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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #90 on: October 07, 2018, 10:47:47 AM »
An obvious big no there! Capitals mean shouting!  ;)
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #91 on: October 07, 2018, 11:17:57 AM »
Malc,
Donít try to defend them .
They chose to cheat and got caught.
Hi Chris, no indeed, that was not my intention and I agree with you. They got their come-uppence !

Just thought I'd have a bit of fun with "it could be", if or no it 'should be' argued is another matter !!!  and anyway he/they were too full of themselves to suggest that as an excuse.

The good guys won :-)

All I need to do now is to find out how to download it off My5 and replay slo-mo to take it all in without all that feverish subliminal shot changing, does the director not know how to hold a shot ! ?



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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #92 on: October 07, 2018, 11:33:00 AM »
An obvious big no there! Capitals mean shouting!  ;)

got that, hence the use of capitals to EMPHASISE  :smiley-laughing:
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #93 on: October 07, 2018, 11:36:37 AM »
I think Pjlons83 has hit the nail on the head, it would have been a lot better if a bit more actual modelling was shown. How were the baseboards built? How was the track laid? If I compare it with James Mayís Toy Stories they managed to be informative and showed people interacting.

Iíll still watch the next few episodes just to see if they improve or not.
But thats not what these programmes do. You don't see much of techniques in either Bake off or Sewing Bee.

but why does it have to be bake off or sewing bee ?
why not a decent, informative, program about model railways ?
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #94 on: October 07, 2018, 11:52:52 AM »
I think Pjlons83 has hit the nail on the head, it would have been a lot better if a bit more actual modelling was shown. How were the baseboards built? How was the track laid? If I compare it with James Mayís Toy Stories they managed to be informative and showed people interacting.

Iíll still watch the next few episodes just to see if they improve or not.
But thats not what these programmes do. You don't see much of techniques in either Bake off or Sewing Bee.

but why does it have to be bake off or sewing bee ?
why not a decent, informative, program about model railways ?

Because TV (especially commercial TV) is for entertainment, not information. When you're going for the maximum number of viewers to keep for the ad breaks (or other show sponsors) you have to keep it at the lowest common denominator for the audience you're going to grab. I suspect for most of these shows, 90%+ of the actual viewers will never actually take part in the hobby at a level where they'd actually benefit from serious tips and information on the show, so it's scripted as something fun to watch instead.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #95 on: October 07, 2018, 12:28:18 PM »
off topic, but while rubbishing this program, thoroughly enjoyed the one on walking the Plymouth - Exeter line via Oakhampton that followed it.

much info, a guy who was interested, and .......

I'd never realised that rice pudding was made in the can  :dunce:
always imagined vats of rice pud being used to fill the cans, silly boy  :-[
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #96 on: October 07, 2018, 01:29:40 PM »
Unfortunately Zwilink is undoubtedly right about the formulation of the programme, it is designed to entertain not inform. With that in mind Iím think the Missenden modellers might have been set up and edited to come across as the Ďbaddiesí to make for a more entertaining programme.

There were probably shots of the other teams saying they were sure they were going to win that were never used.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #97 on: October 07, 2018, 01:37:02 PM »
perhaps the best advice for anyone considering getting involved with this type of program is

don't

you'll get screwed to produce the required edits for 'entertainment'

rumours of some new programs to come out in the autumn..

strictly come shunting

trains off

shunting bee

 >:D
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #98 on: October 07, 2018, 02:52:52 PM »
Well, I did manage to watch (half) of it last night - add me to the list of those who thought it was an opportunity wasted. The main reason I switched off halfway through was the egotist from Missenden, who does not represent the hobby in my view. The team who had never met before seemed to bond really well and worked well together, but they didn't seem to get quite as much of the limelight. Such a disappointment when it could have been so much better.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #99 on: October 07, 2018, 02:57:46 PM »
Unfortunately Zwilink is undoubtedly right about the formulation of the programme, it is designed to entertain not inform. With that in mind Iím think the Missenden modellers might have been set up and edited to come across as the Ďbaddiesí to make for a more entertaining programme.

There were probably shots of the other teams saying they were sure they were going to win that were never used.

I dunno, I've been to model railway clubs that had a very similar attitude of "we're professional layout builders" and the main focus of the club is to build layouts to earn funds from shows rather than actually enjoy modelling and helping other members learn.

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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #100 on: October 07, 2018, 03:00:34 PM »
Unfortunately Zwilink is undoubtedly right about the formulation of the programme, it is designed to entertain not inform. With that in mind Iím think the Missenden modellers might have been set up and edited to come across as the Ďbaddiesí to make for a more entertaining programme.

There were probably shots of the other teams saying they were sure they were going to win that were never used.

I dunno, I've been to model railway clubs that had a very similar attitude of "we're professional layout builders" and the main focus of the club is to build layouts to earn funds from shows rather than actually enjoy modelling and helping other members learn.

I wonder if that is why so many of us have sheds ?

also, SWMBO permitting, you can model when you want, rather than to a timetable.
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #101 on: October 07, 2018, 03:24:14 PM »
I must have had my "glass half full" hat on when I watched this.

One big positive was the cohesiveness of the teams. Most of us may be lone modellers, I don't know, but seeing people working towards a common goal against the clock and putting together a working model railway with scenic effects in 3 working days sends a worthwhile message. The animations were intended to be fun and are the sorts of things which attract younger children to press buttons on permanent exhibition layouts.

A few folk across social media have ridiculed the scratchbuild challenge, but I really liked the touch of "Blue Peter" it brought to the programme. So creativity of the model railway pastime was another positive.

I have to admit to being amazed that some people thought that the programme was going to be "how to" guide. Or that they were going to learn something about detailed modelling from the presentation.

People uninitiated in modelling railways hopefully have a more positive reaction to what they viewed and if they kept watching through the advertisement breaks then the broadcaster met their goal.

Just as a side note, the reactions on one Facebook Group seem to include a lot of people who feared the programme was ammunition for their "mates" to ridicule them. It did not come over to me like that, and fortunately I don't have mates like that. But if I did, I think I would challenge them to build a detailed one foot square diorama in say two weeks. They choose whatever they want as their subject - Marilyn Monroe over a subway grating,
their favourite celebrity being handcuffed and escorted into a police station, or
a room full of keyboard warriors.

« Last Edit: October 07, 2018, 03:26:17 PM by woodbury22uk, Reason: spellink »
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #102 on: October 07, 2018, 03:39:43 PM »
I was
[1] amazed at how well the 'strangers on a model train' team worked together
and
[2] really pleased to see their hard work payed off with a win.
[3] felt really sorry for the Porthcawl team who also worked so hard, but just got [IMHO] pipped to the post.

two teams really 5 star,
one team should be ashamed

production team should be .....
as no doubt our posts are monitored by GCHQ, I'll leave it to you to fill in the dots.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2018, 03:42:18 PM by class37025 »
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #103 on: October 07, 2018, 03:58:18 PM »
Not sure about the themes chosen, maybe sometbing around ' here is a small childs room, build them a train set' could have worked better.
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Re: The Great Model Railway Challenge
« Reply #104 on: October 07, 2018, 04:57:46 PM »
rumours of some new programs to come out in the autumn..

strictly come shunting


A purely entertainment programme for the whole family which will be a popularity contest until the last 6 left shunting. Expect masses of people screeching like primates and gurning at the camera as they think it's funny to do so

 

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