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Offline bob lawrence

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My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« on: September 24, 2018, 04:42:33 PM »
Just thought I would share a couple of ‘bashed’ Kestrel Kits, but first I would like to give a mention to Metcalfe Kits. I think are they are extremely well made and designed but for my purpose are slightly oversize, which in this instance is an advantage.
I needed a Manor House and there were none in the Kestrel range which suited so I turned to Metcalfe and chose the Coaching Inn, by using the yard outbuildings as stables.







Now onto Kestrel. I like the size of these kits, some have said they think they are on the small side, but I think the range is a bit limited, compared to Metcalfe for example, hence the need for a bit of ‘bashing’.
Its amazing how size varies in n scale buildings.
 This first one is the Semi Detached house with an added double garage.

I can’t remember which other kit I used for the garage. It does need a bit more work, i.e. doors, gutters, drain pipes etc. One other thing I would like to point out is the ridge tiles. I made them from the smallest styrene tube and sanded short lengths down by half until they were U shape, I have also drilled the chimney pots open.

The next one is a double garage to go with the Manor House.
This is the Barn. The opening has been copied to the other side, some spare pieces added for doors, windows put in the roof, a handrail for the open steps, an arched window with stained glass (York Model Rail) and the door at the end opened




For this one I sanded the stone surfaces smooth so it could be painted white to resemble rendering. I have done this on a number of other buildings as will be shown later. I prefer to do this rather than use styrene sheets and cut the openings because it takes too long and if there are a number of windows there will be a good chance some will be out of line, plus all the windows etc come with the kit, also some roofs can be quite complex. As has been mentioned by others the gutters and drain pipes which come with Kestrel Kits are very much oversize, I prefer to use Ratio.

I have a number of other Kestrel buildings just about finished and will add these later.

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2018, 04:47:49 PM »
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Great work there Bob. :thumbsup:
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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2018, 12:20:30 AM »
Love the manor house garage, those steps clearly lead up to a purpose built upstairs model railway room!

I am with you on the relative size of Metcalfe kits. It's not just Kestrel kits they seem larger than, but also Scalescenes, ready to plant models from Farish and Hornby and others as well. I wonder if anyone has taken a 9mm ruler to a Metcalfe model to see if it is oversize? It by no means detracts from Metcalfe's quality (they are also fun to build), but it does seem strange that they seem 'larger' in all dimensions.

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2018, 09:28:46 AM »
This is from Metcalfe

N SCALE
For ease of design we actually work to the ratio of 2mm to 1 Foot which is 1:152. This is a scale that is becoming more popular every year and is also generally considered compatible with the 1:144 scale for miniature wargaming (12mm height of a person).

So if they are using their scale ruler correctly their N-Guage  buildings should come up slightly small, given that UK N-Gauge is 1:148 and they are working to 1:152 but given that their houses are just too big they obviously got something wrong.

Oddly their railway and industrial buildings don't appear to have this issue and look quite appropriate to N-Gauge

For scale appropriate housing have a look at the offering from these people

https://www.inthegreenwoodlaser.co.uk/collections

Paul

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2018, 11:38:41 AM »
Yeah, it's a bit weird. Kestrel kits are small, Metcalfe kits kits too big!

Looks like scratchbuilding, I guess!  ;)
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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2018, 08:21:31 AM »
Can I ask what you use to sand the kits? Sandpaper grade?
I have done a couple of Metcalfe Kits and find them too 'pristine' ... need to work on my weathering techniques!
Cheers  :beers:

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2018, 11:13:18 AM »
Hi, it’s sheets of 180 grit. I cut a piece 30 mm wide and stick it onto a piece of wood with double sided sticky tape. Hope this helps.

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2019, 01:13:42 PM »
Here are a few more Kestrel kits I have been working on recently.
This first one is a cut down version of the semi detached to produce a detached house.






I had to sand the outside to remove the detail because there were two windows which finished being cut in half so needed filling in with styrene, therefore it had to be rendered. It’s a couple of windows missing but I think the overall look is ok.

This one is the semi detached house with the bay windows removed and new windows and textured sheet replacing the gap.



I fitted the bay windows to the bungalow








I changed the roof of the shop to get this effect



I added extra floors to the town house to make a block of flats



This shows them in place






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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2019, 01:21:53 PM »
the roof above the shop looks pleasant, and has changed its appearance much better. do like the semi detached too,

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2019, 07:40:12 PM »
Some innovative ideas there giving some excellent results.  :thumbsup:
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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2019, 09:52:13 PM »
Very interesting.

Many thanks.

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2019, 10:32:21 PM »
some good ideas there, will definitely "borrow" a couple of them.

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2019, 10:34:12 PM »
Thanks, this is what it’s all about, passing on ideas.

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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2019, 11:33:53 PM »
Good work, there, Bob. Another thumbs up from Australia!  :thumbsup:
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Re: My take on Kestrel Kit Bashing
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2019, 08:14:29 AM »
It is such a shame that in this day and age and given the quality of plastic kits that can be attained as in the quality of military models produced by the likes of Tamiya, Dragon, Trumpeter plus many many other kit makers the us poor model railway modellers have to put up with such poor quality and out dated kits that the likes of Kestrel produce.

If only railway modelling (especially N-Gauge) was more popular so one of the better kit makers would take them on, but sadly until then we have to struggle with kits that look like they come from the 60's when plastic moulding was still in its infancy. 00 fared slightly better as Airfix had a go but their now well worn moulds are in the hands of Dapol who have no interest in improving or expanding their range.

It's a shame that with the availability of high resolution resin 3D printing that some enterprising company has not thought about introducing a full range of model rail related buildings in most off the common scales.

One day maybe?

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