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Author Topic: High Peak Junction, Sort Of  (Read 1625 times)

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Offline LukeB

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2019, 11:47:33 AM »
Looks good Mike - it looks like we've gone after much the same aim!

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 02:43:43 PM »
I made a little extra progress over the weekend. I've created the top of the canal walls. This was done by-

Laying down some scalescenes cobbles on the side nearest the front to represent the towpath.

IMG_20190208_091535 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

Then sticking some scalescenes dock wall tops along the edge. Once the glue dried these were folded over the edge of the canal and glued to the underside of the layout

IMG_20190208_093605 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

The next job is painting the panel of board I've got for the canal base, then creating the water.

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2019, 09:35:04 AM »
I didn't make much progress last night - I'd hoped to get my backscene sorted but when I opened the tube it turned out the small Gaugemaster ones are only 3 or so feet long, which isn't enough to do the job. I've ordered another, and used the opportunity to get some Scenecraft buildings cheap in Kernow's sale. This means I'll be putting a boiler house in the front left corner of the layout to represent the engine house that's just to the south east of the sidings in real life.

I painted the base of the canal. It's much lighter than this in real life, with some browns for good measure.

IMG_20190211_192429 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

Then I glued it in place, weighted at first with bottles but the central part of the side by the sidings was sagging a bit. I ended up leaning my bike against it overnight to fix it!

IMG_20190211_205706 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2019, 10:42:34 AM »
Strangely enough, @Bealman has just mentioned that particular Bill Bryson book in one of his posts

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2019, 10:51:58 AM »
It was the biggest, heaviest book that wasn't my wifes that was available!

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2019, 01:17:11 PM »
Yeah, mines a paperback. But would be better if they were full bottles  :D ;)
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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2019, 09:43:31 AM »
The bottles and books have been removed and the botom of the canal is in place. I'm going to have to reattach some wires that got knocked out of place but in the meantime I thought I'd get on with sorting the water. My wife was watching Call the Midwife when I got home last night and I'd already made dinner so put down the first layer last night.

Here's the canal bed in place-

IMG_20190212_183251 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

Enough PVA glue to cover the bed with a thin layer was poured on.

IMG_20190212_184020 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

The glue was then spread about using a sponge roller from a Dulux paint tester. This has given it a little bit of a texture that looks reasonably watery. I used a small paintbrush to get the glue up to the edges of the canal wall.

IMG_20190212_184821 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

IMG_20190212_184829 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

A little bit of green paint got on the roller and into the glue - I'm interested to see how this turns out but this may have to be a trial run!

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2019, 11:47:22 PM »
Looks very good Luke! I am intrigued what happens next to the PVA, do you go over it with varnish? More paint?

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2019, 08:34:36 AM »
Darrwest- the PVA is it, it is the water.

Sure enough, some green paint go stuck in the first coat of glue so I had to start again. It's done now- one less coat would have made it clearer but it shines well and looks much lighter in photos than it does in real life.

IMG_20190218_205311 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

IMG_20190218_205256 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

IMG_20190218_205248 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

IMG_20190218_191920 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

With the canal roughly finished I've moved on to making the retaining wall along the back edge. This is also a Scalescenes kit but rather than using card for the wall itself I've used Antinox correx sheet, which is less effected by wetness and is a bit more robust without adding any weight. I'll also be using this to glue the backscene to.

IMG_20190218_203003 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2019, 08:45:40 AM »
That looks pretty good to me,.
I klike the brown stone effect . Is it limestone?
Ithink that adding a similarly colured retaining wall will greatly enhance the scene.
Will you be adding any greenery (rushes etc) to the canal side....and a swan or two?
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2019, 08:50:57 AM »
I like the barge.... scratchbuilt? If not, what is it's source, please?  :thumbsup:
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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2019, 09:03:07 AM »
You know, I hadn't thought about adding any wildlife to the canal but given I see the same two swans every morning on the canal I think I'll investigate that.

The brown stone is Scalescenes' "random ashlar" option for their models. I'm using it here to represent millstone grit, which is the typical building stone in the Peak District.

I'm not sure what to do about greenery in the canal itself. I can't find any historic photos clearly showing the canal older than the 1950s, when the canal was hardly being used. These show a covering of algae and reeds.



These two that I've found show no vegetation in the canal itself, just along the top of the walls.





And nowadays it also doesn't have any vegetation in it on this stretch which is used by boats. Further along, where the boats can't go, there are a lot of reeds.



Bealman - I like the canal boat too! So much I wanted to buy another but sadly the guy that I bought it from on ebay has run out and only has OO ones left. I think I'm going to get one of Ancorton's models instead.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canal-boat-narrow-boat-model-OO-scale/132926773126?hash=item1ef30d9786:m:mlxp-4lsrBvi0oKIG3kqWZA:rk:1:pf:0

http://www.ancortonmodels.com/n3-nb2/4585890932


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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2019, 09:32:29 AM »
I see your dilemma.
I love canals on layouts but I took the easy option of a canal through lush grass and woodland. I think to model an industrial canal offers its own challenges.
As in the bottom photograph only the slightest bit of green weeds at the base of the buildings and where they dip into the canal.
Burnt green scatter stuck on with PVA then matt varnished should work but of course, itíll be tricky.
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2019, 09:07:02 PM »
Clever with the PVA, very clever! Looks great!

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Re: High Peak Junction, Sort Of
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2019, 09:24:02 AM »
Last night I finished the retaining walls (which didn't take long, the bulk of the work was done) and set about putting them in place. Before I glued them down I had to put the backscene up so that the walls and tunnels were in the right place. With the backscene screwed down and the retaining walls glued in I set about creating the landscape using the foam Kernow had packed out  my order with- very handy!

IMG_20190225_205812_1 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

IMG_20190225_205820 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

IMG_20190225_205827 by lukegoestoaustralia, on Flickr

 

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