) live or dead frog ( ie what track are you laying)? Setrack, code 80, code 55?.
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Re: seep motors
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2019, 07:12:07 PM »
Yes its the Seep pm20 that should fit n gauge, but what other bits will I need. I have got 11 to do.

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2019, 07:21:30 PM »
Sorry, but I have no idea. I have seen the PM20 mentioned in magazines, but I've only used the underboard PM1s.

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2019, 07:58:49 PM »
Yes its the Seep pm20 that should fit n gauge, but what other bits will I need. I have got 11 to do.


See my reply #3 and read the link below. It's a standard 3-wire twin solenoid design.

http://www.gaugemaster.com/news/NEW-SEEP-PM20-Surface-Mounted-Point-Motor

The challenge will be interfacing it neatly to your N gauge points in such a way that rolling stock doesn't foul on the motor, so if you tell us which pointwork you're using someone may have already worked that out, and of course it also depends whether you have laid your track on a raised bed?
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Re: seep motors
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2019, 08:23:45 PM »
No raised bed and my track is set track

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Re: seep motors
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2019, 05:18:34 PM »
i don't want to prolong this thread unduly but have you done a search in NGF ( use entry box on top R of screen( Seep PM20) - it provides a number of answers to your question.

HAve you rung Track Shack for advice??


maybe buy one and experiment??

some hints here

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=33813

https://www.dccconcepts.com/manual/hornby-magazine-point-motor-tests-2017/
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