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Author Topic: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon  (Read 4747 times)

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2019, 07:57:05 AM »
It’s interesting they’ve got those big protectors on the wheels, but nothing on that comparatively exposed rear panel. I wonder if it’s to do with risk of damage during loading/unloading. Definitely going to need to find a way to load them affordably!

Thanks for the update Ben.

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2019, 10:31:45 AM »
Looks similar to the protection you'd see on an open car transporter, usually wheels and a film over the bonnet / roof / boot

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2019, 11:30:05 AM »
Didn't ATM do Arbels back in the day... :hmmm:

They would be great!

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2019, 02:45:30 PM »
It’s interesting they’ve got those big protectors on the wheels, but nothing on that comparatively exposed rear panel. I wonder if it’s to do with risk of damage during loading/unloading. Definitely going to need to find a way to load them affordably!

Thanks for the update Ben.

Most/all imported European cars here in the US are liberally covered in protective vinyl, I would imagine that the Jags in the picture are destined for export.

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2019, 02:53:41 PM »
No doubt about it - hence being on the IPAs in the first place, presumably headed to Southampton.

Just interested in the level of protection - as Vonzack says there's vinyl on the bonnet/boot (sorry hood/trunk ;) ), and those big bulky protectors on the wheels, but not on the rest of the bodywork. I'm wondering why the wheels demand such protection, is it simply to guard against being 'kerbed' whilst being loaded/unloaded?

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2019, 03:04:29 PM »
Even the little shark fin antennae at the back of the roof had a bit of padding on it.
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2019, 03:20:51 PM »
By the time they get to my neck of the woods, they will have been transferred from rail to ship to rail to road, also those wheels will be alloys, so the wheel protectors are a necessity.

BTW no need to translate, I'm bilingual, I can speak English and Mercan.  :D

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2019, 03:30:42 PM »
I presume someone literally just drives them all on and off individually? Do they do it every x wagons (the end of each set of 4?), or do they drive the whole length of the train?

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2019, 03:41:08 PM »
I'd suggest they drive through the whole length of the train - that's how they load Minis onto Arbels at Cowley.
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2019, 04:30:17 PM »
Interesting, must be bloody labour intensive to do that!

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2019, 04:48:24 PM »
They don't hang about either. Watching it is like watching an outtake from the Italian Job (the reboot). :goggleeyes:
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2019, 05:00:18 PM »
The wheel protectors become ever more clear... just floor it and bounce of the sides as necessary  :goggleeyes:

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2019, 09:56:26 PM »
Didn't ATM do Arbels back in the day... :hmmm:

They would be great!

ATM and CJM both made Arbels, no doubt Ben can correct me, but I remember that  CJM owns the tooling.

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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2019, 10:11:18 PM »
Etched Pixels have an Arbel on Shapeways.
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Re: Revolution Trains - IPA Wagon
« Reply #59 on: March 07, 2019, 11:07:44 PM »

Hello all,

If anyone is interested here is a potted history...

The Arbels were originally developed by Bernard Taylor for CJM as one of several  models - others include the Class 92 and Euroshuttle locos and wagon kits - for the Eurotunnel display layout at Folkestone.

In 2003 Chris Marchant, Bernard and I decided to see if the model could be repurposed into a CJM-quality RTR wagon and we produced 100 sets badged ATM.

Since then, CJM has continued to offer the Arbel from time to time and it remains an attractive - and imposing - model.

In terms of the IPA car carriers, we have now approved the CADs (the sticking point was the creases at the corners of the canvas side screens on the covered variants) and are expecting to open the order book fairly soon, with samples expected by summer.

Cheers

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