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Re: Coniston
« Reply #420 on: September 29, 2019, 09:08:08 AM »
Looks fantastic Chris, on the subjects of houses, if we take the 2nd from last picture,

The house above the cattle wagon looks too new
The house to the right of that I'd just tile over the roof windows, velux windows didn't appear till the 70s and previous to that would be a Georgian wired pane of glass under the slates, normally to light up the long dark landings on terraced houses.
The block of 3 to the right of that the left one looks spot on with the little dormer and wooden bar windows, the other 2 look too new with bigger dormers and pvc windows.

Other than that it looks absolutely fantastic  :claphappy:
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Re: Coniston
« Reply #421 on: September 29, 2019, 09:11:26 AM »
the scenics give extra depth and fit round the station. im just standing back picturing myself from where you took those shots !!!!!

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #422 on: September 29, 2019, 09:48:29 AM »
That works beautifully and gives a real feeling of depth to the layout.
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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Re: Coniston
« Reply #423 on: September 29, 2019, 10:09:08 AM »
Thanks, everyone.

Looks fantastic Chris, on the subjects of houses, if we take the 2nd from last picture,
The house above the cattle wagon looks too new
The house to the right of that I'd just tile over the roof windows, velux windows didn't appear till the 70s and previous to that would be a Georgian wired pane of glass under the slates, normally to light up the long dark landings on terraced houses.
The block of 3 to the right of that the left one looks spot on with the little dormer and wooden bar windows, the other 2 look too new with bigger dormers and pvc windows.

Cheers, that's pretty much my own thoughts too. The third from the left (the dark one, actually a block of four) was definitely there as early as 1895 because it appears on an OS map with that revision year. however, it didn't have the dormer windows on the three leftmost as late as 1905-08 - I have a photo dating from then which shows it without.

Tobe honest, I'm tempted to zap all except the pre-1895 one, especially the two to the left. Less sure about the rightmost one though. It "could" be  from the 1920s but updated, it certainly has more of a Lakeland style.

I've no concerns about the rows of cottages at the southern end - they also appear on the 1895 map
I'll keep looking for any photos which might clarify things - in between working on Torver and Woodland, of course.

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #424 on: September 29, 2019, 10:13:07 AM »
I wouldn't worry about the roof lights.  Such windows were about much earlier, although they may not have been Velux.  For example see M Hulot's Holiday.
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Re: Coniston
« Reply #425 on: September 29, 2019, 10:29:39 AM »
I wouldn't worry about the roof lights.  Such windows were about much earlier, although they may not have been Velux.  For example see M Hulot's Holiday.

Indeed, he pokes himself out of a cast iron Victorian skylight, we have refurbed a good few over the years BUT from a roof line photo would look remarkably different to the ones on the house in the photo.

Roofs are a very good indicator of dates, the best "mistakes" are that period dramas rub out the road markings with granite chippings and remove bus shelters and road signs but tv aerials and roof windows cant be easily hidden and for certain  people (mention no names  :-[) I look straight to the roof lines to find the mistakes.

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« Reply #426 on: September 29, 2019, 10:43:38 AM »
Getting there, I've now located a photo from 1950 - the pre-1895 block of four houses didn't have the dormer windows then, and neither of the two houses to the left of it were there. Just the one to the right to track down now before I fire up photoshop again.

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #427 on: September 29, 2019, 12:23:31 PM »
I think it works very well.  Extremely impressive.

Seconded!

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« Reply #428 on: September 29, 2019, 05:32:17 PM »
I think it works very well.  Extremely impressive.
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  Got to agree, just looks so right
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Re: Coniston
« Reply #429 on: October 13, 2019, 01:10:44 PM »
A looks pretty impressive so far - it is just like being there on the hill watching the trains go by!

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #430 on: December 06, 2019, 05:27:18 PM »
As I've covered on the Coniston Railway thread, Coniston has now moved about eight feet downwards and taken up residence in my lounge along with Torver so that I can work on link boards to join them together end to end and work on the practicalities (or otherwise) of working the layouts from the back.

I had, as I suspected I would, some work to do since I hadn't touched the rear connectors since the initial testing after I'd fitted them. Half a dozen points were firing the wrong way compared to the control panel so those have now been rectified and it all works the same from the back as it does from the front with the exception of the uncouplers in the fiddle yard. I can live with that, though, since the yard is right in front of the operator so the hand of God can be used - if the fiddle yard is even being used at all, if I'm running Torver as well, trains will come from and go back to  Torver and the only use for Coniston's fiddle yard will be the odd rake of wagons going up to the Copper House near the mines.

If I'd had any doubts whatsoever that I'd need some arrangement of mirrors to be able to see what's going on from the back, this is the decider. These shots are all that I can see from the back - and that's without a backscene.







The worst of the lot is the Southern end, where I can't see anything of the station throat at all. In the middle, I cannot see the coal siding nor the cattle dock - if I lean across as far as I can from one specific angle I can see the very top of a loco in the coal siding, but no wagons.

Mirrors are definitely called for  ;)

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #431 on: December 06, 2019, 05:31:03 PM »
Looking good chris
 Would certainly suggest mirrors cheaper than mini cameras mounted on boards screwed at the back.  Chris

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« Reply #432 on: December 06, 2019, 07:12:06 PM »
Looking good chris
 Would certainly suggest mirrors cheaper than mini cameras mounted on boards screwed at the back.  Chris

Agreed, more reliable and don't need yet more kit to be able to see what they can see.

I've got some A4 acrylic mirrors on order and today a small roll of mylar arrived so I'll be experimenting to see which gives the best results.

I won't need mirrors all the way along, just (ideally) so that I can clearly see all the points and uncoupler locations. I'm sure that by moving around I'll be able to see everything else albeit less clearly but where clarity's not so essential.

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #433 on: December 06, 2019, 07:22:48 PM »
I was taught by newportnobby mick in his thread Re : Kimbolted - the layout room and used cheap shaving mirrors mounted to 47mm by 47mm triangular timber screwed  up to 20 inches high works with the blindspots in the fiddleyard and 7 outlay. Would his idea work using that method?  Chris

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« Reply #434 on: December 06, 2019, 07:53:33 PM »
I was taught by newportnobby mick in his thread Re : Kimbolted - the layout room and used cheap shaving mirrors mounted to 47mm by 47mm triangular timber screwed  up to 20 inches high works with the blindspots in the fiddleyard and 7 outlay. Would his idea work using that method?  Chris

Mick pointed me to that in my Coniston Railway thread. However, I don't think it'll do the trick for me because I don't just need to eliminate blind spots.

As well as seeing that stock is clear of a point before I change the road, I also need to be able to see accurately when a loco or wagon is correctly positioned over an uncoupler for running around or shunting.

One long or several suitably positioned and angled short flat mirrors should do the trick, I hope.


 

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