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Further ventures into Military modelling
« on: November 25, 2018, 08:32:08 PM »
So I've started a new project, designed to try and model this for Northallerton:



Now being a complete  :dunce: when it comes to military modelling, I just thought those Landrovers were just, well Landrovers, the military defender types as produced by Oxford. Like this
https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/land-rover-defender-lwb-hard-top-british-army-ndef003

But apparently not.
I was duly informed by military modeller friend that the landies on the war flats are in fact a Landrover Wolf. There are some modifications I have attempted.
Ive tried to replicate the locker door behind the main door, reporduced a roof hatch, added a snorkel re positioned the spare tyre and added radio equipment (on the other sideof this photo) Obviously Ive had to fill in the massive hole left by the wheel when it was prised off the bonnet.
The trailer is a Butlers 3d print. Really good value at a couple of quid.
Obviously Ive painted this one in camouflage.



Any Military modellers care to comment?
cheers
Krky
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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 08:54:09 PM »
Not a military modeller - but this looks a great project, all I can say is good luck with it, keep us informed!

Cheers Jon  :)
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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2018, 10:05:36 PM »
Thanks Jon
I have a further 14 Oxford defenders to convert!

And of course Im waiting for the NGS warflat http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33967.45
Northallerton is in the August 2018 edition of Raiway Modeller

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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2018, 08:03:58 AM »
You have at least two types of Landrover there, Some are FFR, Fitted for radio, those have small boxes on each wing each having an ariel on top. Some having a third aerial in the middle of the roof.
 You also have three sorts of air intake the snorkle or the cover over the wing taking air from below, or the side mounted air filter.
Many of the landrovers have the clips and brackets on the bonnet for carrying things like shovels (which are probably inside the landrovers to stop them going missing enroute.
Many of the bonnets were also capable of carrying a bonnet mounted wheel.

Wolf Landrovers are identified by having a reinforced Chassis, a side mounted wheel, and a one piece fibreglass roof.

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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2018, 05:34:29 PM »
Hi @The Q 
Many thanks for your input. I was aware of the radios and I have fitted that one in the picture with some crude representation of an aerial on the side not visible. Its not very good so I'm not showing that side. I may 'fit' a different one for radio with a wing mounted box.
I dont think its possible to model the wheel mounts on the bonnet, they're just too small.
I was aware that the snorkel can be side intake but all the pictures I have found of MOD wolfs show the snorkel coming off the top of the wing. The 'Wolfs' that appear to have side fitted snorkels seem to be converted 'fenders and not actually an MOD wolf. I think. As I say Im not a military expert by any stretch of the imagination.
As for shovels to be mounted on the bonnet, well I have some order which mine will have, but I think you are correct in that they have been put inside the vehicles for rail transit.
Thanks for your interest though.
Cheers
Kirky
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and in real life at the EPSOM & EWELL MODEL RAILWAY CLUB ANNUAL EXHIBITION
on Saturday 27th April 2019
and Sunday 28th April 2019 at the
North East Surrey College of Technology (NESCOT)
Reigate Road, Ewell, Surrey KT17 3DS.



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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2018, 06:44:48 PM »
Love everything about this. Keep us up to date please.
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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2018, 09:31:11 PM »
Love everything about this. Keep us up to date please.

Thanks Richard, that's very kind.
Im wondering myself what the state of play is with the NGS warflat? @Ben A

Cheers
Kirky
Northallerton is in the August 2018 edition of Raiway Modeller

and in real life at the EPSOM & EWELL MODEL RAILWAY CLUB ANNUAL EXHIBITION
on Saturday 27th April 2019
and Sunday 28th April 2019 at the
North East Surrey College of Technology (NESCOT)
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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2018, 09:35:27 PM »
Love everything about this. Keep us up to date please.

Thanks Richard, that's very kind.
Im wondering myself what the state of play is with the NGS warflat? @Ben A

Cheers
Kirky

Hi Kirky,

NGS Warwell - Both versions show as in stock on the NGS shop.
One early and 3 late period available

Email to shop to confirm actual stock?

