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Author Topic: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout  (Read 22125 times)

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Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2018, 08:55:52 AM »
Unfortunately this can be a problem with flat-top board layouts, you have no opportunity to undulate the scenery and take it below track level and so everything looks "plonked on top" as Martin says.

I think the straight edge along the front is the most obvious unnatural feature at first glance, so try making that less uniform.  Add a few more lumps and bumps generally, so it's not so symmetrical?  Might turn it into a toad rather than a frog?  :D

« Last Edit: November 07, 2018, 08:57:12 AM by ntpntpntp »
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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #107 on: November 07, 2018, 08:59:47 AM »
Unfortunately this can be a problem with flat-top board layouts, you have no opportunity to undulate the scenery and take it below track level and so everything looks "plonked on top" as Martin says.

I think the straight edge along the front is the most obvious unnatural feature at first glance, so try making that less uniform.  Add a few more lumps and bumps generally, so it's not so symmetrical?  Might turn it into a toad rather than a frog?  :D

Ha ha I think I prefer frogs to toads actually! Yes I see your point, table-top layouts have their limitations in this regard.

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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #109 on: November 07, 2018, 09:18:02 AM »
On my layout, unfortunately yes!

Outside frames don't like the clearance on the curved platforms.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #110 on: November 07, 2018, 09:41:21 AM »
It will look completely different once more elements of scenery are incorporated into the layout, but I do agree with the suggestions to do more 'tapering'.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #111 on: November 07, 2018, 09:46:56 AM »
On my layout, unfortunately yes!

Outside frames don't like the clearance on the curved platforms.  :thumbsup:

Don't worry Matt. That is unlikely to happen on your layout if you take notice of what Nick said. :thumbsup:

"Make sure you allow adequate clearance for locos and stock to pass by.  If you eventually get any steam locos they often need a bit more clearance - one of the worst culprits is the old Minitrix 2-10-0 which is very wide at the cylinders! As you can see, I've allowed general clearance on the platforms above"
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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #112 on: November 07, 2018, 10:17:27 AM »
True. I have a couple of Minitrix 9Fs, which are also useful as a clearance gauge.

Interestingly, they clear the platform in the photo, which suggests the Farish gronk must be wider!  :hmmm:
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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #113 on: November 07, 2018, 10:22:39 AM »
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Bit of an unexpected problem here. I've made good progrees with my lift-off hill.

However when I look at it, I can't help thinking it looks like a sort of big frog's head, with the tunnels being frog's eyes, and the hill edge a large frog-mouth! Do I just have an over-active imagination? It is actually bugging me quite a bit.

I can't actually think of any solutions, apart from removing the hill altogether (which is a shame as I like it breaking up the loop of rail), or maybe extending the hill around the wouth western corner more and removing quite a bit of of the southern siding (also a pity).








I think you have made a great start Matt.
As the other members have suggested you need to make it look less symmetrical. I like the idea of extending the high ground between the siding/mainline/road but have concerns about the practicality of lifting it off the layout should the need arise. You would be adding some delicate protruding spurs which will be easily damaged. Instead of having gradually rising ground why not do the opposite and incorporate a steep rockface into that area. You could bring the high ground further forward and even create a flat area on top of the rockface where you could place a suitable building.
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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #114 on: November 07, 2018, 12:26:04 PM »
On my layout, unfortunately yes!

Outside frames don't like the clearance on the curved platforms.  :thumbsup:

Oh dear, poor Gronks!   :'(

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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #115 on: November 07, 2018, 12:40:45 PM »
Ok, aggregating suggestions together to move in a non-symetrical direcion, I especially like the cliff face addition (plus this will be robust when lifting the hill off).

Here's a mock up. Actually it gives an opportunity to experiment with some rock effects, which is a plus.



Although I just noticed it now looks like a bird!  :-[
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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #116 on: November 07, 2018, 05:32:33 PM »
Voila - one cliff!

It's de-froggified it considerably!



« Last Edit: November 07, 2018, 05:33:55 PM by Globi »

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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #117 on: November 07, 2018, 05:47:55 PM »
Looking like a good solution is taking shape Matt. :thumbsup:

Topographically, just try to ensure that the edges of the tunnel hill are not all on the same contour line, i.e. the baseboard level, and look natural. Straight edges and planes are rare in nature.

Once you have draped it all in plaster cloth, painted it and added grasses,  bushes, trees, and a few other detail elements, it will be fine. The trick is to make the removable section flow into its immediate surroundings, so beyond its edges you might like to slope out the hill, hiding the joint as much as is reasonable with aforementioned bushes, trees, etc.
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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #118 on: November 07, 2018, 06:13:29 PM »
Yes, looking good Matt.
As Daffy says, don’t make things too uniform.
It will all look so much better when finished.
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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Re: Living Room 1:160 DB Layout
« Reply #119 on: November 07, 2018, 09:00:47 PM »
Looking like a good solution is taking shape Matt. :thumbsup:


Thanks Daffy, can't wait to get the plaster on and then the greenery etc!

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