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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2019, 03:58:35 PM »
Thank you for the tutorial

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2019, 06:01:59 PM »
These wooden stirrers we have now are no help at all  :D


Daft as it sounds, I have used the wooden stirrers for placing ballast, but only near the manual switch on the Kato points.  The wooden stirrers only allow you to have a very small amount on the end. (Think how long it would take to ballast the whole layout using a wooden stirrer!!).

Just had a thought, if you glued three of the stirrers together to make a 'U' shape, you could have a long channel and allow the ballast to slowly trickle out - okay, I'll go home now  :))
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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2019, 07:16:17 AM »

It really is nothing to fear, and a relaxing way to pass an hour or so.

Like watching paint dry  ;)
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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2019, 05:24:20 AM »
Macdonalds used to do small long handled plastic stirring spoons which were ideal for the job!  These wooden stirrers we have now are no help at all  :D

They stopped using the little spoons because it became apparent, and widely communicated, that they were perfect vehicles for cocaine use! Who would have thought it?

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2019, 05:48:40 AM »
I would start a petition for reinstatement. What you using instead?

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2019, 06:23:57 AM »
I would start a petition for reinstatement. What you using instead?

Indeed, we need to know. Ballast, even fine n-gauge ballast is too coarse to snort  :D

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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2019, 06:27:56 AM »
Agreed. Chris. What did you use at coniston please? Always looking for more realistic ballast

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2019, 06:45:37 AM »
Agreed. Chris. What did you use at coniston please? Always looking for more realistic ballast

Gaugemaster GM-GM115 Granite Ballast - for around and between the sleepers, that is, not up my nose  :D

It looked a bit too pale and "clean" to start with, but darkened down nicely once the 50:50 PVA soaked in and set.

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2019, 06:53:50 AM »
Thanks chris. Maybe worth looking out for. I brought a pack cheap at a show, great for the yard but very fine for the mainline and was searching for another product. Looks like old spoon and stirrers may come in handy

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« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2019, 07:07:38 AM »
Thanks chris. Maybe worth looking out for. I brought a pack cheap at a show, great for the yard but very fine for the mainline and was searching for another product. Looks like old spoon and stirrers may come in handy

I used one of those drag along hoppers for applying the ballast to the plain track - what there was of that that also wasn't between the platforms because the hopper was out of gauge - and a teaspoon for the rest.
Then it was a combination of brushes and fingers to get it spread and jammed down between the sleepers, followed by a spray of water to dampen it and a 50:50 PVA solution (with a drop of washing-up liquid) dripped on.

Close to the point tiebars I bottled it with that method and applied neat PVA with a fine brush and scattered dry ballast on.

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« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2019, 07:13:06 AM »
Ok thanks 3or the reminder, erm tutnrial chris. Have a good weekend

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2019, 08:16:41 AM »
Hi

I thought I would add my question to this topic along with the other helpful information so far rather then starting a new topic.

Going to use cork as underlay to give quiter running. Now using peco code 80 would you:

- use a 2mm thick roll of cork under the track bed on the baseboard?

- cover the whole baseboard in Cork tiles and lay the track on this?

Didn't know which would give the best profile for the ballast....

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2019, 08:25:44 AM »
I used a track underlay which gave me a nice ballast profile.

Here's an early work in progress shot:



HTH

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2019, 09:52:12 AM »
I used a track underlay which gave me a nice ballast profile.

Here's an early work in progress shot:



HTH

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Looks good that.
Is that code 80?
What underlay did you use?

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Re: ballasting tips
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2019, 09:55:37 AM »
An interesting question! Here are my thoughts from the last thirty years:

* My track is Code 80 laid on 2 or 3mm cork roadbed.

* I personally like a ballast shoulder, but apparently it's not so high in the UK compared to American railroads.

* I certainly wouldn't cover the whole baseboard in cork, it defeats the purpose of having track raised!

* Regarding sound deadening qualities, raw track on cork, yes, it works. However, as soon as it is ballasted, it becomes a solid connection to the baseboard, and any sound deadening qualities are negated.

* Unless you are running sound equipped locos, I don't see a problem. The sound of electric trains running has never been something that's bothered me.

* Two thirds of the way into the construction of my layout, I started laying track straight onto the plywood to cut costs. I have regretted that ever since, to the point of ripping it up and putting cork down.

Just some thoughts.  :beers:
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