Thanks
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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2018, 10:15:14 PM »
Love everything about this. Keep us up to date please.

Thanks Richard, that's very kind.
Im wondering myself what the state of play is with the NGS warflat? @Ben A

Cheers
Kirky

Hi Kirky,

NGS Warwell - Both versions show as in stock on the NGS shop.
One early and 3 late period available

Email to shop to confirm actual stock?

Thanks
Phil H

Hi Phil
They are the Warwell wagons. The wagon I am talking about is the Warflat, a KFA. It was announced some time ago and there is a thread here

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33967.0

and I believe it is kit 55 from the NGS. As you will see on the website, kit 55 doesn't yet appear.
Thanks for the interest though.

Kirky

Northallerton is in the August 2018 edition of Raiway Modeller

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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2018, 10:24:37 PM »
Hi Kirky,

You are correct - the Warflat isn't available yet.

I'm waiting for some myself.

I asked directly about these and was told it would be some time.

These are from the ex Parkwood range that NGS took on.

If I remember correctly, there are no bogies for them and this is why there is a delay.

So - keep watching the shop website as things change almost daily.

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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2018, 11:23:45 PM »

Hello all,

The NGS existing warflat is the ex-Parkwood fishbelly type dating from WW2. The NGS Warwell is the same provenance and vintage.

The NGS kit 55 is for the 1976 built Warflats with the plain solebar that remain in use.  We have the bogies, the problem is that the tooling was commissioned from Parkside Dundas but when the Parkside part of the business was sold it was not quite completed.  Since then we have been attempting to find a toolmaker to take it on; we now have but there is a lot of work correcting the tools and reconfiguring them to run on his more powerful moulding machines.

I hope it won't be too much longer - else it many get gazzumped by an RTR model!

Cheers

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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2018, 11:47:54 PM »




Hello all,

The NGS existing warflat is the ex-Parkwood fishbelly type dating from WW2. The NGS Warwell is the same provenance and vintage.

The NGS kit 55 is for the 1976 built Warflats with the plain solebar that remain in use.  We have the bogies, the problem is that the tooling was commissioned from Parkside Dundas but when the Parkside part of the business was sold it was not quite completed.  Since then we have been attempting to find a toolmaker to take it on; we now have but there is a lot of work correcting the tools and reconfiguring them to run on his more powerful moulding machines.

I hope it won't be too much longer - else it many get gazzumped by an RTR model!

Cheers

Ben A.

Thanks for the update Ben.
I have found a 3d version on Shapeways, which is a possibility but certainly not preferable. It would be a last resort should the NGS not come to light and then of course bogies and transfers have to be sourced. The NGS kit will make life so much more simple.
Cheers
Kirky
Northallerton is in the August 2018 edition of Raiway Modeller

and in real life at the EPSOM & EWELL MODEL RAILWAY CLUB ANNUAL EXHIBITION
on Saturday 27th April 2019
and Sunday 28th April 2019 at the
North East Surrey College of Technology (NESCOT)
Reigate Road, Ewell, Surrey KT17 3DS.



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Cleveland Model Railway club website: www.clevelandmrc.club

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Re: Further ventures into Military modelling
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 08:43:21 PM »
A little bit of a further update on my wolf.
Ive added a pick and a shovel

Here#'s a cruel close up



These are lovely tiny little brass etches from our very own @EtchedPixels. They're great Alan, thanks.

Cheers
Kirky
Northallerton is in the August 2018 edition of Raiway Modeller

and in real life at the EPSOM & EWELL MODEL RAILWAY CLUB ANNUAL EXHIBITION
on Saturday 27th April 2019
and Sunday 28th April 2019 at the
North East Surrey College of Technology (NESCOT)
Reigate Road, Ewell, Surrey KT17 3DS.



Layout: Northallerton: http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=1671.msg16930#msg16930

www.northallertonngauge.co.uk

Cleveland Model Railway club website: www.clevelandmrc.club

 

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