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Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« on: January 10, 2019, 10:53:36 AM »
Just to let anyone interested know Colin has stock now of the BR black e/crest and LMS black G2s.

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2019, 02:01:27 PM »
do you happen to know the price ?
i used to be indecisive...but now i'm not so sure.

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2019, 03:01:27 PM »
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£85 + £3 postage (don't ask how I know ;) :zippedmouth:)

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2019, 03:43:00 PM »
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£85 + £3 postage (don't ask how I know ;) :zippedmouth:)
No doubt the N-Gauge Fairies whispered it into your ear while you were sleeping?
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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 03:47:41 PM »
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£85 + £3 postage (don't ask how I know ;) :zippedmouth:)
No doubt the N-Gauge Fairies whispered it into your ear while you were sleeping?

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 05:34:48 PM »
i assume a G2 is the same as a super D--which i saw in action in the early 60's.

does anyone know if the gearing on UM locos is all the same ?  only my 3f goes like a greased rocket.
i used to be indecisive...but now i'm not so sure.

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 09:25:42 PM »
i assume a G2 is the same as a super D--which i saw in action in the early 60's.

does anyone know if the gearing on UM locos is all the same ?  only my 3f goes like a greased rocket.

Super D is the nickname for the G2. Not sure about the 2nd question but I have the UM City of Truro and the slow running on that is very, very good on DC

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2019, 09:29:45 PM »
My J26s and D20 run nice and slow. They're reasonably well run in by now.

They're not as controllable as my Farish locomotives, which start slowly too - the UM motors seem to need an initial boost of power (my Gaugemaster switches range from 0-100) to about 50, but can quickly be eased back to about 20.

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2019, 10:20:28 PM »
i assume a G2 is the same as a super D--which i saw in action in the early 60's.

does anyone know if the gearing on UM locos is all the same ?  only my 3f goes like a greased rocket.

Super D is the nickname for the G2. Not sure about the 2nd question but I have the UM City of Truro and the slow running on that is very, very good on DC

Union Mills changed the motor used in 2015, the Dean Goods was the first model with it.  However, I understand that almost all locomotives made since then use the new motor.  The previous motor was not as controllable at low speeds.

I have two 'B12/3's.  The oldest had the earlier motor and the newest has the new motor.

I think that the new motor is very good indeed.

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PS Congratulations, Mick; I know that you have wanted a 'G2' for a while.  It's a really nice engine!
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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 10:39:05 AM »

PS Congratulations, Mick; I know that you have wanted a 'G2' for a while.  It's a really nice engine!

It's going to have been on walkabout to find it's way into Oxfordshire, John. I can only imagine some harassed shed foreman at Bletchley pressed it into service for a freight across the Varsity Line when he had nothing else spare ;)

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 11:37:28 AM »
does anyone know if the gearing on UM locos is all the same ?  only my 3f goes like a greased rocket.

The gearing is the same. But recently Colin changed the motor he uses to a smaller one that revs slower, and it gives much better slow speed and creep performance than the originals. I presume he's using this motor in all new production.

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 11:39:48 AM »
P.s. I should have said also that the original motor is identical dimensions to the Mashima 1015, so changing them to 1015s give massive improvement in slow speed control of the original models. This is because the Mashima is a 5 pole unit rather than a highly magnetised 3 pole unit.
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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 12:48:58 PM »
@bigmac
Usual knockout service from the IoM - ordered yesterday morning and arrived this morning.
Sorry about the poor focus. I got the rest - tripod, removed the perspex and found some wagons close to hand :-[
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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 01:42:36 PM »
Many thanks for the film, Mick.  In my mind's ear I could hear the unmistakeable noise of a 'G2' with that peculiar weary sigh replacing the third beat.  What a lovely locomotive; I wish you the joy of it.

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Re: Union Mills G2 0-8-0 tender loco
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2019, 10:56:42 PM »
i ordered a g2 and a 2p thursday lunchtime--arrived this morning ( saturday)  i o Man to i o Wight.

so quiet and smooth running--unlike my 3f bought 2nd hand a few weeks ago..which has a noticable growling rumble.  problem discovered--its thrown a traction tyre.  but still pulls like a train ( as you would expect ) so --is it straightforward to fit new tyres ?
i used to be indecisive...but now i'm not so sure.

 

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